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Schumer Says Senate will Vote to Ditch Filibuster to Advance ‘Voting Rights’ Bill – Making it Easier for Democrats to Steal Elections

Nuking the filibuster is quite possibly the stupidest proposal in a very long list of stupid proposals ever ....proposed

Only reason you would propose such a thing is if you knew OR had high confidence that your political party would never be in the minority again. and my God ..... if Dems didnt feel the filibuster was needed, why did they use it 327 times in 2020?

Sinema was spot on, Biden does NOT have a mandate to do the things that he is trying to do. The "mandate" is, calm the F* down, work together, and come up with "solutions" that both sides hate. Legislation that both Repubs and Dems equally hate is a win for the American people.

Just amazing and perplexing to me ...
“Only reason you would propose such a thing is if you knew OR had high confidence that your political party would never be in the minority again. and my God ..... if Dems didnt feel the filibuster was needed, why did they use it 327 times in 2020?”

The Dems know if they can convince Manchin and Sinema to do away with the filibuster and pass this Voting Rights bill (errr Right to cheat bill) that they will NEVER be in the minority again and never lose another Presidential election. It’s just that simple!! Despite the lies and propaganda from the people in the know, and their propaganda machine known as the MSM. Thank God for Manchin and Sinema for (at least for the moment) stopping this Venezuelan style takeover of this country from the nuts on the left. Amazing that from all the Dems in Congress there’s only two with the courage and the conscience to stand up to the far left nuts that now run their party. But all you hear are the Dems are the ones fighting for Democracy in this country. When in fact it’s just the opposite.
 
... Amazing that from all the Dems in Congress there’s only two with the courage and the conscience to stand up to the far left nuts that now run their party.
I have to believe there are more, but Manchin and Sinema are the two from the most purple States who can break with the machine and still keep (if not bolster) the support of their constituents.

I know for a fact that my Senators, Cardin and Van Hollen arent two of them .... both of these men are about as spineless and feckless as they come. Really hoping Larry Hogan challenges one of them for their seat. I think he could pull it off .... a two term Republican Governor of Maryland? That is almost unheard of. His approval rating in a state where Dems outnumber Repubs nearly 2 to 1 is 74%. Carries a 80% approval rating of black voters .... unreal!!!!!

Unfortunately, I think he is gearing up for a Presidential campaign, where I dont think he would get to far in the primaries. He is too moderate for the south and bible belt.

*Cliff notes* Larry rocks ... he .... or a President like him is what we need right now.
 
“Only reason you would propose such a thing is if you knew OR had high confidence that your political party would never be in the minority again. and my God ..... if Dems didnt feel the filibuster was needed, why did they use it 327 times in 2020?”

The Dems know if they can convince Manchin and Sinema to do away with the filibuster and pass this Voting Rights bill (errr Right to cheat bill) that they will NEVER be in the minority again and never lose another Presidential election. It’s just that simple!! Despite the lies and propaganda from the people in the know, and their propaganda machine known as the MSM. Thank God for Manchin and Sinema for (at least for the moment) stopping this Venezuelan style takeover of this country from the nuts on the left. Amazing that from all the Dems in Congress there’s only two with the courage and the conscience to stand up to the far left nuts that now run their party. But all you hear are the Dems are the ones fighting for Democracy in this country. When in fact it’s just the opposite.

That whole paragraph is absolutely idiotic.
 
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Ya see ...(the bold)this is where you and I fundamentally disagree. I dont believe that what is all in the Voting Rights Act is "common sense".

I dont agree with or dont understand the opposition too:
- requiring a ID to vote.
- disagree with unrequested mail in ballots. If you want to vote by mail, ok, request a ballot to be sent to your address
- ballot harvesting. Ballot harvesting should only be applicable and available to individuals who are in a health care facility, in at-home medical care, or military
- same day voter registration. A individual has 2 to 4 years to register to vote. If a individual cant find the time to register within that time frame .... I dont know if they are responsible enough to vote. I said what I said. If your 18th birthday falls on election day, I dont see any reason why you cant register to vote before your birthday so that you can enact your right on election day.
- ballot boxes .... I just dont see the need

^these equate to "non-starters" for most Republicans, soooooooooo find a resolution? Work across the aisle? Find a solution that both sides hate (ideally that both sides love) and draft THAT legislation. The answer here is not "Well, Im not getting my way, so Im going to change the rules, take my basketball and go home". Its the job of our Reps and Sens to disagree, argue, debate, and come to a resolution.

I mean, I would be for a standardized ballot across all States, with the ability to electronically vote. Seems like that would be simple enough to secure, regulate, and monitor. One vote per social security number .... seems like a no brainer. Why we have paper ballots, for the majority of Americans, in 2022 ... seems really silly too me.

and ya .... McConnell jammed through SCOTUS and Fed appointees but .... keep in mind the only reason he was able to do that was because Harry Reid went nuclear and made a carve out. McConnell warned him NOT to do what he did.

Getting rid of the filibuster is just ... bad .... what if in the future ... a political party that has simple majorities wants to abolish the 13th Amendment??? what then? Without the filibuster they could do it and it would be legal. Do we really ...REALLY ... want to go down that path?

Here is what I think we both can agree on ..... this utter tribalism that we are currently experiencing needs to stop. Both Repubs and a Dems are guilty of it .... the way to get rid of it is NOT to inject more partisan tribalism
I'm with you on finding common ground and putting tribalism aside, but to do that we have to agree on what the facts are first and it doesn't help when one side continually make statements that aren't true. Examples from your post above:

- Unrequested ballots are NOT part of the FVA
- It DOES require an ID to vote. We can quibble over whether utility bills and bank statements should qualify as IDs, but nonetheless, there is a requirement there.
- Harry Reid did NOT create a carve out for Supreme Court justices - he only orchestrated that change for judicial nominees and presidential appointments, excluding the Supreme Court. This was done because Republicans tried to filibuster so many of Obama's appointments. When Republicans re-gained power, McConnell expanded the rule to include Supreme Court justices.

For the record, I like you as a poster because half of your posts piss me off and the other half I agree with, so even though you're somewhat partisan, you're reasonable, smart and fair most of the time. You really should post more here.

So I'm all onboard with cutting back on the rancor and finding places where we agree, but let's stop pretending that all these new Republican policies aren't intended to make it harder to vote. You may not see the need for ballot boxes, for example, but that's because you don't need it yourself. You're ignoring how critical that is for some who may live many miles from a drop-off box and may lack transportation, can't get off work to stand in line etc...Why would you want to make it harder for those people to vote? Remember, there was NO widespread fraud so you're attempting to control a thing that wasn't a problem to begin with. Republicans can't win the popular vote anymore so their only hope is to make it harder for "others" to vote, particularly in swing states.

On the other hand, we continually hear about real fraud attempts from the right that your side ignores, i.e.
- forged election certificates in seven states
- "just call the election corrupt and I'll take it from there"
- "I just want to find 11,780 votes"
- fraudits
- Red states appointing partisan boards that have the authority to diminish the authority of secretaries of state over their own elections
- Running Big Lie candidates for every office in an attempt to subvert election machinery and exploit various constitutional loopholes.
- Pressuring and criminalizing – the work of election officials.

And let's not forget that 147 Republicans voted to overturn the election results and 71% of Republicans polled STILL believe the lie that the election was stolen!

This is why the FVA is so important. It isn't after a theoretical boogeyman - it's attempting to address the blatant rot and corruption we are witnessing before our very own eyes

So yes, let's find common ground but how about we start by addressing the REAL problems and not the IMAGINARY ones.
 
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I have to believe there are more, but Manchin and Sinema are the two from the most purple States who can break with the machine and still keep (if not bolster) the support of their constituents.

I know for a fact that my Senators, Cardin and Van Hollen arent two of them .... both of these men are about as spineless and feckless as they come. Really hoping Larry Hogan challenges one of them for their seat. I think he could pull it off .... a two term Republican Governor of Maryland? That is almost unheard of. His approval rating in a state where Dems outnumber Repubs nearly 2 to 1 is 74%. Carries a 80% approval rating of black voters .... unreal!!!!!

Unfortunately, I think he is gearing up for a Presidential campaign, where I dont think he would get to far in the primaries. He is too moderate for the south and bible belt.

*Cliff notes* Larry rocks ... he .... or a President like him is what we need right now.
Larry could absolutely win in a general because he'd get a ton of crossover votes, but you're right about the primary - he's not angry and obnoxious enough for the average Republican voter 😅
 
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we have to agree on what the facts are first and it doesn't help when one side continually make statements that aren't true.

- It DOES require an ID to vote. We can quibble over whether utility bills and bank statements should qualify as IDs, but nonetheless, there is a requirement there.

I don’t have time to address all of the election stuff, but let’s just use this as an example of inaccuracy and irony.

The GA voter bill allows for voter ID, utility bill or even simply stating your SSN and birthdate to confirm eligibility. Literally any eligible voter can do this at zero cost or effort.

HR1 DOES NOT require voter ID or even the utility bill or bank statement you mention. It allows people to simply offer a written statement. No other proof.

So yes, we have to agree on facts. The fact is GA’s law is completely reasonable and accommodating, not Jim Crow 2.0. One side continually makes statements that aren’t true about this bill

The fact is your post was misleading about voter ID and no 2nd party proof of any kind is required under the federal HR1 legislation.

So yes, let’s use facts and logic. Not misleading propaganda about alienating voters with “Jim Crow” laws.

Honestly this stuff is just so damn stupid and frustrating. Both sides are guilty of being blowhards and spewing propaganda, but the Jim Crow 2.0 BS is a pretty clear example of how egregious the rhetoric is from the left.

I mean, we even had a poster on this board that believed the GA bill prevented black people from drinking water in line. He doubled and tripled down on it even when presented with the specific text from the bill. All because of the horribly misleading rhetoric from the left, including the president of the USA.

Of course, it’s completely impossible to have a 3 digit IQ and believe the nonsense above, but half the country is of below average intelligence and easily swayed by this BS.
 
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I don’t have time to address all of the election stuff, but let’s just use this as an example of inaccuracy and irony.

The GA voter bill allows for voter ID, utility bill or even simply stating your SSN and birthdate to confirm eligibility. Literally any eligible voter can do this at zero cost or effort.

HR1 DOES NOT require voter ID or even the utility bill or bank statement you mention. It allows people to simply offer a written statement. No other proof.

So yes, we have to agree on facts. The fact is GA’s law is completely reasonable and accommodating, not Jim Crow 2.0. One side continually makes statements that aren’t true about this bill

The fact is your post was misleading about voter ID and no 2nd party proof of any kind is required under the federal HR1 legislation.

So yes, let’s use facts and logic. Not misleading propaganda about alienating voters with “Jim Crow” laws.

Honestly this stuff is just so damn stupid and frustrating. Both sides are guilty of being blowhards and spewing propaganda, but the Jim Crow 2.0 BS is a pretty clear example of how egregious the rhetoric is from the left.

I mean, we even had a poster on this board that believed the GA bill prevented black people from drinking water in line. He doubled and tripled down on it even when presented with the specific text from the bill. All because of the horribly misleading rhetoric from the left, including the president of the USA.

Of course, it’s completely impossible to have a 3 digit IQ and believe the nonsense above, but half the country is of below average intelligence and easily swayed by this BS.
Of course you don't have time to address the most damning reasons why this voting act is needed and instead focus on the one aspect of my post that we both agree on. I don't have a problem with a picture ID requirement and like I said, we can quibble over whether or not bank statements and utility bills should qualify...but they do. "Quibble" meaning "debate".

Also, I didn't say anything about Ga's law, Jim Crow or HR1, which is kaput by the way. The FTVA is a slimmed down version of that bill and here's what it says about photo ID.

"The FTVA adopts a different approach. It requires any state that has a voter ID requirement to accept the many forms of ID accepted in West Virginia, including utility bills and bank statements. Voters without such identification would have to vote provisionally, subject to their identity being verified through a process similar to the process in West Virginia."

Interesting that your main concern is the less than .05 % of people that vote without a picture ID. I understand that you think the disabled, the disadvantaged and rural octogenarians are the biggest threat to our democracy, but I guess we'll just have to disagree on that.

Your post was misleading scotch and misrepresented what I said.

Again, we need to agree on the facts...
 
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Of course you don't have time to address the most damning reasons why this voting act is needed and instead focus on the one aspect of my post that we both agree on. I don't have a problem with a picture ID requirement and like I said, we can quibble over whether or not bank statements and utility bills should qualify...but they do. "Quibble" meaning "debate".

Also, I didn't say anything about Ga's law, Jim Crow or HR1, which is kaput by the way. The FTVA is a slimmed down version of that bill and here's what it says about photo ID.

"The FTVA adopts a different approach. It requires any state that has a voter ID requirement to accept the many forms of ID accepted in West Virginia, including utility bills and bank statements. Voters without such identification would have to vote provisionally, subject to their identity being verified through a process similar to the process in West Virginia."

Interesting that your main concern is the less than .05 % of people that vote without a picture ID. I understand that you think the disabled, the disadvantaged and rural octogenarians are the biggest threat to our democracy, but I guess we'll just have to disagree on that.

Your post was misleading scotch and misrepresented what I said.

Again, we need to agree on the facts...

Sorry, celebrating a big raise tonight and I’m pretty deep in some right bank Bordeaux. The left is positioning this policy against laws like the GA bill. The GA bill expands early voting and mail in voting from pre-pandemic levels. It will literally be much easier to vote in GA in 2022 than in any non-pandemic election in history.

Your rural octogenarians and disabled can simply request a mail in ballot and get one.

This stuff is ridiculous. Get your shit together and figure out how to mail a ballot, show up on Election Day, show up at ample early voting opportunities, drive by a drop box, etc. It’s so unbelievably stupid.
 
Sorry, celebrating a big raise tonight and I’m pretty deep in some right bank Bordeaux. The left is positioning this policy against laws like the GA bill. The GA bill expands early voting and mail in voting from pre-pandemic levels. It will literally be much easier to vote in GA in 2022 than in any non-pandemic election in history.

Your rural octogenarians and disabled can simply request a mail in ballot and get one.

This stuff is ridiculous. Get your shit together and figure out how to mail a ballot, show up on Election Day, show up at ample early voting opportunities, drive by a drop box, etc. It’s so unbelievably stupid.
Sounds like you're having fun. I'm celebrating Snowmageddon...aka flurries 😂
 
Desperate dem losers now trying anything possible to slam HR1 into law by hiding it in a nasa bill.


ACT NOW: US Rep. Kat Cammack Sounds Alarm – Dems Breaking All the Rules to End Free and Fair Elections Forevermore – Hiding HR1 in a NASA Bill – Contact Senators Now – List Attached​

By Joe Hoft
Published January 16, 2022 at 2:47pm

Rep-Kat-Cammack.jpg

US Congresswoman Rep. Kat Cammack sounds the alarm. The Democrats are breaking all the rules to end elections in America forevermore.

Rep. Cammack did not vote for the Democrats’ scam move to steal elections. No Republican did. Officially, this bill was created by the Democrats to concur with Senate amendments and further amend the bill to merge the John Lewis Voting Rights Act and the Freedom to Vote Act into previously passed legislation extending NASA’s authority to lease its facilities.
Kat-Cammack-NASA.jpg

Rep. Cammack tells it all on the Democrats’ efforts in this BS voting rights bill.
TRENDING: ACT NOW: US Rep. Kat Cammack Sounds Alarm - Dems Breaking All the Rules to End Free and Fair Elections Forevermore - Hiding HR1 in a NASA Bill - Contact Senators Now - List Attached

We warned about the Democrats’ actions a week ago.
We’ve been warning on the Democrats’ attempt to codify their corrupt elections in perpetuity since January 2021. Here is more of what is in it.

Contact the US Senators now and demand they stop this bill now.

Here are their numbers:
U.S. Senate: Senators T:\13 STE AND TELE.TXT (senate.gov)
Here are their emails:
Senators Email Addresses (contactsenators.com)
 
Desperate dem losers now trying anything possible to slam HR1 into law by hiding it in a nasa bill.


ACT NOW: US Rep. Kat Cammack Sounds Alarm – Dems Breaking All the Rules to End Free and Fair Elections Forevermore – Hiding HR1 in a NASA Bill – Contact Senators Now – List Attached​

By Joe Hoft
Published January 16, 2022 at 2:47pm

Rep-Kat-Cammack.jpg

US Congresswoman Rep. Kat Cammack sounds the alarm. The Democrats are breaking all the rules to end elections in America forevermore.

Rep. Cammack did not vote for the Democrats’ scam move to steal elections. No Republican did. Officially, this bill was created by the Democrats to concur with Senate amendments and further amend the bill to merge the John Lewis Voting Rights Act and the Freedom to Vote Act into previously passed legislation extending NASA’s authority to lease its facilities.
Kat-Cammack-NASA.jpg

Rep. Cammack tells it all on the Democrats’ efforts in this BS voting rights bill.
TRENDING: ACT NOW: US Rep. Kat Cammack Sounds Alarm - Dems Breaking All the Rules to End Free and Fair Elections Forevermore - Hiding HR1 in a NASA Bill - Contact Senators Now - List Attached

We warned about the Democrats’ actions a week ago.
We’ve been warning on the Democrats’ attempt to codify their corrupt elections in perpetuity since January 2021. Here is more of what is in it.

Contact the US Senators now and demand they stop this bill now.

Here are their numbers:
U.S. Senate: Senators T:\13 STE AND TELE.TXT (senate.gov)
Here are their emails:
Senators Email Addresses (contactsenators.com)
Dude there is no HR1, you're being lied to again. It was slimmed down to bring Manchin on board(which you should like) and is now called the Freedom to Vote Act.

But what in particular bothers you about the bill? Use your words, not Joe Hoft's.
 
Dude there is no HR1, you're being lied to again. It was slimmed down to bring Manchin on board(which you should like) and is now called the Freedom to Vote Act.

But what in particular bothers you about the bill? Use your words, not Joe Hoft's.
I do not need to use Joe Hoft's words. He happens to also agree with a lot of what I agree with.

HR1 is a naked power grab by the dirty dems.
- Federalization of elections.
- Substantial weakening of voter id laws.
- Universal mail in voting.
- The end of any absentee ballot verifications.
- Enablement of easy rampant cheating.

Thats about it.
 
I do not need to use Joe Hoft's words. He happens to also agree with a lot of what I agree with.

HR1 is a naked power grab by the dirty dems.
- Federalization of elections.
- Substantial weakening of voter id laws.
- Universal mail in voting.
- The end of any absentee ballot verifications.
- Enablement of easy rampant cheating.

Thats about it.
Again, there is no HR1. Also, the rest of your post is BS.
 

If They Can’t Cheat, They Can’t Win: Communist Brennan Center Horrified After 19 States Pass 34 Election Security Laws in 2021​

By Jim Hoft
Published January 17, 2022 at 9:42am
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(left to right) Democrats drag our suitcases of ballots from under tables after GOP observers are removed from room in Georgia, Democrats drive in late night ballot drop of 61 ballot boxes in Detroit, Democrats cover the windows at the TCF Center so Republicans cannot see inside ballot counting room.
If they can’t cheat, they can’t win.
Democrats are VERY WORRIED that Republican state legislatures will make it more difficult for them to cheat in future elections.

Joe Biden complained today that his party must be able to count the votes which makes no sense. Democrats across the country blocked Republican observers from the counting rooms while they “fixed” the ballots for Joe Biden. But Democrats and their media continue to gaslight the American public anyway.
The communist Brennan Center published a report last week on the current election integrity bills that were passed by Republican legislatures in 2021. More legislation is planned for this year to make sure only legitimate votes count. This scares the hell out of Democrats.
TRENDING: WATCH: Boston Cops Threaten, Harrass THE WRONG WOMAN Over Vax Card: 'We Don't Enforce Mandates, We Protect Rights'
H.O.T Wisconsin posted the Brennan Center article and rewrote the article factually by replacing their their “restrictive voting access” with more accurate and honest phrasing.
Between January 1 and December 7, at least 19* states passed 34 laws to improve election integrity. More than 440 bills with provisions that fortify voting access were introduced in 49 states in the 2021 legislative sessions. These numbers are extraordinary: state legislatures enacted far more voting security laws in 2021 than in any year since the Brennan Center began tracking voting legislation in 2011 (https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/ensure-every-american-can-vote/voting-reform/state-voting-laws).
Fortunately, the momentum around this legislation continues. So far, at least 13 election integrity bills have been pre-filed for the 2022 legislative session in four** states. In addition, in 18*** states, at least 152 voting security bills that did not reach resolution in 2021 will carry over into 2022. These early indicators — coupled with the ongoing mobilization around the Big Truth — suggest that efforts to secure the integrity of elections will continue to be a serious threat to Dems in 2022.
 
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