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Have you ever taken an entry level philosophy course? I'm genuinely curious.
Yes, have you had your sarcasm meter checked?

We’ve gotten to the point where people on both sides really don’t care if others get ill or die. THAT is the real pandemic.

All individuals overweight or have pre-existing conditions should get the vaccine. I’m getting numbers from our local hospital (almost daily) that is very eye opening. Sadly not ALL of the information is being released.
 
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And yet that doesn't protect near as well as a vaccine does.

Which again, takes 5 minutes.

But it has an extremely high correlation to keeping you out of the hospital, which was why the paragraph made perfect sense with that edit.

I guess your argument is that we shouldn’t expect people to lower their risk of hospitalization and their burden on US healthcare through actual effort?
 
Then reduce capacity also. Vax people are going be spreaders also. Mitigation doesn't work if you cant socially distance vaccinated or unvaccinated people. The main way to not get COVID vax or non-vax is to not be around people or be within 6 feet of someone for less than 15 minutes.
Again, I am fully vaccinated but COVID can and will infect vax or non-vax without discrimination.
But it doesn't make the vaccinated sick or in the hospital.
 
But it has an extremely high correlation to keeping you out of the hospital, which was why the paragraph made perfect sense with that edit.

I guess your argument is that we shouldn’t expect people to lower their risk of hospitalization and their burden on US healthcare through actual effort?

And @scotchtiger gets my full respect as a smart conservative.
 
At this point I have absolutely no sympathy for someone who gets severely ill or dies from COVID.
Screw you dude! My 13 year old who has numerous other health problems is sick with Covid right now and yes he is vaccinated!
 
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How do we know the “spread” is from the notorious DELTA VARIANT? There are no tests that differentiate/detect Delta from last year’s virus. Just another assumption and that’s the problem. Too many assumptions over all of this.
 
But it has an extremely high correlation to keeping you out of the hospital, which was why the paragraph made perfect sense with that edit.

I guess your argument is that we shouldn’t expect people to lower their risk of hospitalization and their burden on US healthcare through actual effort?
My argument is reality shows us that changing America's outlook on eating habits, food costs, etc is much more difficult to change even in 18 months rather than taking a vaccine in 5 minutes.

Would our country be in a better place if people took much more responsibility in their health and also communities were offered quality food choices? Absolutely. But that isn't reality.

Taking the vaccine is the simplest and easiest way to lower the burden on the healthcare system at this moment.
 
How do we know the “spread” is from the notorious DELTA VARIANT? There are no tests that differentiate Delta from last uear’s virus. Just another assumption and that’s the problem. Too many assumptions over all of this.
Thats actually false. There are tests that signify if the virus is the delta variant.
 
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How do we know the “spread” is from the notorious DELTA VARIANT? There are no tests that differentiate/detect Delta from last year’s virus. Just another assumption and that’s the problem. Too many assumptions over all of this.

This is most of the issue. You fully believe that what you just stated is true. That is completely fasles,yet you share it with everyone fully making decisions based on falsehoods.
 
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Let’s see how much some of y’all truly love clemson ootball now!

get vaccinated!
Well if I don't go, I will have 14 seats in the lower deck vacant for every game and I do not mind paying for them and keeping them empty, just so a vaccinated person cannot sit in them.

You see this can go both ways, its only $5k loss every year since I can still tailgate which still allows me to spread my unvaccinated self around everyone else that is going into the game.

*** See how stupid this sounds ***

Funny I can now fly to Colombia without a PCR test (because likely they don't differentiate between Covid and the Influenza), but can't get into LSU's stadium.
I enjoy Clemson football , am fully vaccinated but I will have to really decide if I want to attend games. My tickets my be on the ticket thread if Clemson announces this stipulation.
 
Give me the name of the test please because I have been selling Covid tests since last March. Rapid and PCR testing doesn't determine which variant. Genomic sequencing can but mot many labs doing that
 
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Well if I don't go, I will have 14 seats in the lower deck vacant for every game and I do not mind paying for them and keeping them empty, just so a vaccinated person cannot sit in them.

You see this can go both ways, its only $5k loss every year since I can still tailgate which still allows me to spread my unvaccinated self around everyone else that is going into the game.

*** See how stupid this sounds ***

Funny I can now fly to Colombia without a PCR test (because likely they don't differentiate between Covid and the Influenza), but can't get into LSU's stadium.

Just speaking for myself,but judging by you comments and views,I'm good if you don't come to the games.
 
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This is most of the issue. You fully believe that what you just stated is true. That is completely fasles,yet you share it with everyone fully making decisions based on falsehoods.
These tests are only done by the CDC when they get samples. A large percentage of the population doesn't have their sample sent to the CDC. So they are NOT getting tested for the Delta Variant.

But I'll also add....If they are, where's that data?
 
These tests are only done by the CDC when they get samples. A large percentage of the population doesn't have their sample sent to the CDC. So they are NOT getting tested for the Delta Variant.

But I'll also add....If they are, where's that data?


Positive tests go through genomics testing to identify the strains.
 
Thats actually false. There are tests that signify if the virus is the delta variant.
How did that work out for the PCR test? The gold standard cannot even tell the difference between flu A/B or Covid.

By the way if this Canadian case proves true, Sars-Cov-2 may not even be relevant or even exist, because according to that case they cannot separate that viral particle in samples. Perhaps its just that people are dumb and cannot discern information, cause the fact-o checkers don't say it's true and they are really the only enlightened ones with knowledge in this universe.

Additionally Delta was around months ago in Brazil and other places, so it was likely here all along because of the mutations of the virus did not just up and start over a year later, the virus is constantly mutating it is what viruses do. I digress, @TheValley91 is obviously a fact checker cause he is so enlightened. We should all listen and believe him Yo
 
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Positive tests go through genomics testing to identify the strains.
As noted in your article, there are a few labs that look at positive tests to determine variant. I would bet less than 1% of positive tests are sent for genomic sequencing BUT DELTA IS RAMPANT.
 
At this point I have absolutely no sympathy for someone who gets severely ill or dies from COVID.
Nor do I have sympathy if you develop a clot from the spike proteins in your system and die, see how that works. At least I have natural immunity and antibodies to defend me now vs. you who have to rely on further booster shots and likely will hasten your death either way even if Covid doesn't get you. Good luck with the pneumonia, myocarditis or other shit I cannot pronounce developing in your body from your auto immune response from the shots.

Again I like my .003% survival rate, probably more taking Zinc and other necessary vitamins to fight flu and common cold, but hey dude you're cool, just wishing a bunch of people dead on a football chat room because they do not agree with you.
 
How did that work out for the PCR test? The gold standard cannot even tell the difference between flu A/B or Covid.

By the way if this Canadian case proves true, Sars-Cov-2 may not even be relevant or even exist, because according to that case they cannot separate that viral particle in samples. Perhaps its just that people are dumb and cannot discern information, cause the fact-o checkers don't say it's true and they are really the only enlightened ones with knowledge in this universe.

Additionally Delta was around months ago in Brazil and other places, so it was likely here all along because of the mutations of the virus did not just up and start over a year later, the virus is constantly mutating it is what viruses do. I digress, @TheValley91 is obviously a fact checker cause he is so enlightened. We should all listen and believe him Yo

Just stop. You spread more garbage. You really believe the entire world and most of the Doctors have created a global conspiracy to make you take a vaccine?

The leap of logic that takes is moronic.
 
You could replace "unvaxxed" with "obese" and the paragraph still makes perfect sense. Perhaps there should be a BMI check alongside the vaccination card check?
At least then you could fit into your small ass seats, I mean when are they gonna start charging double for the people who sit half in my seats?
 
Just stop. You spread more garbage. You really believe the entire world and most of the Doctors have created a global conspiracy to make you take a vaccine?

The leap of logic that takes is moronic.
This is where your argument goes wrong... I am not going to take this vaccine. I have all the others. Doctors have proven over the last 10 years that they are out of touch with patients and there are very few small practices in lieu of the corporate feel of 10 docs in an office. There may be a conspiracy but I won't ever be able to prove. Just like you believe everything I have become cynical about most things except a higher power. I am not spreading anything only providing another opinion just like the doctors since I am a masters level student, business owner, and am responsible for over 30 employees that gives me the right to say what I want. If you don't like it say so, but you don't need to label someone conspiracy when you totally have shit for brains and cannot discern your way out of a wet paper bag.

I do enjoy rustling a bunch of you ladies on here though, because you are alarmist, fear mongering jerks just like most of the doctors who are promoting the jab from their powers that be and not asking enough of their own questions.

And just because I didn't go to medical school does not mean I did not have the qualifications to do so. Amazingly I know how to read people, it's a really cool skill, and I know when people are lying to me, obviously you do not. Good luck with that by the way.
 
My argument is reality shows us that changing America's outlook on eating habits, food costs, etc is much more difficult to change even in 18 months rather than taking a vaccine in 5 minutes.

Would our country be in a better place if people took much more responsibility in their health and also communities were offered quality food choices? Absolutely. But that isn't reality.

Taking the vaccine is the simplest and easiest way to lower the burden on the healthcare system at this moment.
Why do we care about a healthcare system that has been ripping us off for years, over charging for treatments, elective surgeries, etc? I don't.. the places have plenty of money they should reallocate their damn resources and build some more covid wings if they truly care about their Hippocratic Oath. These places are just like every other place and are all about the profits, believe me if doctors did not make any money, they would not put themselves at risk, nor would the hospitals have giant buildings.

Yes it's not reality to get people less fat, but seems like a damn good place to start with our children, not CRT in schools.
 
This is where your argument goes wrong... I am not going to take this vaccine. I have all the others. Doctors have proven over the last 10 years that they are out of touch with patients and there are very few small practices in lieu of the corporate feel of 10 docs in an office. There may be a conspiracy but I won't ever be able to prove. Just like you believe everything I have become cynical about most things except a higher power. I am not spreading anything only providing another opinion just like the doctors since I am a masters level student, business owner, and am responsible for over 30 employees that gives me the right to say what I want. If you don't like it say so, but you don't need to label someone conspiracy when you totally have shit for brains and cannot discern your way out of a wet paper bag.

I do enjoy rustling a bunch of you ladies on here though, because you are alarmist, fear mongering jerks just like most of the doctors who are promoting the jab from their powers that be and not asking enough of their own questions.

And just because I didn't go to medical school does not mean I did not have the qualifications to do so. Amazingly I know how to read people, it's a really cool skill, and I know when people are lying to me, obviously you do not. Good luck with that by the way.

What exactly is a Masters Level student? It's always funny when people try to present their credentials and come with made up stuff. Reminds me of a certain politician who always wanted to tout how great his "IQ" was. Perhaps the fact that I realize that Doctors and scientists had to get far more specialized education than I did, have to do continuing education, and might know more than I do. I don't think that my internet searching is equivalent to their years of experience,training,certifications

I could state my professional qualifications, which aren't unimpressive,but they have nothing to do with the expertise of infectious disease experts.

I have tried to present logical data, tried to make supported arguments, but all you come back with is ,"but the jab".

I'm not at all an alarmist or fear mongering. I would actually say that fits you more than me, since you are the one claiming doctors and the government are all out to get us.

It's truly not worth my time
 
My point and problem is the disinformation that our media has propagated. As I said in earlier post, I have been selling Covid testing since last March and know the pitfalls of testing. Also, I have no issue with anyone that wants to get the vaccine. To each their own. None of my business. My problem is media spreading fear to fit an agenda. I put the division that we see in our country almost entirely in the laps of the media. This country needs uniting not dividing and I’m not sure that will ever happen. Too much money being made through the chaos on both sides of the political aisle and media has been the lightening rod to stir the pot.
 
What exactly is a Masters Level student? It's always funny when people try to present their credentials and come with made up stuff. Reminds me of a certain politician who always wanted to tout how great his "IQ" was. Perhaps the fact that I realize that Doctors and scientists had to get far more specialized education than I did, have to do continuing education, and might know more than I do. I don't think that my internet searching is equivalent to their years of experience,training,certifications

I could state my professional qualifications, which aren't unimpressive,but they have nothing to do with the expertise of infectious disease experts.

I have tried to present logical data, tried to make supported arguments, but all you come back with is ,"but the jab".

I'm not at all an alarmist or fear mongering. I would actually say that fits you more than me, since you are the one claiming doctors and the government are all out to get us.

It's truly not worth my time
Yes, you should absolutely stop posting on the board, it is truly not worth your time, totally agree.
 
My argument is reality shows us that changing America's outlook on eating habits, food costs, etc is much more difficult to change even in 18 months rather than taking a vaccine in 5 minutes.

Would our country be in a better place if people took much more responsibility in their health and also communities were offered quality food choices? Absolutely. But that isn't reality.

Taking the vaccine is the simplest and easiest way to lower the burden on the healthcare system at this moment.

I agree that it's the simplest and easiest. But there are plenty of people shaming others for not taking the vaccine because they are concerned about long-term side effects, or suggesting that hospitals refuse them treatment. Meanwhile, the vast majority of those hospitalized are obese or have some other preventable health condition. And yet there is no accountability because their "fix" is "harder and less convenient."

The focus should be on fixing all of the factors leading to the undue burden on the healthcare system.
 
Screw you dude! My 13 year old who has numerous other health problems is sick with Covid right now and yes he is vaccinated!
I pretty clearly meant I have no sympathy for people who don't get vaccinated. Sorry abut your kid. I've lost close family from COVID, have a brother who is an ER Doc. Imagine how he feels watching people die everyday who didn't need to die. I've heard way too many gut-wrenching stories from him.

So again, at this point I'm not sympathetic if that your choice. But I appreciate everyone has the freedom to make their own, just don't expect me to cry for you.
 
Nor do I have sympathy if you develop a clot from the spike proteins in your system and die, see how that works. At least I have natural immunity and antibodies to defend me now vs. you who have to rely on further booster shots and likely will hasten your death either way even if Covid doesn't get you. Good luck with the pneumonia, myocarditis or other shit I cannot pronounce developing in your body from your auto immune response from the shots.

Again I like my .003% survival rate, probably more taking Zinc and other necessary vitamins to fight flu and common cold, but hey dude you're cool, just wishing a bunch of people dead on a football chat room because they do not agree with you.
No, it's because you and people like you are continuing to kill people with your selfishness. If you want to frame it as a mere disagreement over politics that's cool though.
 
Makes absolutely ZERO sense to not test the Vaccinated too if this is the goal. If everything you say is true, you would test everyone so as to not allow a Vaccinated person to asymptotically spread it to an Unvaccinated person.

So either the Officials are ignorant or there is some other goal.
except that the actual community impact is the people taking up hospital beds. Those are by far and away the unvaccinated so it makes all the sense in the world to have the people showing up to super spreader events be vaccinated. So that if they do get it or pass it around, people aren't dying on the first round of spread, now they can leave there and infect others sure, but because they are vaccinated they are less likely to do so.
 
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Or the vax since they can spread delta variant unknowingly to vax as well as unvax. To totally stop COVID or slow it down a total shutdown is only real option. And we know no businesses or universities can afford that.
Right so mitigate, by requiring those attending have the vaccine. Again, to lower hospitalization rates...
 
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I agree that it's the simplest and easiest. But there are plenty of people shaming others for not taking the vaccine because they are concerned about long-term side effects, or suggesting that hospitals refuse them treatment. Meanwhile, the vast majority of those hospitalized are obese or have some other preventable health condition. And yet there is no accountability because their "fix" is "harder and less convenient."

The focus should be on fixing all of the factors leading to the undue burden on the healthcare system.
People are shaming others for not taking the vaccine because they are ignoring factual evidence that it is safe and then spreading lies/misinformation.

Again, reality is, take the shot and you will be increase your chances of staying healthy exponentially. Obese or not.
 
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Yes, have you had your sarcasm meter checked?

We’ve gotten to the point where people on both sides really don’t care if others get ill or die. THAT is the real pandemic.

All individuals overweight or have pre-existing conditions should get the vaccine. I’m getting numbers from our local hospital (almost daily) that is very eye opening. Sadly not ALL of the information is being released.
So, you were countering his argument with sarcasm? That's a pretty sure sign your point is illogical.
 
I pretty clearly meant I have no sympathy for people who don't get vaccinated. Sorry abut your kid. I've lost close family from COVID, have a brother who is an ER Doc. Imagine how he feels watching people die everyday who didn't need to die. I've heard way too many gut-wrenching stories from him.

So again, at this point I'm not sympathetic if that your choice. But I appreciate everyone has the freedom to make their own, just don't expect me to cry for you.
Gotcha
 
People are shaming others for not taking the vaccine because they are ignoring factual evidence that it is safe and then spreading lies/misinformation.

Again, reality is, take the shot and you will be increase your chances of staying healthy exponentially. Obese or not.

Again, reality is, obtain a healthy weight and you will be increase your chances of staying healthy exponentially. Vaxxed or not.

See it works the other way again.
 
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Again, reality is, obtain a healthy weight and you will be increase your chances of staying healthy exponentially. Vaxxed or not.

See it works the other way again.
No, it does not. It literally does not. This is such a stupid argument. I don't understand how a gainfully employed adult could think this makes logical sense.
 
Again, reality is, obtain a healthy weight and you will be increase your chances of staying healthy exponentially. Vaxxed or not.

See it works the other way again.
That’s the sad part to this and is NOT being reported. My wife had a hospital mtg this morning and they’re now going to publicize each day:
Admitted- vaxxed or non vaxxed
In ER - vaxxed or non vaxxed
ICU - vaxxed or non vaxxed

My question to her was:
Ok, are they also going to release BMI?
Heart issues?
Smoker/nonsmoker?

Her response:
“No, only if vaxxed or not. They’re not giving out the actual vital information that people should know”

Just FYI for everyone, virtually ALL of her Covid patients that she’s had are overweight. We have a bigger problem in this country other than Covid and that is a personal health issue. Not really sure why this is being swept under the proverbial rug.
 
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