@areeves FEMA emergency broadcast alert

[hopefultiger13]

U

It’s mixed in with the jet fuel. Duh.

Uhhhh... no. Point being that even if it were, it's NOT jet fuel...so you still have the problem of the extra weight. Plus if you are burning these mind control substances at literally thousands of degrees in a jet engine... they would probably get burned up.

 

[areeves]

I may be but, he’s a goober and you’re a judgmental homophobic douche who says horrible things and then lies to themselves claiming it’s what Jesus would do. You’re the worst kind of Christian who makes it hard to real Christians to be friends with people in the world sinning, like Jesus actually did. I’m disrespectful to you because you don’t deserve respect.

I’m not talking about disrespecting me, I’m talking about disrespecting him. You can’t handle the Truth. He confirmed what I’ve been saying & what idiots like you have been refuting & you can’t handle it.

 

[purple2]

U

Uhhhh... no. Point being that even if it were, it's NOT jet fuel...so you still have the problem of the extra weight. Plus if you are burning these mind control substances at literally thousands of degrees in a jet engine... they would probably get burned up.

the world never had wars, crazy people, droughts, or epidemics before jet planes. it's science

 

[Whenry]

Well, the Bible may be an old book, but it’s timeless. The word of God endures forever ( Matt. 24:35 & Isa. 40:8). One day every human being ( even those who mock God or deny God) will stand before Him , and be judged by His word( Rev. 20:11-15 & John 12:48).
Times may change, but God never changes( Mal. 3:6 & Heb. 13:8)

John 3:16

 

[Essolover4]

All Christians black out scripture whenever they like. There are tons of things in the Old Testament that all Christians ignore.

And LOL @ people "becoming" gay. Sweet shit.

I just don't believe that it's my job to judge them. God will judge them. People that rail against homosexuality and try to make their lives miserable are bad people IMO.

You simply lack understanding of the Bible and don't have any real convictions. You have a very nonchalant attitude toward sin and say "live and let live". No all Christians do not black out scripture whenever they like. All true Christians are sinners and struggle with sin in this life that is a fact. However we are called daily to wage war on that sin and never to make peace with it. Of course there are things in the Old Testament that no longer apply to us today. Some of the law was written specifically to Jews, some was ceremonial law, moral law etc. The Law is there to point us to a Savior (Christ) who kept the law perfectly for us. I absolutely believe people become gay. It is not not natural. Read Romans 1 for yourself. You have a problem with the teaching of Paul not me. I am not here to Judge or condemn because if you read the book of Romans it is clear that we are ALL guilty. Thus the need for a savior/redeemer. I am just pointing out that it is a sin and to approve of it (and even perform marriages) from the pulpit is pure evil. It is listed in a list of sins (sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy, drunkards,revilers, and swindlers) in 1 Corinthians of people who will not inherit the kingdom of God. That verse goes on to say "and such were some of you". So we are all guilty of those sin whether in thought, word, or deed. That is why we are called to repent and follow Christ. God saves homosexuals every day (just like all other sinners) and they have some of the most powerful, amazing testimonies. However, he always calls us to stop "practicing" those sins, die to ourselves, and follow the teaching of Christ. If that makes me a lunatic and a nut then so be it. I try my best to live a life pleasing to the Lord (based on what the Word of God says) although I fail a lot. I am not yet who I will be but I am certainly not who I used to be.

 

[scotchtiger]

U

Uhhhh... no. Point being that even if it were, it's NOT jet fuel...so you still have the problem of the extra weight. Plus if you are burning these mind control substances at literally thousands of degrees in a jet engine... they would probably get burned up.

You think the NWO hasn’t accounted for that? They think of everything.

 

[acwill07]

You simply lack understanding of the Bible and don't have any real convictions. You have a very nonchalant attitude toward sin and say "live and let live". No all Christians do not black out scripture whenever they like. All true Christians are sinners and struggle with sin in this life that is a fact. However we are called daily to wage war on that sin and never to make peace with it. Of course there are things in the Old Testament that no longer apply to us today. Some of the law was written specifically to Jews, some was ceremonial law, moral law etc. The Law is there to point us to a Savior (Christ) who kept the law perfectly for us. I absolutely believe people become gay. It is not not natural. Read Romans 1 for yourself. You have a problem with the teaching of Paul not me. I am not here to Judge or condemn because if you read the book of Romans it is clear that we are ALL guilty. Thus the need for a savior/redeemer. I am just pointing out that it is a sin and to approve of it (and even perform marriages) from the pulpit is pure evil. It is listed in a list of sins (sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy, drunkards,revilers, and swindlers) in 1 Corinthians of people who will not inherit the kingdom of God. That verse goes on to say "and such were some of you". So we are all guilty of those sin whether in thought, word, or deed. That is why we are called to repent and follow Christ. God saves homosexuals every day (just like all other sinners) and they have some of the most powerful, amazing testimonies. However, he always calls us to stop "practicing" those sins, die to ourselves, and follow the teaching of Christ. If that makes me a lunatic and a nut then so be it. I try my best to live a life pleasing to the Lord (based on what the Word of God says) although I fail a lot. I am not yet who I will be but I am certainly not who I used to be.

I fully understand the Bible and I'm strong in my convictions, I'm just not one of those Christians who believe it is my job to stand in judgement of my fellow man.

Also anyone who believes homosexuality is a choice is too out there to be reasoned with. Homosexuality has existed in every species of animal, including humans, since the beginning of time. The fact that it isn't "natural" in no way means that it's a choice for people. People are born that way the same way people are born with autism or ADD or Allergies or brown hair.

 

[dpic73]

Well, the Bible may be an old book, but it’s timeless. The word of God endures forever ( Matt. 24:35 & Isa. 40:8). One day every human being ( even those who mock God or deny God) will stand before Him , and be judged by His word( Rev. 20:11-15 & John 12:48).
Times may change, but God never changes( Mal. 3:6 & Heb. 13:8)

John 3:16

Yeah, we've all heard plenty about your old book, including Jesus saying he would return before the end of his generation. Yet he didn't and you conveniently ignore that along with all the other sins, while you focus your righteous condemnation on one particular "sin", simply because it's the one YOU are least likely to commit.

DPIC 3:16

 

[DW4_2016]

Well, the Bible may be an old book, but it’s timeless. The word of God endures forever ( Matt. 24:35 & Isa. 40:8). One day every human being ( even those who mock God or deny God) will stand before Him , and be judged by His word( Rev. 20:11-15 & John 12:48).
Times may change, but God never changes( Mal. 3:6 & Heb. 13:8)

John 3:16

You quoted a fantasy book to prove the book was true. Do you understand the concept of a circular reference?

 

[DW4_2016]

You simply lack understanding of the Bible and don't have any real convictions. You have a very nonchalant attitude toward sin and say "live and let live". No all Christians do not black out scripture whenever they like. All true Christians are sinners and struggle with sin in this life that is a fact. However we are called daily to wage war on that sin and never to make peace with it. Of course there are things in the Old Testament that no longer apply to us today. Some of the law was written specifically to Jews, some was ceremonial law, moral law etc. The Law is there to point us to a Savior (Christ) who kept the law perfectly for us. I absolutely believe people become gay. It is not not natural. Read Romans 1 for yourself. You have a problem with the teaching of Paul not me. I am not here to Judge or condemn because if you read the book of Romans it is clear that we are ALL guilty. Thus the need for a savior/redeemer. I am just pointing out that it is a sin and to approve of it (and even perform marriages) from the pulpit is pure evil. It is listed in a list of sins (sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy, drunkards,revilers, and swindlers) in 1 Corinthians of people who will not inherit the kingdom of God. That verse goes on to say "and such were some of you". So we are all guilty of those sin whether in thought, word, or deed. That is why we are called to repent and follow Christ. God saves homosexuals every day (just like all other sinners) and they have some of the most powerful, amazing testimonies. However, he always calls us to stop "practicing" those sins, die to ourselves, and follow the teaching of Christ. If that makes me a lunatic and a nut then so be it. I try my best to live a life pleasing to the Lord (based on what the Word of God says) although I fail a lot. I am not yet who I will be but I am certainly not who I used to be.

Cool that your Bible has the word homosexual in it. Care to point me to the passage that specifically states homosexual relationships are not allowed? Don’t forget your translations from the Hebrew probably don’t mean what you think they do.

Im sure god appreciates you judging your fellow man for him. No passages about shit like that in the Bible so I guess it’s a free for all.

 

[Essolover4]

I fully understand the Bible and I'm strong in my convictions, I'm just not one of those Christians who believe it is my job to stand in judgement of my fellow man.

Also anyone who believes homosexuality is a choice is too out there to be reasoned with. Homosexuality has existed in every species of animal, including humans, since the beginning of time. The fact that it isn't "natural" in no way means that it's a choice for people. People are born that way the same way people are born with autism or ADD or Allergies or brown hair.

I am not "standing in judgement" I am pointing out that is is clearly a sin according to the Bible. Any sexual relationship outside the context of marriage between a man and a woman is. For the Church or a pastor to approve or encourage that is evil and yeah I have a problem with that and would run from that church as fast as my legs would take me. And sure there are some people who are predisposed to certain sinful lifestyles more than others. But I do not believe everyone who is gay is "born gay".

 

[Whenry]

I fully understand the Bible and I'm strong in my convictions, I'm just not one of those Christians who believe it is my job to stand in judgement of my fellow man.

Also anyone who believes homosexuality is a choice is too out there to be reasoned with. Homosexuality has existed in every species of animal, including humans, since the beginning of time. The fact that it isn't "natural" in no way means that it's a choice for people. People are born that way the same way people are born with autism or ADD or Allergies or brown hair.

Of course it’s been around throughout the history of mankind. So, has lying, stealing, murder, and every other sin. If being born that way was an excuse, God would excuse it. However, the Bible is clear that God doesn’t excuse it. He will redeem it, though, like with any other sin, if the person will repent of it; God will forgive it and give the person victory over the temptation of it. It’s the same for any sin. See 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 

[dpic73]

unnatural am not "standing in judgement" I am pointing out that is is clearly a sin according to the Bible. Any sexual relationship outside the context of marriage between a man and a woman is. For the Church or a pastor to approve or encourage that is evil and yeah I have a problem with that and would run from that church as fast as my legs would take me. And sure there are some people who are predisposed to certain sinful lifestyles more than others. But I do not believe everyone who is gay is "born gay".

How can you know if they're born gay or not unless you were "temporarily" gay and now you're not? The fact is, you know nothing about how innate their sexuality is and you don't care, because believing it's unnatural helps your judgmental cause. Your beliefs mean nothing.

 

[Essolover4]

How can you know if they're born gay or not unless you were "temporarily" gay and now you're not? The fact is, you know nothing about how innate their sexuality is and you don't care, because believing it's unnatural helps your judgmental cause. Your beliefs mean nothing.

I believe what scripture teaches about practicing that lifestyle is true. The authority is scripture not me. Your opinions of my beliefs mean nothing.

 

[dpic73]

I believe what scripture teaches about practicing that lifestyle is true. The authority is scripture not me. Your opinions of my beliefs mean nothing.

Can you point us to the passages that say gay people are just pretending to be gay when they're really straight?

 

[Whenry]

Yeah, we've all heard plenty about your old book, including Jesus saying he would return before the end of his generation. Yet he didn't and you conveniently ignore that along with all the other sins, while you focus your righteous condemnation on one particular "sin", simply because it's the one YOU are least likely to commit.

DPIC 3:16

He didn’t say He’d return before the end of His generation. He said He’d return before the end of the generation who saw the fulfillment of all these things (read vs 33 which precedes the verse you just mentioned). Don’t pluck a verse out of its context. And there’s never been a generation that checks off those prophetic boxes like this present generation. By the way did you know that you are actually fulfilling prophecy ?
Read 2 Peter 3:3-4. Make no mistake, He’s coming back. He wants all of us to be ready to receive Him when He does. He desires all to be saved (1 Timothy 2:4). He shed His blood as an atonement for all who will repent and believe on His death and resurrection ( 1 Tim. 2:6 & 4:10). You can receive Him right now. I did 31 years ago. I’m not trying to win a debate. I just don’t want you to one day die without the eternal salvation that God wants you to have. One second after you die, you’ll wish you had. Please think about it.

 

[areeves]

Well, the Bible may be an old book, but it’s timeless. The word of God endures forever ( Matt. 24:35 & Isa. 40:8). One day every human being ( even those who mock God or deny God) will stand before Him , and be judged by His word( Rev. 20:11-15 & John 12:48).
Times may change, but God never changes( Mal. 3:6 & Heb. 13:8)

John 3:16

Christians are not bound by the Jewish ceremonial laws. Read Colossians Chp 2:16-17 for example. Jesus fulfilled what those ceremonies pointed to. That’s why we don’t sacrifice animals, because all those pointed forward to the cross. Once Christ died on the cross, that was fulfilled. The same is true with the dietary laws, Jewish Sabbath, and various Jewish holy days and festivals. All right there in vs 16-17. Now the moral law is still in play for Christians and the New Testament verifies that in numerous places. Take a look at 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 as a for instance.
Now regarding people being born gay…we’re all broken in some way or another. We’re born with a sin nature. We’re not defined, however, by what tempts us. James 1:14 says each one is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed. You see we all have our own lust. Lust is defined as evil desire. So, we all have certain evil desires we wrestle with. The Bible also teaches that there is overcoming grace (divine enablement) to overcome any sinful proclivity( see 1 Corinthians 6:11 & Rom. 8:13). The Bible unambiguously states in numerous places ( old and New Testament) that homosexuality is a sin. It’s certainly not the only sin, but if you believe the Bible, the fact that it’s a sin is indisputable. It seems that I was born with a bad temper. That’s a dangerous thing to have. Contemporary logic might say that since I was born that way, I should get a pass for acting on it. No sane person would think that way. Thankfully, by God’s grace, my bad temper has been tempered ( except when we lost to Duke, mercy !)So, are there people born with same sex attraction ? I’d say that’s quite possible, even likely, but like any other lust, there’s overcoming grace available from God.

Well said

 

[dpic73]

He didn’t say He’d return before the end of His generation. He said He’d return before the end of the generation who saw the fulfillment of all these things (read vs 33 which precedes the verse you just mentioned). Don’t pluck a verse out of its context. And there’s never been a generation that checks off those prophetic boxes like this present generation. By the way did you know that you are actually fulfilling prophecy ?
Read 2 Peter 3:3-4. Make no mistake, He’s coming back. He wants all of us to be ready to receive Him when He does. He desires all to be saved (1 Timothy 2:4). He shed His blood as an atonement for all who will repent and believe on His death and resurrection ( 1 Tim. 2:6 & 4:10). You can receive Him right now. I did 31 years ago. I’m not trying to win a debate. I just don’t want you to one day die without the eternal salvation that God wants you to have. One second after you die, you’ll wish you had. Please think about it.

When is the end of his generation then? Just let me know and I'll say something that gets me into heaven a few minutes before that. Thanks

PS - I don't care what your beliefs are and I have no interest in mocking you for them....unless you use them to cast judgment against other good human beings who don't behave in the way your old book prescribes. No sin is ranked higher than any other sin but there's only one that conservative Christians focus most of their attention on, because it's the easiest one for them to avoid.

 

[Zero - One]

because these sorry pastors don’t want to lose their 5013c status! It’s all about the Benjamins

Bingo.

Pastors & 501C3

The Local Church falls under the umbrella of the Denomination which regulates and controls the behavior and the message of the Local Pastors within that Denomination. This is how the 501C3 keeps the Local Pastor and Church in line. The Denomination at the Leadership-Elite Level is where the unfamiliar-compromised relationship with the Government initially takes place.

501C3 is ONLY used to attempt to Silence & Control those Pastors/Churches who hold true to uncompromising Biblical teachings and to Conservative and/or Patriotic ideas.

NEVER has 501C3 been used in an attempt to Silence the Marxist, Liberal, Progressive, Anti-Bible Agenda.

Any Pastor/Church having a 501C3 or not, who lives in fear of or submits to the Government or any other authority, including the Church System, over the Authority of Scripture, has become an Enemy of God.

James 4:4 (The Voice Translation) “You are adulterers. Don’t you know that making friends with this corrupt world order is open aggression toward God? So anyone who aligns with this bogus world system is declaring war against the one true God.” Choose your own translation https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James 4:4

 

[Whenry]

You quoted a fantasy book to prove the book was true. Do you understand the concept of a circular reference?

Fantasy books don’t fulfill the prophecies they make. So far the Bible has a perfect record. John 3:19

 

[Whenry]

Well said

Thank you

 

[areeves]

You think the NWO hasn’t accounted for that? They think of everything.

The planes are specially equipped to carry & spray the Chemtrails. The thinly veiled clouds are Chemtrail remnants. When the Chemtrail is being dispensed, it’s a thin white line moving across the sky. The planes are so small, they can barely be seen.

 

[areeves]

Thank you

You’re Welcome

 

[DW4_2016]

Fantasy books don’t fulfill the prophecies they make. So far the Bible has a perfect record. John 3:19

You think there is anything to support every plant was just snapped into existence on the same day? Animals? Terra forming? You think all animals got on one boat for 40 days? You think Jack planted a beanstalk that went into the clouds? You think the tooth fairy will give you a nickel for your baby teeth?

Tell me where you made the delineation.

 

[Zero - One]

I may be but, he’s a goober and you’re a judgmental homophobic douche who says horrible things and then lies to themselves claiming it’s what Jesus would do. You’re the worst kind of Christian who makes it hard to real Christians to be friends with people in the world sinning, like Jesus actually did. I’m disrespectful to you because you don’t deserve respect.

Until now I have not responded to your attacks @CHSWalters

It's amazing how accurate the Bible is about the day in which we are living and the people in it.

1 Timothy 4:1-2 talks about the Hypocritical Liars - those who have given themselves over to deceiving spirits who attack others and accuse them of what they themselves are doing. You are guilty of everything you accuse Areeves of.

What's your story? Did your parents or someone not love you? Abuse you? Rejected you? Throw you away? Abandoned? Did a Church/Pastor do you wrong?

Your hostility and anger is unnatural. It controls you and you strike out at others with anger and hate.

I will pray for you my friend. In Jesus you can find healing and forgiveness for yourself and others and be free of this spirit.

 

[areeves]

The planes are specially equipped to carry & spray the Chemtrails. The thinly veiled clouds are Chemtrail remnants. When the Chemtrail is being dispensed, it’s a thin white line moving across the sky. The planes are so small, they can barely be seen.

Until now I have not responded to your attacks @CHSWalters

It's amazing how accurate the Bible is about the day in which we are living and the people in it.

1 Timothy 4:1-2 talks about the Hypocritical Liars - those who have given themselves over to deceiving spirits who attack others and accuse them of what they themselves are doing. You are guilty of everything you accuse Areeves of.

What's your story? Did your parents or someone not love you? Abuse you? Rejected you? Throw you away? Abandoned? Did a Church/Pastor do you wrong?

Your hostility and anger is unnatural. It controls you and you strike out at others with anger and hate.

I will pray for you my friend. In Jesus you can find healing and forgiveness for yourself and others and be free of this spirit.

amen

 

[acwill07]

I believe what scripture teaches about practicing that lifestyle is true. The authority is scripture not me. Your opinions of my beliefs mean nothing.

No where in scripture does it say being gay is a choice.

 

[clemben]

Amen on that, Brother

This is hilarious. You do realize that it is 'socialist' scary liberals who for decades have said that Big Pharma and the health insurance middlemen industry were a huge problem in this country because they only care about creating profit for themselves and curing things like restless leg syndrome while charging a fortune to citizens. Meanwhile Repubs and many dems were bought by their lobby to convince average americans that 'socialized' medicine is evil even though every other country in the world has figured out a system that works fine and isn't the devil while providing better health outcomes that don't bankrupt people.

Conspiracy theorists and now conservatives love to rail against the global cabal but won't recognize the way that corporations are controlling them and controlling their thoughts in broad daylight.

 

[gotigers24]

Bingo.

Pastors & 501C3

The Local Church falls under the umbrella of the Denomination which regulates and controls the behavior and the message of the Local Pastors within that Denomination. This is how the 501C3 keeps the Local Pastor and Church in line. The Denomination at the Leadership-Elite Level is where the unfamiliar-compromised relationship with the Government initially takes place.

501C3 is ONLY used to attempt to Silence & Control those Pastors/Churches who hold true to uncompromising Biblical teachings and to Conservative and/or Patriotic ideas.

NEVER has 501C3 been used in an attempt to Silence the Marxist, Liberal, Progressive, Anti-Bible Agenda.

Any Pastor/Church having a 501C3 or not, who lives in fear of or submits to the Government or any other authority, including the Church System, over the Authority of Scripture, has become an Enemy of God.

James 4:4 (The Voice Translation) “You are adulterers. Don’t you know that making friends with this corrupt world order is open aggression toward God? So anyone who aligns with this bogus world system is declaring war against the one true God.” Choose your own translation https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James 4:4

What are your thoughts on Chuck Baldwin?

 

[clemben]

I agree.... The government has been seeding clouds for years ... Operation Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye / Motorpool / Intermediary-Compatriot) was a military cloud-seeding project carried out by the U.S. Air Force during the Vietnam War in 1967–1972.

https://www.nytimes.com/1972/07/03/archives/rainmaking-is-used-as-weapon-by-us-cloudseeding-in-indochina-is.html

Yes, cloud seeding exists but it is SUPER expensive and only increases precipitation chances by 10% and even then it often fails to even improve rainfall at all. This isn't a conspiracy--Saudi Arabia has tried this, they budget money for it in Nevada. Silver Iodine is the chemical used that is generally non-toxic to humans unless you work with it in an industrial setting. Adding @areeves here...

They have tried to cloud seed in Dubai for decades--it doesn't do anything lasting. There also haven't been any environmental hazards because of it that have been documented in areas where this has been known to have been done for decades (and if you actually care about the environment and potential hazards that come from releasing chemicals into the environment--enough to like protest or vote or change your politics--let me tell you about COAL and the drilling of natural gas in shale all across the United States, and the levels of toxicity released into the environment--you are going to flip your lid about this conspiracy theory--no wait, you won't because the conservation in conservative died long ago because conservatives only care about businesses and 'free markets' and silly conspiracy theories, rather than a govt conspiring with global corporations to release toxic chemicals that kill hundreds of thousands if not millions a year from harmful pollutants/cancers that are released all to make them obscene amounts of money).

Why should you believe me? I was right about Graphene. lol.

 

[hopefultiger13]

the world never had wars, crazy people, droughts, or epidemics before jet planes. it's science

I don't even know what the hell that means. I'm just pointing out that the logistics of the chem trails thing is simply difficult to overcome from a logical point of view.

Kind of like if you watch a guy hold a hammer stop holding it just as you turn your back. The sound you hear is PROBABLY the hammer falling to the floor, not the ceiling. PLENTY of folks in this thread are already calling their sheetrock guy to patch the hole in the ceiling.

 

[Essolover4]

No where in scripture does it say being gay is a choice.

You are changing the entire subject of the argument. That is a completely separate topic. My original argument was to call out the apostate churches who condone (from the pulpit!) a lifestyle forbidden by holy scripture. Those churches and those pastors will be judged by Christ himself. You really need to take the time to read and meditate on Romans 1. It is not what you or I want the Bible to say........but rather what does it say and teach.

 

[CHSWalters]

Until now I have not responded to your attacks @CHSWalters

It's amazing how accurate the Bible is about the day in which we are living and the people in it.

1 Timothy 4:1-2 talks about the Hypocritical Liars - those who have given themselves over to deceiving spirits who attack others and accuse them of what they themselves are doing. You are guilty of everything you accuse Areeves of.

What's your story? Did your parents or someone not love you? Abuse you? Rejected you? Throw you away? Abandoned? Did a Church/Pastor do you wrong?

Your hostility and anger is unnatural. It controls you and you strike out at others with anger and hate.

I will pray for you my friend. In Jesus you can find healing and forgiveness for yourself and others and be free of this spirit.

Hostility and anger? Lol I’m trolling extreme evangelical boomers who claim they know about the plans of a secret world order and are enlightening the masses on a football forum. If that is anger, then consider me furious.

For such a top agent you definitely need to work on your profiling. I’m married and was lucky to have a great family. Brought up in the church and help lead worship 2/month. So thanks for the prayer buddy, I’ll send some your way. I’m sure you’ll need it, since you’re definitely being monitored for giving away so many super secret secrets. I’ll carry on your legacy when they get you, friend.

 

[yoshi121374]

I am not "standing in judgement" I am pointing out that is is clearly a sin according to the Bible. Any sexual relationship outside the context of marriage between a man and a woman is. For the Church or a pastor to approve or encourage that is evil and yeah I have a problem with that and would run from that church as fast as my legs would take me. And sure there are some people who are predisposed to certain sinful lifestyles more than others. But I do not believe everyone who is gay is "born gay".

Then you have truly never known someone closely who is gay. You would never say such an idiotic clueless thing if you did

 

[dpic73]

You are changing the entire subject of the argument. That is a completely separate topic. My original argument was to call out the apostate churches who condone (from the pulpit!) a lifestyle forbidden by holy scripture. Those churches and those pastors will be judged by Christ himself. You really need to take the time to read and meditate on Romans 1. It is not what you or I want the Bible to say........but rather what does it say and teach.

What a sickening comment. What do you mean by condone?

- Churches who allow gay people to attend?
- Churches who accept people for who they are?
- Churches who don't demonize gay people?

What would Jesus do?

 

[rht7467]

Bingo.

Pastors & 501C3

The Local Church falls under the umbrella of the Denomination which regulates and controls the behavior and the message of the Local Pastors within that Denomination. This is how the 501C3 keeps the Local Pastor and Church in line. The Denomination at the Leadership-Elite Level is where the unfamiliar-compromised relationship with the Government initially takes place.

501C3 is ONLY used to attempt to Silence & Control those Pastors/Churches who hold true to uncompromising Biblical teachings and to Conservative and/or Patriotic ideas.

NEVER has 501C3 been used in an attempt to Silence the Marxist, Liberal, Progressive, Anti-Bible Agenda.

Any Pastor/Church having a 501C3 or not, who lives in fear of or submits to the Government or any other authority, including the Church System, over the Authority of Scripture, has become an Enemy of God.

James 4:4 (The Voice Translation) “You are adulterers. Don’t you know that making friends with this corrupt world order is open aggression toward God? So anyone who aligns with this bogus world system is declaring war against the one true God.” Choose your own translation https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James 4:4

I am really curious how the threat of 501(c)(3) revocation is used to control pastors when churches don't even have to be a 501(c)(3) to qualify for tax exempt treatment (?).

 

[Essolover4]

Then you have truly never known someone closely who is gay. You would never say such an idiotic clueless thing if you did

wrong.

 

[Zero - One]

What are your thoughts on Chuck Baldwin?

I don't follow him close enough to have an educated opinion.

I will say this for any Pastor, Christian; the core beliefs of the Our Faith, that we hold dear to, CHANGED massively over the course of the 1800s and early-mid 1900s, and now again with onslaught of the Marxist Woke Agenda, which it seems the Church System is aligned with and refuse to speak against it.

What we recognize today as Fundamental Christian Beliefs/Doctrine, to our Forefathers in the Faith, they would call us Liberal-Progressive Christians and reject our Doctrines/Theology... and this is even before the Marxist/Woke/LGBTQ+ assault.

I do know understand that Chuck Baldwin has been outspoken about the Zionist Jews and their control over our Nation's Politics, Media, their control over of the Federal Reserve and the Central Banks, etc. I will agree him on this. But what do you do when the US Government and the especially the Evangelical Denominations are aligned with the Zionist Jews, and even calls them God's chosen people. Are they? What does the Bible actually teach? If it does, then I'm fine with that. But a person must take into account the whole counsel of God to find the truth on this and any other subject. If a person does not do their homework, research, pray, discern, and even challenge the official Narrative in Politics, the Media, History, and many times the Church we've grown up in, anyone one of us could be deceive and never know it. Nothing is as it has been presented to us. Christians/Pastors in the Denominational System especially, have to go deeper.

Just some thoughts.

 

[Essolover4]

What a sickening comment. What do you mean by condone?

- Churches who allow gay people to attend?
- Churches who accept people for who they are?
- Churches who don't demonize gay people?

What would Jesus do?

sickening comment? are you a troll? Scripture tells us that when Jesus confronted individuals in sexual sin he offered them forgiveness. He followed that up with "go and sin no more". He certainly did not have a nonchalant attitude towards sin. Quite the opposite. It is always "repent and believe".

 

[acwill07]

You are changing the entire subject of the argument. That is a completely separate topic. My original argument was to call out the apostate churches who condone (from the pulpit!) a lifestyle forbidden by holy scripture. Those churches and those pastors will be judged by Christ himself. You really need to take the time to read and meditate on Romans 1. It is not what you or I want the Bible to say........but rather what does it say and teach.

I'm not changing the argument. You believe that being gay is a choice and I'm saying that's insane. We can agree to disagree I suppose.