A look at the Florida Covid situation

[AustinTiger77]

As the # of “confirmed” covid19 cases piles up in South Carolina, and other “hotspots” - its interesting that we haven't seen a corresponding rise in hospitalizations & deaths. Not yet at least. And, I’m starting to think we won’t.

Here’s a fascinating look @ Florida.

I’d appreciate any of you who are more adept @ data analytics than I am to point out the potential flaws here.

 

[MoonlightGrahamCracker]

Pretty simply, it’s hard to know until about 2 weeks from now. The spikes of cases won’t yield as many hospitalizations until people have had the virus long enough for it to become severe, and the number of deaths begins to truly become magnified when hospitalizations ramp up (beds become full, etc.). I would love for this graph to continue its current trend in a couple weeks, but we’ll just have to see.

 

[MBTiger23]

Pretty simply, it’s hard to know until about 2 weeks from now. The spikes of cases won’t yield as many hospitalizations until people have had the virus long enough for it to become severe, and the number of deaths begins to truly become magnified when hospitalizations ramp up (beds become full, etc.). I would love for this graph to continue its current trend in a couple weeks, but we’ll just have to see.

You know how many weeks they've been saying to wait 2 weeks?

 

[fatpiggy]

Pretty simply, it’s hard to know until about 2 weeks from now. The spikes of cases won’t yield as many hospitalizations until people have had the virus long enough for it to become severe, and the number of deaths begins to truly become magnified when hospitalizations ramp up (beds become full, etc.). I would love for this graph to continue its current trend in a couple weeks, but we’ll just have to see.

Did you really just “two weeks” us?
Can’t tell if serious

 

[MoonlightGrahamCracker]

You know how many weeks they've been saying to wait 2 weeks?

I mean today there were 11,000 cases in Florida. 2 weeks ago there there 3,000 a day.

Seems like a different ballgame. I mean, I’d love to be wrong...

 

[fatpiggy]

I mean today there were 11,000 cases in Florida. 2 weeks ago there there 3,000 a day.

Seems like a different ballgame. I mean, I’d love to be wrong...

Cases are irrelevant

 

[fatpiggy]

Cases are irrelevant

I should say, cases taken without any other pertinent information to go with it, is irrelevant.

 

[dbjork6317]

It should be noted that the CDC is reporting much higher numbers of deaths due to pneumonia than in previous years. I know here in Texas its about 5x as many pneumonia deaths in 2020 as there were in 2019, so a pretty significant jump. Obviously highly likely that many of these were COVID.

 

[AustinTiger77]

It should be noted that the CDC is reporting much higher numbers of deaths due to pneumonia than in previous years. I know here in Texas its about 5x as many pneumonia deaths in 2020 as there were in 2019, so a pretty significant jump. Obviously highly likely that many of these were COVID.

Hard to know what to believe on that front. Some are saying we are over counting and some are suggesting the opposite. No one really trusts the data and it seems to not be reported or tracked consistently.

 

[jeffcoat]

As the # of “confirmed” covid19 cases piles up in South Carolina, and other “hotspots” - its interesting that we haven't seen a corresponding rise in hospitalizations & deaths. Not yet at least. And, I’m starting to think we won’t.

Here’s a fascinating look @ Florida.

I’d appreciate any of you who are more adept @ data analytics than I am to point out the potential flaws here.

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1. It's funny that the graph/twitter that you post has nothing to do with total confirmed cases, hospitalizations, or deaths. It is a graph of cases by age versus normal risk of fatality and covid19 risk of fatality.

2. I find it weird that the risk of death due to Covid19 is less than the normal risk of death.

 

[CUFever91]

That chart is misrepresenting the data. He took data from the Florida health site. The statistic he uses for death rate is for the overall the population. He doesn't give the death rate for the people who catch COVID.

 

[BAnksMcFadden]

It should be noted that the CDC is reporting much higher numbers of deaths due to pneumonia than in previous years. I know here in Texas its about 5x as many pneumonia deaths in 2020 as there were in 2019, so a pretty significant jump. Obviously highly likely that many of these were COVID.

Trust me, if there were one active virus in a pneumonia death . They would find that sucker and report it as so.

 

[SDTiger9]

2. I find it weird that the risk of death due to Covid19 is less than the normal risk of death.

This is what I’ve been waiting on all along. It’s what I expected/suspected.

COVID has 1 problem over everything else. It’s easily transmissible and creates the spike which taxes the healthcare system. That’s it.
Unfortunately it’s the game we’ve been playing. If we are just smart going about our business, we can managing this. Unfortunately there are many people who don’t respect or understand the numbers. Or, they just had enough which I understand.

 

[76observer]

SC total In hospitals each day due to COVID is more than triple the number recorded before Memorial Day and deaths due to COVID set daily records this week. Not a good sign. Hope it turns around soon.

 

[harristeeter]

SC total In hospitals each day due to COVID is more than triple the number recorded before Memorial Day and deaths due to COVID set daily records this week. Not a good sign. Hope it turns around soon.

As I’ve stated before, I’ve seen the hospital emails with their numbers reported to the CDC.

Used to not believe any data coming from China. I hardly even believe ours anymore.

 

[TigerJR]

2019- There were ~650 deaths in South Carolina due to car accidents.
2020- There have been ~780 deaths in South Carolina due to COVID-19.

Why didn’t we ban cars in 2019? LOL

My point is that the overreaction to COVID-19 is unbelievable.

Liberals flame away!

 

[AustinTiger77]

until recently 3 bordering South Florida counties, Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach had over half of the cases in the state...until a month or so ago Broward and Miami-Dade had over half the cases by themselves...the 3 still have roughly 81,000 of the 190,000 cases...throw in Orange County which is Orlando and the 4 counties together have right at half of the states cases with 94,000

What's your point? Aren't those also the most populated areas, where'd you'd expect a highly transmissible disease to be spread...?

 

[TigerDO]

Our hospital is packed. No beds. We have 32+ COVID patients in house today with 10 or so on the vent. For comparison we had 11 total COVID pts from March through May. I am in Georgia. So hospitalizations are up and deaths are up...and I expect them to rise a good bit in the next few weeks.

 

[ajpbnd]

2019- There were ~650 deaths in South Carolina due to car accidents.
2020- There have been ~780 deaths in South Carolina due to COVID-19.

Why didn’t we ban cars in 2019? LOL

My point is that the overreaction to COVID-19 is unbelievable.

Liberals flame away!

Smh .... look up faulty logic. Also, does it strike you funny at all that you cite a yearlong death statistic and compare it to deaths over basically a third of a year. Not to mention that statistic is already higher over this same shorter period. I wish people would stop cherry-picking data to try and categorize as this something routine, it may not be as bad as some of the original models predicted and only time will tell if the precautions taken were worth it or not, but it does not make the pandemic any less serious and historic.

 

[AustinTiger77]

I mean today there were 11,000 cases in Florida. 2 weeks ago there there 3,000 a day.

Seems like a different ballgame. I mean, I’d love to be wrong...

Yes, the % of the population infected is increasing. No one is disputing that and it is expected during a pandemic. What of the hospitalization rate? ICU rate, etc? Deaths?

 

[BigTimeTiger]

You know how many weeks they've been saying to wait 2 weeks?

ROTFLMAO just wait 6 more weeks

 

[BigTimeTiger]

Our hospital is packed. No beds. We have 32+ COVID patients in house today with 10 or so on the vent. For comparison we had 11 total COVID pts from March through May. I am in Georgia. So hospitalizations are up and deaths are up...and I expect them to rise a good bit in the next few weeks.

You’re in metro Atlanta probably in Fulton, Gwinnett or DeKalb Counties. Just say thanks to the riots. Everywhere else in Georgia is fine.

 

[BigTimeTiger]

until recently 3 bordering South Florida counties, Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach had over half of the cases in the state...until a month or so ago Broward and Miami-Dade had over half the cases by themselves...the 3 still have roughly 81,000 of the 190,000 cases...throw in Orange County which is Orlando and the 4 counties together have right at half of the states cases with 94,000

 

[Taylors_Tiger]

Our hospital is packed. No beds. We have 32+ COVID patients in house today with 10 or so on the vent. For comparison we had 11 total COVID pts from March through May. I am in Georgia. So hospitalizations are up and deaths are up...and I expect them to rise a good bit in the next few weeks.

Same in sc. newberry is about out of beds. Others have had to open floors they haven’t used in years

 

[TigerDO]

You’re in metro Atlanta probably in Fulton, Gwinnett or DeKalb Counties. Just say thanks to the riots. Everywhere else in Georgia is fine.

You're wrong. I'm in south Georgia. Not a large city. And "everywhere else in Georgia" is NOT fine. I assure you of that.

 

[CU1TruTiger4Life]

Pretty simply, it’s hard to know until about 2 weeks from now. The spikes of cases won’t yield as many hospitalizations until people have had the virus long enough for it to become severe, and the number of deaths begins to truly become magnified when hospitalizations ramp up (beds become full, etc.). I would love for this graph to continue its current trend in a couple weeks, but we’ll just have to see.

COT DAM. “2 WEEKS” IS THE NEW OFFICE CATCH PHRASE. “2 WEEKS” FROM NOW CAN KISS MY ASS.

 

[CU1TruTiger4Life]

2019- There were ~650 deaths in South Carolina due to car accidents.
2020- There have been ~780 deaths in South Carolina due to COVID-19.

Why didn’t we ban cars in 2019? LOL

My point is that the overreaction to COVID-19 is unbelievable.

Liberals flame away!

Bruh. Im all for us not being afraid of this. But you are comparing apples and footballs here.

 

[MoonlightGrahamCracker]

Yes, the % of the population infected is increasing. No one is disputing that and it is expected during a pandemic. What of the hospitalization rate? ICU rate, etc? Deaths?

That’s exactly why I was saying we don’t know yet... things are essentially starting to really ramp up in a bunch of southern states (versus NY, which accounted for majority of the cases going on.)

It’s not like you start coughing and then *boom* you’re hospitalized. I’m just looking at rising cases and calling it like I see it... which is that there’s nothing to suggest the amount of optimism some are expressing.

But I’ll say it again... I would love to be wrong.

 

[BigTimeTiger]

You're wrong. I'm in south Georgia. Not a large city. And "everywhere else in Georgia" is NOT fine. I assure you of that.

Savanna Valdosta Columbus Albany and Macon are not small.

 

[ddot7]

All this thread tells me is that no matter what’s happening, there’s a segment of the population that will talk in circles trying to rationalize their opinions on COVID-19 and find a way to manipulate the hell out of data.

Yes, thankfully COVID-19 is not nearly as deadly as originally believed. That’s great, everyone should be happy about that. Previously so many of you were convinced it would never affect SC...well, you were wrong and here you are because y’all thought your freedom (bullshit) was important than wearing masks and social distancing. Now it’s just that it’s not a big deal because of shit like “car accidents over an entire year kill 15%!less people than this has in a few months so why don’t we ban cars too!” Don’t believe the data unless it fits your narrative. Hospitalizations are nothing to worry about, it’s all about how many people die...and they’re all old, they would’ve died anyway. In Jesus’ name, Amen.

I’ll say the same thing I’ve said from the start. Hopefully this doesn’t take many lives in SC (or anywhere for that matter) but man, some of you are not going to believe anything unless you die too.

 

[Taylors_Tiger]

Bruh. Im all for us not being afraid of this. But you are comparing apples and footballs here.

Taylors_TigerThe Mariana Trench
Not to mention he is comparing 12 months to what 4 months of COVID? And we shut economy down for awhile pretty much.
Cars 54 a month
Covid (actually 806 today in sc) 201.5 a month

 

[Solid Orange Blood]

Manipulated data is the reality of our world. It's pathetic that in the information age all we get is a bunch of bullsh*t misinformation with a little truth actually sprinkled in.

 

[TigerDO]

Savanna Valdosta Columbus Albany and Macon are not small.

Not any of those as well but they aren't fine either. Point being hospitalizations outside Atlanta metro are at their highest point yet.

 

[BigTimeTiger]

Not any of those as well but they aren't fine either. Point being hospitalizations outside Atlanta metro are at their highest point yet.

Not worried

 

[TheValley91]

Not worried

Lulz here to ruin another thread? Good to see your graph was useless towards the other posters point. Covid living rent free in ya fella.

 

[TigerDO]

Not worried

Didn't say you should be. But don't spew BS about hospitalizations and everywhere besides major cities being fine. I've worked in hospitals for 10 years and I've never had a summer even close to this busy

 

[Tigerbomb]

Hospitalizations have more than doubled in SC over the last month.

Sheer logic will tell you deaths will also increase, even if the majority of cases are young people.

I don't think we will see massive numbers of death but they will continue to increase as the number of infections rise.

The good news is that it appears most places have made nursing home safety a top priority. No doubt that demographic was really driving the high death numbers.

 

[Taylors_Tiger]

Hospitalizations have more than doubled in SC over the last month.

Sheer logic will tell you deaths will also increase, even if the majority of cases are young people.

I don't think we will see massive numbers of death but they will continue to increase as the number of infections rise.

The good news is that it appears most places have made nursing home safety a top priority. No doubt that demographic was really driving the high death numbers.

Deaths have been around 15-20 last few days. Which is higher than it’s been in awhile

 

[TigerJR]

Bruh. Im all for us not being afraid of this. But you are comparing apples and footballs here.

The liberals and media are being absurd with their comments and reaction. Shutting down the economy, schools, etc. is way more ridiculous than my comment.

 

[TigerJR]

Smh .... look up faulty logic. Also, does it strike you funny at all that you cite a yearlong death statistic and compare it to deaths over basically a third of a year. Not to mention that statistic is already higher over this same shorter period. I wish people would stop cherry-picking data to try and categorize as this something routine, it may not be as bad as some of the original models predicted and only time will tell if the precautions taken were worth it or not, but it does not make the pandemic any less serious and historic.

You be scared, I refuse to be