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Universal Basic Income is real, and it’s coming.

Thanks for posting, OP. Fascinating. I would vote for this guy because he sounds like he really thinks his way through problems and offers real solutions. God help us if we have a rational politician in office.
 
Yang’s theories are based on a lot of guesswork and speculation. Like a big chunk of the 3 billion needs to find this will come from the jails that won’t have as big a light bill once there are fewer incarcerations.

I dunno. Just seems flimsy to me.
 
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The slogans will be awesome

Hope and Yang!
I'm with Yang!
Make Yang Great Again.
When they go low, we go Yang!
Our best Yang yet. (ironically that went from a Johnson to a Yang)
Walk softly and carry a big Yang!
 
I don't understand how in a country where there are 1.14 open jobs for each unemployed person we need to provide a disincentive to work and grow the economic pie. If some day in the future AI takes all the jobs (which I highly doubt) maybe then it is a consideration. But this country needs more workers, not incentives for fewer.
 
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When you get a chance to see the UBI video I will be interested to hear your thoughts on how that compares to a negative income tax, as it relates to incentives. TIA
 
Someone that is able but won't work doesn't deserve ANYTHING.

Just work. I don't care what it is. Work 40 hrs a week. And then we can talk about welfare benefits. If you work 40+ hrs a week, show up on time, and do your job well you will never make minimum wage beyond your very first job. Minimum wage is not supposed to maintain you for a long period of time. It's a starting point and it's supposed to suck but you aren't meant to stay there forever.
 
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I would like to earn a supportive income but I am unwilling to work.
This girl has your back

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UBI is interesting if you get rid of all other welfare. Where I worked before we'd have great workers and as soon as they were about to lose their government benefits from making too much money they'd suddenly suck until we'd have to let them go.

I prefer the idea, if you won't work, then you don't eat.
 
I have to laugh at the people who think this guy is legitimate because he went on the Joe Rogan podcast.
I don’t believe he has a legitimate platform, but his idealogy is sound
 
The slogans will be awesome

Hope and Yang!
I'm with Yang!
Make Yang Great Again.
When they go low, we go Yang!
Our best Yang yet. (ironically that went from a Johnson to a Yang)
Walk softly and carry a big Yang!
Everybody Yang Chunn Tonight!
 
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I asked a homeless guy begging for money once if he would come rake the leaves in my yard. I would pay him $30, transport him, and supply the tools. Might take him 2 hours to do the whole thing. It would be enough money to eat for a few days if stingy. He said no. I said bye.
 
I don't understand how in a country where there are 1.14 open jobs for each unemployed person we need to provide a disincentive to work and grow the economic pie. If some day in the future AI takes all the jobs (which I highly doubt) maybe then it is a consideration. But this country needs more workers, not incentives for fewer.
What this country needs is jobs that pay a living wage!! Corporations making record profits for subpar products and people are struggling to break even. I don’t believe this was the American dream.
 
What this country needs is jobs that pay a living wage!! Corporations making record profits for subpar products and people are struggling to break even. I don’t believe this was the American dream.

I ordered my fast food from a kiosk in TN earlier this week...this is the result of people thinking a cashier at a fast food restaurant deserves $15 an hour.

Sorry but entry level, non-skilled jobs don’t deserve $31,200 a year for 40 hours
 
Someone that is able but won't work doesn't deserve ANYTHING.

Just work. I don't care what it is. Work 40 hrs a week. And then we can talk about welfare benefits. If you work 40+ hrs a week, show up on time, and do your job well you will never make minimum wage beyond your very first job. Minimum wage is not supposed to maintain you for a long period of time. It's a starting point and it's supposed to suck but you aren't meant to stay there forever.

The bolded is entirely divorced from reality.
 
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Man, she really has yall triggered huh. Not many threads go by without a mention or picture of her.
If you mean being a complete imbecile and spouting out garbage then yes, I'm triggered.

Love the fact that she actually thinks the earth is going to end in 12years if we don't get rid of 260mil cars on the road.
 
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@CU1TruTiger4Life what are your thoughts on abortion.

I think as long as the birth certificate hasnt been signed, it is ok. I mean, what if it comes out and you change your mind or there is something wrong with it?

You should stick to talking about socks and sandals; your troll game is pretty weak.
 
What this country needs is jobs that pay a living wage!! Corporations making record profits for subpar products and people are struggling to break even. I don’t believe this was the American dream.

There are plenty of jobs with a living wage available. The problem in this country is a skills gap, not availability of good, high paying jobs. And paying people $1,000/mo for just breathing is not doing anything to improve that issue, it will only widen the skills gap as lower skilled people will have even less incentive to look for new jobs in new industries.

As mentioned in the Josh Belk thread, new drivers for Walmart make $86k. There are trucking shortages all over this country and I would certainly consider that a "living wage". The problem with people who argue that narrative are generally the people who are to lazy to do what those jobs require.
 
I asked a homeless guy begging for money once if he would come rake the leaves in my yard. I would pay him $30, transport him, and supply the tools. Might take him 2 hours to do the whole thing. It would be enough money to eat for a few days if stingy. He said no. I said bye.

Used to do this too when we needed general labor on a job site working construction. The opportunity paid more than $30, was cash, and we would throw in lunch (granted, it was more work than 2 hours and harder than raking leaves). You would be shocked how often people would say "no" to the offer.
 
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Kind of a broad ethical question for everyone.

Do you believe if someone works for 40 hours a week, they should be able to support themselves and one other person? That through some combination of salary and government benefits, they should be able to afford a modest housing, food, clothing, etc? (I said one person + one person but you could think of it as 2 people working 40 hours a week each supporting two children, if you prefer).
 
There are plenty of jobs with a living wage available. The problem in this country is a skills gap, not availability of good, high paying jobs. And paying people $1,000/mo for just breathing is not doing anything to improve that issue, it will only widen the skills gap as lower skilled people will have even less incentive to look for new jobs in new industries.

As mentioned in the Josh Belk thread, new drivers for Walmart make $86k. There are trucking shortages all over this country and I would certainly consider that a "living wage". The problem with people who argue that narrative are generally the people who are to lazy to do what those jobs require.

I'm not disagreeing with the your overall argument, but I think it's interesting that you cited a job that's going to be among the first that's lost to automation.
 
The bolded is entirely divorced from reality.

I'm not sure if you work in the real economy or not, but I can't hire people at minimum wage. All of our jobs which range from auto, agriculture, finance, etc. start at a minimum of $10-$12/hr and if you just do what is asked it will go up. I have never been able to hire people at minimum wage who are worth a damn.
 
I'm not disagreeing with the your overall argument, but I think it's interesting that you cited a job that's going to be among the first that's lost to automation.

How soon till long haul truck drivers are automated? There are so many infrastructure and regulatory hurdles that have to be addressed I can not see that happening in the near term. Will it happen in isolated pre-defined local routes? Maybe, but it is a long way out. I said earlier in this thread that UBI will makes sense if jobs are automated and the total stock of available jobs is reduced. But that is the opposite of what the current situation is.
 
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