US scientists make major breakthrough in ‘limitless, zero-carbon’ fusion energy
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Thanks for posting this... I searched before I posted this morning... huge if true.
Granted the tech for harnessing this type of energy and applying it to a power grid is still way off, but wow.
Fusion energy.
Hello Mr Fusion!
Granted the tech for harnessing this type of energy and applying it to a power grid is still way off, but wow.
Fusion energy.
Hello Mr Fusion!
Agree. Very important for the future of the world to come up with new types of energy.Thanks for posting this... I searched before I posted this morning... huge if true.
Granted the tech for harnessing this type of energy and applying it to a power grid is still way off, but wow.
Fusion energy.
Hello Mr Fusion!
When at Clemson in 1973 Our class did a report on energy and I choice was nuclear for the grid with hydogen for combustion engines with high hopes to moroh into fusion reactors in like 100 years
its possible but not if we race toward battery powered cars which i think is Ok but the wrong eventual outcome
its possible but not if we race toward battery powered cars which i think is Ok but the wrong eventual outcome
hopefully all engineers and scientists associated with this work is receiving around the clock security. Cant have them "suiciding" themselves.
Would be great to tell the middle east countries that hate us to F* off
Would be great to tell the middle east countries that hate us to F* off
The Holy Grail of energy production. Cheap and abundant energy with zero emissions. This could be world changing at all levels.
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how deep is your hate for electric cars?
fyi, they're not mutually exclusive discoveries.
Actually I favor allowing FREE market to determine the winner
Presently I am trying to get a battery of Level 3 Chargers installed on some travel drops in towns off the interstates
Working with Federal and State Energy Departments
The electric car has merit but I will point you to when given a choice golf courses usually pick gasoline powered over battery powered particularly on courses that are not flat due to power to weight ratios required as gas or propane powered as far superior in performance to electrics
My own personal golf cart is gasoline
That being said I think if we could develop the next generation of batteries that are ultra light
then electric would really be hard to beat
For now gas beats electric all day on cost and performance
Like solar power from the sun
if we only used sun power I can assure you we would be a third world country in the stone age
I would put you to sleep and bore you to death but solar is about 2% of US supply now and would require a massive amount of land to support the US grid
Nuclear is the long term answer morphing into breeders snd eventually fusion
Just consider a nuclear powered sub and how large a power it provides
I am also involved with MNR or Modular Nuclear Reactors which like the difference between building a stick built house versus a prefab house.
MNR is more like a factory built unit that you then put together on site
But back to the electric car
Like it but it is not going to be the winner if hydrogen gets some more funding and development
I like the hydrogen based combustion engine because lighter and more powerful
Mercedes and BMW had models for many years
I can go on a while but the original development for hydrogen powered involved combustion
There is a world of research on fuel cell use
I will not waste my time on cut and paste but suggest you just google hydrogen powered cars
And hydrogen powered fuel cells
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What happened to hydrogen powered full cells in cars? Wasn’t that a thing a decade or so ago?
The Federal government at the top levels as they always do has had the electric battery powered lobbyist buying lots of lunches and been playing lots of golf along with sponsoring lots of seminars in the Bahamas along with lots of pet projects such as the Obama Solyndra
Nothing wrong with wasting other peoples money
Gas beats electric on cost and power? Shockingly wrong. Amazingly really.
Do you actually live your life based on what works best in a golf cart?
You think otherwise? Tell you what. You get in a electric car and I'll get in my truck. Let's see who makes it from DC to LA first and how much it costs each of us.
Right, base your life on a fringe use case. Shocking stupidity even for you. Almost everyone drives <200 miles a day, meaning no gas stations ever. Except for all the times I’m feeling poor enough to drive across the country.
Also, you can actually calculate $/gallon to $/kwh. It’s simple math. I’ll let you figure out how that works out. (It’s not favorable for gas anywhere in the US)
soooooo Im procrastinating before I finish up some work here at the end of the day, sooooooo I decided to take a look.
Assumptions:
- DC city central to Los Angeles city central
- Trip planning was done on Google Maps and Tesla Go Anywhere trip planner
- One way distance 2669 miles
- For Gas powered truck assumed the base model Ford F150
- For battery powered assumed Tesla Model 3
- For gas, used Google maps and selected the most optimum route
- For battery, only considered Tesla presented route (limited due to charging stations)
- Assuming all base costs are equal (food and accommodations), but need to put a * here
- No assumptions made for traffic or environmental events
The average gas mileage for a F150 is 21mpg. The gas tank holds 23 gallons; therefore the max range of one fill up is 483 Miles. This means that the driver would have to at least fill up 5.5 times. National average for a gallon of gas is $3.21 which equals $73.83 per fill up, total cost of $406.
Total drive time 39 hours
For the Telsa, you cant really base # of stops on distance as you are limited by infrastructure. Based on Telsa's trip planner the driver will need to stop 17 times to get from DC to LA. You cant really remove any stops, because again, youre limited by infrastructure (you skip a stop, you run out of battery along the way). Cost has to be considered different as well, as costs are calculated on mileage not gallons. Per Tesla's website the average cost to charge a Telsa 3 is $0.0456 per mile, so total cost of the trip will be $160.14.
Total drive time 49 hours 21 mins (this is inclusive of required charging time)
Soooooooo youre looking at a saving of $245.86 by having the Tesla on this trip.
Now for the *, with the Tesla its going to take you nearly 10 and a half hours longer. That means extra unknown costs for meals .... maybe another night in a hotel???? Even if you add required "fill up" time to the Truck???? its not going to equal 10+ hours. So another night in a Hampton Inn @ $99 (cheap rate) and another meal ????? $20 .... Is 10+ hours of your time really only worth $126????
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Competition.
www.smithsonianmag.com
China's Artificial Sun Just Broke a Record for Longest Sustained Nuclear Fusion
Superheated plasma reached 126 million degrees Fahrenheit for 17 minutes
Dollar to a doughnut says any and all tech the Chinese have in the pursuit of fusion was/is stolen.Competition.
China's Artificial Sun Just Broke a Record for Longest Sustained Nuclear Fusion
Superheated plasma reached 126 million degrees Fahrenheit for 17 minutes
The Chinese nothing but thieves and liars. F* China!
Deflect, deflect, deflect
I can calculate that. Can you do the math on hotel stays and per diem and wasted time calculations?
Can you do the math on how much it will cost to dispose of the batteries at end of life?
what am i deflecting? hotel stays? what are you talking about? your use case is about .1% of miles driven by passenger cars. based on real life it costs more to drive on gas. time wasted? try never going to a gas station again. talk about time wasted.
your hero elon has a battery recycling program to recover the metal in the battery
