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Thoughts on the 28th amendment?

So how was he held accountable?
By being put through the ringer of an impeachment, that's how. Did you believe Trump's impeachment(s) had no effect on him personally?

For the record, at the time, I was furious with Clinton and I would have understood if he was convicted.
 
By being put through the ringer of an impeachment, that's how. Did you believe Trump's impeachment(s) had no effect on him personally?

For the record, at the time, I was furious with Clinton and I would have understood if he was convicted.
Again, he was being impeached for lying to congress and obstruction of justice. NOT for the affair.

Additionally, when it was time to vote for actual impeachment, the dems voted against it. There was ZERO accountability for the affair. He continued to be one of, if not the most popular dem potus ever afterwards. That is some serious accountability, lol.
 
Again, he was being impeached for lying to congress and obstruction of justice. NOT for the affair.

Additionally, when it was time to vote for actual impeachment, the dems voted against it. There was ZERO accountability for the affair. He continued to be one of, if not the most popular dem potus ever afterwards. That is some serious accountability, lol.
Why do you keep bringing up what he wasn't impeached for when I didn't specify? I was simply responding to your LOL that Dems aren't held accountable and you mentioned Clinton as an example.

But enough man, as usual, you're just here to derail another thread and I'm not playing.
 
Why do you keep bringing up what he wasn't impeached for when I didn't specify? I was simply responding to your LOL that Dems aren't held accountable and you mentioned Clinton as an example.

But enough man, as usual, you're just here to derail another thread and I'm not playing.
It's just a gut feeling. Nothing that he's done, and I do like his willingness to take them on. I just genuinely worry he might have a John Edwards type thing going on that could leave the Dems in a real lurch.

Because for some reason this country holds democrats far more accountable for sexual indiscretions than it does republicans. Like, far more. It's almost as if republicans really have no principles at all.
Above is the post I was replying to about dems. It specifies sexual indiscretions. He was not impeached(i.e. held accountable) for that. He was impeached for lying to congress and obstruction of justice. I don't get what is so hard to understand.
 
Oh no, we definitely wouldn't want to ban the gun that the majority of mass shooters use! That would be wrong!

God help us if you ever get a seat in the Problem Solvers caucus...
Because of how the country accounts for mass shootings you mean? When 4 people get shot on the mean streets of Chicago by one person with a HANDGUN, it doesn't count because it's .....meh, gang violence. We only seem to call them mass shootings when they are newsworthy and of course the criminal is using an AR15..
 
Because of how the country accounts for mass shootings you mean? When 4 people get shot on the mean streets of Chicago by one person with a HANDGUN, it doesn't count because it's .....meh, gang violence. We only seem to call them mass shootings when they are newsworthy and of course the criminal is using an AR15..
Ok problem solver, what should the solution be for handguns? Gavin's proposal is a step in the right direction and one that most Americans could accept. I'm sure Dems would be willing to go further if they thought they could get bi-partisan support, but realistically, what could be done about handguns specifically?
 
Ok problem solver, what should the solution be for handguns? Gavin's proposal is a step in the right direction and one that most Americans could accept. I'm sure Dems would be willing to go further if they thought they could get bi-partisan support, but realistically, what could be done about handguns specifically?
I wouldn't ask to ban anything outside of automatic weapons, I would just make the gun buying process rigid with background checks, wait periods, etc as you state above.

There are roughly 400m guns in the country (as of 2020), AR's are less than 20m of those numbers and that isn't even accurate as they get classified together with other weapons of similar functionality but different weapon entirely. So if you really wanted to take most guns off the streets, you'd start with handguns which exist in most gun owning households.

The majority of mass shootings in America (true definition, where 4 or more people are shot regardless of gang related or not) are carried out with handguns because they are easier to conceal, easier to operate, easier to carry and hold upwards of 16 rounds (more than 30 with extended mags).
 
Personally, i'd rather see a ban on all firearms that aren't revolvers, bolt action/lever action, or pump action. Double barrel shotguns are fine too, as i ****ing love skeet shooting with my grandfather's old side by side. Get rid of all semi-automatic pistols/rifles/shotguns.

I don't think it'll ever happen, but it's what I'd prefer to see happen.
 
Ok problem solver, what should the solution be for handguns? Gavin's proposal is a step in the right direction and one that most Americans could accept. I'm sure Dems would be willing to go further if they thought they could get bi-partisan support, but realistically, what could be done about handguns specifically?
i could get on board with more federal regs, and … I hate to say it … because I think Newsome is scum, but I could agree with what he is proposing.

(I want to see what he is defining as a “assault weapon”, and “reasonable”, but we’ve already talked about that, no need to belabor)

My recommendation for what else could be done … is actually punishing criminals who use firearms. Stiff mandatory sentences for using a firearm in the act of a crime (holding someone at gun point during a burglary or car jacking), 15 years mandatory. Fire a weapon during the act of a crime, 20 years mandatory. We seem to be going the other way … we are taking these violent repeat offenders and releasing them or lightly sentencing them.
 
100% in favor of, although this signals to me he's definitely gearing up for a presidential run, and I don't trust this man. I also don't like the fact that his ex wife is a Maga slut now. She knows where the bodies are buried so to speak.
Been following his team's chess moves since we briefed him on the spent nuclear fuel issue a couple of years back. They want Kamala out and him, so to speak. Kounalakis (Lt. Gov.) will step in and make a solid Governor; got to brief her as well in addition to seeing her regularly at Coastal Commission hearings. She's not an elitist like he is & you can read it right away; at least I could.
 
Been following his team's chess moves since we briefed him on the spent nuclear fuel issue a couple of years back. They want Kamala out and him, so to speak. Kounalakis (Lt. Gov.) will step in and make a solid Governor; got to brief her as well in addition to seeing her regularly at Coastal Commission hearings. She's not an elitist like he is & you can read it right away; at least I could.
Am I terribly off in my gut assessment of him?
 
Am I terribly off in my gut assessment of him?
I give the standard person the benefit of the doubt (typically), but politicians tend to be both narcissistic and disingenuous, so I tend to judge them more harshly--not saying it's right; just saying that I know who I am (and I am an arsehole sometimes). He has an elitist (see French Laundry controversy) and slimy air about him. Having said that, at least he's investigating options for how to move forward on some of these more sticky issues--so I have to give some credit where it's due.

One of my peers asked me after the briefing "What do you think?" as we were sitting in his briefing room, before we walked out...I said "Well, I'm pretty sure he's not a vampire, because there were so many mirrors in there." LOL.
 
I give the standard person the benefit of the doubt (typically), but politicians tend to be both narcissistic and disingenuous, so I tend to judge them more harshly--not saying it's right; just saying that I know who I am (and I am an arsehole sometimes). He has an elitist (see French Laundry controversy) and slimy air about him. Having said that, at least he's investigating options for how to move forward on some of these more sticky issues--so I have to give some credit where it's due.

One of my peers asked me after the briefing "What do you think?" as we were sitting in his briefing room, before we walked out...I said "Well, I'm pretty sure he's not a vampire, because there were so many mirrors in there." LOL.
Haha fair enough. Something in my gut tells me he's bad news. Hope I'm wrong.
 
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Interesting, I like it.



1) Raising the minimum age to purchase a gun to 21
2) Universal background checks
3) A reasonable waiting period for gun purchases
4) Banning the civilian purchase of assault weapons
There is somebody out there who is getting threatening text messages from an EX girlfriend or boyfriend and they don't need a stupid waiting period.
 
Here a crazy idea, why don't we throw people in jail who have a rap sheet as long as my arm?
 
Interesting, I like it.



1) Raising the minimum age to purchase a gun to 21
2) Universal background checks
3) A reasonable waiting period for gun purchases
4) Banning the civilian purchase of assault weapons
Kiddos to Newsome. I've always said this would be the proper way to do it. While I disagree. Newsome appearing too competent to be a puppet Dem.
 
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