I dislike BLM movement, but they are 100% correct on this issue.
Weak Kamala And Democrats Are Allowing An Incompetent Boob to Run the White House For 5 More Months.
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It wouldn't have made a difference. A Dem poll taken a few days before Biden dropped out showed 45% wanted Harris and the next closest had 12%. This is who the base wanted and no amount of crying will change that.
If it wouldn’t have mattered, why hide Bidens health problem? Why mislead your party?
Ok.
But Democrats aren’t going to show up to vote for that.
Only 4000 Democrats got to decide who the candidate was.
If you think Kamala would have won an open primary race I think you are CRAZY. She polled horribly and there was even talk from the left of replacing her. She is highly unlikeabke and by all means did a horrible job on things she was assigned to as VP.
And if you are being honest with yourself, there is no way she would have been in your top 3 choices for candidates if you could have chosen.
I've been polled several times. Just answer one of those political junk calls.
you aren't being honest with yourself. just as you guys weren't when Biden won the first time. No Kamala isn't in my top 10, and she never would have won a primary, sure. We are voting against trump man. and we are now much more comfortable doing it with a credible human as the candidate.
You are pissed off that someone spilled some milk in your neighbor's house?!
The game is and always was beating Trump. Now, we have a Black and Indian woman who can rally new voters and excite the base in a way that Joe Biden absolutely could not.
you people are both arguing that joe biden must resign and that he also must run for president.
Theres a post above that asks if we will replace candidates when they are polling badly. lolololololol. of course we will. especially ones we know will lose an important presidential election before they've officially become the party's nominee. this is politics man. Biden was going to lose. You think its just the moral thing to do to let it happen!?!?!?!?
be serious.
You don’t think some portion of Democrats will be turned off by the fact that they were misled? Even you were upset. Some portion of Democrats will hold that grudge and not show up to vote, or hell even vote Trump. Time will tell I suppose.
i dont. you are essentially asking me if there are a bunch of Biden stans in the democratic party. i think everyone knows the answer to that question.
and to the extent that there is any truth to that (which is certainly possible, I'm wrong all the time, ha) the number of people we pull in is much higher.
EDIT: I was upset because they hadn't done this earlier!
I’m assuming you’re referring to my questions?
Let me ask you this, you seem to be pretty educated on the in’s and outs of the election process ( I am not)- Has something like this ever occurred in the history of our primary system? Where the winning candidate has dropped out after the National primaries have taken place?
nope! Its remarkable and, even though it felt inevitable, still pretty unbelievable and surprising.
but your question ignores that Joe Biden is not and never was the official party nominee. that happens at the convention. Just as trump wasn't the official nominee until last week. And we are nominating his VP. Its not like Mark Cuban is now the nominee. We already voted for her, 3 times, knowing that she was one step away from the presidency.
all of this is fine.
this election is about trump. lets see what happens now. ha.
Damn, red hats really can't comprehend they're the only ones trapped in a cult of personality.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. We don't actually vote for a candidate for president. We vote for a group of electors of a specific party who will then in turn cast their own votes for who they want to be president. It's been incredibly streamlined, and our vote in November is a de facto vote for a candidate, but that's the gist of it. A party is totally allowed to make its own rules when it comes to selecting its nominees, which is why different parties in different states have winner-takes-all primaries or awards a portion of the delegates based on the number of votes received, or a combination of both. The DNC recently got rid of most of its guaranteed/protected electors, while the GOP actually increased the number a few years back.
“Moral thing”?? I think the truthful(moral) thing would’ve been to not lie to the American people about the president’s mental and physical state until after the primary election. But it’s politics.
I believe the race is wide open at this point. Long way to go, they both have plenty of time to F it up. Trump seems to be well on his way with some of his comments already.
I do realize Biden hadn’t been officially nominated. (Should’ve said presumed). This is now up to the delegates. Which is probably a pretty lucrative position to have this week in the Democratic Party.
This is my issue. I don’t see any other way to frame it, your vote quite literally did not matter in this primary. I guess just cross your fingers and hope the party makes the right decision this time.
Nobody that was going to vote for Joe will vote for trump, and the vast, vast majority will also vote for kamala- possibly more.
The problem is you can't see that bc many trumpers would have let joe win over another republican bc they were butt hurt he wasn't the nominee even though any republican is better than any dem simply based on the most basic policy differences.
I don't want to hear the "deep state" crap. Not saying this does not exist, but a deep state pub would result in better legislation( even though maybe not ideal) than a deep state dem.
I'm not saying she is going to win, but I would much rather Joe had stayed in the race.
I appreciate the feedback. I actually mentioned to dpic that the dems might as well just have the party delegates nominate their candidate without going through the primaries. I was actually being serious. Replacing them if they weren’t polling well was obviously tongue in cheek
This election is about an abysmal 4 year record of failure by the democratic administration. The American people will keep their eye on the ball. The dems and the deep state establishment have hit Trump with everything and he is still coming.
You were clearly upset they misled you. You made a whole new thread about it. And yes, we all knew they should have done it earlier, but they lied to you instead. The result of that lie is that your vote meant nothing.
The regular everyday democrat HAS NO SAY IN THE direction of the party.
You are very wrong. I know several deep blue democrats who switched from voting Biden to Trump. Joe really was that bad.
Not sure now since they pulled the swap, but I don’t think Kamala will change their mind. It’s the policies they hated, not Joe himself. And I don’t think Kamala is any better policy wise. She is no different than Joe. she will just read the teleprompter. She has no chance.
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Can’t wait for Joes speech tonight!
How is he going to explain to the American people that he is too ill to be president in 5 months, but he is perfectly capable of being president now?
How stupid do Democrats think you are?
Why is Kammy too weak to use the 25th amendment and be straight with the American people? It’s really the easiest decision in the world, we all saw it with our eyes on June 27th.
The Democrats have left the government in disarray. They need to be fired!!
How is he going to explain to the American people that he is too ill to be president in 5 months, but he is perfectly capable of being president now?
How stupid do Democrats think you are?
Why is Kammy too weak to use the 25th amendment and be straight with the American people? It’s really the easiest decision in the world, we all saw it with our eyes on June 27th.
The Democrats have left the government in disarray. They need to be fired!!
Joe continues to shit on his party on the way out the door.
He is just making Kamala look so bad and he is leaving her in a really tough spot by not resigning.
He and his policies are a shit stain on your party.
He is just making Kamala look so bad and he is leaving her in a really tough spot by not resigning.
He and his policies are a shit stain on your party.
