Who here is in a sales role?

[aks121488]

Im going on my 15th year in sales and to be honest this seems to be the hardest year ever. Cold calling and cold emailing are just returning ZILCH, NADA, ZERO. I'm not a pushy salesman; I try to show what value I can bring and truly try to find what your pain points are with your company. That said I try to make my emails and calls personalized and to the point but dang if im not getting anything at all. I am not too proud to ask for help so does anyone have any pointers or ideas or suggestions? Im all ears on this. Thanks everyone.

 

[OleFastball]

What are you selling? Is it time to change the products you sell?

 

[scotchtiger]

I’m a sales VP. Big week coming up. Hoping to hit our annual number by EOQ2.

 

[tigerworx]

Im going on my 15th year in sales and to be honest this seems to be the hardest year ever. Cold calling and cold emailing are just returning ZILCH, NADA, ZERO. I'm not a push salesman; I try to show what value I can bring and truly try to find what your pain points are with your company. That said I try to make my emails and calls personalized and to the point but dang if im not getting anything at all. I am not too proud to ask for help so does anyone have any pointers or ideas or suggestions? Im all ears on this. Thanks everyone.

Can't speak to what you do or your overall market, friend.

But, if it's any consolation, we are still pretty 'soft' economically in NW Wyoming.
Everything seems a little off.

I believe people are afraid.
Also, I have seen quotes relating to vacations as silly (but real?) "Do we eat, or do we go on vacation?" Obviously it's not that bad, but still..... It's on people's minds.

We have no positive leadership at the national level.
"Evil" is the word I hear from casual friends or tourists.
I have never heard that word used so much in my 71 years.
Very little "Oh, we'll be fine".

People don't know what's coming and are scared.
With the track record of this administration and the hub-bub of the last election, many people are resigned to not expect the "Ronald Reagan" positive outlook for the future.

IN NO WAY AM I TRYING TO MAKE THIS A POLITICAL PIECE.

JUST SAYING, I SEE AND HEAR THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S COMING.

 

[aks121488]

What are you selling? Is it time to change the products you sell?

I sell kiosks in the F&B sector but also into hotel/colleges/airports. So many places are looking for ways to use cashier less check out but also for digital signage and wayfinding/GPS. What's cool is we are the manufacturer in Mississippi, so no foreign built machines. I know people are investing in this but dang if its not incredibly hard to get some type of response.

 

[aks121488]

Can't speak to what you do or your overall market, friend.

But, if it's any consolation, we are still pretty 'soft' economically in NW Wyoming.
Everything seems a little off.

I believe people are afraid.
Also, I have seen quotes relating to vacations as silly (but real?) "Do we eat, or do we go on vacation?" Obviously it's not that bad, but still..... It's on people's minds.

We have no positive leadership at the national level.
"Evil" is the word I hear from casual friends or tourists.
I have never heard that word used so much in my 71 years.
Very little "Oh, we'll be fine".

People don't know what's coming and are scared.
With the track record of this administration and the hub-bub of the last election, many people are resigned to not expect the "Ronald Reagan" positive outlook for the future.

IN NO WAY AM I TRYING TO MAKE THIS A POLITICAL PIECE.

JUST SAYING, I SEE AND HEAR THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S COMING.

I completely agree on being afraid. Being in sales and my dad is a really accomplished financial advisor he hears the same thing. It feels like some folks are really terrified and some just dont give a damn, ha. Unfortunately it has not slowed down the people looking to buy up all our beautiful land out.

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

We need a change in this country’s leadership, to create optimism.

Regardless of the political side people are on, they know.

 

[clemsontiger02]

I'm in digital advertising. This is a brutal year. Big advertisers pulling back en masse.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Can't speak to what you do or your overall market, friend.

But, if it's any consolation, we are still pretty 'soft' economically in NW Wyoming.
Everything seems a little off.

I believe people are afraid.
Also, I have seen quotes relating to vacations as silly (but real?) "Do we eat, or do we go on vacation?" Obviously it's not that bad, but still..... It's on people's minds.

We have no positive leadership at the national level.
"Evil" is the word I hear from casual friends or tourists.
I have never heard that word used so much in my 71 years.
Very little "Oh, we'll be fine".

People don't know what's coming and are scared.
With the track record of this administration and the hub-bub of the last election, many people are resigned to not expect the "Ronald Reagan" positive outlook for the future.

IN NO WAY AM I TRYING TO MAKE THIS A POLITICAL PIECE.

JUST SAYING, I SEE AND HEAR THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S COMING.

To be fair which most people want to NOT be fair

Being conservative I am very surprised at where the economy is at today

hanging on but I am still expecting a massive financial wave to wash over us po folks and create a huge recession if not s depression

The integrity in Washington really bothers me but stay away from politics and religion so the thread does not end up with two or three guys fighting back and forth with a hundred replies

So very concerned but prepared if that is possible

 

[clempzenbill]

To be fair which most people want to NOT be fair

Being conservative I am very surprised at where the economy is at today

hanging on but I am still expecting a massive financial wave to wash over us po folks and create a huge recession if not s depression

The integrity in Washington really bothers me but stay away from politics and religion so the thread does not end up with two or three guys fighting back and forth with a hundred replies

So very concerned but prepared if that is possible

Yes I’m thinking deep recession is best case scenario but I honestly don’t know how, and depression is probable if not likely.
All the indicators are worse than 2008 with more of them.
The lower and most middle class lost any saving they had because of the lockdown and inflation has prevented them from catching up, let alone saving up which is one of the very low indicators. Credit card debt is at all time high, and defaults are rising rapidly as well as car repos and mortgage defaults with one month late or more on payments rising rapidly as well.
The small businesses that survived the lockdown now can’t get commercial loans as banks are losing deposits and see the writing on the wall. They’re also holding hundreds of billions in treasuries that they can’t sell for what they paid, moving them closer to insolvency. Couple that with tighter M2 and people moving money out of banks there’s little to drive growth
Global orders and global shipping are crashing as well as domestic trucking.

Dont want to write a book, but that’s the tip of the iceberg, and it’s pitch black, no moon, foggy and we’re headed straight for it at flank speed

 

[dpic73]

I watch a lot of financial guys that look at the broad picture and historic trends. Everything is lining up for a major downturn, worse than ‘08. The numbers are worse than in 2007 across the board. last qtr GDP had negative growth (shrank). We’re looking at a perfect storm of global events. Many governments are already in severe debt because of the lockdowns
They’re fudging a lot of numbers including CPI and inflation is much worse than reported when including things deliberately left out like home and rent prices. Real inflation is more like 12%. It’s never been this high before so saying it’s a forty year high is another attempt to diffuse the bad news.
When the greatly increased price of grain coupled with a huge increase in shipping costs hits the supply chain in a few months it’s going to drive up the prices of most foods a bunch.
shipping a container from Asia to the left coast cost less than $2,000 two years ago. It’s now more than $10,000.
New car and truck sales are down 23%. University of Michigan studies consumers habits and attitudes and it’s at it lowest point in forever. Over 60% of Americans were already living paycheck to paycheck with little savings and little room in their budgets.
44% of US farmland is in severe drought. China had their worst wheat harvest ever. China has had to destroy two thirds of their pork due to swine fever. More than the rest of the worlds pork combined. Poorer places like Africa can’t afford 300-400% increases in fertilizer and their crop production will decrease dramatically. World wide supply chain problems and shortages are further slowing economies.
None of this is made up. We’re heading for at best a long deep recession but more likely a global depression. For us here it won’t be as bad. We are the most self sufficient country in the world and the most resilient economy, But financially many will lose big time and the poor and lower middle class will suffer severely.
the simpletons here will of course will throw there insults but ignore them, the way they ignore anything but their same old tired media sources. Do your own research, it’s all easy to find if you can be honest with yourself and deny what you hope is true. The world will never be the same again.

You also said the above a year ago, LOL. Damn, you and @PalmettoTiger1 are the biggest negative nellies this board has ever seen. You two stay in your bomb shelters, the rest of us will live our lives as normal because everything will be just fine. We won't miss you.

Yes I’m thinking deep depression is best case scenario but I honestly don’t know how, and depression is probable if not likely.
All the indicators are worse than 2008 with more of them.
The lower and most middle class lost any saving they had because of the lockdown and inflation has prevented them from catching up, let alone saving up which is one of the very low indicators. Credit card debt is at all time high, and defaults are rising rapidly as well as car repos and mortgage defaults with one month late or more on payments rising rapidly as well.
The small businesses that survived the lockdown now can’t get commercial loans as banks are losing deposits and see the writing on the wall. They’re also holding hundreds of billions in treasuries that they can’t sell for what they paid, moving them closer to insolvency. Couple that with tighter M2 and people moving money out of banks there’s little to drive growth
Global orders and global shipping are crashing as well as domestic trucking.

Dont want to write a book, but that’s the tip of the iceberg, and it’s pitch black, no moon, foggy and we’re headed straight for it at flank speed

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

You also said the above a year ago, LOL. Damn, you and @PalmettoTiger1 are the biggest negative nellies this board has ever seen. You two stay in your bomb shelters, the rest of us will live our lives as normal because everything will be just fine. We won't miss you.

I gotta agree with @dpic73 here, sans the last sentence.

You guys have been preaching doom for a while now, and sure.. you’ll eventually be correct, but I think both your prognostications are exaggerations.

I own two businesses, and they’re doing well.

 

[dpic73]

I gotta agree with @dpic73 here, sans the last sentence.

You guys have been preaching doom for a while now, and sure.. you’ll eventually be correct, but I think both your prognostications are exaggerations.

I own two businesses, and they’re doing well.

My company is booming. Last year was great and this year we're up 18%. Our economy is agile and resilient, so we will be fine.

 

[DW4_2016]

no matter what this is biden's fault.

 

[dbjork6317]

In the retail space we are seeing YoY door swings up by about 12% nationwide. However that’s still less than our projected traffic in most markets. The SMB side of our business is booming.

 

[scotchtiger]

I have no idea how to predict the market or recessions, but I’m not sure what the catalyst would be to send us into something like a dot com or housing bubble induced crash. Perhaps something to do with the rapidly rising rates that sunk the likes of SVB?

I don’t really see it. But what do I know.

 

[firegiver]

Housing costs twice as much as it did 15 years ago. Wages arent catching up. The PPP and trillions the fed spent are gone now. Corporations used them for stock buy backs (thanks Reagan! ). The wealth is hoarded.

 

[flotiger]

I have no idea how to predict the market or recessions, but I’m not sure what the catalyst would be to send us into something like a dot com or housing bubble induced crash. Perhaps something to do with the rapidly rising rates that sunk the likes of SVB?

I don’t really see it. But what do I know.

About a third of all office space leases up for renewal in 2026 is the next catalyst according to a number of reports. Coupled with large commercial real estate groups threatening to hand their properties back to banks. I don't know how factual but it looks worrisome.

 

[nytigerfan]

About a third of all office space leases up for renewal in 2026 is the next catalyst according to a number of reports. Coupled with large commercial real estate groups threatening to hand their properties back to banks. I don't know how factual but it looks worrisome.

And yet in every major city new office building are being built all over the place. NYC, Nashville, ATL are all cities I have been in recently where the big cranes are working overtime.

 

[scotchtiger]

About a third of all office space leases up for renewal in 2026 is the next catalyst according to a number of reports. Coupled with large commercial real estate groups threatening to hand their properties back to banks. I don't know how factual but it looks worrisome.

Work from home is a thing for sure. Perhaps that’s it. I definitely see a transformation in commercial real estate.