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Changing their logo again

No disrespect to you because you might just be joking but people are seriously asking dumb ass questions like this. Well what about so and so he once went to dinner with Ben Tillman and called him a nice guy. Should we cancel him too. People like that are not looking for solutions or compromise.

It was more of a joke but it has some relevance as well. JFK was the champion of civil rights, or was he? Would it change your perception of him as a President, Person or Democrat? Here is a little reading to understand that it is a relevant question.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jfks-civil-rights-legacy_b_4290163
 
It was more of a joke but it has some relevance as well. JFK was the champion of civil rights, or was he? Would it change your perception of him as a President, Person or Democrat? Here is a little reading to understand that it is a relevant question.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jfks-civil-rights-legacy_b_4290163

I'm not gonna pretend like I read that. I'm not going down the rabbit hole that people are trying to turn this stuff into. At the moment I see momentum from actual real life movements trying to go after JFK I'll decide if I want to go any further. Right now people are just doing their whole slippery slope thing where cats marry dogs. Not even gonna waste my time.
 
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Honestly there will be a lot of changing going on fairly soon. I mentioned we are heading for a civil war, now I have heard two or three prominent guests mention this on conservative radio, Glenn Beck Show, Rush, and/or Sean Hannity. Of course we are already seeing this now. Seattle is just the beginning. I have to start building up my armory.
 
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A big push to rename the United States to just States has taken place.... Pretty sure this is where we are headed.
The ISA. Independent States of America.

Except we wouldn't still be "America" because Amerigo Vespucci owned slaves.


Vespucci wrote his will in April 1511. He left most of his modest estate, including five household slaves, to his wife. His clothes, books, and navigational equipment were left to his nephew Giovanni Vespucci.
 
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Honestly there will be a lot of changing going on fairly soon. I mentioned we are heading for a civil war, now I have heard two or three prominent guests mention this on conservative radio, Glenn Beck Show, Rush, and/or Sean Hannity. Of course we are already seeing this now. Seattle is just the beginning. I have to start building up my armory.
Unfortunately, I think you might be right. I’m seriously starting to get a tad nervous. I predicted this could possibly occur back when we were shut in around April. Now, combined with the BLM movement, and people are upset and frustrated from different angles. Add in the police problem and it’s a recipe for civil war. Who in the world would want to be a cop right now when you could go to jail for doing your job? People may laugh and think it’s crazy, but we are becoming more divided in this country by the day.
 
So strange. They ‘updated’ it a few months ago. But it wasn’t offensive then.
 
You sound upset tho that they are changing a logo when logos literally have changed simply because they think it will be cooler with kids. This is not example of things going too far. We should walk right by this one. We've surpassed this. This shouldn't even be mentioned as a concern. We're literally removing statues and names from buildings. Things that never happen. That's a conversation. People can miss me if they are actually serious about a logo that is literally meaningless enough that they can change it every few years and no one would care. C'mon.
I can see why posters are leaving. This board has turned into a liberal support group, lol. You clearly didn’t read the article the OP pasted. UVA didn’t change their logo because it was more popular with kids, smh.

You, and many others don’t get the big picture problem with doing this. You clearly think it’ll stop here, but it won’t. Making a change like this sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Changes that will only continue to divide our country more and more.

This will be my last post for a good while, if not the rest of my time on TI, assuming I keep my subscription. It’s not fun anymore to participate on this board or even read it, over the last year or so.
 
I can see why posters are leaving. This board has turned into a liberal support group, lol. You clearly didn’t read the article the OP pasted. UVA didn’t change their logo because it was more popular with kids, smh.

You, and many others don’t get the big picture problem with doing this. You clearly think it’ll stop here, but it won’t. Making a change like this sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Changes that will only continue to divide our country more and more.

This will be my last post for a good while, if not the rest of my time on TI, assuming I keep my subscription. It’s not fun anymore to participate on this board or even read it, over the last year or so.

I bet I checked TI 20x a day not even a year ago. Now I’ll generally check in two or three times a day. It’s a shell of what it use to be. It’s become depressing. The personal attacks and politics are terrible for this setting.

I don’t care who you vote for. I don’t care what your feelings are.

if I wanted that environment, I’d create a Twitter or Facebook account.
 
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I bet I checked TI 20x a day not even a year ago. Now I’ll generally check in two or three times a day. It’s a shell of what it use to be. It’s become depressing. The personal attacks and politics are terrible for this setting.

I don’t care who you vote for. I don’t care what your feelings are.

if I wanted that environment, I’d create a Twitter or Facebook account.
Agreed. This site has turned into people trying to convince other people that they're right. I've fallen into that and it's stress-inducing and unenjoyable to say the least. Time for a break, maybe permanently
 
I can see why posters are leaving. This board has turned into a liberal support group, lol. You clearly didn’t read the article the OP pasted. UVA didn’t change their logo because it was more popular with kids, smh.

You, and many others don’t get the big picture problem with doing this. You clearly think it’ll stop here, but it won’t. Making a change like this sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Changes that will only continue to divide our country more and more.

This will be my last post for a good while, if not the rest of my time on TI, assuming I keep my subscription. It’s not fun anymore to participate on this board or even read it, over the last year or so.

Don't blame that guy - blame post #2 of this thread that apparently takes great offense to the straightening of a handle inside a graphic!

If you are going take such umbrage at something so minor, you need to be prepared for people disagreeing with you. @TigerLion06 even seems to indicate he would agree with you regarding more major, unreasonable changes. Not being OK with a relatively minor disagreement is the true definition of "snowflake". I think your bigger problem with his post seems to be that he doesn't share your worldview- but, really, that's sort of a you problem.
 
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Actually it was King Charles I but point made.
North Carolina and South Carolina were named after him. The name Carolus which stemmed "Carolina" as we know today is latin for Charles. In 1632 he granted a licence to a syndicate of traders that gave them royal approval to transport enslaved Africans from Guinea.
ACTUALLY, it was Charles 2 who chartered the formation of the colony at Carolina.
Charles 1 had been long decapitated as result of civil war with Cromwell.
The 8 Lord’s proprietors who had the original grants to the colony were political friends of Charles 2 who had worked to overthrow the Cromwell government and restore Charles 2 to the throne.

But that’s all just picky details. We gonna change all the names anyway. Maybe we could license CHAZ from the kids that now call themselves CHOP. they aren’t using Chaz anymore and it at least sounds like Charles a bit.
 
I can see why posters are leaving. This board has turned into a liberal support group, lol. You clearly didn’t read the article the OP pasted. UVA didn’t change their logo because it was more popular with kids, smh.

You, and many others don’t get the big picture problem with doing this. You clearly think it’ll stop here, but it won’t. Making a change like this sets a dangerous precedent for the future. Changes that will only continue to divide our country more and more.

This will be my last post for a good while, if not the rest of my time on TI, assuming I keep my subscription. It’s not fun anymore to participate on this board or even read it, over the last year or so.

You clearly need help with your reading comprehension.

Logos are something people change because kids like it or trying to make it look cooler. Sports team update their logo all the time. I'm not concerned about something that trivial. Building names, statues, etc. that's worth discussing. No one said uva changed the logo because of kids. People get so rattled because their sensibilities are challenged that they can't read a simple post. So since you can't read, the rest of your comments to me are irrelevant so no need to address the rest of what you said. You were not describing me. But if you followed me on the board you'd know I'm not anything you said.

And it's funny. Since I've been on the board there has been a slight shift in some of these areas we've discussed, still many more people that think like you are on the board. You can't even handle that. You're ready to leave the board and your opinion on these issues is still the majority. How did you become so fragile? I think the popular word was snowflake. Imagine having an opinion in the minority all your life and having to deal with that. I can see how the few voices on this board can scare you away. Or you can just not read the threads involving the things that harm you. The great gentlemen and many great posters provide a ton of great content and other great threads. No need to run away. Smh. These are tough discussions. I've learned a lot in many of them. Maybe TI should come up with a rating system to warn posters when discussions might be tough. This thread is rated R and is only for MATURE audiences.
 
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Don't blame that guy - blame post #2 of this thread that apparently takes great offense to the straightening of a handle inside a graphic!

If you are going take such umbrage at something so minor, you need to be prepared for people disagreeing with you. @TigerLion06 even seems to indicate he would agree with you regarding more major, unreasonable changes. Not being OK with a relatively minor disagreement is the true definition of "snowflake". I think your bigger problem with his post seems to be that he doesn't share your worldview- but, really, that's sort of a you problem.

Thank you!
You are so spot on with what I actually said and meant. Clearly stated I was willing to have the conversation about statues and buildings but not worth it on things they change like underwear regularly.

It's sad how people can't even exist having the minority opinion. These threads are still such a small part of the board but you still have people whining. If you are feeling like the board is somehow unbearable because of a few threads that challenge your world view you might want to check yourself. I'm almost speechless that people are so weak. His opinion is literally still the majority and he and others are ready to tap out.

I appreciate those of you that have been more open to discussion about these issues and those who were always ready to at least discuss. This minor shift on the board, minor, has been enough to expose how fragile some of us are.
 
im actually ok with closing many colleges.

a lot of this problem we currently have originated from colleges.

plus we can put more money into infrastructure and national defense if we cut the education spending.

im for like a 50% cut in federal spending on education. lets return the power back to the localities and states to run their schools as they see fit.

we need something new, this current system is destroying the whole reason the american revolution was fought.
 
im actually ok with closing many colleges.

a lot of this problem we currently have originated from colleges.

plus we can put more money into infrastructure and national defense if we cut the education spending.

im for like a 50% cut in federal spending on education. lets return the power back to the localities and states to run their schools as they see fit.

we need something new, this current system is destroying the whole reason the american revolution was fought.
If you turn the “power back to the states” to run colleges and drop any federal assistance for financial aid, you will only have colleges for the wealthy. That will do a lot for wealth inequality! What % of Clemson’s budget comes from the state of South Carolina?

I was able to attend and graduate from college thanks to the financial assistance of California. My tuition and fees at UCLA cost $600 a year. That is not the case anymore in California or anywhere. The federal government provides federal loans that help kids attend college and improve their chances of living a life outside of poverty.

You think that if the federal government ends its support of colleges that South Carolina’s government will step in to fill the void? If so, you are nuts.

And to suggest that a lot of the nation’s problems are due to colleges is simply ignorant.
 
If you turn the “power back to the states” to run colleges and drop any federal assistance for financial aid, you will only have colleges for the wealthy. That will do a lot for wealth inequality! What % of Clemson’s budget comes from the state of South Carolina?

I was able to attend and graduate from college thanks to the financial assistance of California. My tuition and fees at UCLA cost $600 a year. That is not the case anymore in California or anywhere. The federal government provides federal loans that help kids attend college and improve their chances of living a life outside of poverty.

You think that if the federal government ends its support of colleges that South Carolina’s government will step in to fill the void? If so, you are nuts.

And to suggest that a lot of the nation’s problems are due to colleges is simply ignorant.

I just think in our society that more high school graduates should attend trade schools than attend college.

the amount of jobs for college graduates versus supply from financial aid is not cost productive or doesn't seem to be.

we need more electricians, plumbers, masons, and the sorts.
 
@kgwillison

what I mean is that if only 15% of the jobs in America need a college degree, then we only need to make sure 15% of the high school graduates get degrees.

the rest need to find their own paths to success. going in debt to the federal govt for a worthless degree is not a good financial situation for the individual.
 
Wasn't the LOTTO supposed to relieve the burden of students and provide education dollars? Where is that money? Just another tax that is mismanaged at all levels.
 
@kgwillison

what I mean is that if only 15% of the jobs in America need a college degree, then we only need to make sure 15% of the high school graduates get degrees.

the rest need to find their own paths to success. going in debt to the federal govt for a worthless degree is not a good financial situation for the individual.
I don’t disagree although to suggest only 15% of people need a college degree is too low. And it is not the fault of colleges that people choose to go to 4 year colleges vs trade schools.

I imagine you line up with Democrats who favor free community college which might provide an incentive for more people to go that route. Do you think that Clemson and other public colleges should dramatically increase admission standards so that fewer students are admitted? That is, only the finest students would be admitted to anything except a community college?

We would be more like Germany in that case.

I think all of this is worthy of discussion but it isn’t as easy as blaming colleges for the nation’s problems. A much bigger issue is that young Americans don’t want to use their hands for working (on the whole). That is why construction jobs - while relatively well paid - are often dominated by immigrants who are willing to do manual labor.
 
I don’t disagree although to suggest only 15% of people need a college degree is too low. And it is not the fault of colleges that people choose to go to 4 year colleges vs trade schools.

I imagine you line up with Democrats who favor free community college which might provide an incentive for more people to go that route. Do you think that Clemson and other public colleges should dramatically increase admission standards so that fewer students are admitted? That is, only the finest students would be admitted to anything except a community college?

We would be more like Germany in that case.

I think all of this is worthy of discussion but it isn’t as easy as blaming colleges for the nation’s problems. A much bigger issue is that young Americans don’t want to use their hands for working (on the whole). That is why construction jobs - while relatively well paid - are often dominated by immigrants who are willing to do manual labor.

the simple fix is to fix the income curve

make the entry level wage a living wage, then dump all govt welfare and food stamps so people with a job don't need "assistance" from the taxpayers

just include that "assistance" in the wages skipping the govt.

for those who refuse to work but want taxpayers to feed cloth and shelter them need mental health assistance.
 
I don’t disagree although to suggest only 15% of people need a college degree is too low. And it is not the fault of colleges that people choose to go to 4 year colleges vs trade schools.

I imagine you line up with Democrats who favor free community college which might provide an incentive for more people to go that route. Do you think that Clemson and other public colleges should dramatically increase admission standards so that fewer students are admitted? That is, only the finest students would be admitted to anything except a community college?

We would be more like Germany in that case.

I think all of this is worthy of discussion but it isn’t as easy as blaming colleges for the nation’s problems. A much bigger issue is that young Americans don’t want to use their hands for working (on the whole). That is why construction jobs - while relatively well paid - are often dominated by immigrants who are willing to do manual labor.

seems like Clemson should buy tri county tec

and sell the college of arts

can a school sell off a college if it is no longer profitable?
 
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