This was my stance until I realized that they are affecting everyone else’s quality of care in hospitals that are there for everything else
Virtual school again
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The real questions are:
- what are their ages
- what is their BMI?
- do they have pre-existing conditions?
- are they smokers?
If we don’t know those answers then no one can tell others what they should/shouldn’t do
When does the long term effect of Virtual school outweigh the sickness and death of people who choose to not be vaccinated? Beyond education gap, how about loss of income because a parent can't go to work? How about mental health?
Unfortunately, hospitals are not allowed to turn you away because of your bad choices (smokers that get COPD and lung cancer, bad diets and lifestyles that lead to heart attacks, alcohol abuse that leads to liver failure, etc. etc) those that choose to remain unvaccinated and then get COVID) How do you protect healthcare workers from other's lack of personal responsibility, especially when taking care of you may kill me?
Last week in my local hospital 14 ICU units were taken by Covid patients. 13 were unvaccinated and 1 was. The 1 had previous medical problems. BTW, there are 30 units. Problem is people with Covid takes units from others, but I don't think we can fix stupid or protect those from their ignorance.
See the Data on Breakthrough Covid Hospitalizations and Deaths by State (Published 2021)
Coronavirus cases that send vaccinated people to the hospital or cause death have been relatively rare, a New York Times analysis of state data shows.
This shit again? Still waiting over here to be taken to the guillotine. Also still waiting for a time frame for this.
How does taking care of a sick covid patient kill health care workers? According to "the science", the vax protects them. Right?
This. Imo, we're already there. Get vax'd or if you're healthy take your chances. I dont gaf but its time to move on. After Delta variant, will be Omega, Beta, variant etc. The MSM will be naming every variant like the Jack offs at the weather channel naming every weather event imaginable. Winter storm Hazel lol
No one believes that. If Trump was re-elected Kamala would still be telling everyone not to get it and you would be right behind her.
Agreed, my wife told me she had a guy that was overweight and had stage 3 lung cancer. He admitted to not doing any exercise and was literally asking his wife for a cigarette while in the hospital bed.
She has these types of patients all the time and has for over 25 years. Glad Dr Gottlieb said we were in the last wave of this and we should be done soon. I believe that’s something we can ALL agree on.
You won’t have to wait much longer!
Care to narrow that window down with some specifics,or just keep saying vague shit that never actually happens., Then respond by saying,"Soon"
Therapeutic plasma is pretty new, same Doctors prescribing the vax are the ones prescribing and caring for patients in the hospitals.
We're all hoping you won't have to wait much longer.
Thanks for sharing. Seems like this tracks pretty closely to most of the recent numbers provided by local hospitals.See the Data on Breakthrough Covid Hospitalizations and Deaths by State (Published 2021)
Coronavirus cases that send vaccinated people to the hospital or cause death have been relatively rare, a New York Times analysis of state data shows.www.nytimes.com
That doesn’t make @OleFastball wrong though. Think about it. It’s all political bullshit. I don’t even care anymore.
Has anyone done a deep dive on Ivermectin? I believe it works and could stop Covid (if we don’t keep delaying and make it readily available). I know a lot of folks discredit Joe Rogan but he has some legit guest. He had an “emergency “ podcast (about 2.5 hours) about a month ago with a Doctor and evolutionary biologist about how effective Ivermectin is. They’ve been censored on YouTube . It is both a prophylactic and therapeutic. Check it out.
Actually, 70% of people ages 18 and over in this country is vaccinated. The 50% mark comes from anybody that is eligible to be vaccinated, including the under 18 group.
As someone with intimately close relationships with several doctors, they're brainwashed. They're trained to take the word of the authorities on the subject. Unfortunately, the authorities on the subject of covid are politicians and a computer nerd, all of whom don't know dick about healthcare.
Why are many of the countries with the highest vaccination rates having massive outbreaks? Serious question
Not sure what I did to you, but I generally.am.prwtty level and fair with everyone.
I work in healthcare and work with quite a few doctors and I this isn't true at all of the Doctors that I know.
A lot of the treatments for COVID patients in the hospitals are just as new as the vaccine. It’s also an absolute fallacy to suggest the science behind mRNA vaccines is months old.
I think we're going to need a second opinion from someone who doesn't lean to the far left.
That's like a cult member saying, "no, I'm not in a cult". You work in healthcare, you're just as brainwashed as the others.
I'm going to boil it down for you, to it's most basic elements. This coronavirus is here to stay, period. It cannot and will not be stopped. The flu vaccine hasn't gotten rid of the flu, and there are no vaccines or cures for the common cold. Unfortunately, the Chinese flu is a tad bit more dangerous than the flu, but just a little bit. It's nothing to fear, it's an illness like any other. It's not Ebola which has like a 99% mortality rate. You, and a whole lot of other people, are overreacting.
Turn off the TV, log out of facebook, and just live your life. The vast majority of people who have died during the pandemic, died with covid, not from covid, meaning they would have been dead soon anyway, unless they made some drastic changes to their lifestyle. Of course there are exceptions, but those are exceptions. Those are few and far between.
You live your life, and let other people live their life. Don't be a dick and try to tell other people what they have to do.
As I recall, he's posted several times that he manages an eye dr's office.
Point being, I'm not really sure how his comments about his experience with eye drs are relevant to the Covid discussion, but perhaps I'm missing something.
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Here is what I dont get, someone doesnt trust a vaccine that has been given to hundreds of millions of people with almost no serious side effects and proven to be highly effective at keeping people out of the hospital, a vaccine that has been taken by over 96% of doctors. However, you do think it may be worth looking into ivermectin because Joe Rogan had a podcast and had some doctor on. What the hell?
My brother had a man come in the pharmacy today and tell him the vaccines were poison and causing the variants. My brother explained to him the Delta variant originated in India, half way around the world in an area that had no access to our vaccines in the U.S. at the time. He wouldnt believe it. What do you think he was in there spending $100 to buy? Ivermectin.
People have gone insane.
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The vaccine is HIGHLY effective at preventing hospitalization and death.
The vaccine is effective, but less fool proof, at preventing infection. These are breakthrough cases. People get sick and it can be from completely asymptomatic to feeling like you have the flu for a couple of days.
Main point is they rarely require hospitalization - unless you have some underlying issues. Even rarer you die.
There are many doctors who believe in Ivermectin and just how affective it is. It’s safe and cheap and been around since the 1960’s. It’s not just one doctor numbnuts. There is no money to be made on it.
We still don’t know the long term effects. It’s not just one doctor it’s hundreds across the the US and the world. Ivermectin is cheap, affordable, and highly effective Especially if given early. I believe the doctors who swear it is effective against Covid. Why would they lie? But there is no money or profit to be made from it so it wouldn’t be good for your big brothers pharmacy business lol.
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That doesn’t answer my question. The countries with much much lower vaccination rates are not having near the breakouts that the most highly vaccinated countries are. Why is that?
Which specific countries are you talking about? Just speculating but it could be because they have crappy health care systems and aren't testing either.
A country with virtually no testing has virtually no cases.
There are doctors all over the world who have had great success with ivermectin. Seriously go listen to the podcast and don’t just write it off because it was on Joe Rogan. This is a Doctor Who has successfully treated thousands of Covid patients. But specifically there are doctors in Argentina and Mexico who experimented with it and had great success with it. At one point Mexico used it when the hospitals were getting overrun and the hospitals emptied at that point. There are numerous studies on how effective ivermectin can be against Covid but they are are getting pulled off the Internet and YouTube. This is the first time in our great country‘s history that there is such censorship. It’s ludicrous. But folks say that I am insane? They choose to believe the world health organization who is flipped flopped countless times. They believe Fauci who has denied gain of function research And is a fraud. You truest hr CDC? The same organizations that denied that this virus came from a lab in China? About eight months ago anyone who claimed that the virus was man-made and came from a lab in China was a conspiracy theorist. How about now? People need to wake up and think for themselves.
Just look at Israel and European countries. They are some of the most vaccinated countries and are having terrible outbreaks.
I hope you are kidding about Israel. Israel is Example #1 the vaccine works at preventing hospitalization and death! Israel is taking the Pfizer vaccine and they have agreed to report their data.
The facts are clear.
Israel has a population of over 9 million.
Israel has had 6,600 deaths.
Israel has a full vaccination rate of like 60%
South Carolina population of 5 million, about 1/2 of Israel.
South Carolina has had over 10,000 deaths.
South Carolina has a full vaccination rate of like 50%.
The vaccine works at preventing hospitalization and death.
