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OT: Movie: I Can Only Imagine

According to the CDC, had abortion been illegal over the last 15 years, there would currently be 12 million more people between the ages of 3-18 in the US. Many of these children would have been born into poverty, many would have been born to single mothers.

The question that I’m getting at is, are we as a society ready and willing to commit to taking on the burden of 12 million more children? 12 million more that need healthcare, 12 million more that need an education, 12 million more that need to eat. How many of those 12 million would end up needing foster care?

The private sector can’t solve all those problems. It just can’t. The private sector isn’t solving the problems we have now, and it won’t solve 12 million more. It can help, sure. But it won’t do the job on its own. Not if we are serious about providing for the children in our society.

You say you want to eliminate abortions, but also say the government shouldn’t mandate free birth control. Yet ever since the government did mandate free birth control under President Obama, the number of abortions in the United States has declined. This is according to CDC numbers.

These are the things that serious people must consider when they talk about banning abortion. What are the consequences of that? What do we do about more child poverty? How does that impact the economy? How does that change government spending?

Where are our priorities as a society?
That’s a fairly discriminating and racist thing to think that most of these children would be nothing but poor and a drain on society. What about the children that will create or invent things that will improve our society because they experienced being poor?
What about the rich mother’s child that would have donated most of their time and future inherited wealth to the poor. Because the last thing they wanted is to be like the selfish mother that took their life? Therefore changing generations of selfishness to come from her lineage for generations.
What about the children that grow up to be social workers, volunteers, donors, CEOs, preachers, nuns, priest, or even President? I believe the upside from those unborn that are slaughtered would have far outweighed the downside of the poor that you talk about like they are some burdensome disease!!
To think otherwise is just selfish, racist and is the reason Planned Parenthood targets the poor, mostly minority neighborhoods for their locations. The elitist left wing in this country thinks they know better than God. Look up some of Ted Turner’s thinking if you’re not convinced or the elitist thinking of someone like goofy ass Big Bird ( @johnhugh )
 
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That’s a fairly discriminating and racist thing to think that most of these children would be nothing but poor and a drain on society. What about the children that will create or invent things that will improve our society because they experienced being poor?
What about the rich mother’s child that would have donated most of their time and future inherited wealth to the poor. Because the last thing they wanted is to be like selfish mother that took their life? Therefore changing generations of selfishness to come from her lineage for generations.
What about the children that grow up to be social workers, volunteers, donors, CEOs, preachers, nuns, priest, or even President? I believe the upside from those unborn that are slaughtered would have far outweighed the downside of the poor you talk about like they are some burdensome disease!!
To think otherwise is just selfish, racist and is the reason Planned Parenthood targets the poor, mostly minority neighborhoods for their locations. The elitist left wing in this country thinks they know better than God. Look up some of Ted Turner’s thinking if you’re not convinced or the elitist thinking of someone like goofy ass Big Bird ( @johnhugh )
My post was racist? Can you point to the sentence where I mentioned anything about race? Please highlight it.
 
The good Lord would provide for these kids through his people or any way he chooses. Oh ye of little faith...
Just like the Lord provides for all of those starving kids in Africa whose ignorant parents listen to the dumbass Pope tell them how evil birth control is.

Can you give me a refresher on how the Lord provides for the 1 in 6 children in America who deal with starvation, much less the ones overseas who die from it?

While you're at it, was the Lord taking a nap when the children were murdered at Sandy Hook or Parkland? Those children needed some providing when they were gunned down.

Seriously, are you literally unfamiliar with human history to make such an asinine statement? The Lord has "provided" for a very select few over the course of time. Little faith lol. Read a history book or check your headlines around the world on a daily basis.
 
Just like the Lord provides for all of those starving kids in Africa whose ignorant parents listen to the dumbass Pope tell them how evil birth control is.

Can you give me a refresher on how the Lord provides for the 1 in 6 children in America who deal with starvation, much less the ones overseas who die from it?

While you're at it, was the Lord taking a nap when the children were murdered at Sandy Hook or Parkland? Those children needed some providing when they were gunned down.

Seriously, are you literally unfamiliar with human history to make such an asinine statement? The Lord has "provided" for a very select few over the course of time. Little faith lol. Read a history book or check your headlines around the world on a daily basis.
So? Kill ‘em all will work! Or if you’re an elitist racists, just the poor ones. Only I deserve a chance at life because my family had enough money to take care of me.
The sad truth is, people like you care more about their pets then they do the unborn.
 
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This is not biblical, so it's not truth! It's how you feel not what God says. Those that are in faith must worship and do so in spirit and truth (the bible). If someone's does something or lives a certain way and they claim it's done in faith in God, then it must line up with scripture or it's just a feeling and not true faith.
No offense, but that sounds like something ISIS would say.
 
Just curious... isn’t it hypocritical to follow Jesus and still support trump? Isn’t trump basically the antichrist?
Are you serious???

I'm not saying Trump is a saint...far from it actually but the things he does are much more in line with biblical teachings than the alternative. Firrst & foremost, he supports Israel fully. If you are a Christian, then you SHOULD KNOW the importance of that. No administration damaged US-Israel ties than the Obama administration...NONE! You want our country to be judged harshly? Continue down the road Obama was heading... Thank God Hillary wasn't elected!

And another thing, there is a reason the globalists, atheists, muslims, homosexuals, abortionists, etc stand with liberals...why do you think that is??
 
This. It’s been clear for a while that “religious freedom” is code for “my ability to impose my religious beliefs on others.”

Can you please cite an example or two?
Because I honestly don't know of any.
Now, murder and rape are truly considered wrong in Judeo-Christian theology, but are NOT wrong in every culture on earth.
Does it bother you that murder and rape are illegal, since these values are clearly a product of widespread religious beliefs?
 
This. I am constantly perplexed as to what people construe as "having their religious freedoms taken away". As long as your personal ability to believe and worship isn't taken away (provided you do so without forcing others to take part or prohibit their ability to do the same), then what can/has been done to take your freedoms away? It seems to me that the only complaint tends to be that others ar not forced to go along with your beliefs when theirs differ.
Bingo! I think what they equate religious freedom with is acceptance by others that my religious beliefs are correct and should be applied to every aspect of everyone's life.
So I'm again assuming that he had everyone fill out a questionare listing their biblical transgressions prior to agreeing to, or refusing to bake them a cake. Otherwise, this seems a whole lot more like being homophobic than religious.
Not to mention, the Bible has no stance on selling cakes to homosexuals.
 
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I should probably put you on ignore because you are just spouting rhetoric that is fed to you like a sheep, but what the hell I'll reply.

You can condemn trump and hillary at the same time. It's not either/or. Nothing about my post was about his effectiveness as a president - it is about his character. I can't reconcile how a Christian can support someone like Trump. Nothing you offered helped explain that.

From my vantage point, as bad as he.....and he is indeed a very egotistical and frightening personality.......he was/is significantly better than the hubristic sociopathic alternative that was offered. Sad that this country cannot attract sacrificial servanthood style persons to run for positions of leadership. Lots of reasons but discouraging all the same......where have all the leaders gone??
 
For those who have seen the movie, is the acting decent or does it have the cheese factor that most of these faith based films have?
 
That's biblical, so no it's not from some heathen god that actually makes people submit to a belief. Your free will to choose truth or lies. My job is to tell you truth.
You are trying to make others submit to your beliefs
 
Can you please cite an example or two?
Because I honestly don't know of any.
Now, murder and rape are truly considered wrong in Judeo-Christian theology, but are NOT wrong in every culture on earth.
Does it bother you that murder and rape are illegal, since these values are clearly a product of widespread religious beliefs?
How about crying that you shouldn't have to bake a cake for a paying customer who happens to be gay? This is a public-serving business, I assume. Do You think that a retail business would be able to say that they weren't serving an African-American couple because of their race? Of course not, because race is a protected class, while sexual preference is not. So under the guise of their "religious beliefs" they can discriminate against homosexuals. Now again, I'll ask, do they ask everyone who comes in which biblical transgressions they are guilty of, so that they can choose not to serve them either? I'm sure that most all of their customers have committed sins, and I'm sure many do so on a recurring basis. This is simply using your religion as an excuse to be an a$$ and discriminate.
 
You are trying to make others submit to your beliefs
No, I just proclaim truth, the gospel of Jesus Christ. A message of grace and mercy that changes lives. The person must submit to the Holy Spirit when he reveals their lost condition and need for salvation that is in the Lord. I don't force my beliefs, I just tell the truth and I must continue to. For the simple fact that God is not willing that any perish but that all should come to repentance. That's love, not pushing something on someone. I didn't get saved the first time I heard the message even though it was seemingly pushed on me. But, looking back, I'm glad people from the church would visit me and try to encourage me to come. I'm glad someone kept pushing that belief on me. I'm glad someone helped me out in return I would go to a tent meeting with them on a Thursday night, the night I went and ended up being born again. Thanks to all those that so called pushed their faith on me, I don't have to go to hell and my life is much better. So no it's not pushing beliefs, it's caring enough to tell the truth and consistently try to save a soul from hell. God called his people to do so. It's called the great commission.
 
Horrible person leading our country? SMH. How would you feel if Hillary was in office? Who in the hell is she? Mother Teresa? Those were the 2 choices. Trump is doing a great job. Keeping promises and getting things done. Much better than Obama. What a hellish 8 years it was with him in office. Trump is killin it. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Loves Russia and getting grabbed by the pu$$y. Is also ok with her husband having an affair with porn stars, making fun of mentally challenged people, and thinks racists are good people.
 
As a Christian, I'm not going to judge his faith. He professes to be a Christian... who am I to say he isn't?
We are all sinners. That includes our President, our preacher, etc. I have no idea what's in Donald Trump's heart. Just as I have no idea what's in yours. I do have an idea as to his vision for the direction of our country. And I'm with him. All in.

“You will know them by their fruit.”

Plenty of people claim to be a Christian and plainly are not living a Christian life. Trump is obviously an easy example of such a person, and Christians should not bury their head in the sand and pretend otherwise.
 
So? Kill ‘em all will work! Or if you’re an elitist racists, just the poor ones. Only I deserve a chance at life because my family had enough money to take care of me.
The sad truth is, people like you care more about their pets then they do the unborn.
Didn't God literally kill 'em all once except for a very select few with a flood?

I don't care about what a woman does with her own body because it's her business. Maybe if you had any evidence at all that God ever did anything to spare a single child on this planet from suffering, then I could take your assertions more seriously. Instead, children die horrible deaths every single day, and people like you say Ts and Ps and spout some mysterious ways crap about some half-assed plan that is supposed to be guiding a planet that is a veritable shithole for many of its inhabitants.
 
Because liberals are less likely to be bigoted.

Right. Liberals are very tolerant of those who disagree with them and they are always logical...

Hillary called Trump supporters “deplorable.” If you don’t agree with Hillary, that’s what you are.

Liberal bumper sticker: “Mean people suck.”
That’s liberal logic. Call out someone else for being mean and then tell them they suck.

Tell everyone that unborn children are a fetus and not a baby. But when a pregnant woman is killed they call it a “Double homicide.”

Let’s face it, both sides have large holes in their armor.
 
Didn't God literally kill 'em all once except for a very select few with a flood?

I don't care about what a woman does with her own body because it's her business. Maybe if you had any evidence at all that God ever did anything to spare a single child on this planet from suffering, then I could take your assertions more seriously. Instead, children die horrible deaths every single day, and people like you say Ts and Ps and spout some mysterious ways crap about some half-assed plan that is supposed to be guiding a planet that is a veritable shithole for many of its inhabitants.
And....heres your ticket straight to hell....enjoy the tan!
 
Just like the Lord provides for all of those starving kids in Africa whose ignorant parents listen to the dumbass Pope tell them how evil birth control is.

Can you give me a refresher on how the Lord provides for the 1 in 6 children in America who deal with starvation, much less the ones overseas who die from it?

While you're at it, was the Lord taking a nap when the children were murdered at Sandy Hook or Parkland? Those children needed some providing when they were gunned down.

Seriously, are you literally unfamiliar with human history to make such an asinine statement? The Lord has "provided" for a very select few over the course of time. Little faith lol. Read a history book or check your headlines around the world on a daily basis.
Sounds like you have had a tough and tragic life to be as negative as you are. Sounds like a little Jesus in your life is just what the DR ordered.
 
Sounds like you have had a tough and tragic life to be as negative as you are. Sounds like a little Jesus in your life is just what the DR ordered.
Nope. I've had a great life. Other than the faulty hairline, I can't complain.
 
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