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Yawn. The boy is crying wolf again.

So just to recap...

Hunter Biden's company received money from china. He repaid his father $4K from a company account while his father held no political office.

trump received ~$8MM from china WHILE HE WAS SERVING AS PRESIDENT.

And your opinion is, biden should be impeached and trump has nothing wrong?
 
So just to recap...

Hunter Biden's company received money from china. He repaid his father $4K from a company account while his father held no political office.

trump received ~$8MM from china WHILE HE WAS SERVING AS PRESIDENT.

And your opinion is, biden should be impeached and trump has nothing wrong?
Can you point to where i said Biden should be impeached?
 
Do you think biden should be impeached?
I don't really know tbh. I haven't followed that whole storyline that closely. Biden is an incompetent putz no matter if he sold our country out or not. He is not the one calling the shots so it doesn't really matter to me if he is impeached or not.
 
I don't really know tbh. I haven't followed that whole storyline that closely. Biden is an incompetent putz no matter if he sold our country out or not. He is not the one calling the shots so it doesn't really matter to me if he is impeached or not.

Well, the GOP, at the request of trump, is moving forward with impeachment inquiry based on that $4K payment that Hunter Biden's company made to Joe when Joe was a private citizen. They say it proves that Joe is corrupt and in China's pocket.

That is why it is interesting that trump himself profited $8MM from china when he was president.

Now you are caught up.
 
Well, the GOP, at the request of trump, is moving forward with impeachment inquiry based on that $4K payment that Hunter Biden's company made to Joe when Joe was a private citizen. They say it proves that Joe is corrupt and in China's pocket.

That is why it is interesting that trump himself profited $8MM from china when he was president.

Now you are caught up.
Trump is the only President to leave office with a net worth lower than when he took office.
 
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Trump is the only President to leave office with a net worth lower than when he took office.

Yea, right. trump said he was worth $10B when running for president, so I guess if you use that calculation, then he did.

As for other presidents, they did write books while in office and make lots of money. They did not receive money from countries like china.
 
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I got as far as "house democrats" .

If you see proof that trump received $8MM from china and other foriegn governments while, do think he should president again? We already know he had a bank account in china while president.

If not, I assume you will be against the GOP's current Biden impeachment plans?
 
So just to recap...

Hunter Biden's company received money from china. He repaid his father $4K from a company account while his father held no political office.

trump received ~$8MM from china WHILE HE WAS SERVING AS PRESIDENT.

And your opinion is, biden should be impeached and trump has nothing wrong?
The sad part of this is that you actually think that the answer should not be YES. But that's the REAL answer here. I take a report generated by the opposition (either side of the aisle) with a HUGE grain of salt.

BUT IF this report was 100% accurate. Trump would not lose a single vote while his supporters would still be all in on impeaching Biden for the same thing. That's just the way it is. Donald Trump is above any law as far as his supporters are concerned.

To his supporters, I ask the same question I always do... IF this turned out to be true is there even ONE person that currently supports him that would stop supporting him over this?
 
Inflation.

Inflation is still way above the Fed target of 2%.
LMAO, he gets no credit for it coming down faster than all other G7 countries? 3.1% is a damn good figure compared to where we were and he did it without a recession. Jobs added, GDP soaring and a cushy soft landing. Cry more!

Again, the Big Lie of the 2024 election season will be "the economy is bad" but it's just not true.
 
LMAO, he gets no credit for it coming down faster than all other G7 countries? 3.1% is a damn good figure compared to where we were and he did it without a recession. Jobs added, GDP soaring and a cushy soft landing. Cry more!

Again, the Big Lie of the 2024 election season will be "the economy is bad" but it's just not true.
You are really stupid if you think inflation is under control. Turn msnbc off and go to the store.
 
You are really stupid if you think inflation is under control. Turn msnbc off and go to the store.
Do you think your dumb ass understands what's going on with economy in the macro sense? Do you not understand that 3.1% is almost back to normal levels? Or how about we bring it back down to your level - how much are you paying for a carton of eggs?

 
Do you think your dumb ass understands what's going on with economy in the macro sense? Do you not understand that 3.1% is almost back to normal levels? Or how about we bring it back down to your level - how much are you paying for a carton of eggs?

First of all, inflation is theft. You steal from the responsible savers and in the end there are no winners with inflation with the exception of maybe the uber wealthy.

The Feds stated inflation rate has always been 2%. Moving this to the current 3% may not seem like a big deal, but it is actually a huge deal. The long term ramifications of moving the Feds target rate from 2-3% are massive, it would be a huge gamble.

This is a large reason of why polls are returning negative on the economy despite the stock market being at all time highs. Inflation is hitting people harder than what the statistics reflect. It's hitting them at the grocery store, housing, and other categories that have an actual affect on their daily lives.
 
First of all, inflation is theft. You steal from the responsible savers and in the end there are no winners with inflation with the exception of maybe the uber wealthy.

The Feds stated inflation rate has always been 2%. Moving this to the current 3% may not seem like a big deal, but it is actually a huge deal. The long term ramifications of moving the Feds target rate from 2-3% are massive, it would be a huge gamble.

This is a large reason of why polls are returning negative on the economy despite the stock market being at all time highs. Inflation is hitting people harder than what the statistics reflect. It's hitting them at the grocery store, housing, and other categories that have an actual affect on their daily lives.
Derp, do you understand what "going down" means(no pun)? 3.1% was for November but that number isn't static. C'mon man, you're being intentionally dumb here. It is on a downward projection and signs point to it continuing, so can you not be a little bit happy that it's down from it's peak of 9% in June of 22?

The pain points right now are related to interest rates if you're looking to buy a home or auto, but they are also coming down fast by over a point and a half since October. The Fed has also signaled there will be three rate cuts coming in 2024 and a by product of that optimism has the stock market reaching record highs. The polls are not turning more negative but they are negative simply due to messaging and the "vibe" that things aren't good - but they are by any measure if you look at the raw numbers. I know you know this but keep on keeping on with your tired propaganda.
 
Trump had existing business all over the world actually building stuff and providing services before he became potus. That business continued while he was in office run by his kids you fricking liberal nimwits. There is no comparison between the Trump and Biden situations.
 
Derp, do you understand what "going down" means(no pun)? 3.1% was for November but that number isn't static. C'mon man, you're being intentionally dumb here. It is on a downward projection and signs point to it continuing, so can you not be a little bit happy that it's down from it's peak of 9% in June of 22?

The pain points right now are related to interest rates if you're looking to buy a home or auto, but they are also coming down fast by over a point and a half since October. The Fed has also signaled there will be three rate cuts coming in 2024 and a by product of that optimism has the stock market reaching record highs. The polls are not turning more negative but they are negative simply due to messaging and the "vibe" that things aren't good - but they are by any measure if you look at the raw numbers. I know you know this but keep on keeping on with your tired propaganda.


No way around it. Going from a target rate of 2% inflation to the current 3% is a huge deal and it is stealing from responsible Americans.

Say whatever you need to say, but if the Fed officially moves the goal from 2 to 3% inflation will rage and Joe won’t stand a chance of re election.

He is going to be in quite the predicament this year. The market is anticipating 3-4 rate cuts to prime the economy before the election. If the market doesn’t respond, Joe will rightfully take the blame.

Remember Trump had the economy humming without any inflation so it can be done.
 
No way around it. Going from a target rate of 2% inflation to the current 3% is a huge deal and it is stealing from responsible Americans.

Say whatever you need to say, but if the Fed officially moves the goal from 2 to 3% inflation will rage and Joe won’t stand a chance of re election.

He is going to be in quite the predicament this year. The market is anticipating 3-4 rate cuts to prime the economy before the election. If the market doesn’t respond, Joe will rightfully take the blame.

Remember Trump had the economy humming without any inflation so it can be done.
"If" the Fed moves the target you say, which makes no sense because they have been clear they are slavishly dedicated to bringing inflation down to 2%, even though that's an arbitrary number and has only been a target since about 2012. There's is no economic law that says that's the magic number but nonetheless, all their moves are based on hitting that mark.

Remember Trump's economy didn't come without a cost - a cost of 2 trillion dollars to be exact...
 
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No way around it. Going from a target rate of 2% inflation to the current 3% is a huge deal and it is stealing from responsible Americans.

Say whatever you need to say, but if the Fed officially moves the goal from 2 to 3% inflation will rage and Joe won’t stand a chance of re election.

He is going to be in quite the predicament this year. The market is anticipating 3-4 rate cuts to prime the economy before the election. If the market doesn’t respond, Joe will rightfully take the blame.

Remember Trump had the economy humming without any inflation so it can be done.

2020 was humming with no inflation you say?
 
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Trump had existing business all over the world actually building stuff and providing services before he became potus. That business continued while he was in office run by his kids you fricking liberal nimwits. There is no comparison between the Trump and Biden situations.

so trump and his kids are allowed to do business with china.

biden's kids are not allowed to.
 
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No way around it. Going from a target rate of 2% inflation to the current 3% is a huge deal and it is stealing from responsible Americans.

Say whatever you need to say, but if the Fed officially moves the goal from 2 to 3% inflation will rage and Joe won’t stand a chance of re election.

He is going to be in quite the predicament this year. The market is anticipating 3-4 rate cuts to prime the economy before the election. If the market doesn’t respond, Joe will rightfully take the blame.

Remember Trump had the economy humming without any inflation so it can be done.

What kills me is that you state this without acknowledging that we had a global pandemic which shut down the economies of most of the world. That is what lead to massive inflation as businesses started to reopen.

Are you so blinded and stubborn with your dedication to Trump that you can't acknowledge that the US economy is rebounding much faster than expected, and much better than the rest of the world?

I am not a huge Biden fan, but I think it's fair to acknowledge that the economy is trending very positively.
 
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No way around it. Going from a target rate of 2% inflation to the current 3% is a huge deal and it is stealing from responsible Americans.

Say whatever you need to say, but if the Fed officially moves the goal from 2 to 3% inflation will rage and Joe won’t stand a chance of re election.

He is going to be in quite the predicament this year. The market is anticipating 3-4 rate cuts to prime the economy before the election. If the market doesn’t respond, Joe will rightfully take the blame.

Remember Trump had the economy humming without any inflation so it can be done.
I think you mean Obama had the economy humming and the trend simply continued under Trump.
 
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I think you mean Obama had the economy humming and the trend simply continued under Trump.

Come on now... the streets were on fire, the economy was terrible, and there were no jobs until the day trump took office. Then magically, everything was perfect. It was all about keeping america great.
 
I think you mean Obama had the economy humming and the trend simply continued under Trump.
Obama did have the economy humming but there was a massive ceiling on the growth rate. We were stuck at a growth rate of about 2 % and Obama said that was about as good as it was going to get.

Trump was elected and we immediately got up to 4% growth before Covid hit.

Obama did a good job, but there were too many regulations strangling the economy during his tenure.
 
Obama did have the economy humming but there was a massive ceiling on the growth rate. We were stuck at a growth rate of about 2 % and Obama said that was about as good as it was going to get.

Trump was elected and we immediately got up to 4% growth before Covid hit.

Obama did a good job, but there were too many regulations strangling the economy during his tenure.
Bullshit on Trump's GDP and in hindsight it looks like Obama had it right with a similar GDP. Without those Trump tax cuts that we didn't need, we wouldn't have added $2 trillion to the deficit.

Here’s a look at annual U.S. GDP growth during Trump’s presidency. The 2020 estimate comes from the Federal Reserve:
  • 2017: +2.3%
  • 2018: +3%
  • 2019: +2.2%
  • 2020: -3.7%
 
Bullshit on Trump's GDP and in hindsight it looks like Obama had it right with a similar GDP. Without those Trump tax cuts that we didn't need, we wouldn't have added $2 trillion to the deficit.

Here’s a look at annual U.S. GDP growth during Trump’s presidency. The 2020 estimate comes from the Federal Reserve:
  • 2017: +2.3%
  • 2018: +3%
  • 2019: +2.2%
  • 2020: -3.7%

100% chance @fatpiggy comes back with some BS about how the numbers are bias against trump, and the real numbers are much larger.
 
Bullshit on Trump's GDP and in hindsight it looks like Obama had it right with a similar GDP. Without those Trump tax cuts that we didn't need, we wouldn't have added $2 trillion to the deficit.

Here’s a look at annual U.S. GDP growth during Trump’s presidency. The 2020 estimate comes from the Federal Reserve:
  • 2017: +2.3%
  • 2018: +3%
  • 2019: +2.2%
  • 2020: -3.7%
Dude... Don't you know those are Deep State/Fake News numbers. TRUMP says we had 4% plus. THOSE are the real numbers. I personally used the BEA.gov, but what do I know?
 
100% chance @fatpiggy comes back with some BS about how the numbers are bias against trump, and the real numbers are much larger.
Yeah... funny how that happens. Best case I can think of was good ole Growlz telling us how the CDC death rate for COVID was biased in favor of COVID by USING other CDC death rate numbers to prove his point. Good stuff.
 
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