NOT OK!
I think this is just another example/proof that we do indeed live in a racist country and critical race theory is not complete fiction.
NOT OK!
There is no proof to that statement. Trump is leading bigly in the primary polls and even if you combined the other candidates he still holds over 50% of the republican votes.
I don't buy the notion that Haley polls better against Biden. The spotlight has not been on her yet and each time the spotlight shines, her star diminishes a little bit. Ramaswamy is picking her apart on the debate stage and runs circles around her on policy.
You're drawing parallels that aren't comparable. And every day is white day so it doesn't need celebration. That comes with being the majority.
You telling me there aren't lots of work parties where only white people are invited? You live in the real world so you know that breaking off into sub-groups is commonly done, but I'm uncomfortable with using company email, company property and taxpayer money to do it.
I wouldn't necessarily call it racist to provide a space for a minority group to gather and socialize but it sure as hell shouldn't be done via company email with a caveat that the email wasnt meant for whites. Ick
We live in a country with racist individuals. These racist individuals increase the volume of their racist behavior affecting all of us.NOT OK!
I think this is just another example/proof that we do indeed live in a racist country and critical race theory is not complete fiction.
The problem is that when racist individuals get together their power to do racist things gets bigger. To use the example at hand, you have a party where white folks can't go. It's being held by a person with power (in this case the mayor of Boston). I'd suggest that there's going to be some business discussed at that party and maybe even some deals made. Since those deals are by definition being made by people that showed up to a whites not allowed event, I doubt that they will be that great for white folks. That's wrong.We live in a country with racist individuals. These racist individuals increase the volume of their racist behavior affecting all of us.
And like any survival instinct, we retreat to what we best know in order:
- our self
- our family
- our community
- our race
- our nation
In the entire animal world, we are one of a few that try and do assimilate. But the racists in the left and right can’t handle it/try to make money and power off of it.
The problem is that when racist individuals get together their power to do racist things gets bigger. To use the example at hand, you have a party where white folks can't go. It's being held by a person with power (in this case the mayor of Boston). I'd suggest that there's going to be some business discussed at that party and maybe even some deals made. Since those deals are by definition being made by people that showed up to a whites not allowed event, I doubt that they will be that great for white folks. That's wrong.
NOW, back to a broader example. Our lawmaking bodies in this country have historically and even into recent times been populated mostly by old white guys. Now these old white guys discuss business and make deals... often without folks of color being involved. Again, there's doubt about whether these deals are great for folks of color. And THAT'S what critical race theory is all about. It's not WOKE or any of this other crap, it's just the theory that laws were made in this country that are to the disadvantage of folks of color.
We can say the “state by state” decision all day. When you have TEXAS telling an already mother of a 2 year old, now pregnant with a terminal condition she can’t have an abortion, it affects EVERYONE coast 2 coast. Endangering the mother and possibly affect future pregnancies? WTF is wrong with you, Texas? Forcing your own citizen to leave the state to address their health issue?
It’s a steady reminder(right or not) that Republicans (and from the 2nd most populated state) do not care about women. It’s atrocious behavior that will lose elections going forward.
If you can vote George Santos out, you can blast off on Texas not caring about women.
The problem is that when racist individuals get together their power to do racist things gets bigger. To use the example at hand, you have a party where white folks can't go. It's being held by a person with power (in this case the mayor of Boston). I'd suggest that there's going to be some business discussed at that party and maybe even some deals made. Since those deals are by definition being made by people that showed up to a whites not allowed event, I doubt that they will be that great for white folks. That's wrong.
NOW, back to a broader example. Our lawmaking bodies in this country have historically and even into recent times been populated mostly by old white guys. Now these old white guys discuss business and make deals... often without folks of color being involved. Again, there's doubt about whether these deals are great for folks of color. And THAT'S what critical race theory is all about. It's not WOKE or any of this other crap, it's just the theory that laws were made in this country that are to the disadvantage of folks of color.
Come on. Don't be obtuse. You seem to smart not to understand the contextual differences.How are they not comparable? Both are examples of calling for genocide for a certain group of people. Both are mayoral led parties specifically discriminating based on race.
Guess I’ll go back to enjoying another white day, whatever the fvck that means.
That is nothing? Really?You try so hard to make something out of nothing.
FWIW, she was asked to host the gathering this year. She didn't personally send out the invitations. And she's a good person and a good mayor and as far removed from being a racist as can be.Now we know that it is a yearly tradition to do a no whitey allowed party, on the governments dollar. And to boot, she thinks it's ok. This is that DEI at work. The "I" stands for inclusion in case you were wondering. Harvard Grad. Embarrassing. Taxations without representation.
This is total garbage. The unfortunate thing is when any group of people want to be special, they create a situation where they will not be equal. Special treatment removes the concept of equal treatment.Come on. Don't be obtuse. You seem to smart not to understand the contextual differences.
As far as white day...have you ever went to a function, club, etc. where you where the only white guy? I have. And it can be involuntarily uncomfortable. Now imagine that happening every day of your life as a minority. Every time you walk in a place it's probable that you're the only one that looks like you.
Being in the majority comes with its perks, so there's nothing wrong with them celebrating accomplishment by a people who are outnumbered and face obstacles by some members of the majority to their success in life.
I am glad that you have decided “she is a good person”.FWIW, she was asked to host the gathering this year. She didn't personally send out the invitations. And she's a good person and a good mayor and as far removed from being a racist as can be.
I've seen her in action. She's on the news quite a lot up here.I am glad that you have decided “she is a good person”.
I don’t doubt that. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.FWIW, she was asked to host the gathering this year. She didn't personally send out the invitations. And she's a good person and a good mayor and as far removed from being a racist as can be.
You're really blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.I don’t doubt that. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
But she should be forced to resign. This is the very definition of racist behavior and the fact that she doesn’t understand that means she is not qualified for the job.
In and of itself, I would agree with you that this is not THAT big of a deal. She has every right to have a no whites party on her own dime, but she does NOT have that right on the governments dime. The government represents WE THE PEOPLE. Not we the White people, or we the Black People. We the people is everyone.You're really blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.
First and foremost she isn't a racist. And nothing will come of it because it isn't as big of a deal as you are making it. She wasn't the one who organized the party and she wasn't the one who sent out the emails.In and of itself, I would agree with you that this is not THAT big of a deal. She has every right to have a no whites party on her own dime, but she does NOT have that right on the governments dime. The government represents WE THE PEOPLE. Not we the White people, or we the Black People. We the people is everyone.
My bigger problem is that this is not an isolated incident. The anti-white racism is gaining steam in this country and its a weird path to say the least. She should not be allowed to keep her job. A "No Racism" policy should be a basic tenant of any public office. In 2023 one would think that would be an obvious, not confrontational statement. Yet, here we have people defending a racist mayor.
So you like her policies and that makes her a good person. I understand thatI've seen her in action. She's on the news quite a lot up here.
She's the mayor of Boston and that certainly isn't an easy job. It's not so much her policies but more her demeanor.So you like her policies and that makes her a good person. I understand that
I have little to no issue with the gathering itself as it stands, historically.I've seen her in action. She's on the news quite a lot up here.
TLDR version: @firefiver is an avowed racist.This is not going to be received well but here goes:
I really don't GAF about minorities in government having a minority only party. Whites have been having whites only parties for far longer in this country. The fact that boomer white males get upset about minorities having minority only parties is exactly why they should keep having them. You aren't invited. You guys talk all the time about 'reverse racism' etc etc. I would agree it could be construed as racist if you are too smooth brained to understand these people's struggle in the USA and what they had to overcome. So let them have their solidarity and try to enjoy your own Christmas instead of poo pooing on others.
What exactly is governing about a holiday party?TLDR version: @firefiver is an avowed racist.
Governing not on laws, not on principles, but feelings.
You're really blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.
And none of those are funded by local countiesAlthough it was a segregated party
White boy me is OK with people having such parties
Like ladies night out
Or mens night out
Or all male golf
or all female bridge club
Its OK to do some of that
Dude, just say that you are ok with racism. The only thing I am doing is pointing out your blatant hypocrisy.What exactly is governing about a holiday party?
Actually, you know what I already know you can't even form a full thought so... its ok if you just keep going acting and behaving the way you do. Accusing me of racism for sympathizing with a group you seem to have trouble understanding the motivations of.
It’s ok to do all of that but not on the governments dime. Government sponsored racism is wrong on every level no matter if it’s racism against white, blacks or purples. Just checking, we fought wars over this, right?Although it was a segregated party
White boy me is OK with people having such parties
Like ladies night out
Or mens night out
Or all male golf
or all female bridge club
Its OK to do some of that
It’s ok to do all of that but not on the governments dime. Government sponsored racism is wrong on every level no matter if it’s racism against white, blacks or purples. Just checking, we fought wars over this, right?
I agree 100%. On your own dime you can do what you want. No argument from me.I will agree that what is done privately and with private money and then with public money constitutes two totally different approaches
Just saying I am OK with people having discrimination or filtering when its not public money
When one is elected or it is public money the approach must be all inclusive
All inclusive means that the government organization needs to be careful of optics
So I hope that explains my position
If the mayor of Boston used public money for the meeting then the money for example should have been approved by her full council lets say as research specific and had a public notice
Still a meeting or even party like that walks a very gray line as mayors meeting with multiple council members even at a private party constitutes a council meeting and must have public notice and minutes published
there are some exceptions but yes I think the mayor made a bad choice
One thing I don't think many people get (not calling you out at all) is that white's make of the majority of the population.Come on. Don't be obtuse. You seem to smart not to understand the contextual differences.
As far as white day...have you ever went to a function, club, etc. where you where the only white guy? I have. And it can be involuntarily uncomfortable. Now imagine that happening every day of your life as a minority. Every time you walk in a place it's probable that you're the only one that looks like you.
Being in the majority comes with its perks, so there's nothing wrong with them celebrating accomplishment by a people who are outnumbered and face obstacles by some members of the majority to their success in life.
I see your point. And maybe DEI has negative effect on some, but imo that's a personal issue if it does. My experience in discussions with many participants of DEI programs is that listening to others point of view and sharing with others that don't look like me, or come from where I'm from, has taught things that I or them hadn't ever thought of or realized. Imo it may not help change some folks, but it can't hurt.One thing I don't think many people get (not calling you out at all) is that white's make of the majority of the population.
from google "As of July 1, 2022, United States Census Bureau estimates that 75.8% of the US population were white alone, while Non-Hispanic whites were 59.3% of the population"
This means that the probability of a white person being in the majority at parties, in congress, in leadership positions etc. is just way higher than any other race/color. The DEI movement wants to equalize things for people of color and other ways that they identify themselves (transgender, non-binary etc.), but the math just doesn't hold up given that you have will have a much larger percentage of the population being in position to get jobs, be leaders etc. Statistics and probabilities play a large role in this. Once you start promoting/hiring based on color/how someone identifies, you can certainly narrow the percentages of "white" people in certain areas, but then you are discriminating against whites if they are more qualified.
There have certainly been more opportunities for whites due to color in the past and there is still a glass ceiling for women in the workplace, but this gap has been shrinking on its own. My personal opinion is that DEI divides us even more......