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Is it hard for you to understand that vaccinations are a personal choice? America, the land of the FREE and home of the BRAVE!
Is it hard for you to understand that what you just said is limited?
Are there other vaccines that are required to go to college?
Can you drive a car without insurance,
Can you really say whatever you want?
 
y’all are ridiculous. Would rather potentially die than get another vaccine which would make at least a dozen you e taken over your lifetime.
I am vaccinated but there are more and more cases of vaccinated people getting COVID. COVID vaccines don't prevent you from getting COVID or spreading COVID. Matter of fact vaccinated people are most likely ones spreading the variant because we aren't showing symptoms despite carrying the virus.
 
You can be negative 3 days prior, start showing symptoms 2 days after the game (Monday) and now people have to consider being a close contact because they were around you Saturday.
Yep. I’m on “quarantine” now from work because my kids got it.
 
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Why would they do this? They need the money from ticket sales. And getting vaccinated or not is your choice. Oh wait, mandating this says the opposite.
When you login to your IPTAY account it gives the warning that you assume all risks associated with COVID. You have to select yes to buy tickets. So, this would do away with having to refund money if they operate at full capacity, correct?
That is an assumption of liability which means you cannot sue if you get covid at a Clemson event. If they add another requirement, such as a vaccination requirement, it is likely that they would refund instead of litigate. They may be able to argue that the ability to get a negative test or the vaccine allows them to keep the money, but I doubt it.

Personally, I would not mind schools implementing a vax requirement to "encourage" those on the fence to get the shot. I don't see it happening as there has been a COVID liability bill passed by the legislature and enough threats to state funding that higher ed in SC will likely avoid the confrontation.
 
I am vaccinated but there are more and more cases of vaccinated people getting COVID. COVID vaccines don't prevent you from getting COVID or spreading COVID. Matter of fact vaccinated people are most likely ones spreading the variant because we aren't showing symptoms despite carrying the virus.
This is, IMO, a community health mitigation effort. Regardless of who is spreading it, unvaxxed people are the ones that will over whelm hospitals. At the end of the day, thats why they don't want unvaxxed people at super spreader events in their towns, filling up their ICU's and using all the ventilators.
 
This is, IMO, a community health mitigation effort. Regardless of who is spreading it, unvaxxed people are the ones that will over whelm hospitals. At the end of the day, thats why they don't want unvaxxed people at super spreader events in their towns, filling up their ICU's and using all the ventilators.
Then reduce capacity also. Vax people are going be spreaders also. Mitigation doesn't work if you cant socially distance vaccinated or unvaccinated people. The main way to not get COVID vax or non-vax is to not be around people or be within 6 feet of someone for less than 15 minutes.
Again, I am fully vaccinated but COVID can and will infect vax or non-vax without discrimination.
 
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You are correct, but so is going to a football game. They were able to reduce capacity in 2020 and can prevent admission for a list of reasons.

With that said, I doubt we see such a requirement at Clemson because our legislature banned certain vaccine passports and other items for higher ed. I am guessing it gives Alan Wilson another chance to sue a state agency and waste more state revenue.
Is it hard for you to understand that what you just said is limited?
Are there other vaccines that are required to go to college?
Can you drive a car without insurance,
Can you really say whatever you want?
Apples and oranges
 
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If anyone decides to sell some tickets as a result of vaccination requirements please shoot me a DM. I’m willing to put down a deposit of sorts now.
 
Man I hope DV does this.
Lotta snowflakes out there scared to get a vaccine. Isnt that how the right used to try and bully the left. By saying youre "scared".
Vaccine was never meant to prevent getting COVID it is meant to prevent moderate-severe disease.
Its your right not to get the vaccine its also the schools right to prevent you entry into the game. Thats what makes America, America. You got choices baby. Wanna be unvaccinated, fine. Watch the game from home, it will save you a lot of money for you to spend on your medical bills ;)
 
I still want someone to explain to me why the number of deaths the last 18 months hasn't increased from the pre-Covid numbers? Wouldn’t a new killer disease add to the annual average? Why hasn’t that been the case? Please tell me like I am stupid because a new killer should add to the numbers.
 
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If they’re going to require negative tests, they should just require that across the board. Vaccinated folks are catching and spreading this too. I’d argue they are spreading it more than unvaccinated due to milder symptoms not leading them to quarantine.
This!!
 
I get so tired of you lemmings talking ab 'other' vaccines.

Like the ones running the normal course of years of testing?

Or this dumb thing pushed out and pushed through, likely, by some of the very people that helped morph it into something that affects people.

One is NOT like the other.
 
This is, IMO, a community health mitigation effort. Regardless of who is spreading it, unvaxxed people are the ones that will over whelm hospitals. At the end of the day, thats why they don't want unvaxxed people at super spreader events in their towns, filling up their ICU's and using all the ventilators.
Makes absolutely ZERO sense to not test the Vaccinated too if this is the goal. If everything you say is true, you would test everyone so as to not allow a Vaccinated person to asymptotically spread it to an Unvaccinated person.

So either the Officials are ignorant or there is some other goal.
 
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Because some things are more important than money. I believe putting this pandemic behind us is one of those things. I agree it's a personal choice whether or not to get the shot. But it's Clemson's choice whether or not to let you in the stadium.

That's the real world, all choices have consequences.
The "pandemic" will be here for a long long time. This virus isn't going to go away because of a 100% vaccination rate. I think some refuse to accept this as real life and thus unrealistic expectations come with it.
 
Then reduce capacity also. Vax people are going be spreaders also. Mitigation doesn't work if you cant socially distance vaccinated or unvaccinated people. The main way to not get COVID vax or non-vax is to not be around people or be within 6 feet of someone for less than 15 minutes.
Again, I am fully vaccinated but COVID can and will infect vax or non-vax without discrimination.
I agree, the un vaxxed shouldn't be attending at all.
 
The "pandemic" will be here for a long long time. This virus isn't going to go away because of a 100% vaccination rate. I think some refuse to accept this as real life and thus unrealistic expectations come with it.
Well that's a mighty big assumption you're making on my behalf. But rest assured that is not my thought process. The pandemic will not be here for a long, long time. Covid will be here for a long, long time. There is a world of difference in those 2 statements.
 
Well that's a mighty big assumption you're making on my behalf. But rest assured that is not my thought process. The pandemic will not be here for a long, long time. Covid will be here for a long, long time. There is a world of difference in those 2 statements.
Fair enough, but I wasn't directing it straight at you. Only those who think COVID will go away with a 100% vaccination percentage.
 
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I still want someone to explain to me why the number of deaths the last 18 months hasn't increased from the pre-Covid numbers? Wouldn’t a new killer disease add to the annual average? Why hasn’t that been the case? Please tell me like I am stupid because a new killer should add to the numbers.
I can't really explain it, but found this informative:

"Overall, the researchers found an estimated 3,358,814 deaths occurred in the United States in 2020—up by 17.7% from 2,854,838 deaths in 2019. The researchers also found the estimated age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9% from 715.2 per 100,000 population in 2019 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population in 2020."

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Deaths in America climbed by 18% in 2020—and Covid-19 wasn't the only cause​

 
I am vaccinated but there are more and more cases of vaccinated people getting COVID. COVID vaccines don't prevent you from getting COVID or spreading COVID. Matter of fact vaccinated people are most likely ones spreading the variant because we aren't showing symptoms despite carrying the virus.
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I agree, the un vaxxed shouldn't be attending at all.
Or the vax since they can spread delta variant unknowingly to vax as well as unvax. To totally stop COVID or slow it down a total shutdown is only real option. And we know no businesses or universities can afford that.
 
At this point I have absolutely no sympathy for someone who gets severely ill or dies from COVID.
Yeah I’m feeling the same way about overweight people who I see at a fast food restaurant stuffing their face or smokers inhaling multiple packs per day. Screw em’ I won’t feel empathy if they get severely ill or die.

SMDH
 
This is, IMO, a community health mitigation effort. Regardless of who is spreading it, obese people are the ones that will over whelm hospitals. At the end of the day, thats why they don't want obese people at super spreader events in their towns, filling up their ICU's and using all the ventilators.

You could replace "unvaxxed" with "obese" and the paragraph still makes perfect sense. Perhaps there should be a BMI check alongside the vaccination card check?
 
Yeah I’m feeling the same way about overweight people who I see at a fast food restaurant stuffing their face or smokers inhaling multiple packs per day. Screw em’ I won’t feel empathy if they get severely ill or die.

SMDH
There just isn't a logical equivalency there. It's basic if a = b and b = c does a = c philosophy level stuff. Your argument is not only full of logical fallacies, it is technically invalid.
 
If they’re going to require negative tests, they should just require that across the board. Vaccinated folks are catching and spreading this too. I’d argue they are spreading it more than unvaccinated due to milder symptoms not leading them to quarantine.
Man this has been one of the things I thought about. Vaccinated people having mild symptoms and still going out and about seems pretty dangerous as well. That is the confusing part. Both sides can really argue points that make sense to me
 
Is it hard for you to understand that what you just said is limited?
Are there other vaccines that are required to go to college?
Can you drive a car without insurance,
Can you really say whatever you want?
Yes you can drive a car without insurance. You just take the chance of getting your ass hauled to jail and sued.
 
There just isn't a logical equivalency there. It's basic if a = b and b = c does a = c philosophy level stuff. Your argument is not only full of logical fallacies, it is technically invalid.
You’re literally less intelligent than I gave you credit. Congrats
 
You could replace "unvaxxed" with "obese" and the paragraph still makes perfect sense. Perhaps there should be a BMI check alongside the vaccination card check?
If only there was a way to fix being obese in 5 minutes.
 
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