Good grief.....
When do we bulldoze Charleston?
It was partly a joke man....A school decides to change something on a logo that they are ashamed of. Want to get far away from it. I'm not sure why anyone would care. Unless they replace it with something hideous why the complaint? The actual idea of removing something that no longer represents who you are seems like a good idea
They changed the logo in April....
It was partly a joke man....
But in all seriousness it wouldn't shock me if my Charleston comment came true and they came after a bunch of the cities historical names. The very name Charleston is named after King Charles II of England. King Charles II was in control when the Royal African Company was created and he granted the charter for it which pillaged gold, silver, and traded slaves from Africa. His younger brother King James II was in charge of running it. The slaves arrived to the new world with RAC branded on their chests. RAC traded slaves for over 70 years.
Should we rename Charleston?
BTW... the answer to that question is NO we should not. Just pointing out that people could absolutely go after that as well. A large portion of the city's history and naming conventions could be attacked.
It was partly a joke man....
But in all seriousness it wouldn't shock me if my Charleston comment came true and they came after a bunch of the cities historical names. The very name Charleston is named after King Charles II of England. King Charles II was in control when the Royal African Company was created and he granted the charter for it which pillaged gold, silver, and traded slaves from Africa. His younger brother King James II was in charge of running it. The slaves arrived to the new world with RAC branded on their chests. RAC traded slaves for over 70 years.
Should we rename Charleston?
BTW... the answer to that question is NO we should not. Just pointing out that people could absolutely go after that as well. A large portion of the city's history and naming conventions could be attacked.
Actually it was King Charles I but point made.South Carolina is also named after Charles II (Carolus in Latin). Let’s change the state name!!!!
South Carolina is also named after Charles II (Carolus in Latin). Let’s change the state name!!!!
Look up the naming of New York. Dude made his money from slave trade.It was partly a joke man....
But in all seriousness it wouldn't shock me if my Charleston comment came true and they came after a bunch of the cities historical names. The very name Charleston is named after King Charles II of England. King Charles II was in control when the Royal African Company was created and he granted the charter for it which pillaged gold, silver, and traded slaves from Africa. His younger brother King James II was in charge of running it. The slaves arrived to the new world with RAC branded on their chests. RAC traded slaves for over 70 years.
Should we rename Charleston?
BTW... the answer to that question is NO we should not. Just pointing out that people could absolutely go after that as well. A large portion of the city's history and naming conventions could be attacked.
And again in June as wellThey changed the logo in April....
It was partly a joke man....
But in all seriousness it wouldn't shock me if my Charleston comment came true and they came after a bunch of the cities historical names. The very name Charleston is named after King Charles II of England. King Charles II was in control when the Royal African Company was created and he granted the charter for it which pillaged gold, silver, and traded slaves from Africa. His younger brother King James II was in charge of running it. The slaves arrived to the new world with RAC branded on their chests. RAC traded slaves for over 70 years.
Should we rename Charleston?
BTW... the answer to that question is NO we should not. Just pointing out that people could absolutely go after that as well. A large portion of the city's history and naming conventions could be attacked.
Just curious on your opinion as to what the differences are between Calhoun Honors College and Clemson? There wouldn't be a hue and cry about Clemson because he was less of a racist than John C Calhoun? Or is it because there's so much good water under the bridge with the name Clemson it overrides his racist slave-owning past? Not trying to Flame just honestly curious what you thinkI'll be fighting alongside you when the nonsense comes.
It just struck me that way because schools change logos just to look cooler. Some idiots may come for the name Charleston or even Clemson. I just wouldn't miss then up with the same people that came for Tillman or Calhoun. Plenty of people that came for Tillman or Calhoun won't be coming for Clemson. Not everyone is stupid. Don't let the people that are stupid turn you off.
Just curious on your opinion as to what the differences are between Calhoun Honors College and Clemson? There wouldn't be a hue and cry about Clemson because he was less of a racist than John C Calhoun? Or is it because there's so much good water under the bridge with the name Clemson it overrides his racist slave-owning past? Not trying to Flame just honestly curious what you think
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.Look up the naming of New York. Dude made his money from slave trade.
I'll be fighting alongside you when the nonsense comes.
It just struck me that way because schools change logos just to look cooler. Some idiots may come for the name Charleston or even Clemson. I just wouldn't miss then up with the same people that came for Tillman or Calhoun. Plenty of people that came for Tillman or Calhoun won't be coming for Clemson. Not everyone is stupid. Don't let the people that are stupid turn you off.
Solid advice here...just like how not all cops are bad, or all white people are racist. Don't let the few that are turn you into a criminal.
When does JFK become a target since he deemed John C. Calhoun one of the greatest Congressman to Live?
When does JFK become a target since he deemed John C. Calhoun one of the greatest Congressman to Live?
When does JFK become a target since he deemed John C. Calhoun one of the greatest Congressman to Live?
In your opinion is some of this canceling going way over the top or is it about in line with the way it should be?No disrespect to you because you might just be joking but people are seriously asking dumb ass questions like this. Well what about so and so he once went to dinner with Ben Tillman and called him a nice guy. Should we cancel him too. People like that are not looking for solutions or compromise.
In your opinion is some of this canceling going way over the top or is it about in line with the way it should be?
Agreed if they changed the name Clemson it would have a massive Financial impact on the University. That's a considerationI've heard over the top suggestions like changing the name of the university or the name of the state.
Good grief.....
When do we bulldoze Charleston?
It will be just the States and ChazA big push to rename the United States to just States has taken place.... Pretty sure this is where we are headed.
I just don't think slave ownership is enough.
Agreed if they changed the name Clemson it would have a massive Financial impact on the University. That's a consideration
Very level headed. Thomas Green Clemson was a very well educated, well travel man that left quiet an impressive legacy. Doing just a small amount of research, I don't come away thinking "slave owner" as a description of him.
Below is a bio from Clemson's website. Very long but very interesting. A name that jumped out at me was Bill Greenlee. Turns out he is a legendary figure around Clemson as well. I'm guessing there's a relation to DJ. If so, DJ is the ultimate legacy offer and Thomas Clemson would have probably given him a scholarship to.
https://www.clemson.edu/about/history/bios/thomas-g-clemson.html
That’s nobody’s businessJust in case anyone has forgotten, Istanbul was Constantinople.
Absolutely. He was a friend to black folks. That's just a fact. I'll defend him against any nonsense.
Because it’s absurd! Where will it end. It’s funny, because every single time I’ve seen that uva logo, I’ve thought of slavery. Smdh. It’s giving in to something that isn’t hurting anyone, so these ridiculous requests will continue. It’s wasteful as well. Liberal BS is all it is.A school decides to change something on a logo that they are ashamed of. Want to get far away from it. I'm not sure why anyone would care. Unless they replace it with something hideous why the complaint? The actual idea of removing something that no longer represents who you are seems like a good idea
Because it’s absurd! Where will it end. It’s funny, because every single time I’ve seen that uva logo, I’ve thought of slavery. Smdh. It’s giving in to something that isn’t hurting anyone, so these ridiculous requests will continue. It’s wasteful as well. Liberal BS is all it is.