Pickens County residents, please vote him out of office. He is an anti second amendment obstructionist.
Senator Larry Martin?
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I don't like coming on here and talking politics but I really want to know something. I have friends who will give money to the NRA over and over but won't give a dime to children's medical center. He says it is for them to lobby to not take people's guns away. I told him I don't see that happening. I really believe that all people want is to tighten up on certain aspects like having permits and righting up on the mass sells at jockey lots with no background checks. My question is why would anyone be against those types of laws? I'm not a gun guy never even owned one but don't have any problems with people owning them at all. I just don't understand why my friend wouldn't be for some changes in the laws for gun rights. Under no circumstance do I think my next door Nabor should own an automatic weapons.
Op, is this about open carry? I'm a gun guy. Love em. Open carry is terrible. I'm absolutely not worried about anyone coming to take my guns. What worked in Europe certainly would work here. For no reason other than the fact that there are about 13 guns per person in the US. It just isn't possible.
1) because those laws wont do any good, and multiple studies have shown that ....even the one the president order the CDC to conduct as part of his executive orders related to guns
2) guns sold without background checks has really been blown out of proportion. Very few guns are sold that way, and none of the crime we hear about is traced backed to those guns. Most crimes are committed with stolen guns. Most of the mass shootings were committed by someone illegally buying someone else a gun, or holes in the background check system.
The laws are in place....and people are going to break them. Passing more laws won't solve any problems.
And you neighbor doesn't own an automatic weapon. No one does unless they have a Class 3 permit. I cant recall of any major shooting where the person used an automatic weapon. The LA bank robberies back in the 90s used automatic rifles, but they were modified by them.
mental health issue
not a gun supply problem
not a gun supply problem
Gun violence rates in America are 20 times higher than any other highly developed country.
We spend the the same relative % of our healthcare $ on mental health that these countries do, 6-8%.
we do not have 20 times more violent mentally disturbed untreated people in this country than the rest of the civilized world.
To say it is a mental health issue is absurd and completely unsupported by fact.
We spend the the same relative % of our healthcare $ on mental health that these countries do, 6-8%.
we do not have 20 times more violent mentally disturbed untreated people in this country than the rest of the civilized world.
To say it is a mental health issue is absurd and completely unsupported by fact.
so you dont think that when someone kills another human being that the person pulling the trigger has a mental health issue?
i would venture to say the only time i would say a mental health issue was absent would be in a case of self defense, but the mental health issue would come after the act.
how many soldiers that have killed other humans in active combat develop mental health issues.
I've never heard Martin referred to as "anti second amendment," but my personal feeling is that he's one of the good guys. Probably the best in the state at fighting for the First Amendment and open government. He's not afraid to take a stand, even an unpopular one, and actually gets meaningful things done in Columbia.
I suppose we all have our pet issues, and maybe if I was a gun nut, I wouldn't like him either.
I suppose we all have our pet issues, and maybe if I was a gun nut, I wouldn't like him either.
This is the problem with the gun debate. Automatic weapons are already heavily regulated. If you want to have a conversation about gun rights/regulations, at least first understand the proper terminology...many lawmakers can't which scares the hell out of me.
Always has been and will be a heart issue except for the ones that is mentality distributed.
Larry Martin is one of the good guys. He a conservative and fights for Pickens County and yes, I live in his Senate district. He's not a libertarian which is why some of the Ron Paul-affiliated supporters and groups don't like him. These include Club for Growth, National Association of Gun Rights, FITSNEWS, and Americans for Prosperity among others. Libertarian is not conservative.
My bad semi attomatic. How many times do you need a gun to shoot,to kill a dear or squirrel? Maybe someone needs more practice shooting and less bullets rapid firing. And I don't know all about it thats why I ask. I swear some of you guys are such smart asses. When a man can carry a weapon into the atlanta airport and be rude to the cop thats asking him why but its legal to do it then the DAM LAWS ARE NOT STRICKED ENOUGH PERIOD.
I realize no one cares about facts but I thought I would give a few.
300 more people were killed in car accidents last year than by guns. A large majority of those accidents were caused by traffic violations (speeding, dui, texting/talking)
According to several articles more than 90% of gun deaths were by gang members or repeat violent offenders. Pretty sure not many gang members walk in a gun store and purchase a gun. If you are a violent offender it is illegal to own a gun.
MADD article states more than 28 million Americans admit to driving drunk. 10,000 DUI deaths per year.
I'm pretty good with my bow and arrow. So I will go along with the libs if they are ready to ban pot, alcohol, cell phones and cars. Now with that sad I have absolutely no problem addressing the flea market gun sales loop hole
300 more people were killed in car accidents last year than by guns. A large majority of those accidents were caused by traffic violations (speeding, dui, texting/talking)
According to several articles more than 90% of gun deaths were by gang members or repeat violent offenders. Pretty sure not many gang members walk in a gun store and purchase a gun. If you are a violent offender it is illegal to own a gun.
MADD article states more than 28 million Americans admit to driving drunk. 10,000 DUI deaths per year.
I'm pretty good with my bow and arrow. So I will go along with the libs if they are ready to ban pot, alcohol, cell phones and cars. Now with that sad I have absolutely no problem addressing the flea market gun sales loop hole
Every gun I own is semi auto except for one. Semi auto is not full auto. Full auto is illegal and used only by military. To be honest, I can shoot 5 rounds out of a pump shot gun as quick as you can fire a semi auto shot gun.
Goodness dude get educated on the subject then get back to us.
I don't need to it sounds like all of you are the experts. I have an opinion and I just was asking a question. If you don't want to answer then STFU. I don't have a gun never owned one and don't get my rocks off sitting in a tree waiting on a deer to walk out so I can ambush it. With that said I'm glad people do because I hate hitting them with my car. I have no problems with gun lovers my son loves them and most of my friends. I still don't see whats the harm in changing some of the laws. Again if you can walk in the Atlanta airport caring a gun we have issues.
What a dumb effing statement. Yea, 13 guns per person is "not a supply problem."
Holy effing cow thank you for a rational fact and not some stupid-ass comment like most people on here keep spewing.
I own guns, I have my CWP and I believe strongly in our right to own guns. I just don't think my rights are infringed upon if someone asks to verify that I still have a right to own a gun before selling it to me.
Maybe I am crazy, but I don't get pissed off and claim my constitutional right to vote is being infringed upon when I have my voter registration verified before I am allowed to vote. Why? Because there are dishonest people out there who are not eligible to vote and I don't want my vote being watered down by people who aren't eligible being allowed to vote. Does that mean people don't skirt the system? No. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't at least make an honest attempt to vet people beforehand. The same applies to guns. I have guns for protection and the harder it is for a criminal to have one, the better my odds are when I encounter one. Again, it doesn't mean a person wanting a gun bad enough can't get one, but I at least want to make it as hard as I can and we do not make it hard at all.
I go to gun shows and what stands out to me? What stands out is that there are big "private seller" signs at those tables where the "dealers" are not really dealers. Why is that? The reason is that they attract more buyers by basically advertising that they don't have to subject them to background checks. They can sell a used gun for more than the licensed dealer in the booth next to them can sell the same gun brand new because he has to perform a background check. And often I find the private party "dealer" has more guns for sale than the licensed gun dealer. It makes no sense. Any criminal can walk into a gun show, no questions asked, and buy a gun and walk out. They just committed a crime by buying that gun, but the hardliners in the gun lobby want to do nothing to stop that crime from being committed because it would supposedly infringe upon the 2nd amendment rights of the law abiding citizen like me. Bull crap. They are allowing criminals to trample my rights is the way I see it.
Maybe I am crazy, but I don't get pissed off and claim my constitutional right to vote is being infringed upon when I have my voter registration verified before I am allowed to vote. Why? Because there are dishonest people out there who are not eligible to vote and I don't want my vote being watered down by people who aren't eligible being allowed to vote. Does that mean people don't skirt the system? No. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't at least make an honest attempt to vet people beforehand. The same applies to guns. I have guns for protection and the harder it is for a criminal to have one, the better my odds are when I encounter one. Again, it doesn't mean a person wanting a gun bad enough can't get one, but I at least want to make it as hard as I can and we do not make it hard at all.
I go to gun shows and what stands out to me? What stands out is that there are big "private seller" signs at those tables where the "dealers" are not really dealers. Why is that? The reason is that they attract more buyers by basically advertising that they don't have to subject them to background checks. They can sell a used gun for more than the licensed dealer in the booth next to them can sell the same gun brand new because he has to perform a background check. And often I find the private party "dealer" has more guns for sale than the licensed gun dealer. It makes no sense. Any criminal can walk into a gun show, no questions asked, and buy a gun and walk out. They just committed a crime by buying that gun, but the hardliners in the gun lobby want to do nothing to stop that crime from being committed because it would supposedly infringe upon the 2nd amendment rights of the law abiding citizen like me. Bull crap. They are allowing criminals to trample my rights is the way I see it.
Well said, sir. While there certainly are people that would to eliminate guns, the VAST majority of the country believes in common-sense reforms, like universal background checks and a waiting period. After such items are completed, then you get to hunt or protect yourself as you see fit. The people that claim the government is creating a registry just to come after your guns are ultra right-wing lunatics.
I had never heard of Senator Larry Martin before this thread, what exactly makes him "an anti second amendment obstructionist"?
Those laws may or may not make sense. But what is almost certain is they won't lower gun violence. Most guns out there killing people in terrorist or criminal activities weren't obtained through legal means.
But if liberals want all these checks I will trade you that for universal ID verification for voters and removal of all sanctuary provisions for illegal immigration. Oh wait, I forgot, liberals get to pick and choose what laws and parts of the Constitution they follow.
But if liberals want all these checks I will trade you that for universal ID verification for voters and removal of all sanctuary provisions for illegal immigration. Oh wait, I forgot, liberals get to pick and choose what laws and parts of the Constitution they follow.
Serious question, how old are you?Why dont you educate us then Mr. Potato Head?
I would have agreed in the past with you. But have you seen what our government is doing these days? I no longer feel that way. Any nation that elects Obama twice and then picks Trump and Hillary us to be feared. Guns are good!
If you were familiar with many of the gun laws in places like DC, Chicago, and San Francisco, you'd realize that a registry used to confiscate guns isn't that far-fetched.
A few years ago a NY newspaper used the gun registry to map out all of the local gun owners. Do you feel that isn't invasive? It's already happened, so don't act like it's just a "right-wing lunatic" fantasy.
I can see the point of universal background checks, although I'll admit I disagree with them. Waiting periods are pure garbage in the prevention of crime, but you can say that about the vast majority of gun laws that "make sense" being enacted by left-leaning states/cities.
If most of these gun laws were effective, you wouldn't have the problems that plague Chicago, which has made it a point to not only make excessive laws, but also drive all gun dealers out of business. Liberals point to NYC as proof gun laws work, but I'd argue the aggressive nature of police stopping and randomly frisking as more the reason, which has been stopped and an entirely different conversation.
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Sure does... but mostly in your mother's panties.
All kidding aside, what is your creepy obsession with me?
Mostly that you feel like talking shit about everybody's posts but never actually have anything to add yourself. You have one claim to fame, and it's one stupid thing that you think that makes you so popular.
What it boils down to is that you're just so douchy that it just irks me.
The newspaper publishing locations is hardly the government coming after your guns. So yes, it is far fetched to think the government was going to do something. This is purely a matter of capitalism (newdpaper wants to sell copies) and freedom of information.
Waiting periods TOTALLY make sense - not sure how you could not see this. John walks in on his wife cheating on him. John walks to pawn shop and buys gun. John shoots cheating wife and dude. With a waiting period, John would have to wait 3-10 days for said gun. He would then have time to think about shooting his wife, and would probably not do it. As you can see, waiting periods can very easily lower the number of "crimes of passion."
And NYC doesn't "stop and frisk" anymore. Has the crime rate gone up?
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