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California Secessionist Movement

This thread scares me for the future of the US. Lots of different opinions in this country, and his because they dont agree with you doesn't mean they are wrong. I didn't vote for Trump and dont agree with lots of what he wants to do, but I'm not going to cry about it and leave the country. I'm going to keep working, supporting my family, and trying to make this a better place. I certainly dont want California or any other state to secede. We also need the victory speech Trump bringing people together not the election speech Trump playing them against each other. Just my opinion though.
I agree with what you posted, but this is just the typical knee-jerk, stream-of-consciousness social media reaction that plagues our society today. Just like Pokemon Go and planking, this'll all blow over in a few weeks.
 
i hope trump is smart enough to plug

Catherine Cortez Masto to head the Immigration Policy to get these law abiding, god fearing, hard working hispanics who have adopted the core values and principles that made america great.

she would be perfect. kills 2 birds with one toss.
 
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I guess that is why towns in California have been going bankrupt. Or is it because the state taxes are so high for welfare programs, people are paying more state taxes.
it is becausee they have more state welfare programs than they can afford... doesn't change the fact they are a net payer of federal monies.
 

i love the idea of replacing those huge agricultural complexes with more local smaller farms with a more diverse product range.

gives america much more flexibility to adapt to climate change or even technological or human changes.

these supply lines of commerce especially ones that utilize natural resources as a high priority integral circuit of the output definitely need to rethink for security measures.
 
i love the idea of replacing those huge agricultural complexes with more local smaller farms with a more diverse product range.

gives america much more flexibility to adapt to climate change or even technological or human changes.

these supply lines of commerce especially ones that utilize natural resources as a high priority integral circuit of the output definitely need to rethink for security measures.

This is actually a really good point. A lot of problems get solved by diversifying our eating habits at home. For example, buying fresh fruits in the winter that had to get transported half-way across the world.
 
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Some have said that California should be split into 3 states as the interest of those regions are too diverse and cannot be managed together in 2016.

There were actually discussions several years back about splitting Cali into different states.

But if my memory serves me, it was more than 3 areas. I want to say 5 or 7, but could be wrong.

Talks had reached the Legislative level in their state houses.
 
All of these protests and threats are because the polling and media got it wrong. The rug was pulled out from under people who voted for Hillary on election day, they all thought there was no chance she would lose because that's what we were all being told. Normally one side has time to prepare for the loss but this was so unexpected. Things will calm down soon. Protesting every single little thing you don't like is getting old though. People need to find some hobbies or jobs.
 
This is actually a really good point. A lot of problems get solved by diversifying our eating habits at home. For example, buying fresh fruits in the winter that had to get transported half-way across the world.

exactly- politicians makes mountains out of mole hills

instead of using almonds, which is creating a huge water issue, we should use hazelnuts, or pecans.

eating resource smart instead of whats fashionable
 
I guess since they are the only States to have been independent nations (CA only briefly as Golden Bear Republic) they have some rights the rest of us don't. I'm pretty sure that the right to secede was prohibited after the Cicil War, albeit by force. It wasn't addressed in law or constitution originally, therefore it should have been legal. But "might" prevailed.
 
government control of the means of production... sounds like socialism. :)
Well since many of these companies are getting huge subsidies from the gov't....indirectly we're already doing that unfortunately.

Heck we forced farmers to rip up their crops and replace corn fields for more money to help support ethanol and lessen our dependence on oil which has been an utter failure.
 
im assuming the only product americans beyond california's borders would be there wine. but we still got kentucky and tennessee proudly standing up as patriots against the globalist agenda.
You realize the spike in bourbon and Tenn whiskey prices is due to the consumption by the Asian markets and other areas? I wish there were more for us! ha!
 
6th largest economy, or so they say. And they pay more into federal taxes than they get back, so could probably figure out a way to survive.

A lot of that is due to Chinese labor and West Coast ports acting as a gateway to sell to the rest of the US fwiw. Include Seattle in that too. People take the impact of ports for granted a lot.
 
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Movies would be much less entertaining if all the actors were executed - there's always HeeHaw reruns

Yea I really don't give a shit #1, and #2 please, ANYONE with 1/2 a brain, which most of them only have 1/2, could be an "actor". Its not difficult. You don't need all that much training. Heck the Rock is awesome and he was a freaking wrestler and football player. How many sports personalities or comics have become actors?

The truth is they only hire liberals and shove them down America's throats because they want them to have a voice because they know their politics.
 
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Yea I really don't give a shit #1, and #2 please, ANYONE with 1/2 a brain, which most of them only have 1/2, could be an "actor". Its not difficult. You don't need all that much training. Heck the Rock is awesome and he was a freaking wrestler and football player. How many sports personalities or comics have become actors?

The truth is they only hire liberals and shove them down America's throats because they want them to have a voice because they know their politics.

Bo Derek is a conservative.
 
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There were actually discussions several years back about splitting Cali into different states.

But if my memory serves me, it was more than 3 areas. I want to say 5 or 7, but could be wrong.

Talks had reached the Legislative level in their state houses.


Yep- the point kinda being that a lot of California wants to get rid of those that would be talkin seccession right now.
 
I'm ok with it if it's just the area left of the line.
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I say let them secede. Like mentioned above, 55 electoral votes would be gone and that would change the senate and the congress make up.

After they leave, lets have Hillary work out the trade deal with Trump and see how that works.
 
It has become increasingly clear that the tyrant Lincolns War to force the South back in the Union was a horrible, horrible mistake.
The culture differences between the secular humanist north, who worship at the foot of big government, and the Christian South, have never been more clear.
The language has changed somewhat, but the culture differences that have plagued us from the very beginning have never changed.
Now, the northeastern secular humanists promote their culture of death on the unborn, promote cradle to grave care by their great god of a government, deny the most basic truths of God's creation in the most obvious human sexuality ,and do everything possible to deny God himself.
The South still generally seeks to honor God, to protect life, to promote self reliance and the rle of law.

The world views are irreconcilable.
As it turns out, the South was Right! We should have been free to peacefully separate.

Anyone who tries to turn this into a discussion about slavery or racism is just proving the exyent to which they are brainwashed. Don't even think abiut going there.
Our cultures cannot be reconciled.

Why don't we just realize it, shake hands, and peacefully separate?

The north and west coast can have all the open borders, socialist or communist government they want, murder all the babies they want, and be happy in in.
And we will maintain a God honoring, life honoring Constitutional Republic.

And when they want to come South to enjoy our weather, our beautiful beaches, fantastic football, beautiful women and prosperous culture, we can meet them at the border with a smile and say, "passport please? Y'all come back now, ya hear?"
 
The issue with California is freshwater.

We can just charge them the proper cost for water or they can go the desalinization route.

Nothing like a good water war.
 
It has become increasingly clear that the tyrant Lincolns War to force the South back in the Union was a horrible, horrible mistake.
The culture differences between the secular humanist north, who worship at the foot of big government, and the Christian South, have never been more clear.
The language has changed somewhat, but the culture differences that have plagued us from the very beginning have never changed.
Now, the northeastern secular humanists promote their culture of death on the unborn, promote cradle to grave care by their great god of a government, deny the most basic truths of God's creation in the most obvious human sexuality ,and do everything possible to deny God himself.
The South still generally seeks to honor God, to protect life, to promote self reliance and the rle of law.

The world views are irreconcilable.
As it turns out, the South was Right! We should have been free to peacefully separate.

Anyone who tries to turn this into a discussion about slavery or racism is just proving the exyent to which they are brainwashed. Don't even think abiut going there.
Our cultures cannot be reconciled.

Why don't we just realize it, shake hands, and peacefully separate?

The north and west coast can have all the open borders, socialist or communist government they want, murder all the babies they want, and be happy in in.
And we will maintain a God honoring, life honoring Constitutional Republic.

And when they want to come South to enjoy our weather, our beautiful beaches, fantastic football, beautiful women and prosperous culture, we can meet them at the border with a smile and say, "passport please? Y'all come back now, ya hear?"
the idea that the south is christian and the north is secular is misguided and factually incorrect.

red states receive more federal subsidies per capita than blue states.

I do not submit conservative political movements honor god more than liberal movements, although I lean slightly conservative.
 
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