What Republicans and conservatives need to understand

[Willence]

If you read about politics, you've certainly read about the recent surge in polling numbers for Democrats. As Republicans do not typically put much stock into polls, let's be honest about what we're seeing. The surge for the Democrats is real. So what's driving this people may ask? Well, it's a couple of things.

One, the Dobbs decision is absolutely a significant factor here. America is a center country. Sometimes it's center left, sometimes it's center right. On abortion, we're a center left country. The Democrats won the post decision argument because of their power in the media and the message they put forward. As usual, Republicans totally misread the room and went in the wrong direction and lost the thread completely.

Second is candidate quality/Trump. Regardless of what one might think of Trump, this must be acknowledge. Everyone seems to have a very strong opinion about him. His influence in choosing candidates in purple state Senate primaries has been catastrophic for Republicans. It's just one terrible candidate after another when he's involved. Please list for me one candidate he's recruited who has broad appeal?

There's a great interview with Ruy Teixeira in the WSJ this weekend everyone should read. He is one of the preeminent voices in political analysis. He's a man on the left but he knows his stuff much like David Axelrod does. His opinion and views should be considered seriously. Basically, he indicates that while Democrats have some real long-term issues with their current path, they are winning right now because Republicans just don't seem to understand how their toxic relationship with Trump is destroying their prospects. The view on the right is too often that someone who can win like Trump did is somehow endowed with some magical ways that mean their personality is what the party needs to reflect. It's just not true at all. Conservative ideas can win, but not when they are put forward by a person like Trump.

Here's the link to the interview in the WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-th...trump-biden-2020-college-educated-11661477888

Teixeira has a substack too that is a good read. Here's his latest piece about what's going on. I know many on the right like to dismiss these kinds of people but this guy know his stuff. His views should be taken very seriously and very much to heart. Not to mention, his warning for Democrats about becoming the white/elitist party are going completely ignored. If Republicans would ever wake up and start going after all the votes, they would have a great chance at seizing a significant majority. Instead, we keep nominating Trump, Herschel and Dr. Oz.

The Democrats’ Shifting Coalition

Unlike Trump, They Love the Highly Educated

theliberalpatriot.substack.com

 

[nytigerfan]

If you read about politics, you've certainly read about the recent surge in polling numbers for Democrats. As Republicans do not typically put much stock into polls, let's be honest about what we're seeing. The surge for the Democrats is real. So what's driving this people may ask? Well, it's a couple of things.

One, the Dobbs decision is absolutely a significant factor here. America is a center country. Sometimes it's center left, sometimes it's center right. On abortion, we're a center left country. The Democrats won the post decision argument because of their power in the media and the message they put forward. As usual, Republicans totally misread the room and went in the wrong direction and lost the thread completely.

Second is candidate quality/Trump. Regardless of what one might think of Trump, this must be acknowledge. Everyone seems to have a very strong opinion about him. His influence in choosing candidates in purple state Senate primaries has been catastrophic for Republicans. It's just one terrible candidate after another when he's involved. Please list for me one candidate he's recruited who has broad appeal?

There's a great interview with Ruy Teixeira in the WSJ this weekend everyone should read. He is one of the preeminent voices in political analysis. He's a man on the left but he knows his stuff much like David Axelrod does. His opinion and views should be considered seriously. Basically, he indicates that while Democrats have some real long-term issues with their current path, they are winning right now because Republicans just don't seem to understand how their toxic relationship with Trump is destroying their prospects. The view on the right is too often that someone who can win like Trump did is somehow endowed with some magical ways that mean their personality is what the party needs to reflect. It's just not true at all. Conservative ideas can win, but not when they are put forward by a person like Trump.

Here's the link to the interview in the WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-th...trump-biden-2020-college-educated-11661477888

Teixeira has a substack too that is a good read. Here's his latest piece about what's going on. I know many on the right like to dismiss these kinds of people but this guy know his stuff. His views should be taken very seriously and very much to heart. Not to mention, his warning for Democrats about becoming the white/elitist party are going completely ignored. If Republicans would ever wake up and start going after all the votes, they would have a great chance at seizing a significant majority. Instead, we keep nominating Trump, Herschel and Dr. Oz.

The Democrats’ Shifting Coalition

Unlike Trump, They Love the Highly Educated

theliberalpatriot.substack.com

what you have here is very accurate. You will notice there are no replies. That is because in today’s republican party you have to show fealty to Trump at all times.

 

[WapPride]

Grifters stay grifting

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

If you read about politics, you've certainly read about the recent surge in polling numbers for Democrats. As Republicans do not typically put much stock into polls, let's be honest about what we're seeing. The surge for the Democrats is real. So what's driving this people may ask? Well, it's a couple of things.

One, the Dobbs decision is absolutely a significant factor here. America is a center country. Sometimes it's center left, sometimes it's center right. On abortion, we're a center left country. The Democrats won the post decision argument because of their power in the media and the message they put forward. As usual, Republicans totally misread the room and went in the wrong direction and lost the thread completely.

Second is candidate quality/Trump. Regardless of what one might think of Trump, this must be acknowledge. Everyone seems to have a very strong opinion about him. His influence in choosing candidates in purple state Senate primaries has been catastrophic for Republicans. It's just one terrible candidate after another when he's involved. Please list for me one candidate he's recruited who has broad appeal?

There's a great interview with Ruy Teixeira in the WSJ this weekend everyone should read. He is one of the preeminent voices in political analysis. He's a man on the left but he knows his stuff much like David Axelrod does. His opinion and views should be considered seriously. Basically, he indicates that while Democrats have some real long-term issues with their current path, they are winning right now because Republicans just don't seem to understand how their toxic relationship with Trump is destroying their prospects. The view on the right is too often that someone who can win like Trump did is somehow endowed with some magical ways that mean their personality is what the party needs to reflect. It's just not true at all. Conservative ideas can win, but not when they are put forward by a person like Trump.

Here's the link to the interview in the WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-th...trump-biden-2020-college-educated-11661477888

Teixeira has a substack too that is a good read. Here's his latest piece about what's going on. I know many on the right like to dismiss these kinds of people but this guy know his stuff. His views should be taken very seriously and very much to heart. Not to mention, his warning for Democrats about becoming the white/elitist party are going completely ignored. If Republicans would ever wake up and start going after all the votes, they would have a great chance at seizing a significant majority. Instead, we keep nominating Trump, Herschel and Dr. Oz.

The Democrats’ Shifting Coalition

Unlike Trump, They Love the Highly Educated

theliberalpatriot.substack.com

I disagree with the Democrats are surging narrative.

The abortion decision RoeVWade was a legal abomination that has thankfully been aborted

Now let the states decide on their own laws

There’s a huge RED wave coming and don’t let fake news fake you out

That is my take

 

[dpic73]

View embedded media

Grifters stay grifting

 

[scotchtiger]

If you read about politics, you've certainly read about the recent surge in polling numbers for Democrats. As Republicans do not typically put much stock into polls, let's be honest about what we're seeing. The surge for the Democrats is real. So what's driving this people may ask? Well, it's a couple of things.

One, the Dobbs decision is absolutely a significant factor here. America is a center country. Sometimes it's center left, sometimes it's center right. On abortion, we're a center left country. The Democrats won the post decision argument because of their power in the media and the message they put forward. As usual, Republicans totally misread the room and went in the wrong direction and lost the thread completely.

Second is candidate quality/Trump. Regardless of what one might think of Trump, this must be acknowledge. Everyone seems to have a very strong opinion about him. His influence in choosing candidates in purple state Senate primaries has been catastrophic for Republicans. It's just one terrible candidate after another when he's involved. Please list for me one candidate he's recruited who has broad appeal?

There's a great interview with Ruy Teixeira in the WSJ this weekend everyone should read. He is one of the preeminent voices in political analysis. He's a man on the left but he knows his stuff much like David Axelrod does. His opinion and views should be considered seriously. Basically, he indicates that while Democrats have some real long-term issues with their current path, they are winning right now because Republicans just don't seem to understand how their toxic relationship with Trump is destroying their prospects. The view on the right is too often that someone who can win like Trump did is somehow endowed with some magical ways that mean their personality is what the party needs to reflect. It's just not true at all. Conservative ideas can win, but not when they are put forward by a person like Trump.

Here's the link to the interview in the WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-th...trump-biden-2020-college-educated-11661477888

Teixeira has a substack too that is a good read. Here's his latest piece about what's going on. I know many on the right like to dismiss these kinds of people but this guy know his stuff. His views should be taken very seriously and very much to heart. Not to mention, his warning for Democrats about becoming the white/elitist party are going completely ignored. If Republicans would ever wake up and start going after all the votes, they would have a great chance at seizing a significant majority. Instead, we keep nominating Trump, Herschel and Dr. Oz.

The Democrats’ Shifting Coalition

Unlike Trump, They Love the Highly Educated

theliberalpatriot.substack.com

Good post. The dems absolutely suck and their policies are complete dogshit (see $1T student debt handout). But the GOP has totally failed to capitalize by clinging to Trump, conspiracy theories, bad candidates and some hard right social policies.

 

[dpic73]

I disagree with the Democrats are surging narrative.

The abortion decision RoeVWade was a legal abomination that has thankfully been aborted

Now let the states decide on their own laws

There’s a huge RED wave coming and don’t let fake news fake you out

That is my take

What facts do you have to support your disagreement with the narrative? It can't be the polls because they show the narrative to be true.

You say let the states decide for themselves? That's exactly what happened in Kansas and they overwhelmingly voted to stay pro-choice. When it's not dictated by their hard right officials, red states don't approve of overturning Roe either.

The congressional race last week in NY proved the worm is turning and showed that focusing on the Roe decision was a winning message, where the Republican had been up by as much as 10 points.

Democrat Ryan wins bellwether special election for NY House seat

Democrat Pat Ryan is projected to defeat Republican Marc Molinaro in the special election for New York’s 19th Congressional District on Tuesday, giving Democrats a win in a swing distric…

thehill.com

The red wave is now but a drip

 

[nytigerfan]

I disagree with the Democrats are surging narrative.

The abortion decision RoeVWade was a legal abomination that has thankfully been aborted

Now let the states decide on their own laws

There’s a huge RED wave coming and don’t let fake news fake you out

That is my take

If the "fake news" goal is to get the dems to win, then talking about the dems surging is counterproductive. Better to remain quiet and let the reds get a false sense of security. That ways dems will continue to outpace republicans in fund raising.

 

[PawsFan_]

LOL....this thread reminds me of FGF this time of year.

 

[dpic73]

 

[TigerGrowls]

I disagree with the Democrats are surging narrative.

The abortion decision RoeVWade was a legal abomination that has thankfully been aborted

Now let the states decide on their own laws

There’s a huge RED wave coming and don’t let fake news fake you out

That is my take

Agree.

 

[CUT93]

Republicans, particularly Trump supporters, have to come to terms that he can not win. A large portion of suburban women, in particular, are not going to vote for him because he is mean. It is why he lost the last election. Enough republicans and independents that likely would have voted republican did not vote for him bc he is mean- for lack of a better characterization. There is just a segment of the population that lets emotions override everything else whether it is logical or not. Add to this that he is even worse off as a candidate today than he was before the last election, and it makes it even more imperative we need to move on.

It doesn't matter if you like him. It doesn't matter if he might even be the best potus we ever had -not that I believe that. All that matters is that he can not win bc one thing that will not change is that he will continue to offend people and reinforce the "mean" persona. He is probably the only republican candidate that could not beat Biden in an election at this point.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Republicans, particularly Trump supporters, have to come to terms that he can not win. A large portion of suburban women, in particular, are not going to vote for him because he is mean. It is why he lost the last election. Enough republicans and independents that likely would have voted republican did not vote for him bc he is mean- for lack of a better characterization. There is just a segment of the population that lets emotions override everything else whether it is logical or not. Add to this that he is even worse off as a candidate today than he was before the last election, and it makes it even more imperative we need to move on.

It doesn't matter if you like him. It doesn't matter if he might even be the best potus we ever had -not that I believe that. All that matters is that he can not win bc one thing that will not change is that he will continue to offend people and reinforce the "mean" persona. He is probably the only republican candidate that could not beat Biden in an election at this point.

Disagree but Trump hasn't even announced that he is running. Let's focus on the midterms for now.

 

[DW4_2016]

Republicans, particularly Trump supporters, have to come to terms that he can not win. A large portion of suburban women, in particular, are not going to vote for him because he is mean. It is why he lost the last election. Enough republicans and independents that likely would have voted republican did not vote for him bc he is mean- for lack of a better characterization. There is just a segment of the population that lets emotions override everything else whether it is logical or not. Add to this that he is even worse off as a candidate today than he was before the last election, and it makes it even more imperative we need to move on.

It doesn't matter if you like him. It doesn't matter if he might even be the best potus we ever had -not that I believe that. All that matters is that he can not win bc one thing that will not change is that he will continue to offend people and reinforce the "mean" persona. He is probably the only republican candidate that could not beat Biden in an election at this point.

He is probably the only republican candidate that could not beat Biden in an election at this point.

LOL, don't forget Mike Pence was going to be hung by his own party.

 

[clempzenbill]

I disagree with the Democrats are surging narrative.

The abortion decision RoeVWade was a legal abomination that has thankfully been aborted

Now let the states decide on their own laws

There’s a huge RED wave coming and don’t let fake news fake you out

That is my take

Polls always look this way in late summer before an election. It’s a historical trend plus polls have consistently grown less accurate for the last 15-20 years. Remember they had Hillary +10 in ‘16. They’re obviously going to try their old tricks of stalling until they can get enough mail in ballots “counted” in some States, although many states are more ready for this.

 

[CUT93]

Disagree but Trump hasn't even announced that he is running. Let's focus on the midterms for now.

That is part of the problem. His candidates in tight races in the midterms, particularly senate candidates, are going to have a tough time winning. I think we win the house back, but doubt we win the senate due to weaker general election Trump backed candidates winning primaries.

 

[CUT93]

He is probably the only republican candidate that could not beat Biden in an election at this point.

LOL, don't forget Mike Pence was going to be hung by his own party.

View embedded media

lol. Yeah, those people in that picture were going to hang the VP but were not willing to assault that cop right in front of them to find out where he was.
Also, I guess they were going to talk the secret service agents to death since they decided not to bring any guns in the building.

 

[clempzenbill]

If you read about politics, you've certainly read about the recent surge in polling numbers for Democrats. As Republicans do not typically put much stock into polls, let's be honest about what we're seeing. The surge for the Democrats is real. So what's driving this people may ask? Well, it's a couple of things.

One, the Dobbs decision is absolutely a significant factor here. America is a center country. Sometimes it's center left, sometimes it's center right. On abortion, we're a center left country. The Democrats won the post decision argument because of their power in the media and the message they put forward. As usual, Republicans totally misread the room and went in the wrong direction and lost the thread completely.

Second is candidate quality/Trump. Regardless of what one might think of Trump, this must be acknowledge. Everyone seems to have a very strong opinion about him. His influence in choosing candidates in purple state Senate primaries has been catastrophic for Republicans. It's just one terrible candidate after another when he's involved. Please list for me one candidate he's recruited who has broad appeal?

There's a great interview with Ruy Teixeira in the WSJ this weekend everyone should read. He is one of the preeminent voices in political analysis. He's a man on the left but he knows his stuff much like David Axelrod does. His opinion and views should be considered seriously. Basically, he indicates that while Democrats have some real long-term issues with their current path, they are winning right now because Republicans just don't seem to understand how their toxic relationship with Trump is destroying their prospects. The view on the right is too often that someone who can win like Trump did is somehow endowed with some magical ways that mean their personality is what the party needs to reflect. It's just not true at all. Conservative ideas can win, but not when they are put forward by a person like Trump.

Here's the link to the interview in the WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-th...trump-biden-2020-college-educated-11661477888

Teixeira has a substack too that is a good read. Here's his latest piece about what's going on. I know many on the right like to dismiss these kinds of people but this guy know his stuff. His views should be taken very seriously and very much to heart. Not to mention, his warning for Democrats about becoming the white/elitist party are going completely ignored. If Republicans would ever wake up and start going after all the votes, they would have a great chance at seizing a significant majority. Instead, we keep nominating Trump, Herschel and Dr. Oz.

The Democrats’ Shifting Coalition

Unlike Trump, They Love the Highly Educated

theliberalpatriot.substack.com

Well the Dems are in huge trouble with Hispanics and working class voters. They are also slipping with the black, and suburban women voters. Their party has been high jacked by the far left and doesn’t represent a large voting block when you start looking at individual issues like CRT and teaching kindergartners they arent boys and girls but whatever they want to be. The vast majority are also opposed to late term abortion. The Dems are not recognizing that most Americans are appalled at the open border and worry much more about inflation and the economy than their radical left pet issues of psychotic weirdness and wickedness. The polls are increasingly inaccurate the last 20 years so count me not worried except for the Senate which the GOP leadership may deliberately tank in November to stop the MAGA movement from taking over their party. That’s part of the problem, the corrupt leadership acts like the party belongs to them to make themselves rich and exercise power. People see through this is larger numbers than ever before.

This popular movement isn’t about political ideology or a person as much as about simple policies and people waking up to the fact that our government doesn’t give a rats ass about the working class and is totally corrupt and incompetent in running this country. They back Trump not becuase they like him, but because he fights for them and actually did the policies he campaigned on as much as the corrupt GOP would let him. Remember becuase of corrupt Republican leadership it took over a year just to get a tax cut.
People are done with the woke crowd and their insane agendas and beliefs. People are worried about the multimillion illegal alien invasion at the Southern Border, sky high inflation and rent and home prices. Crime and the obvious political targeting of law enforcement against its opposition.
This is a grass roots uprising and the biggest problem it has now is the old guard GOP corrupt leadership. It’ll take a few more cycles and wins to flush out the do nothings and back stabbers like McCarthy who should NOT be elected Speaker. we’re already seeing a bunch of Rinos retiring or being primaried out like Cheney and others. The leadership is the problem in National elections for the Republicans as they don’t run on issues that will win elections. This will change over time but it has to happen for complete victory as those scum are only about enriching themselves and exercising power just as their Dem counterparts
This movement has more work and years ahead to maturation as it takes about ten years historically for a new guard to take power.
I believe this is a very basic struggle of working class against the corrupt ruling class. After talking with hundreds of people and reading hours every day I get this impression from nearly all who support the MAGA movement. It will continue with or without Trump. It amazes me how obsessed people are with him but it’s not about him, even if his massive ego wants it to be. The elites aren’t fooling nearly as many as the used to. The jig is up.
People want government that represents them and their interests which are the basic traditions of this country, lower taxes, safe cities, family oriented schools and policies. The government staying the hell out of our lives and pockets. It doesn’t take an expert to understand this if you spend years talking to people and looking past the rhetoric.

 

[TigerGrowls]

That is part of the problem. His candidates in tight races in the midterms, particularly senate candidates, are going to have a tough time winning. I think we win the house back, but doubt we win the senate due to weaker general election Trump backed candidates winning primaries.

I disagree again. Do not listen to mitch the b1tch and his bs analysis. He is an official rep of the uniparty. The people spoke in the primaries and chose the candidates they wanted in most cases. With that said I still strongly believe that mass election fraud occurred in the 2020 general election and could again. Trump won the election and it was stolen by the uniparty. We are an occupied nation at this time suffering under control of foreign powers with the public leaders just traitors that sold us down the river imo. I understand that many will disagree with me, but it's the way I see it at this time.

 

[CUT93]

I disagree again. Do not listen to mitch the b1tch and his bs analysis. He is an official rep of the uniparty. The people spoke in the primaries and chose the candidates they wanted in most cases. With that said I still strongly believe that mass election fraud occurred in the 2020 general election and could again. Trump won the election and it was stolen by the uniparty. We are an occupied nation at this time suffering under control of foreign powers with the public leaders just traitors that sold us down the river imo. I understand that many will disagree with me, but it's the way I see it at this time.

Do you honestly think Trump can get more votes this time? The problem is his base may be even more fervent than they were last time, but that is of no help to him. To independents and some portion of republicans, he is seen as a worse candidate than he was in 2020.

It doesn't matter if he won the election or if the things you believe are true or not at this point. Perception is what matters. I'm not saying that is right, or that I agree with it, but that doesn't change the facts. It's about what people believe - not what actually happened. I know multiple people who have voted republican all their lives that simply would not vote for trump in the last election simply based on his personality. Even though they knew logically that it was the best thing, they would not do it bc he was mean. Those people are idiots, they are wrong, but they are still voters. They will be voters in the next election as well and will still not vote for him.

I'll give you a correlating example. If I hurt my wife's feelings, it doesn't matter if I was right or whether or not I meant to hurt her feelings - I am wrong and she is mad at me regardless of the facts. That is the way some people feel about trump and they are going to vote(or refuse to vote) with their feelings/emotions and not their heads.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Do you honestly think Trump can get more votes this time? The problem is his base may be even more fervent than they were last time, but that is of no help to him. To independents and some portion of republicans, he is seen as a worse candidate than he was in 2020.

It doesn't matter if he won the election or if the things you believe are true or not at this point. Perception is what matters. I'm not saying that is right, or that I agree with it, but that doesn't change the facts. It's about what people believe - not what actually happened. I know multiple people who have voted republican all their lives that simply would not vote for trump in the last election simply based on his personality. Even though they knew logically that it was the best thing, they would not do it bc he was mean. Those people are idiots, they are wrong, but they are still voters. They will be voters in the next election as well and will still not vote for him.

I'll give you a correlating example. If I hurt my wife's feelings, it doesn't matter if I was right or whether or not I meant to hurt her feelings - I am wrong and she is mad at me regardless of the facts. That is the way some people feel about trump and they are going to vote(or refuse to vote) with their feelings/emotions and not their heads.

I see what you are saying and agree with the logic in general. Since I do think Trump won though I absolutely think he can win again. I though will support and vote for whoever is the repub candidate even if I do not like the person since I would view it as the lesser of 2 evils. I though am with Trump 100% if he runs and we will let the chips fall where they may. If he becomes the repub nominee that will mean the majority of repub voters including women and everyone else voted for him to get to that point. It will all work out. I do not see Trump as diminished though. I see him getting stronger than ever before this is over. I could of course be wrong.

 

[dpic73]

I disagree again. Do not listen to mitch the b1tch and his bs analysis. He is an official rep of the uniparty. The people spoke in the primaries and chose the candidates they wanted in most cases. With that said I still strongly believe that mass election fraud occurred in the 2020 general election and could again. Trump won the election and it was stolen by the uniparty. We are an occupied nation at this time suffering under control of foreign powers with the public leaders just traitors that sold us down the river imo. I understand that many will disagree with me, but it's the way I see it at this time.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the way you see it always correlates with what you want.
Facts are but a nuisance.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

If the "fake news" goal is to get the dems to win, then talking about the dems surging is counterproductive. Better to remain quiet and let the reds get a false sense of security. That ways dems will continue to outpace republicans in fund raising.

Polls always look this way in late summer before an election. It’s a historical trend plus polls have consistently grown less accurate for the last 15-20 years. Remember they had Hillary +10 in ‘16. They’re obviously going to try their old tricks of stalling until they can get enough mail in ballots “counted” in some States, although many states are more ready for this.

A month or so ago Herschel Walker was way down and the haters were demonizing him and the media was demonizing him right on que from the Democratic machine that controls the media

Walker has surged and I see where he is now ahead

Let me just say that GA is going to vote for the football legion and not a Democratic puppet

Count on that

 

[dpic73]

A month or so ago Herschel Walker was way down and the haters were demonizing him and the media was demonizing him right on que from the Democratic machine that controls the media

Walker has surged and I see where he is now ahead

Let me just say that GA is going to vote for the football legion and not a Democratic puppet

Count on that

He may be up in one poll but Warnock still leads in the combined polling average. If Walker wins, I don't want to hear another word about electing competent politicians. You guys should just go ahead and put up a Fish Called Wanda and call it a day.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2022/georgia/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/ga/georgia-senate-walker-vs-warnock-7329.html

 

[TigerGrowls]

He may be up in one poll but Warnock still leads in the combined polling average. If Walker wins, I don't want to hear another word about electing competent politiciams. You guys should just go ahead and put up a Fish Called Wanda and call it a day.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2022/georgia/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/ga/georgia-senate-walker-vs-warnock-7329.html

Walker is smarter than Warnock and could beat him in just about any competition. My money is on Herschel who actually runs a successful business in GA employing state citizens while sheister preacher Warnock just has a history of fleecing peoples money and race baiting.

 

[dpic73]

Walker is smarter than Warnock and could beat him in just about any competition. My money is on Herschel who actually runs a successful business in GA employing state citizens while sheister preacher Warnock just has a history of fleecing peoples money and race baiting.

Sure man sure. Herschel bike not bent

 

[nytigerfan]

Walker is smarter than Warnock and could beat him in just about any competition. My money is on Herschel who actually runs a successful business in GA employing state citizens while sheister preacher Warnock just has a history of fleecing peoples money and race baiting.

why does he continue to refuse to debate Warnock? Why are maga candidates all over the country refusing to debate? Because they know they will be embarrassed on TV.

 

[TigerGrowls]

why does he continue to refuse to debate Warnock? Why are maga candidates all over the country refusing to debate? Because they know they will be embarrassed on TV.

You might want to check your source as it's the other way around on the debate challenge.

 

[dpic73]

You might want to check your source as it's the other way around on the debate challenge.

Herschel Walker declines invitation to debate Senator Warnock in Macon

Georgia Republican Senate candidate Herschel Walker says he's declined an invitation to participate in a debate in Macon against Senator Raphael Warnock.

www.gpb.org

 

[nytigerfan]

You might want to check your source as it's the other way around on the debate challenge.

The GWP feeding you propaganda bullshit again?

 

[nytigerfan]

If you read about politics, you've certainly read about the recent surge in polling numbers for Democrats. As Republicans do not typically put much stock into polls, let's be honest about what we're seeing. The surge for the Democrats is real. So what's driving this people may ask? Well, it's a couple of things.

One, the Dobbs decision is absolutely a significant factor here. America is a center country. Sometimes it's center left, sometimes it's center right. On abortion, we're a center left country. The Democrats won the post decision argument because of their power in the media and the message they put forward. As usual, Republicans totally misread the room and went in the wrong direction and lost the thread completely.

Second is candidate quality/Trump. Regardless of what one might think of Trump, this must be acknowledge. Everyone seems to have a very strong opinion about him. His influence in choosing candidates in purple state Senate primaries has been catastrophic for Republicans. It's just one terrible candidate after another when he's involved. Please list for me one candidate he's recruited who has broad appeal?

There's a great interview with Ruy Teixeira in the WSJ this weekend everyone should read. He is one of the preeminent voices in political analysis. He's a man on the left but he knows his stuff much like David Axelrod does. His opinion and views should be considered seriously. Basically, he indicates that while Democrats have some real long-term issues with their current path, they are winning right now because Republicans just don't seem to understand how their toxic relationship with Trump is destroying their prospects. The view on the right is too often that someone who can win like Trump did is somehow endowed with some magical ways that mean their personality is what the party needs to reflect. It's just not true at all. Conservative ideas can win, but not when they are put forward by a person like Trump.

Here's the link to the interview in the WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-th...trump-biden-2020-college-educated-11661477888

Teixeira has a substack too that is a good read. Here's his latest piece about what's going on. I know many on the right like to dismiss these kinds of people but this guy know his stuff. His views should be taken very seriously and very much to heart. Not to mention, his warning for Democrats about becoming the white/elitist party are going completely ignored. If Republicans would ever wake up and start going after all the votes, they would have a great chance at seizing a significant majority. Instead, we keep nominating Trump, Herschel and Dr. Oz.

The Democrats’ Shifting Coalition

Unlike Trump, They Love the Highly Educated

theliberalpatriot.substack.com

I have seen where several republican candidates have been scrubbing their websites of their extreme pro-life views. I expect more to follow. Roe is a bigger deal than republicans want to admit.

What they are doing is similar to Kavenaugh and Barrett on the SCOTUS. Just lie about your views to get elected / appointed, then do whatever you want. I don't think Americans are going to fall for that again.

 

[Willence]

I have seen where several republican candidates have been scrubbing their websites of their extreme pro-life views. I expect more to follow. Roe is a bigger deal than republicans want to admit.

What they are doing is similar to Kavenaugh and Barrett on the SCOTUS. Just lie about your views to get elected / appointed, then do whatever you want. I don't think Americans are going to fall for that again.

Getting rid of that decision was worth it. But as I said in my other post about the political winds right now, Republicans just can't help but keep pushing forward. There should not be a drive for a federal mandate against abortion. As much as I want that, politics is a business and it's bad politics to go in that direction. As related to those Justices lying, I guess I can understand how you may feel that way. But nevertheless, a nominee saying how they will rule before a case runs 100% contrary the the pillars of our justice system. No one should want that if you really think about it.

 

[CUT93]

He may be up in one poll but Warnock still leads in the combined polling average. If Walker wins, I don't want to hear another word about electing competent politicians. You guys should just go ahead and put up a Fish Called Wanda and call it a day.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/2022/georgia/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/ga/georgia-senate-walker-vs-warnock-7329.html

In house floor arguments about aid to Haiti, one of the Dem congressman from GA was imploring to rush aid immediately as he was afraid the island might "tip over" because all the people had moved to one side of the island. I'd just keep my mouth shut on that front if I were you, lol.

 

[dpic73]

In house floor arguments about aid to Haiti, one of the Dem congressman from GA was imploring to rush aid immediately as he was afraid the island might "tip over" because all the people had moved to one side of the island. I'd just keep my mouth shut on that front if I were you, lol.

If he said that while he was campaigning and he was in my district, I wouldn't have voted for him. Herschel is running for a statewide office and he's put his cards on the table - they're all blank.

 

[nytigerfan]

Getting rid of that decision was worth it. But as I said in my other post about the political winds right now, Republicans just can't help but keep pushing forward. There should not be a drive for a federal mandate against abortion. As much as I want that, politics is a business and it's bad politics to go in that direction. As related to those Justices lying, I guess I can understand how you may feel that way. But nevertheless, a nominee saying how they will rule before a case runs 100% contrary the the pillars of our justice system. No one should want that if you really think about it.

But did they say how they would rule. They just lied. I would have respect for them if they said "You know I won't know how I will rule on anything until the evidence is put in front of me."

 

[Willence]

But did they say how they would rule. They just lied. I would have respect for them if they said "You know I won't know how I will rule on anything until the evidence is put in front of me."

I'll have to look up the exact quote. I honestly don't remember and I know that's a big bone of contention for people in your sphere.

 

[clempzenbill]

If you read about politics, you've certainly read about the recent surge in polling numbers for Democrats. As Republicans do not typically put much stock into polls, let's be honest about what we're seeing. The surge for the Democrats is real. So what's driving this people may ask? Well, it's a couple of things.

One, the Dobbs decision is absolutely a significant factor here. America is a center country. Sometimes it's center left, sometimes it's center right. On abortion, we're a center left country. The Democrats won the post decision argument because of their power in the media and the message they put forward. As usual, Republicans totally misread the room and went in the wrong direction and lost the thread completely.

Second is candidate quality/Trump. Regardless of what one might think of Trump, this must be acknowledge. Everyone seems to have a very strong opinion about him. His influence in choosing candidates in purple state Senate primaries has been catastrophic for Republicans. It's just one terrible candidate after another when he's involved. Please list for me one candidate he's recruited who has broad appeal?

There's a great interview with Ruy Teixeira in the WSJ this weekend everyone should read. He is one of the preeminent voices in political analysis. He's a man on the left but he knows his stuff much like David Axelrod does. His opinion and views should be considered seriously. Basically, he indicates that while Democrats have some real long-term issues with their current path, they are winning right now because Republicans just don't seem to understand how their toxic relationship with Trump is destroying their prospects. The view on the right is too often that someone who can win like Trump did is somehow endowed with some magical ways that mean their personality is what the party needs to reflect. It's just not true at all. Conservative ideas can win, but not when they are put forward by a person like Trump.

Here's the link to the interview in the WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-th...trump-biden-2020-college-educated-11661477888

Teixeira has a substack too that is a good read. Here's his latest piece about what's going on. I know many on the right like to dismiss these kinds of people but this guy know his stuff. His views should be taken very seriously and very much to heart. Not to mention, his warning for Democrats about becoming the white/elitist party are going completely ignored. If Republicans would ever wake up and start going after all the votes, they would have a great chance at seizing a significant majority. Instead, we keep nominating Trump, Herschel and Dr. Oz.

The Democrats’ Shifting Coalition

Unlike Trump, They Love the Highly Educated

theliberalpatriot.substack.com

Walker is smarter than Warnock and could beat him in just about any competition. My money is on Herschel who actually runs a successful business in GA employing state citizens while sheister preacher Warnock just has a history of fleecing peoples money and race baiting.

I read Warlock has doubled his wealth since joining the Senate, typical although both sides are there to get rich.

 

[clempzenbill]

Getting rid of that decision was worth it. But as I said in my other post about the political winds right now, Republicans just can't help but keep pushing forward. There should not be a drive for a federal mandate against abortion. As much as I want that, politics is a business and it's bad politics to go in that direction. As related to those Justices lying, I guess I can understand how you may feel that way. But nevertheless, a nominee saying how they will rule before a case runs 100% contrary the the pillars of our justice system. No one should want that if you really think about it.

But thats how the Left views the courts. They are there to legislate from the bench. Always have and always will. That’s what Roe was all about, creating a Federal right that doesn’t exist under law with a poor extrapolated legal ease argument when the Dems could have just passed a Federal law.
Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg their hero, stated it was a bad ruling, really shaky reasoning. This is what they mean by a “living breathing document” they feel free to invent new meaning and ignore all context and previous precedent. This is clearly opposite of traditional legal theory where context and precedent are critical in legal rulings.

 

[dpic73]

I disagree with the Democrats are surging narrative.

The abortion decision RoeVWade was a legal abomination that has thankfully been aborted

Now let the states decide on their own laws

There’s a huge RED wave coming and don’t let fake news fake you out

That is my take

Still disagree?

Alaska Special Election Upset Expands Democrats’ House Majority

Democrat Mary Peltola flipped Alaska’s lone House seat in this month’s special election, growing Democrats’ majority in the narrowly divided chamber and setting up a rematch against former Republican Gov. Sarah Palin for the seat in November.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[TigerGrowls]

Herschel Walker declines invitation to debate Senator Warnock in Macon

Georgia Republican Senate candidate Herschel Walker says he's declined an invitation to participate in a debate in Macon against Senator Raphael Warnock.

www.gpb.org

FAKE NEWS!! Herschel has been publically challenging Warnock to a debate for the last few months. They are lying about Herschel all day every day here in GA. All of those commercials saying Herschel lied are fake too.