Brittney Griner detained in Russia
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How?
What actually does Brittney do on a daily basis that effects the way you eat, sleep, or shit?
We should be concerned about a gah damn American, no matter their beliefs, returning home to their loved ones.
If an athlete is going to be a political partisan, they then they deserve partisanship. That said, I don’t actually care about her. I’m certainly not going to be upset about her getting arrested or not.
Thanks for making my point.
Why don’t you ask the family of the officer that was killed when it took place? Or maybe ask the officer who had to shoot someone to prevent a mob from entering the house chamber?
Left 👏 or 👏 right 👏 she’s 👏 an 👏American 👏 being 👏 held 👏 by 👏 an 👏 enemy 👏 under 👏 false 👏 pretenses.
Not everything is about partisanship. Christ.
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I really can’t imagine having that username and typing out a whole post with the clapping emojis.
We have enough stupid citizens here in our country...if she TRULY did this...do the time!
Oh you’re talking about the cop that died from an aneurysm that fake news reported as being hit with a fire extinguisher? And the unarmed veteran that was shot through a glass that was no personal threat to the murderer that killed her?
Even the lying news sources have had to admit these facts. You’re one of the snowflakes that won’t know how to get out of the rain when the storm really arrives. Leave Brittney in Russia and see if she will stand in place for their national anthem. Enjoying her freedom I’m sure!
Am I the only one who can read this thread and see each post for exactly what it is without assuming there’s more feeling behind it than what there is.
I guess I’m the only one capable of seeing both sides to a reasonable extent.
I guess I’m the only one capable of seeing both sides to a reasonable extent.
I was just joking around, moderately stupidly. I didn’t know people felt so strongly about her. I’m sure they’d really appreciate my thoughts on the US women’s soccer team…
Fair. I’ll be honest with you and tell you that I don’t even know who this person is. Through this thread, I have to deduced that she is a professional women’s basketball player who partakes in hashish and lives a lesbian lifestyle.
Two of those things can get you in trouble in Russia.
I don’t believe in going to another country and breaking their loss. I also don’t believe in turning a blind eye to someone arrested illegitimately here or abroad.
I do think it’s both ironic and a little bit funny when someone who has felt the need to protest their own country while also having no problem getting paid by other countries with far worse human rights track records, finds themselves in a position to need that terrible country they protested. (Also the irony of not caring about the people in sweatshops putting the latest model of your shoe together so that you can become even more rich at their expense. Lebron.)
I’m also wondering why anybody cares what pro athletes think to begin with.
But back to the topic at hand, I hope that she is not being abused. But no more so than I would hope that for anyone being held in prison. I’m not sure how the laws work, but I know that I don’t ever feel like I’m capable of breaking the law in another country with no consequences just because I’m an American. What makes her any different?
Lmao, hyperbole much?? As if you really believe these people were attempting to overthrow our government? A bunch of unarmed people trespassing who found an unlocked door with no weapons and no demands and zero possibility of taking over that one building ( among hundreds of fed buildings) hardly qualifies as a coup attempt doofus.
if that's what they choose to do. She was just exercising one of America's greatest attributes in freedom of choice.
Yes. Evidently they do.
Again, the ideas and knuckle dragging idiocy you are espousing in this thread are objectively unamerican.
Someone who doesn't "come on the court for the national anthem" isn't an American? Because of that action?
What you are describing and pining for is authoritarianism.
And, of course, if that’s what they choose to do, others are free to dislike them for the choices they’ve made. Political liberalism can’t be a recipe for amoral legalism.
Griner also practices a strange form of progressivism, considering she keeps playing for people who officially disapprove of her sexual behavior. First the Baptists, now the Russians. Another funny thing about her is that she bravely disrespects the US while also bravely saying nothing about Russia’s much more apparent right wing authoritarianism. Now it looks like she was bravely using drugs in Russia and taking them through the airport. All of that amounts to understable hypocrisy and even more understandable venal cowardice.
I’m not really sure why this kind of thing doesn’t bother liberals more, since it brings up an irony in liberalism: all you have to do to prevent dissent is prohibit it, while toleration apparently leads to somebody not even being able to stomach showing respect to a country’s symbols.
Now, to be more serious, if she was illegally detained and held, then of course the US ought to intervene to help her get home. My initial posts in this thread weren’t very serious or thoughtful. But now that I have thought about it, I find Griner more obnoxious than I did before… but clearly deserving of the rights whose guarantee she doesn’t respect.
@dbjork6317 supports President depends aka hair sniffer. lol
Man it seems there is no idle ground anymore.
These are my beliefs - which I think will mean everyone in this thread will hate me.
-I hate her stance against the national anthem. It changed my opinion of her.
- I whole heartedly support her right to take that stance and despite my disagreement with it I would fight for her to retain that right.
- firmly oppose Russia holding a US citizen as a token pawn of war - if that’s what they are doing.
- I also acknowledge and accept that Russia has very harsh and well established anti drug laws and violating those laws justifies punishment.
These are my beliefs - which I think will mean everyone in this thread will hate me.
-I hate her stance against the national anthem. It changed my opinion of her.
- I whole heartedly support her right to take that stance and despite my disagreement with it I would fight for her to retain that right.
- firmly oppose Russia holding a US citizen as a token pawn of war - if that’s what they are doing.
- I also acknowledge and accept that Russia has very harsh and well established anti drug laws and violating those laws justifies punishment.
I might be giving them too much credit, but quite a few liberals discovered how stupid they and their ideas are ITT.
You can thank athletes politicizing sports for the loss of “idle ground.”
Why?
As an athlete due they forfeit their right to an opinion?
I can hate their opinion and appreciate their talent. Of course at times if they push their opinion too far it can turn me off from enjoying their entertainment.
One of my favorite musicians was polar opposite of me politically and even when it crept into his music I could ignore or skip a song or two an album …however it became so pervasive i no longer go see him in concert or buy his latest releases. I disagree with him vehemently - but I don’t wish harm on him.
same thing with BG here.
No, they’re hating on Griner for the content of her speech. It may be the case that Griner has the right to be anti-American. But this idea that the essence of Americanism is actually anti-Americanism is absurd. Valuing things like the first amendment is why you continue to honor the symbols of the country when there are things going that you don’t like.
At any rate, there’s a problem, or an instability in a kind of liberalism that touts opposition to its own regime as the essence of its regime.
They weren't unarmed. Court evidence now shows that many of the oathkeepers were actually armed.
Why don't we all just say those who were trying to illegally stop the electoral college count, violating the constitution, which by extension was intended to allow an unelected leader to stay in power?
Legally it was SEDITION since someone pled guilty to it already.
No, but if they choose to politicize their profession, then they’ll inevitably face political opposition. It goes hand in hand with their activism.
No, that's not it at all. When someone protests American values while being completely ignorant of why those American values are so cherished by so many, and then that same person gets to experience the exact thing that they thought they wanted but really didn't, due to said ignorance, it takes a special kind of retard to not be amused.
You should check out Ricky Gervais's speech at whatever award show he spoke at a few years back. He was addressing actors, but his words equally apply to pro athletes.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction!! That Newton guy knew his stuff!!
No one, or at least certainly not I, is saying that the essense of Americanism is anti-Americanism. I’m saying that the right to express your views, positive or negative as they relate to the policies or activities of your country and the conditions normalized therein, is fundamentally American. So having a problem with things in fact doesn’t make her unAmerican.
I’m not suggesting everyone should agree with her or like her. I have no dog in that fight. She could, as you say, suck. They’re two different things.
But most importantly, and why I originally started posting in this thread, is party affiliation should not have a bearing on whether or not we take exception to illegal action against one of our own by a foreign (and unfriendly) country.
Disrespect the flag my fore father's fought and died and sacrificed fortune for.
Nah
She can't rot in a Russian jail cell.
Yah **** Americans that don't agree with me. Let's hate them more than Putin. In fact let's claim a dictator that wants nothing more than to see the complete failure of our country and its people.... Is better than an American citizen who's protest hurt my feeeelings.
