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Always with the gaslighting and lies M.Obama


Not really gaslighting when Multiple States have tried to pass laws outlawing it. The Southern Baptist Convention has just come out against it as well.

Project 2025 is also against IVF and it was written and developed by people close to or previous employees of Donald Trump.

Requires some nuance and maybe some exageration, but it is fair to suggest that due to his Supreme Court judges those changes are coming to pass.
 
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Not really gaslighting when Multiple States have tried to pass laws outlawing it. The Southern Baptist Convention has just come out against it as well.

Project 2025 is also against IVF and it was written and developed by people close to or previous employees of Donald Trump.

Requires some nuance and maybe some exageration, but it is fair to suggest that due to his Supreme Court judges those changes are coming to pass.

You're cultivating the ground to fit your desired narrative. That's also known as a lie. It's most definitely gaslighting by any measure. His nominees to the court have been all over the place on things. Again, the desire for something to be true doesn't make it true.

The Obamas are masters of the lie. They tell it and make you feel good while they do it if you love them. It's the old backrub while they steal your wallet trick. Just awful stuff and this from people who live a life of the rich and famous by virtue of the fact one of them was in politics for a while. If anything tells us how bad and corrupt our politics have become, it's the Obamas.
 
You're cultivating the ground to fit your desired narrative. That's also known as a lie. It's most definitely gaslighting by any measure. His nominees to the court have been all over the place on things. Again, the desire for something to be true doesn't make it true.

The Obamas are masters of the lie. They tell it and make you feel good while they do it if you love them. It's the old backrub while they steal your wallet trick. Just awful stuff and this from people who live a life of the rich and famous by virtue of the fact one of them was in politics for a while. If anything tells us how bad and corrupt our politics have become, it's the Obamas.

You do realize both of them went to college,became successful lawyers, and also best selling authors?

They did some work to earn that money.

The Obamas are your example of what's bad with politics? Y'all try so hard to demonize them, there are literally 100s or other politicians and some Supreme Court judges who are examples of political corruption, but you choose them
 
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You do realize both of them went to college,became successful lawyers, and also best selling authors?

They did some work to earn that money.

The Obamas are your example of what's bad with politics? Y'all try so hard to demonize them, there are literally 100s or other politicians and some Supreme Court judges who are examples of political corruption, but you choose them
Great role models who pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps and madly in love to boot. We should thank our lucky stars that we have them.
 
Not really gaslighting when Multiple States have tried to pass laws outlawing it. The Southern Baptist Convention has just come out against it as well.

Project 2025 is also against IVF and it was written and developed by people close to or previous employees of Donald Trump.

Requires some nuance and maybe some exageration, but it is fair to suggest that due to his Supreme Court judges those changes are coming to pass.
It's funny that you, and your fellow communist are only ever concerned about the SCOTUS when it does not rule in your favor.

In the words of your leader BHO, "Elections Have Consequences".
 
It's funny that you, and your fellow communist are only ever concerned about the SCOTUS when it does not rule in your favor.

In the words of your leader BHO, "Elections Have Consequences".
You just can't resist insults can you?

I'm concerned about the fact that Thomas has been gifted millions from a GOP lobbyist. Everyone should be concerned about that. We rely on the Supreme Court to be impartial and judge the law. They are the linchpin of our entire democracy.

Fir the record, I don't have any issues with Kavanaugh or Coney Barrett, they seem to be honest and try to apply the law and constitutional history.

Clarence Thomas not so much.
 
You're cultivating the ground to fit your desired narrative. That's also known as a lie. It's most definitely gaslighting by any measure. His nominees to the court have been all over the place on things. Again, the desire for something to be true doesn't make it true.

The Obamas are masters of the lie. They tell it and make you feel good while they do it if you love them. It's the old backrub while they steal your wallet trick. Just awful stuff and this from people who live a life of the rich and famous by virtue of the fact one of them was in politics for a while. If anything tells us how bad and corrupt our politics have become, it's the Obamas.
Seriously, a Trump supporter complaining about lies? REALLY?

FWIW, here, I actually agree. Trump never said that. But PLENTY of folks in his circle do say it. As is pointed out above, there have already been some shifts toward anti IVF from the Republican base. The key here is the belief that life begins at conception.

IF you belief that, it's difficult to support IVF. It is ROUTINE to fertilize more eggs than the parents EVER want to have. It's understood those eggs will be destroyed after the parents confirm they don't want more children. Also, it is routine to implant more eggs than the mother intends to have at once. Once implantation occurs the extra eggs are removed. By definition, that's intentional murder if you believe the above and the parents and everyone involved are complicit.

Ditto for lots of contraceptive methods. IUDs and even the pill work by not allowing a fertilized egg to implant in the uterus.

So it's not unreasonable to take the position the Obamas have here.
 
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