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Stephen King out here begging for Evangelical votes

That should stop them.

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Oh, it won't stop them... Just like they will vote for Trump. Again, I don't have a problem with a LOT of Trump's policies, I just believe that you could find someone who has those policies who isn't a scumbag. Same thing here.
 
There’s 2 choices… Trump or Biden… Walker or Warnock
Yup... The point is that it was THEIR choice. They picked this guy in the primary. A dude that freaking held a gun to his wife's head and hit her on the regular. A guy that's got kids by other women and only admitted it when he was busted by the press. Said that he's managed hospitals and worked for the FBI, none of which is true. Said he didn't even know the woman that said he paid for her abortion... until she showed the receipts and pointed out that she's the mother of one of the kids that he was hiding. THIS is the guy that the Christians are lining up behind? Nah... I'll take door number 2.

There are plenty of conservative candidates that AREN'T scumbags. As an independent, I'd be lining up to support them. I got no love for Biden and IMHO Warnock is Ga's version of Hillary on a state level. But if I lived in Ga, I'd vote Warnock over Walker and if Trump's the candidate for the Republicans, I'll hold my nose and vote Biden.

It is too late on Walker, but it's NOT too late on Trump.
 
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Yup... The point is that it was THEIR choice. They picked this guy in the primary. A dude that freaking held a gun to his wife's head and hit her on the regular. A guy that's got kids by other women and only admitted it when he was busted by the press. Said that he's managed hospitals and worked for the FBI, none of which is true. Said he didn't even know the woman that said he paid for her abortion... until she showed the receipts and pointed out that she's the mother of one of the kids that he was hiding. THIS is the guy that the Christians are lining up behind? Nah... I'll take door number 2.

There are plenty of conservative candidates that AREN'T scumbags. As an independent, I'd be lining up to support them. I got no love for Biden and IMHO Warnock is Ga's version of Hillary on a state level. But if I lived in Ga, I'd vote Warnock over Walker and if Trump's the candidate for the Republicans, I'll hold my nose and vote Biden.

It is too late on Walker, but it's NOT too late on Trump.
standards for thee but not for me

the republican mantra
 
Yup... The point is that it was THEIR choice. They picked this guy in the primary. A dude that freaking held a gun to his wife's head and hit her on the regular. A guy that's got kids by other women and only admitted it when he was busted by the press. Said that he's managed hospitals and worked for the FBI, none of which is true. Said he didn't even know the woman that said he paid for her abortion... until she showed the receipts and pointed out that she's the mother of one of the kids that he was hiding. THIS is the guy that the Christians are lining up behind? Nah... I'll take door number 2.

There are plenty of conservative candidates that AREN'T scumbags. As an independent, I'd be lining up to support them. I got no love for Biden and IMHO Warnock is Ga's version of Hillary on a state level. But if I lived in Ga, I'd vote Warnock over Walker and if Trump's the candidate for the Republicans, I'll hold my nose and vote Biden.

It is too late on Walker, but it's NOT too late on Trump.

Ben Sasse on his way out and Hershel potentially on his way in is all you need to know about the Republican Party in 2022.
 
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Ben Sasse on his way out and Hershel potentially on his way in is all you need to know about the Republican party in 2022.
It's frightening how they've normalized election lies and how their constituency requires it to earn their vote.

"Most of the Republican nominees on the ballot this November have either denied or questioned the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, according to a Washington Post analysis. In total, there are 299 GOP election deniers seeking House, Senate, and statewide offices in 48 out of 50 states, with the majority of the deniers currently forecast to win their races. Some 174 are running in safely Republican seats, while another 51 will feature in closely contested races. The races examined by the Post—which include races for governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, secretary of state, Senate and the House—all hold at least some degree of power overseeing future elections in the U.S."

 
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Yup... The point is that it was THEIR choice. They picked this guy in the primary. A dude that freaking held a gun to his wife's head and hit her on the regular. A guy that's got kids by other women and only admitted it when he was busted by the press. Said that he's managed hospitals and worked for the FBI, none of which is true. Said he didn't even know the woman that said he paid for her abortion... until she showed the receipts and pointed out that she's the mother of one of the kids that he was hiding. THIS is the guy that the Christians are lining up behind? Nah... I'll take door number 2.

There are plenty of conservative candidates that AREN'T scumbags. As an independent, I'd be lining up to support them. I got no love for Biden and IMHO Warnock is Ga's version of Hillary on a state level. But if I lived in Ga, I'd vote Warnock over Walker and if Trump's the candidate for the Republicans, I'll hold my nose and vote Biden.

It is too late on Walker, but it's NOT too late on Trump.
Dang my guy say he would vote for Biden. Economy , supply chain, gas prices, verge of WW3 be darned… he ain’t voting for a mean orange man
 
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Dang my guy say he would vote for Biden. Economy , supply chain, gas prices, verge of WW3 be darned… he ain’t voting for a mean orange man
That's exactly right. Trump is a BAD man. He doesn't need to be President. Biden sucks for sure, but he'll at least try to do what's right for the country. Trump will ALWAYS do what's right for Trump.
 
Dang my guy say he would vote for Biden. Economy , supply chain, gas prices, verge of WW3 be darned… he ain’t voting for a mean orange man
When Trump left office, we had 20% unemployment and 3300 people were dying a day from COVID. He also wanted to give bigger stimulus checks than Biden. How is that better?

Biden quickly changed the trajectory for those issues. The American Rescue Plan did contribute to inflation but it also led to full employment and vaccines being within arms reach of every American.

Trump also wanted to overthrow democracy, is a pathological liar and the most corrupt politician in history.

If the choice is between those two, the choice is EASY.
 
True to form the internet is the only place I see anybody actually fans of this administration. Everyone I ever talk to in real life are beside themselves about this 💩 show. I mean anyone I deal with in business to the guy that owns the gas station heck even people I follow about stocks. This whole circus is a debacle from top to bottom but I’m not gonna argue wicha… Y’all seem pretty dug into that thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
True to form the internet is the only place I see anybody actually fans of this administration. Everyone I ever talk to in real life are beside themselves about this 💩 show. I mean anyone I deal with in business to the guy that owns the gas station heck even people I follow about stocks. This whole circus is a debacle from top to bottom but I’m not gonna argue wicha… Y’all seem pretty dug into that thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You might be missing the point - my post wasn't about how great Biden is, I was addressing your disbelief that hopeful would vote for Biden over someone who should be in federal prison. If it's a binary choice, there is only one option for anyone with a moral compass.

You also live in one of the reddest areas in red state Florida so what else do you expect to hear from your gas guy lol?
 
Dang my guy say he would vote for Biden. Economy , supply chain, gas prices, verge of WW3 be darned… he ain’t voting for a mean orange man
Do you realize what you are saying? He is saying he can’t condone domestic violence, cheating on a spouse, repeated lies about employment and experience, paying for abortions, etc.
And you are like “as a conservative, I am okay with all this, my buddies and I voted for him in the primaries because …. Gas prices!”

Today’s conservatives have no balls. The only thing they haven’t come out and accepted yet is pedos but that’s probably going to be next. If they were willing to forget their values and principles and accept beating women, multiple affairs and children out of marriage, paying for abortions, and lies to advance a career, there is no limit to how low this new generation of cowards is going to go. You guys are fake. Fake religious people. Fake patriots. No moral or values. Hate the libs is your only guideline.
 
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Do you realize what you are saying? He is saying he can’t condone domestic violence, cheating on a spouse, repeated lies about employment and experience, paying for abortions, etc.
And you are like “as a conservative, I am okay with all this, my buddies and I voted for him in the primaries because …. Gas prices!”

Today’s conservatives have no balls. The only thing they haven’t come out and accepted yet is pedos but that’s probably going to be next. If they were willing to forget their values and principles and accept beating women, multiple affairs and children out of marriage, paying for abortions, and lies to advance a career, there is no limit to how low this new generation of cowards is going to go. You guys are fake. Fake religious people. Fake patriots. No moral or values. Hate the libs is your only guideline.
I’m not an expert on the political stuff but I think Tulsi somes it up pretty well. I’m assuming this is what you vote for and condone



 
I’m not an expert on the political stuff but I think Tulsi somes it up pretty well. I’m assuming this is what you vote for and condone



No, I’m a never Trumper Republican. You can whataboutism all you want, I don’t give a shit the left does. Two wrongs don’t make one right. I long for a time long gone when Republicans had balls, integrity and honesty mattered. Now, it’s just a bunch of snowflakes without a spine that justify their cowardice “because libs bad”. Pathetic. The other side being idiots doesn’t have to mean we get dragged down to their level. But that’s where the party has decided to go, go full victim complex, and vilify the shit of out the other side to justify losing values and principles. This country is doomed, when you have grown ass men that justify being evil because the other side is “mean”. 🤦‍♀️
 
@Elul77 Here's the past week in MAGA Land. I'm assuming this is what you vote for and condone.

 
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No, I’m a never Trumper Republican. You can whataboutism all you want, I don’t give a shit the left does. Two wrongs don’t make one right. I long for a time long gone when Republicans had balls, integrity and honesty mattered. Now, it’s just a bunch of snowflakes without a spine that justify their cowardice “because libs bad”. Pathetic. The other side being idiots doesn’t have to mean we get dragged down to their level. But that’s where the party has decided to go, go full victim complex, and vilify the shit of out the other side to justify losing values and principles. This country is doomed, when you have grown ass men that justify being evil because the other side is “mean”. 🤦‍♀️
I’m an Independent playing the cards I’m dealt. I didn’t vote in tbe primary but was hoping Ben Carson won the Rep ticket. He didn’t so I was left with Trump or the God forsaken policies of the left. Voted for Trump who overall thought did a dang good job. I could’ve done without his childish media spats and that type of stuff but some of that 💩 actually cracked me up. Funniest president ever IMO. I mean anybody you vote for is gonna be a baby/bath water situation so yea like I said earlier… Vote the opposite of what the demonic author/movie maker is begging you to vote
 
Na I don’t vote by the he said she said… I pretty much look at policies
Well you better think about what Trump will do if re-elected without another election to keep him in check. He will clean out every competent person in Washington in favor of loyal MAGAloons. They will do his bidding, no matter how criminal and be pardoned for it. He will destroy our NATO alliance and probably cede Ukraine to Russia. Our allies are already concerned about how much they can trust America, because they know if he returns, he will do everything in his power to dismantle our partnerships. This is about a hell of a lot more than taxes and inflation. America will be unrecognizable.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2022/10/10/country-after-second-trump-term/
 
I’m an Independent playing the cards I’m dealt. I didn’t vote in tbe primary but was hoping Ben Carson won the Rep ticket. He didn’t so I was left with Trump or the God forsaken policies of the left. Voted for Trump who overall thought did a dang good job. I could’ve done without his childish media spats and that type of stuff but some of that 💩 actually cracked me up. Funniest president ever IMO. I mean anybody you vote for is gonna be a baby/bath water situation so yea like I said earlier… Vote the opposite of what the demonic author/movie maker is begging you to vote

The root of problem isn't that Trump won the primary and was elected in 2016, although evidence was already very visible. The problem started once he was elected and Republicans defended his every action and justified it because of a strong economy or because he "owned the libs". This emboldened Trump and encouraged more of the same behavior. And he used his war with the left media (both sides are guilty) to further weaponize regular Americans and join his "us vs them" mantra. This played out nightly on Hannity and other primetime programs and daily on Twitter. He is a master of messaging.

Along the way, he destroyed anyone that questioned him on any decision or action. That's how we end up with the unfortunate events of J6 and the last two years of stolen election claims. Trump cannot stop being Trump....unfortunately millions of Americans aren't willing to hold him accountable to his actions and look to others in the party to lead the charge into 2024. Therefore, he still has incredible power over current and possibly future elections.
 
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Well you better think about what Trump will do if re-elected without another election to keep him in check. He will clean out every competent person in Washington in favor of loyal MAGAloons. They will do his bidding, no matter how criminal and be pardoned for it. He will destroy our NATO alliance and probably cede Ukraine to Russia. Our allies are already concerned about how much they can trust America, because they know if he returns, he will do everything in his power to dismantle our partnerships. This is about a hell of a lot more than taxes and inflation. America will be unrecognizable.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2022/10/10/country-after-second-trump-term/
If Trump won there wouldn’t be a Russia/Ukraine war to start with. Our allies?? Who our new ones like Iran?? Wow , lmao
 
The root of problem isn't that Trump won the primary and was elected in 2016, although evidence was already very visible. The problem started once he was elected and Republicans defended his every action and justified it because of a strong economy or because he "owned the libs". This emboldened Trump and encouraged more of the same behavior. And he used his war with the left media (both sides are guilty) to further weaponize regular Americans and join his "us vs them" mantra. This played out nightly on Hannity and other primetime programs and daily on Twitter. He is a master of messaging.

Along the way, he destroyed anyone that questioned him on any decision or action. That's how we end up with the unfortunate events of J6 and the last two years of stolen election claims. Trump cannot stop being Trump....unfortunately millions of Americans aren't willing to hold him accountable to his actions and look to others in the party to lead the charge into 2024. Therefore, he still has incredible power over current and possibly future elections.
How bout do what I did… whispers… stop watching the news. But I get it for some that’s like telling me to stop watching football. His war with the left? Ok then let’s not vote for Trump or the left. That’s basically the 2 choices and not voting for 1 is equivalent to voting for the other so here we are
 
If Trump won there wouldn’t be a Russia/Ukraine war to start with. Our allies?? Who our new ones like Iran?? Wow , lmao
You're right because he would have allowed Putin to take it without a fight.
 
How bout do what I did… whispers… stop watching the news. But I get it for some that’s like telling me to stop watching football. His war with the left? Ok then let’s not vote for Trump or the left. That’s basically the 2 choices and not voting for 1 is equivalent to voting for the other so here we are

I don't watch cable news or have a Twitter account, but that doesn't undo the millions that are still swayed by those media sources.

More importantly, I think you missed the spirit of my post. Americans focus so much energy on voting that we ignore the fundamental task we have with holding our elected leaders accountable in between elections. This is where the right failed with Trump and continues to struggle. It's why he is still an option in 2024.
 
I don't watch cable news or have a Twitter account, but that doesn't undo the millions that are still swayed by those media sources.

More importantly, I think you missed the spirit of my post. Americans focus so much energy on voting that we ignore the fundamental task we have with holding our elected leaders accountable in between elections. This is where the right failed with Trump and continues to struggle. It's why he is still an option in 2024.
You don’t this current administration is a total failure??
 
No, I’m a never Trumper Republican. You can whataboutism all you want, I don’t give a shit the left does. Two wrongs don’t make one right. I long for a time long gone when Republicans had balls, integrity and honesty mattered. Now, it’s just a bunch of snowflakes without a spine that justify their cowardice “because libs bad”. Pathetic. The other side being idiots doesn’t have to mean we get dragged down to their level. But that’s where the party has decided to go, go full victim complex, and vilify the shit of out the other side to justify losing values and principles. This country is doomed, when you have grown ass men that justify being evil because the other side is “mean”. 🤦‍♀️
THIS x 1000. I've never been a Democrat, but I did belong to the Republican Party in College. I've always been pretty moderate, but voted mostly Republican. It may be unreasonable of me, but I always considered the Republicans/Conservatives to be the "Adults in the Room" that keep the crazy ass left folks from screwing everything up. BUT the left was useful b/c they kept the Conservative folks on their toes and brought new ideas to the table on the regular. Some of those ideas were stupid as shit, and some of them make us all better.

That's gone now... The right is just as stupid/crazy as the left... Sometimes its hard to tell them apart. Take this as one REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE:

Crazy ass Liberals start talking about defunding the police b/c of corruption. Now police departments have never been perfect and there's always been problems here and there, but defunding them? REALLY? I'd bet any amount of money that for every cop that crosses a line, there's a 100 of them out there doing their jobs every day, keeping us safe, responding to emergencies, and locking criminals up.

Crazy ass Conservatives talking about disbanding the FBI. Now the FBI has never been a perfect organization and there's always been problems here and there, but disbanding it? REALLY? Look at all the files they made on Civil Rights leaders and entertainment folks over the years. But again, I'd bet any amount of money that for every bad FBI agent there's a 100 of them out there doing their jobs every day, keeping us safe, responding to emergencies, and locking criminals up.

Honestly, you can't tell one extreme from the other these days.
 
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THIS x 1000. I've never been a Democrat, but I did belong to the Republican Party in College. I've always been pretty moderate, but voted mostly Republican. It may be unreasonable of me, but I always considered the Republicans/Conservatives to be the "Adults in the Room" that keep the crazy ass left folks from screwing everything up. BUT the left was useful b/c they kept the Conservative folks on their toes and brought new ideas to the table on the regular. Some of those ideas were stupid as shit, and some of them make us all better.

That's gone now... The right is just as stupid/crazy as the left... Sometimes its hard to tell them apart. Take this as one REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE:

Crazy ass Liberals start talking about defunding the police b/c of corruption. Now police departments have never been perfect and there's always been problems here and there, but defunding them? REALLY? I'd bet any amount of money that for every cop that crosses a line, there's a 100 of them out there doing their jobs every day, keeping us safe, responding to emergencies, and locking criminals up.

Crazy ass Conservatives talking about disbanding the FBI. Now the FBI has never been a perfect organization and there's always been problems here and there, but disbanding it? REALLY? Look at all the files they made on Civil Rights leaders and entertainment folks over the years. But again, I'd bet any amount of money that for every bad FBI agent there's a 100 of them out there doing their jobs every day, keeping us safe, responding to emergencies, and locking criminals up.

Honestly, you can't tell one extreme from the other these days.
I agree 100% with every word. And for better or worse, I had the same mindset regarding the “adults in the room”. I cannot recognize the political landscape anymore. Where did the reasonable people go????
 
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THIS x 1000. I've never been a Democrat, but I did belong to the Republican Party in College. I've always been pretty moderate, but voted mostly Republican. It may be unreasonable of me, but I always considered the Republicans/Conservatives to be the "Adults in the Room" that keep the crazy ass left folks from screwing everything up. BUT the left was useful b/c they kept the Conservative folks on their toes and brought new ideas to the table on the regular. Some of those ideas were stupid as shit, and some of them make us all better.

That's gone now... The right is just as stupid/crazy as the left... Sometimes its hard to tell them apart. Take this as one REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE:

Crazy ass Liberals start talking about defunding the police b/c of corruption. Now police departments have never been perfect and there's always been problems here and there, but defunding them? REALLY? I'd bet any amount of money that for every cop that crosses a line, there's a 100 of them out there doing their jobs every day, keeping us safe, responding to emergencies, and locking criminals up.

Crazy ass Conservatives talking about disbanding the FBI. Now the FBI has never been a perfect organization and there's always been problems here and there, but disbanding it? REALLY? Look at all the files they made on Civil Rights leaders and entertainment folks over the years. But again, I'd bet any amount of money that for every bad FBI agent there's a 100 of them out there doing their jobs every day, keeping us safe, responding to emergencies, and locking criminals up.

Honestly, you can't tell one extreme from the other these days.
Umm, I feel like we need to point out that Defund the Police was a far-left mantra that got very little traction with the Democratic base. Defund the FBI is a central plank in the MAGA base's platform. Apples to oranges.
 
Ben Sasse on his way out and Hershel potentially on his way in is all you need to know about the Republican Party in 2022.
You seen this guy running for senate in Pennsylvania? Dude can't even carry on a conversation.

Both sides have issues.
You're right because he would have allowed Putin to take it without a fight.
Not sure how Trump winning would keep Ukraine from fighting off Russia. Sure, we are sending them aid (as are a lot of our allies) but Ukraine is fighting this war, not the US. They fought Russia back before anyone else got involved.

Your comment is a pretty big insult to Ukraine, honestly.
Right and that’s why Putin waited for Biden to take office before he made his move 🤡
I can't say for sure it's the REASON Putin waited, but this cannot be ignored. And I am far from a Trump lover.
 
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