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Urban Meyer says “no chance” of college football in the spring
By: Griffin Strom - BuckeyeGrove.com

With the Ivy League’s decision to postpone its fall sports until at least January on Wednesday, further discussion around the logistics of a spring college football season has come to light.

If you ask former Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer, though, it’s no option at all.

“You talk about student-athlete welfare – no chance. You’re not doing that,” Meyer said on FOX’s Big Noon Kickoff: The Offseason show Wednesday.

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Meyer’s concerns are centered around the quick turnaround that players would have to endure to transition from a season in the spring before trying to put the college football schedule back on track with a fall season just a few months later.

“When you play 2,000 competitive reps, your body is not ready for contact in three months or two months. It’s not,” Meyer said. “I would not put those players in harm’s way.”

Meyer said many of the sport’s star players would likely choose not to participate in a spring season in order to prepare for a future in the NFL.

“If I’m Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields or [Chris] Olave, some of these high, high draft picks, I’m not playing,” Meyer said. “I’m getting to go make some money and go earn a living and support my family.”

But Meyer isn't out on a limb with his thoughts on the subject.

On the same panel, FOX analysts and former collegiate football players Joel Klatt, Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart each raised concerns of their own.

“I think going to the spring is an absolutely terrible idea. I think it’s atrocious, and I think the leagues that do it are setting themselves up for real failure and player safety issues in the fall of 2021,” Klatt said.

Bush and Leinart, who each won a Heisman Trophy during their time together at USC in the 2000s, both said that players would need more time to recover than a spring season would allot.

Leinart said that because coaches and teams will do anything to play, that a spring season may end up being a last resort, but said that doesn’t mean it will avoid many legitimate trepidations.

No immediate follow up from the Power Five football conferences has been leveled since the Ivy League announced its decision Wednesday, but the starting dates for mandatory preseason workouts ahead of fall camp are quickly approaching.

On Monday, NJ.com reported that new Rutgers president Jonathan Holloway expects the Big Ten to make a decision on the coming football season within two weeks.

Ohio State halted all voluntary workouts taking place on campus Wednesday after receiving its latest COVID-19 testing results for student-athletes, although figures regarding positive tests were not made public.
 
What exactly are we considering when we say “student-athlete welfare” since the death rate for that demographic is minuscule?

It's in the article. Nothing to do with Covid.

Meyer’s concerns are centered around the quick turnaround that players would have to endure to transition from a season in the spring before trying to put the college football schedule back on track with a fall season just a few months later.
 
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Wow! I’ll say this if nothing else The Who’s who and where they stand is all out in the open. If one thing has happened for sure there’s no wondering about anything anyone believes any longer
 
Ohio st not disclosing the number of positive cases.

So why did Clemson disclose their number publicly?
 
What works?
Hydrochloriquin
Z-Pack
Asthma treatment with inhaled steroid through breathing machine and antibiotics for underlying pneumonia.

Just to name a few. And no they haven’t gone through all the clinical trials and red tape, but have proven they work so what do we have to lose?
 
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Hydrochloriquin
Z-Pack
Asthma treatment with inhaled steroid through breathing machine and antibiotics for underlying pneumonia.

Just to name a few. And no they haven’t gone through all the clinical trials and red tape, but have proven they work so what do we have to lose?
Love a good Z pack.
 
Yep and we already have ways to stop it but won’t use them because Fauci and the CDC said they don’t work

Ok, so there's a cure and or ways to treat COVID. You are saying that Fauci and the CDC, whose job it is to know about this stuff literally won't use them? REALLY? Why would they do that? Asking for a friend
 
Ok, so there's a cure and or ways to treat COVID. You are saying that Fauci and the CDC, whose job it is to know about this stuff literally won't use them? REALLY? Why would they do that? Asking for a friend
Do you really need me to answer that for you? I can do it in one word MONEY
 
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Hydrochloriquin
Z-Pack
Asthma treatment with inhaled steroid through breathing machine and antibiotics for underlying pneumonia.

Just to name a few. And no they haven’t gone through all the clinical trials and red tape, but have proven they work so what do we have to lose?

Aren't the clinical trials and the red tape that you mention the actual part where these treatment "prove" they work. Show me the articles in the Lancet, NEJM, or the JAMA where these methods are proven.
 
Ok, so there's a cure and or ways to treat COVID. You are saying that Fauci and the CDC, whose job it is to know about this stuff literally won't use them? REALLY? Why would they do that? Asking for a friend
Order out of chaos. Create the problem and then present a solution. The solution doesn’t have to be real or work, it only has to give the perception that it will. If fear is the driving factor people will take it due to reacting emotionally rather that with reason and logic. The solution then comes with a mountain of money attached to it that goes right into their pockets. Old trick that shouldn’t work today but unfortunately still does
 
Aren't the clinical trials and the red tape that you mention the actual part where these treatment "prove" they work. Show me the articles in the Lancet, NEJM, or the JAMA where these methods are proven.
They’re not there and I’ve already said that. Doctors all over the world are saying the treatments I mentioned have and are working. So in this situation what do we have to lose? The drugs mentioned will not kill you. So why not try unless there’s no money to be made from it.
 
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Or maybe you don’t understand?

I understand. You are against a "cancel culture" where people advocate to eliminate, boycott, and/or fire entities or people that they disagree with. Here are plenty of examples:


August 2012: Trump says Black journalist Touré, then a co-host of the MSNBC show "The Cycle," should be "forced to resign" for comments in which Touré uttered a variant of the N-word while arguing that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney was using racially coded language to try to make President Barack Obama seem frightening. (Touré had apologized before Trump's demand.)

November 2012: Trump suggests the firing of then-MSNBC host Chris Matthews for saying, on the night of Obama's victory, that he was "so glad" Hurricane Sandy had occurred, because of its political impact. (Matthews had apologized before Trump's suggestion.)

December 2012: Trump calls for the firing of Vanity Fair magazine Editor Graydon Carter, with whom he had feuded for years, over what he declares the magazine's "worst ever issue."

December 2012: Trump says "Scots should boycott Glenfiddich garbage" because the whisky brand selected Michael Forbes, a farmer who refused to sell his land to make way for a Trump golf course, as "Top Scot" of the year.

March 2013: Trump says, "Everyone should cancel HBO until they fire low life dummy Bill Maher! Get going now and feel good about yourself!"

July 2013: Trump asks people to "boycott & cancel subscriptions" to Rolling Stone magazine because of a cover featuring Boston Marathon terrorist Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

October 2013: Trump urges "everybody possible" to "cancel their subscription" to New York Magazine over an insulting tweet about Trump's marriage from Dan Amira, who was online editor at the time.

March 2014: After Trump is left off a CNBC list of the most influential business leaders, he says, "Stupid poll should be canceled—no credibility."

June 2014: Trump says people should "Boycott Mexico" until a Marine reservist who was jailed for crossing the border with loaded guns is released from prison. (He was released later in the year.)

April 2015: Trump suggests that conservative writer Jonah Goldberg, then a senior editor of National Review magazine, should be forced to resign for writing that Trump had been "tweeting like a 14-year-old girl" in response to another conservative writer calling Trump a clown. Trump also suggests Fox News anchor Bret Baier should stop having Goldberg on his show.

June 2015: When Spanish-language television network Univision severed its business relationship with Trump after his campaign launch speech, in which he labeled Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists, Trump tweets, "Anyone who wants strong borders and good trade deals for the US should boycott @Univision."

July 2015: Trump calls for a boycott of Macy's after Macy's discontinued its business dealings with him over those same comments about people from Mexico. Trump also tweets "Great" when someone tells him that people are canceling their Macy's credit cards.

August 2015: Trump calls for the firing of the late conservative writer and Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer, a regular Trump critic.

September 2015: After National Review editor Rich Lowry argued on Fox News that rival Republican candidate Carly Fiorina had "cut off (Trump's) balls with the precision of a surgeon" in a primary debate, Trump says: "Incompetent @RichLowry lost it tonight on @FoxNews. He should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him!" (Lowry responds, "I love how Mr. Anti-PC now wants the FCC to fine me. #pathetic.")

December 2015: Trump calls for the firing of then-CBS News journalist Sopan Deb and NBC/MSNBC journalist Katy Tur over reporting he disputed about how he handled protesters during a rally speech.

February 2016: Trump says people should "boycott all Apple products" until the company stops fighting a government request to break into the cell phone of a deceased California terrorist.

February 2016: Trump says Fox News should fire Republican strategist and commentator Karl Rove for being insufficiently positive about his victory in the Nevada caucuses.

February 2016: Trump calls on the Wall Street Journal to fire its editorial board, which had criticized him, and its pollster, which showed results he didn't like.

March 2016: Trump proposes a boycott of Megyn Kelly's Fox News show, complaining that it is too negative toward him.

September 2016: After the Dallas Morning News and Arizona Republic newspapers endorse Hillary Clinton for president and USA Today declares Trump unfit for the office, Trump says, "The people are really smart in cancelling subscriptions to the Dallas & Arizona papers & now USA Today will lose readers! The people get it!"

September 2017: Trump tweets that NFL players and other athletes who don't stand for the National Anthem should be told, "YOU'RE FIRED." He says in another tweet, "Fire or suspend!" And at a rally, he says, "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out, he's fired, he's fired.' "

October 2017: Suggesting he could use the power of the state against media entities he dislikes, Trump muses about challenging the broadcast licenses of NBC and other networks over their news coverage. (He again broached the subject of reviewing NBC's license in September 2018.)

November 2017: Trump calls for a boycott of CNN.

August 2018: Trump tweets, "Many @harleydavidson owners plan to boycott the company if manufacturing moves overseas. Great! Most other companies are coming in our direction, including Harley competitors."

June 2019: Trump suggests people stop "using or subscribing" to AT&T to pressure the company to make changes at CNN, which it owns.

September 2019: Trump suggests that actress Debra Messing should be fired for calling on a news outlet to publish the names of people attending a Trump fundraiser and for a tweet promoting a church sign that said "a black vote for Trump is mental illness." (Messing had apologized for the tweet about the church sign.)

January 2020: Trump says The New York Times should fire columnist Paul Krugman, a winner of the Nobel Prize in economics, for having incorrectly predicted a global recession after Trump's victory in 2016.

May 2020: The day after Twitter appended a fact check link to dishonest Trump claims about mail-in voting, Trump threatens to shut down social media companies: "Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen."

May 2020: Trump seeks the firing of Chuck Todd, host of NBC's "Meet the Press," for the show playing a misleadingly shortened clip of comments by Attorney General William Barr. (Todd apologized, saying it was an inadvertent mistake.) Again broaching the power of the state, Trump tags the accounts of the Federal Communications Commission, which regulates television, and its chairman, Ajit Pai.
 
Do you really need me to answer that for you? I can do it in one word MONEY

So a whole government agency and Fauci.. who has decades of service to the country are getting paid to hide the real cure? That Fauci and hundreds of people in the CDC are taking cash to let tens of thousands of their fellow Americans die? Do you have anything resembling proof of that? Because most folks would consider that a pretty bold accusation to make against people that have good records for their entire lives.
 
I understand. You are against a "cancel culture" where people advocate to eliminate, boycott, and/or fire entities or people that they disagree with. Here are plenty of examples:


August 2012: Trump says Black journalist Touré, then a co-host of the MSNBC show "The Cycle," should be "forced to resign" for comments in which Touré uttered a variant of the N-word while arguing that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney was using racially coded language to try to make President Barack Obama seem frightening. (Touré had apologized before Trump's demand.)

November 2012: Trump suggests the firing of then-MSNBC host Chris Matthews for saying, on the night of Obama's victory, that he was "so glad" Hurricane Sandy had occurred, because of its political impact. (Matthews had apologized before Trump's suggestion.)

December 2012: Trump calls for the firing of Vanity Fair magazine Editor Graydon Carter, with whom he had feuded for years, over what he declares the magazine's "worst ever issue."

December 2012: Trump says "Scots should boycott Glenfiddich garbage" because the whisky brand selected Michael Forbes, a farmer who refused to sell his land to make way for a Trump golf course, as "Top Scot" of the year.

March 2013: Trump says, "Everyone should cancel HBO until they fire low life dummy Bill Maher! Get going now and feel good about yourself!"

July 2013: Trump asks people to "boycott & cancel subscriptions" to Rolling Stone magazine because of a cover featuring Boston Marathon terrorist Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

October 2013: Trump urges "everybody possible" to "cancel their subscription" to New York Magazine over an insulting tweet about Trump's marriage from Dan Amira, who was online editor at the time.

March 2014: After Trump is left off a CNBC list of the most influential business leaders, he says, "Stupid poll should be canceled—no credibility."

June 2014: Trump says people should "Boycott Mexico" until a Marine reservist who was jailed for crossing the border with loaded guns is released from prison. (He was released later in the year.)

April 2015: Trump suggests that conservative writer Jonah Goldberg, then a senior editor of National Review magazine, should be forced to resign for writing that Trump had been "tweeting like a 14-year-old girl" in response to another conservative writer calling Trump a clown. Trump also suggests Fox News anchor Bret Baier should stop having Goldberg on his show.

June 2015: When Spanish-language television network Univision severed its business relationship with Trump after his campaign launch speech, in which he labeled Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists, Trump tweets, "Anyone who wants strong borders and good trade deals for the US should boycott @Univision."

July 2015: Trump calls for a boycott of Macy's after Macy's discontinued its business dealings with him over those same comments about people from Mexico. Trump also tweets "Great" when someone tells him that people are canceling their Macy's credit cards.

August 2015: Trump calls for the firing of the late conservative writer and Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer, a regular Trump critic.

September 2015: After National Review editor Rich Lowry argued on Fox News that rival Republican candidate Carly Fiorina had "cut off (Trump's) balls with the precision of a surgeon" in a primary debate, Trump says: "Incompetent @RichLowry lost it tonight on @FoxNews. He should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him!" (Lowry responds, "I love how Mr. Anti-PC now wants the FCC to fine me. #pathetic.")

December 2015: Trump calls for the firing of then-CBS News journalist Sopan Deb and NBC/MSNBC journalist Katy Tur over reporting he disputed about how he handled protesters during a rally speech.

February 2016: Trump says people should "boycott all Apple products" until the company stops fighting a government request to break into the cell phone of a deceased California terrorist.

February 2016: Trump says Fox News should fire Republican strategist and commentator Karl Rove for being insufficiently positive about his victory in the Nevada caucuses.

February 2016: Trump calls on the Wall Street Journal to fire its editorial board, which had criticized him, and its pollster, which showed results he didn't like.

March 2016: Trump proposes a boycott of Megyn Kelly's Fox News show, complaining that it is too negative toward him.

September 2016: After the Dallas Morning News and Arizona Republic newspapers endorse Hillary Clinton for president and USA Today declares Trump unfit for the office, Trump says, "The people are really smart in cancelling subscriptions to the Dallas & Arizona papers & now USA Today will lose readers! The people get it!"

September 2017: Trump tweets that NFL players and other athletes who don't stand for the National Anthem should be told, "YOU'RE FIRED." He says in another tweet, "Fire or suspend!" And at a rally, he says, "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out, he's fired, he's fired.' "

October 2017: Suggesting he could use the power of the state against media entities he dislikes, Trump muses about challenging the broadcast licenses of NBC and other networks over their news coverage. (He again broached the subject of reviewing NBC's license in September 2018.)

November 2017: Trump calls for a boycott of CNN.

August 2018: Trump tweets, "Many @harleydavidson owners plan to boycott the company if manufacturing moves overseas. Great! Most other companies are coming in our direction, including Harley competitors."

June 2019: Trump suggests people stop "using or subscribing" to AT&T to pressure the company to make changes at CNN, which it owns.

September 2019: Trump suggests that actress Debra Messing should be fired for calling on a news outlet to publish the names of people attending a Trump fundraiser and for a tweet promoting a church sign that said "a black vote for Trump is mental illness." (Messing had apologized for the tweet about the church sign.)

January 2020: Trump says The New York Times should fire columnist Paul Krugman, a winner of the Nobel Prize in economics, for having incorrectly predicted a global recession after Trump's victory in 2016.

May 2020: The day after Twitter appended a fact check link to dishonest Trump claims about mail-in voting, Trump threatens to shut down social media companies: "Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen."

May 2020: Trump seeks the firing of Chuck Todd, host of NBC's "Meet the Press," for the show playing a misleadingly shortened clip of comments by Attorney General William Barr. (Todd apologized, saying it was an inadvertent mistake.) Again broaching the power of the state, Trump tags the accounts of the Federal Communications Commission, which regulates television, and its chairman, Ajit Pai.
Cliffs?
 
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They’re not there and I’ve already said that. Doctors all over the world are saying the treatments I mentioned have and are working. So in this situation what do we have to lose? The drugs mentioned will not kill you. So why not try unless there’s no money to be made from it.

That's not the same as proof. That's antidotal evidence. Just like estrogen treatments for women in their 50s was supposed to help prevent depression and reduce the risks of heart attacks, and strokes. Until the long term studies showed that it gave you cancer...
 
So a whole government agency and Fauci.. who has decades of service to the country are getting paid to hide the real cure? That Fauci and hundreds of people in the CDC are taking cash to let tens of thousands of their fellow Americans die? Do you have anything resembling proof of that? Because most folks would consider that a pretty bold accusation to make against people that have good records for their entire lives.
I certainly do. And it doesn’t take hundreds of people, just a few at the top. And even worse the cdc and Fauci helped China pull this off. But don’t worry. They will pay for this. One way or another
 
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