BOT has requested that the state's General Assembly give authority to Clemson to restore the name "Old Main."
Some truly moving words and testimony from trustee Bob Peeler.
Some truly moving words and testimony from trustee Bob Peeler.
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Wow. Good for Clemson for taking these steps. There's no way to defend anything being named after Tillman
Fantastic. Nothing should be named after that POS.
WOW!!!!!!!!!
This is great! True leadership by the BOT!
This is great! True leadership by the BOT!
Coincidence that I also changed my username from Tillman28? I think not.
Better than burning it down. Well done.
Buildings have to go through the legislature since they fall under the heritage act. Where as the honors college was Clemson controlled.
What about people with the first name Tillman. I know a couple........
will there be any way to read/watch peelers comments?
So Clemson has been protected all these years by a racist? Interesting.
It was originally know as Main Building but people referred to it as Old Main.
Good move. No one should have a problem with this or if Calhoun is changed. Now hopefully they tell the lunatics already talking about changing the name from Clemson to kindly go FO.
Good move. Better now than under intense pressure later. Proud of how it has been handled by our athletes and former athletes.
This University isn’t perfect, no one is, but this University is incredibly well-run right now.
Very good move by the BOT. On the flip side, I understand the carvings of Confederate generals on the side of Stone Mountain in Atlanta will be removed by the end of the year. While I have no issue and even support removing the confederate flag from government facilities, I think the dismantling of historical monuments is tragic and more representative of terrorist groups like ISIS. So many seem to be hung up on any and all reference to the Confederacy as constituting slavery and racism when, in fact, the War Between the States was started over economic trade restrictions placed upon the Southern States by the Union. Slavery did not even factor into the equation until two years into the fighting when President Lincoln, a shrewd Republican politician, recognized that declaring the emancipation of slaves would cause potential chaos in the South, to the military advantage of the Union. Sadly, the war is almost exclusively attributed to slavery now, especially by those less knowledgeable living outside the South. I for one had ancestors who fought for the Confederacy, none of whom owned slaves. I suspect that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers owned no slaves and were fighting instead to protect their homes and freedoms. I will forever be ashamed and detest the idea of slavery or racism of any kind. I have great friends two beautiful God children that are black that I love dearly. However, I will always chose to honor my ancestors who risked there lives, were seriously wounded, captured and survived horrible northern prisons for the land they loved.
Trust me - Tillman would NEVER take his curse off of SC.
He absolutely hated that place. I mean a deep, pathological hatred. To the point of unhealthy.
So we're gonna hate on people for something that's not their fault.
Interesting......
Wonder how much the University could do without the General Assembly's approval. Could they change the road signs to refer to it as "Old Main"? Stuff like that? Instruct University staff to refer to it as "Old Main" or "The main building"?
Even if they can't change the "official" name.
This isn’t true... every state that left the union had an Articles of Secession and slavery is mentioned in each one. To say that it wasn’t even a factor in the equation until two years into the war is not correct.Very good move by the BOT. On the flip side, I understand the carvings of Confederate generals on the side of Stone Mountain in Atlanta will be removed by the end of the year. While I have no issue and even support removing the confederate flag from government facilities, I think the dismantling of historical monuments is tragic and more representative of terrorist groups like ISIS. So many seem to be hung up on any and all reference to the Confederacy as constituting slavery and racism when, in fact, the War Between the States was started over economic trade restrictions placed upon the Southern States by the Union. Slavery did not even factor into the equation until two years into the fighting when President Lincoln, a shrewd Republican politician, recognized that declaring the emancipation of slaves would cause potential chaos in the South, to the military advantage of the Union. Sadly, the war is almost exclusively attributed to slavery now, especially by those less knowledgeable living outside the South. I for one had ancestors who fought for the Confederacy, none of whom owned slaves. I suspect that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers owned no slaves and were fighting instead to protect their homes and freedoms. I will forever be ashamed and detest the idea of slavery or racism of any kind. I have great friends two beautiful God children that are black that I love dearly. However, I will always chose to honor my ancestors who risked there lives, were seriously wounded, captured and survived horrible northern prisons for the land they loved.
OldMain28 was already taken?
I need a new last name since my ancestors fought in the Civil War. Any good ideas?
They fought in WWI, WWII, Korean, and Vietnam too but that doesn’t count.
They fought in WWI, WWII, Korean, and Vietnam too but that doesn’t count.
THE SLOPE IS TOO SLIPPERY! WHERE DOES IT END!? WHEN WILL WE STOP SLIPPING!?
I chose my username with a little more thought this time
Yep. Called "Old Main" since the beginning until he 1960s when Tillman family donated money holding school hostage. I am glad it is going back to it's original name. My dad still calls it old main to this day as he was in school in 50s.
I was honestly embarrassed that he had a building named after him when I read his back story.
It really wasn't why the North opposed secession though. They - including Lincoln - didn't much care.
Also - I believe the last US state to abolish slavery (practically speaking) was actually Delaware in December 1865. It was a slave state until well after the Civil war. Mississippi didn't actually ratify the 13th Ammendment until 2013 so they are technically the last one.
Emancipation Proclamation did not affect the Union states.
We get it man. You don't get it.
I was coming in to say this. Various other documents prove this as well. But people continue to die on that lie that can be easily proven to be a lie. It's weird.
The history of stone mountain is steeped in despicable KKK led racism and the carving is less than 100 years old. Leaving it up would be more akin to ISIS building monuments and then arguing to leave them to avoid "rewriting history".Very good move by the BOT. On the flip side, I understand the carvings of Confederate generals on the side of Stone Mountain in Atlanta will be removed by the end of the year. While I have no issue and even support removing the confederate flag from government facilities, I think the dismantling of historical monuments is tragic and more representative of terrorist groups like ISIS. So many seem to be hung up on any and all reference to the Confederacy as constituting slavery and racism when, in fact, the War Between the States was started over economic trade restrictions placed upon the Southern States by the Union. Slavery did not even factor into the equation until two years into the fighting when President Lincoln, a shrewd Republican politician, recognized that declaring the emancipation of slaves would cause potential chaos in the South, to the military advantage of the Union. Sadly, the war is almost exclusively attributed to slavery now, especially by those less knowledgeable living outside the South. I for one had ancestors who fought for the Confederacy, none of whom owned slaves. I suspect that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers owned no slaves and were fighting instead to protect their homes and freedoms. I will forever be ashamed and detest the idea of slavery or racism of any kind. I have great friends two beautiful God children that are black that I love dearly. However, I will always chose to honor my ancestors who risked there lives, were seriously wounded, captured and survived horrible northern prisons for the land they loved.
Props to Clemson for doing the right thing.
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