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Tim Bourret setting another reporter straight

Story says , Clemson ticket takers didnt let Hill's mom in, and CLemson Prsident came over and took care of her. CLemson fans booed a player of another team during warmups? Wow. That never happens. And UoSC fans had been threatening the lives of MD coach and players and actually stormed the field at halftime, and had fights, but CLemson somehow was in the wrong?
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Clemson is important in the sports world. UofSC, not so much.
 
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Clemson is important in the sports world. UofSC, not so much.
Looking at this guy's tweets, it also seems like he's decided he needs to expose something about Clemson. Apparently he thinks Trevor Lawrence is somehow in league with Donald Trump.
 
Looking at this guy's tweets, it also seems like he's decided he needs to expose something about Clemson. Apparently he thinks Trevor Lawrence is somehow in league with Donald Trump.
probably mad cause Dabo came down and got DW and TL from right under UGA’s nose
 
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What state was this in? In thought in SC it was across the board in either the last 60s or early 70s.
My guess is it was one that was subject to court-supervised desegregation, where the school was integrated by law, but where the court had given the school district certain goals that it wasn't meeting because of where people lived.
 
This is the story he was citing, FYI.

On November 16, 1963, 20-year-old Darryl Hill entered "Death Valley," the football stadium at Clemson University, and was greeted by the screams of 30,000 die-hard fans celebrating homecoming. Instead of building the stadium aboveground, the university had, in effect, dug a ditch and dropped the stadium into it, so fans entered at the top and peered down. Looking around the stadium, Hill couldn't see a single black person -- not sitting in the stands, not selling hot dogs, not pushing a broom.

In addition to playing halfback and receiver for the University of Maryland, Hill, the first black football player in the Atlantic Coast Conference, kicked extra points and returned punts, so during warm-ups he took the field before the rest of the team. When he did so on that day, Clemson's coach left his side of the field and walked to within a few feet of him. He stood right next to Hill, smoking his cigar and glaring at him for nearly 10 minutes before he walked back to the sideline. Later, as Hill practiced catching punts, the crowd booed if he caught one and cheered if he dropped the ball. Just as the game was about to start, a Maryland assistant coach ran onto the field and said, "Darryl, there's a problem. It's about your mother."

Hill froze. When he'd given his mother tickets for the Clemson game, he had told her that if his father couldn't leave his business that day, then under no circumstances was she to travel from Washington to South Carolina by herself. But that was what Palestine Hill had done.

Hill, still in uniform, found her at the gate, ticket in hand. "They won't let me in," she told him. Hill argued on her behalf, but the ticket taker was not about to relent, and the uniformed state troopers standing nearby saw no reason to intervene. Frustrated and angry, Hill started to return to the locker room to change so that he could escort his mother out of there. Just then a well-dressed white man showed up. Introducing himself as the president of Clemson University, Robert C. Edwards invited Mrs. Hill to watch the game with him and his family in the president's box. When Hill saw that his mother was in good hands, he went back out onto the field. His teammates soon heard about the incident. Jerry Fishman, his best friend on the team and frequent roommate on the road, asked Hill what he was going to do about it. Hill replied, "I'm going to light these people up!"

Hill caught 10 passes that day, setting a Maryland record, despite being double- and sometimes triple-teamed. When the game was over, Maryland Coach Tom Nugent was so sure there was going to be trouble -- even though Clemson had won, 21-6 -- that he ordered his players to get on the team bus in their uniforms. Their street clothes arrived separately the next day.

Maryland's second game was against South Carolina, in Columbia. Despite year-long threats to the contrary, the Gamecocks did take the field. Nonetheless, Maryland was apprehensive -- the coaches as well as the players. "The booing had started before we even came out on the field, surrounded by the National Guard," Nugent says. "There was so much anger and hatred in the air, it was truly frightening."

Adding to the tension was the fact that several days before the game, in addition to numerous ugly letters, Nugent had received a phone call telling him that at some undisclosed point in the game he would be shot and killed by a sniper. But the intimidating atmosphere seemed to have little effect once Maryland took the field. Hill scored on a 19-yard run in the first quarter, and with just seconds left in the half the Terrapins scored again to put Maryland up, 13-0.

South Carolina fans were incensed, and when the gun sounded for the half, hundreds of them spilled onto the field. The police made the Maryland players wait before they could go into their dressing room. Once the police had escorted the team inside, the crowd grew larger and more unruly. "There were people waiting out there with rocks and tomatoes and everything else," Nugent says. "It looked like there was going to be a terrible riot. It took 48 minutes to restore order." In the second half, South Carolina came back to beat Maryland, 21-13.

At the end of the game, says Fishman, "Darryl was attacked by fans as we left the field. We took off our helmets and held them by the face mask and swung wildly at a couple of hundred fans who were blocking our way to the locker room. We'd actually gotten used to their shouts of 'Kill Hill, kill Hill,' but when it got physical we had no choice but to fight back."
Thank God we have come a long way since those days, i cant fathom hating someone because their skin looks different than mine.
 
SportsByBrooks has been taking pot shots at Clemson through his media platforms for a long time now. He is a former UGA walk-on, with some obvious distain and thinly veiled vendetta against Clemson. Period. Why TF is he bringing up that article NOW and focussing negatively on Clemson? The article was published in the Washington Post...back in TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR. This guy has been all over Dabo, all over Clemson, and race baiting his readers to click on anything and everything he can find which paints Clemson negatively. He intentionally omits the parts of that article and any other pieces of news which do not fit his anti-Clemson narrative. I still can't seem to figure out exactly why he has made it his personal pet project to smear Clemson at every possible turn, but he most certainly has.

I think here is your answer

So Southerners catch Hell for reliving and sensationalizing the Civil War, but Mr. Brooks Melchior can dredge up a sensationalized part of history and it's OK?

Interesting article about Mr. Melchior in the Los Angeles Weekly. Also interesting that he has a talk show in Columbus, Ohio.


Didn't this guy have a major mental breakdown? Wasn't that why is previous sports website went away.

Probably after clemson beat OSU in the semis last year.
 
Unfortunantely, we still have Jim Crow Laws on the books Today! They are disguised in our law enforcement, voting etc.. Google works...
This is the exact type of hyperbole that detracts from social justice movement and adds nothing. I am not sure if you were around in the 1960s south, but anyone who lived through true segregation are probably rolling over in their grave at the suggestion that Jim Crow laws are in effect today. That or laughing and shaking their head.

google is fantastic, I suggest you use to understand the civil rights movement and voting acts.
 
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Maybe I'm missing something but I'm not sure exactly how Tim set the guy straight.

Seems like an issue of semantics: She was blocked at the gate. President Edwards did come escort her to his box.

This board by in large would prefer that the racist element in this story and in our country today NOT be pointed out. They prefer the status quo, thereby Tim set this writer straight. Racism is okay as long it’s not directed at a player while he’s running or catching a touch down, or sacking the opposing teams quarterback.
 
This board by in large would prefer that the racist element in this story and in our country today NOT be pointed out. They prefer the status quo, thereby Tim set this writer straight. Racism is okay as long it’s not directed at a player while he’s running or catching a touch down, or sacking the opposing teams quarterback.
I think our country actually does not need to forget where it came from. Learn from mistakes and grow. The original tweeter in question seems to have a bone to pick against Clemson after reading other tweets and only focused on the negative against Clemson in his tweets. I’m all for telling the good, bad and ugly. But let’s not just tell one side. This guy seems to only focus on the negative at Clemson.
 
This board by in large would prefer that the racist element in this story and in our country today NOT be pointed out. They prefer the status quo, thereby Tim set this writer straight. Racism is okay as long it’s not directed at a player while he’s running or catching a touch down, or sacking the opposing teams quarterback.
If you read the Washington post article he was basing his tweet on, then you would know he only told the stuff that made Clemson look bad (ticket person not letting Hill's mother in) and not the stuff that was good and kind like the prez taking Hill's mother to his box. He also stretched the truth (outright lied) about Frank Howard based on the article. The article was much more derogatory of UofSCjr and their fans, but not one mention of that - I am guessing because of his UGA / SEC ties.

I am not denying that racism was prevalent in the South (or all over this country for that matter) back in the day (even now in places), but selective reporting is what this dude was doing - he had an agenda.
 
If you read the Washington post article he was basing his tweet on, then you would know he only told the stuff that made Clemson look bad (ticket person not letting Hill's mother in) and not the stuff that was good and kind like the prez taking Hill's mother to his box. He also stretched the truth (outright lied) about Frank Howard based on the article. The article was much more derogatory of UofSCjr and their fans, but not one mention of that - I am guessing because of his UGA / SEC ties.

I am not denying that racism was prevalent in the South (or all over this country for that matter) back in the day (even now in places), but selective reporting is what this dude was doing - he had an agenda.

Saying he was reporting is a stretch. The original article was actual reporting. This guy was trying to make a point. And unfortunately nowadays, too often making a point means you ignore nuance or context.
 
I would say that Gantt entering Clemson "without much trouble" is probably a stretch.

Clemson put up considerable resistance to him coming. They spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees over two years. It took Gantt four or five applications and finally multiple lawsuits to get in.

Larry, I must say I admire your courage. I understand you walk a fine line here sometimes considering “the base” on this board. Please keep speaking up for facts and truth. I cannot recall exactly, but was it you who called out Richard Burr’s vehement response to players receiving money for their image and likeness for being the thinly veiled racist trope it actually was? Keep the courage. I’m often appalled by things I read here, but your ability to walk the fine line is appreciated.
 
Larry, I must say I admire your courage. I understand you walk a fine line here sometimes considering “the base” on this board. Please keep speaking up for facts and truth. I cannot recall exactly, but was it you who called out Richard Burr’s vehement response to players receiving money for their image and likeness for being the thinly veiled racist trope it actually was? Keep the courage. I’m often appalled by things I read here, but your ability to walk the fine line is appreciated.

I appreciate it. I don't recall saying anything about Burr so that must've been someone else.
 
This is the exact type of hyperbole that detracts from social justice movement and adds nothing. I am not sure if you were around in the 1960s south, but anyone who lived through true segregation are probably rolling over in their grave at the suggestion that Jim Crow laws are in effect today. That or laughing and shaking their head.

google is fantastic, I suggest you use to understand the civil rights movement and voting acts.

Don’t Need Google Poker:

Not only did I live through it, but still living it! Yes from the back of the bus, seeing a cousin hanging from a tree, being spit on, riots, racial epithets, bused, police brutality, church bombing...Yep born in the South by a mid wife, no hospital for blacks in 1958!

...& Still Believe In Our Country! FYI, My Great Grandma, Knew her well! Mother was born into slavery & died in 1978, Yep, Unofficially 116 years old! Again, Don’t Need Google For This!

Apology Accepted! Your Turn!!!
 
Don’t Need Google Poker:

Not only did I live through it, but still living it! Yes from the back of the bus, seeing a cousin hanging from a tree, being spit on, riots, racial epithets, bused, police brutality, church bombing...Yep born in the South by a mid wife, no hospital for blacks in 1958!

...& Still Believe In Our Country! FYI, My Great Grandma, Knew her well! Mother was born into slavery & died in 1978, Yep, Unofficially 116 years old! Again, Don’t Need Google For This!

Apology Accepted! Your Turn!!!
So life for you today is the same as when you came to age in the 1970’s? Today, there are establishments you cannot enter based solely on the color of your skin?

I am sure I cannot even imagine what life was like for you back in the day, but to argue that the impact and transformation that has taken place over your lifetime is not real....that segregation is still supported by Jim Crow laws, that the civil rights movement has not transformed our country...is just flat out nonsense. Perspective might be hard for you given what you have seen, but I pray you can someday appreciate the age you have lived through and take pride that your generation was the one responsible for it.

No apology given.
 
So life for you today is the same as when you came to age in the 1970’s? Today, there are establishments you cannot enter based solely on the color of your skin?

I am sure I cannot even imagine what life was like for you back in the day, but to argue that the impact and transformation that has taken place over your lifetime is not real....that segregation is still supported by Jim Crow laws, that the civil rights movement has not transformed our country...is just flat out nonsense. Perspective might be hard for you given what you have seen, but I pray you can someday appreciate the age you have lived through and take pride that your generation was the one responsible for it.

No apology given.
Odviously you are not reading My Posts!

Again, With All Of our issues; This Is My Country, Our Country & The Greatest On Earth...Got It! Do We have problems, Heck Yeah, But (Here it Comes), We have come a long way from 1863 but still have a long way to go! Yes, there are places I cannot enter because of my race, ask Gov. McMaster! Yes, Jim Crow ideologies remain; Do you realize no anti-lynching Law exist, the bill remains on Sen. McConnel’s Desk! Please, don’t let me start on voter suppression!

There Is Nothing In your last paragraph I am arguing, Nothing! I am so, so thankful for My Journey & Life! Dude, I Am Truly Blessed, God Loves Me, Unconditionally. In the midst of this pandemic my family, with three deceased, has been Very Very Blesses! I am a Proverbs 3:5-6 Man with No Fears!

So Yes, Again, I Accept Your Apology!!
 
Odviously you are not reading My Posts!

Again, With All Of our issues; This Is My Country, Our Country & The Greatest On Earth...Got It! Do We have problems, Heck Yeah, But (Here it Comes), We have come a long way from 1863 but still have a long way to go! Yes, there are places I cannot enter because of my race, ask Gov. McMaster! Yes, Jim Crow ideologies remain; Do you realize no anti-lynching Law exist, the bill remains on Sen. McConnel’s Desk! Please, don’t let me start on voter suppression!

There Is Nothing In your last paragraph I am arguing, Nothing! I am so, so thankful for My Journey & Life! Dude, I Am Truly Blessed, God Loves Me, Unconditionally. In the midst of this pandemic my family, with three deceased, has been Very Very Blesses! I am a Proverbs 3:5-6 Man with No Fears!

So Yes, Again, I Accept Your Apology!!

Where does McMaster say you can't go because of your race?
 
Can we admit (and take a moment to appreciate) the fact that the 'process' pretty much worked in this case? Somebody published something that was erroneous, he was corrected by an expert on the subject, he admitted his mistake while (apparently) leaving the whole exchange up as a lesson about jumping to conclusions and so as to minimize further he said/she said by others that might occur if the original exchange were removed. This is about as good a result as can be expected, I thin,.

did twitter remove the lie?
 
Where does McMaster say you can't go because of your race?
He does not say such! He is a member of a club that does not Accept Blacks, Forests Lake Club!!!

****Hold The Press, Retract, Apologies & Homework Done...***
Since being sworn in as Govenor, Forest Lake Golf Club, As Of A Couple Of Years ago; Accepted it’s 1st Black Member! Hurray for them, Progress!

Now let’s talk about Sucessions Golf Club?
 
He does not say such! He is a member of a club that does not Accept Blacks, Forests Lake Club!!!

****Hold The Press, Retract, Apologies & Homework Done...***
Since being sworn in as Govenor, Forest Lake Golf Club, As Of A Couple Of Years ago; Accepted it’s 1st Black Member! Hurray for them, Progress!

Now let’s talk about Sucessions Golf Club?

To be fair, the first black member joined about 18 months prior to McMaster being inaugurated. But i get what you're saying.
 
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