Shultz 2020.

[Casa_del_Tigre]

I know the Dems aren’t excited, but I’m hoping this guy runs. It would be nice to have a very successful business person that understands the real world.

Only problem is successful and real world doesn’t mix for the republicans or Dems.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/28/wal...rs-slam-howard-schultz-over-possible-run.html

 

[hopefultiger13]

I know the Dems aren’t excited, but I’m hoping this guy runs. It would be nice to have a very successful business person that understands the real world.

Only problem is successful and real world doesn’t mix for the republicans or Dems.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/28/wal...rs-slam-howard-schultz-over-possible-run.html

As an independent, I'm intrigued by this. I'm pretty socially liberal, but come down on the conservative side fiscally. I have no problem with a businessman running the show. As long as he's a smart guy and can check his ego at the door. By that, I mean that smart folks know that they are smart and don't have to tell everyone how smart they are. They are also smart enough to know what they don't know and get expert help on that.

I don't expect a businessman to be a polished politico. But I expect him to learn fast and hire good people to help him and not a bunch of felons.

And I expect him to be smart enough not to say that I'm going to run government like a business. Government is NOT a business. It has parts that can definitely be run in a business like manner and more parts that IMHO would be better off privatized. But businesses have a primary goal of turning a profit, and the government provides a lot of services that don't lend themselves to this model (Police, Firemen, EPA, Social Services, etc). I don't want the folks in charge of inspecting food or controlling immigration to be driven by a budget first and foremost. If you start down that path, you end up trying to jam a square peg in a round hole.

But again I have no problem with putting a businessman in charge. I'd suggest that we don't go with a shady reality show star who's primary goals in life seem to be to put his name on anything he can and tell anyone who will listen how great he is. Elect a clown, expect a circus. And that is EXACTLY what we have right now. BUT I don't mind the IDEA of electing someone from outside Washington and Politics Let's just do better next time.

 

[Rychek4]

I know the Dems aren’t excited, but I’m hoping this guy runs.

In a ranked choice scenario we could have meaningful third-party candidates, but not until then I am afraid.

 

[FLaw47]

I'm opposed to anyone who makes Trump's defeat less likely and that's what Schultz is.

He could potentially be a meaningful third party candidate because he could play spoiler.

That being said, I'm someone who doesn't see political experience as a bad thing so he wouldn't be my preference.

 

[ChicagoTiger85]

Please no. He's awful. Not sure what his constituency would even be.

 

[Casa_del_Tigre]

Please no. He's awful. Not sure what his constituency would even be.

I’m curious who you’d like? I’ve always thought we need more business first guys. Not Trump lol when I’m saying this.

He seems like he’d be a lock for the DNC back in the 90s. The problem with him and a lot of people are that the two political parties don’t represent them.

 

[FLaw47]

I’m curious who you’d like? I’ve always thought we need more business first guys. Not Trump lol when I’m saying this.

He seems like he’d be a lock for the DNC back in the 90s. The problem with him and a lot of people are that the two political parties don’t represent them.

Why is a business first guy theoretically better?

 

[Casa_del_Tigre]

Why is a business first guy theoretically better?

Because they would understand the private sector. Something Lawyers can’t get from career academia economist.

 

[FLaw47]

Because they would understand the private sector. Something Lawyers can’t get from career academia economist.

And someone who was a working stiff (for example) incapable of understanding the private sector? I think we put business owners on too much of a pedestal in this country, honestly.

 

[Casa_del_Tigre]

And someone who was a working stiff (for example) incapable of understanding the private sector? I think we put business owners on too much of a pedestal in this country, honestly.

How is that? We never have business first people in politics. Trump isn’t a business guy, he is a reality star.

There is a reason more and more idiots are screaming free everything. It is easy to misunderstand the economy when you have never contributed to it. Look at Bernie’s campaign. He’s going to help women pay but couldn’t figure it out on his campaign. He also said wants everyone to pay employees 15 an hour but couldn’t figure out a way to budget it out for his workers.

Shultz has been very successful and he did it the right way. He also compensated his employees the right way. He gave them all the stuff these new age liberals cry about. Only catch being they have to work. He could never win the DNC primary. Even though he grew up poor he is now a billionaire. He is part of the problem now lol.

If you don’t align with socialism or nationalism who do you vote for? I’m anti government but happy to see a candidate actually mention the debt issue. FDR changed economics to align with countless debt and spending.

 

[FLaw47]

How is that? We never have business first people in politics. Trump isn’t a business guy, he is a reality star.

There is a reason more and more idiots are screaming free everything. It is easy to misunderstand the economy when you have never contributed to it. Look at Bernie’s campaign. He’s going to help women pay but couldn’t figure it out on his campaign. He also said wants everyone to pay employees 15 an hour but couldn’t figure out a way to budget it out for his workers.

Shultz has been very successful and he did it the right way. He also compensated his employees the right way. He gave them all the stuff these new age liberals cry about. Only catch being they have to work. He could never win the DNC primary. Even though he grew up poor he is now a billionaire. He is part of the problem now lol.

If you don’t align with socialism or nationalism who do you vote for? I’m anti government but happy to see a candidate actually mention the debt issue. FDR changed economics to align with countless debt and spending.

I don't think you have to be a business owner to understand those things. I've never owned a business or even had a direct report but I understand none of the stuff is free and you need to pay for it to make it last. And I'm just some dude. There are plenty of business owners on this board who are idiots (granted, not the same as being a CEO of a major corporation, granted). I just think that Sanders was an ideas guy and not a details guy and that it had nothing to do with him never owning a business. Clinton's policies were pretty sound but she hadn't "worked" in decades.

I just don't view business experience as a good thing in and of itself.

 

[Woody1405]

How is that? We never have business first people in politics. Trump isn’t a business guy, he is a reality star.

There is a reason more and more idiots are screaming free everything. It is easy to misunderstand the economy when you have never contributed to it. Look at Bernie’s campaign. He’s going to help women pay but couldn’t figure it out on his campaign. He also said wants everyone to pay employees 15 an hour but couldn’t figure out a way to budget it out for his workers.

Shultz has been very successful and he did it the right way. He also compensated his employees the right way. He gave them all the stuff these new age liberals cry about. Only catch being they have to work. He could never win the DNC primary. Even though he grew up poor he is now a billionaire. He is part of the problem now lol.

If you don’t align with socialism or nationalism who do you vote for? I’m anti government but happy to see a candidate actually mention the debt issue. FDR changed economics to align with countless debt and spending.

FDR was the greatest president of the 20th century and probably the second greatest of all time to Lincoln. FDR saved this country from total economic collapse, and likely saved it from becoming a socialist or communist government by making meaningful economic changes when people were literally starving to death. He and Winston Churchill saved us from Japan and Nazi Germany by forming a strong coalition that exists to this day. Churchill thought FDR was the greatest person on the planet. All of his social programs worked. They also didn't break the bank. The problem was and is that the morons in Congress did not change the rules and the funding as life expectancy increased. To this day the Congress won't make needed changes to SS. Today the republicans don't even mention things like the national debt and the insolvency of SS. Pathetic.

 

[iceheart08]

**** this dude.

 

[Casa_del_Tigre]

FDR was the greatest president of the 20th century and probably the second greatest of all time to Lincoln. FDR saved this country from total economic collapse, and likely saved it from becoming a socialist or communist government by making meaningful economic changes when people were literally starving to death. He and Winston Churchill saved us from Japan and Nazi Germany by forming a strong coalition that exists to this day. Churchill thought FDR was the greatest person on the planet. All of his social programs worked. They also didn't break the bank. The problem was and is that the morons in Congress did not change the rules and the funding as life expectancy increased. To this day the Congress won't make needed changes to SS. Today the republicans don't even mention things like the national debt and the insolvency of SS. Pathetic.

The government ran a new deal during world war 1, Its called printing money and creating an artificial boom. Post world war 1 the dollar was devalued. FDR was able to find a pedophile that would tell him what he wanted to here... “printing government money is how you fix the economic problems caused by printing government money.” The issue with the gold standard is you can’t just print money. Luckily Keyes took a couple Economics classes in college... FDR completely erased facts and pushed government first propaganda. FDR and the new deal was the death of America. We are talking about the 1930s on.

Fast forward to 2018. The dollar has lost over 90% of its value compared to gold. People then wonder why Healthcare, college, daycare, so on are too expensive. Now idiots think socialism will fix the issues caused by the government.


FDR lol.


Edit: I do like your favorite 2 presidents are the ones that over extended the federal government’s power. Y’all love some government.

 

[Bosse de Nage]

Make America an Israeli outpost again

 

[Bosse de Nage]

**** this dude.

Haha. I soy hope this guy announces.

 

[Rychek4]

The dollar has lost over 90% of its value compared to gold.

It should be noted, the devaluing of the dollar was intentional.