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I’m really not sure what the difference is between a “MAGA Republican” & a mainstream Republican is? Maybe “MAGA Republicans” are a little more vocal but the agendas should be the same…
If someone is a mainstream Republican yet is supporting Biden, they were never a Republican in the first place…
Integrity? Believes in math?
 
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Based on his posts, there's no way he could afford to live in Greenville proper. My money is on Cowpens.
Look we have one of those guys

My crypto portfolio alone made me enough money just last week to buy almost any house in North Main, so your little stupid theory is laughable. Chances are I make significantly more than you
 
I’m not the one crying about name calling because I’m not a crybaby you fvcking idiot

I know I call people names and sling mud. Some people aren’t capable of of introspection though. And they all seem to be on one side of the political spectrum, which is telling
We aren't crying, we're mocking you for being a primitive, single-celled, MAGA fluffer.

We know you're bad news, glad to see you recognize it too.
 
Look we have one of those guys

My crypto portfolio alone made me enough money just last week to buy almost any house in North Main, so your little stupid theory is laughable. Chances are I make significantly more than you
How can that be? You're not doing better due to Biden's policies remember? Unless you're telling me you could buy all of N.Main under Trump - derp .
 
This x100000000000000.

@jakefest - come on, man. Do better.

Al Gore conceded and certified his own loss to Bush.

Hillary conceded her loss to Trump. She did not pressure VP Biden to use alternate electors from swing states. She did not call the SOS in swing states and ask them to find her votes. She did not hold a rally the day of the certification and tell her supporters to "fight like hell or you wan't have a country anymore." Dems did not go down to the capitol and start beating cops with American flags.

And before you come back with your normal "uhhhh derp deeeeeerrrrrrppp what about BLM protests???"

Less than 10% of those protests turned into riots. Of those that did, 14K+ arrests were made.
Less than 10% of those protests caused billions in damages to entire cities and govt buildings and more than 2000 police were injured during the BLM riots but you keep spinning. Out of those 14k people, were any held for 19 months without bail and tried as domestic terrorists or is that only for conservatives? You don't even have to answer, I'll do it for you.......it's no. But hey.....social justice am I right?

Your boy Biden was on TV doing his best to kick off a Civil war last night but sure, Trump's messaging was anti democracy. Meanwhile, the country continues to suffer under poor policy and reckless spending but he thought it was better to label 70 + million people as the enemy and not talk to any of those issues. I've never seen someone more desperate for votes then that guy.

But derp derp derp .........
 
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Says a cockroach named JoeBidenSniffsKids, who hates minorities and advocates for Civil War. It's quite telling that you dismiss the daily despicable lies of your MAGA King while mocking the TRUTH about your ideology.

50% my ass. There are plenty of good Republicans that want nothing to do with that traitor.

Okay, but see I do not see how this works. If someone votes with the republicans ticket in the next election they will automatically be labeled as supporting MAGA. Am I wrong on that, or what else would they be called? I’m genuinely curious and not provoking anything, but if someone aligns with conservative values over progressive, are they ever not going to be called MAGA going forward? I just don’t see that happening, not in November, 2024, or beyond that
 
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Okay, but see I do not see how this works. If someone votes with the republicans ticket in the next election they will automatically be labeled as supporting MAGA. Am I wrong on that, or what else would they be called? I’m genuinely curious and not provoking anything, but if someone aligns with conservative values over progressive, are they ever not going to be called MAGA going forward? I just don’t see that happening, not in November, 2024, or beyond that
I see your point but I don't believe conservative values are the same thing as MAGA values. If conservatives really want to make a stand, they won't defend him now and they won't support him in the primary(assuming anyone would run against him). If he wins the nomination anyway, I could understand why a consevative might hold their nose and pull that lever. The key would be keeping it from getting to that point.
 
Your boy Biden was on TV doing his best to kick off a Civil war last night but sure, Trump's messaging was anti democracy. Meanwhile, the country continues to suffer under poor policy and reckless spending but he thought it was better to label 70 + million people as the enemy and not talk to any of those issues. I've never seen someone more desperate for votes then that guy.

But derp derp derp .........
What was Trump trying to kick off?

 
I see your point but I don't believe conservative values are the same thing as MAGA values. If conservatives really want to make a stand, they won't defend him now and they won't support him in the primary(assuming anyone would run against him). If he wins the nomination anyway, I could understand why a consevative might hold their nose and pull that lever. The key would be keeping it from getting to that point.
I respect that. So if Desantis were the nominee he, and anyone that votes for him, isn’t MAGA? I still just don’t see that happening, large part due to the media, nothing you or I can change. It just is what it is
 
I respect that. So if Desantis were the nominee he, and anyone that votes for him, isn’t MAGA? I still just don’t see that happening, large part due to the media, nothing you or I can change. It just is what it is
Errgh, that's nauseating as well, haha. As a Democrat, I don't see DeSantis as a good alternative to Trump because he's smarter and even more of an authoritarian, if that's possible. I guess I'll just never understand why Republicans fall all over themselves to pick the guy who owns the libs the best. It suggests that attacking people they hate is their number one priority for a candidate, and that's just going to keep the hatred and divisiveness flowing. Makes no sense to me but we know that's who the nominee will be, if it isn't Trump. My hope is that people will be so tired of people with his hostile temperament that he'll get blown out as well. I don't think America could withstand another dictator style leader that revels in making his opponents squirm for another four years. Makes me sick to think about ha

Edit: I don't think that answered your question but in my mind Desantis is MAGA in a different form. I don't know if I would have gone that far before he started supporting election denying candidates in the last couple weeks, but that says he doesn't care about right and wrong in my mind, so yeah..... ugh
 
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Get back to me when AOC fools a majority of Democrats into believing the election was stolen, enraging them into rabid traitors willing to scale the walls of the Capitol screaming Hang Kamala Harris and electing representatives solely for their willingness to say the election was stolen.

Until then, none of your kindergarten-level whataboutisms rise to that level. When the fook wil
Dems claimed 2000, 2008, and 2016 was stolen. There was riots and protest in 2000 and 2016. In fact protesters showed up at electors homes and blocked the Capital building to prevent them from casting their votes and tried to intimidate them to changing their vote for Hillary. They also broke into the capital when the Kavanaugh hearings were going on to disrupt the senate from doing its business. On May 29, 2020 leftist had an insurrection when they broke onto White House grounds and attack police and Secret Service injuring dozens of them and setting a building on the White House grounds on fire and set a good bit of DC on fire. Last time DC looked like that the Brits burned it. POTUS was moved to the bunker for his protection. Not to mention the insurrections in places like Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland. Just this short list dwarfs anything the right has done...
 
You may be a law abiding citizen but you slavishly support someone who isn't.
You call it declaring war, he considers it shining the light on cockroaches.
Trump spent every day of his Presidency slandering Democrats - the bill is coming due.


This has already proven to be an abject lie. Kansas, an unquestionably ruby red state voted to uphold abortion rights statewide - the exact opposite of what you and your moronic , unhinged, lunatic, detached from realty, hate filled, idiots knew for certain was going to happen.
You just can't help yourself. It's like you completely ignore actual facts and events and just make up your own reality. Are there extreme views on the right? Of course there are. Just like there are extreme views on the left. Should I put up some quotes from some squad members and profess all democrats hate jews and are socialists?
 
Errgh, that's nauseating as well, haha. As a Democrat, I don't see DeSantis as a good alternative to Trump because he's smarter and even more of an authoritarian, if that's possible. I guess I'll just never understand why Republicans fall all over themselves to pick the guy who owns the libs the best. It suggests that attacking people they hate is their number one priority for a candidate, and that's just going to keep the hatred and divisiveness flowing. Makes no sense to me but we know that's who the nominee will be, if it isn't Trump. My hope is that people will be so tired of people with his hostile temperament that he'll get blown out as well. I don't think America could withstand another dictator style leader that revels in making his opponents squirm for another four years. Makes me sick to think about ha

Edit: I don't think that answered your question but in my mind Desantis is MAGA in a different form. I don't know if I would have gone that far before he started supporting election denying candidates in the last couple weeks, but that says he doesn't care about right and wrong in my mind, so yeah..... ugh
So basically, you are saying we are going to nominate Biden- you know the guy who just attacked the people he hates on national TV as the potus.
 
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This has already proven to be an abject lie. Kansas, an unquestionably ruby red state voted to uphold abortion rights statewide - the exact opposite of what you and your moronic , unhinged, lunatic, detached from realty, hate filled, idiots knew for certain was going to happen.
You just can't help yourself. It's like you completely ignore actual facts and events and just make up your own reality. Are there extreme views on the right? Of course there are. Just like there are extreme views on the left. Should I put up some quotes from some squad members and profess all democrats hate jews and are socialists?
You're a joke. You really think I'm going to waste any more of my Friday night on your screwball logic?

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Dems claimed 2000, 2008, and 2016 was stolen. There was riots and protest in 2000 and 2016. In fact protesters showed up at electors homes and blocked the Capital building to prevent them from casting their votes and tried to intimidate them to changing their vote for Hillary. They also broke into the capital when the Kavanaugh hearings were going on to disrupt the senate from doing its business. On May 29, 2020 leftist had an insurrection when they broke onto White House grounds and attack police and Secret Service injuring dozens of them and setting a building on the White House grounds on fire and set a good bit of DC on fire. Last time DC looked like that the Brits burned it. POTUS was moved to the bunker for his protection. Not to mention the insurrections in places like Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland. Just this short list dwarfs anything the right has were these supposed riots

Dems claimed 2000, 2008, and 2016 was stolen. There was riots and protest in 2000 and 2016. In fact protesters showed up at electors homes and blocked the Capital building to prevent them from casting their votes and tried to intimidate them to changing their vote for Hillary. They also broke into the capital when the Kavanaugh hearings were going on to disrupt the senate from doing its business. On May 29, 2020 leftist had an insurrection when they broke onto White House grounds and attack police and Secret Service injuring dozens of them and setting a building on the White House grounds on fire and set a good bit of DC on fire. Last time DC looked like that the Brits burned it. POTUS was moved to the bunker for his protection. Not to mention the insurrections in places like Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland. Just this short list dwarfs anything the right has done...
 
Thats was Cuban voters that got pissed when Gore tried to block their vote from being counted. He also filed to block the overseas military vote in FL. Cubans were also upset with Clinton-Gore over Elian Gonzalez after the feds went in guns up in tactical gear and trucks and forced the family at gunpoint to give him up so they could deport the kid back to Castro after his mom died getting him here...

 
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to be fair he was talking about MAGA republicans, not all republicans. the majority of the people on this forum that are decried as "liberals" are actually republicans who don't support the MAGA BS that has permeated the GOP since 2016.

i think calling out the MAGA movement for what it is was a good move, and i hope it opens up more of the mainstream GOP voters and politicians to help try and purge this loony ass movement from their ranks.
MAGA is the current dominant voice in the republican party and that's a fact no matter what anyone wants to talk into existence.
 
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I see your point but I don't believe conservative values are the same thing as MAGA values. If conservatives really want to make a stand, they won't defend him now and they won't support him in the primary(assuming anyone would run against him). If he wins the nomination anyway, I could understand why a consevative might hold their nose and pull that lever. The key would be keeping it from getting to that point.
But it doesn't matter.......anyone that isn't enthralled with the mess that Biden has created is going to vote the opposite come 2024 (or whoever the left decides to nominate). It's the same as half the board admitting they voted blue because Trump was the one on the ticket in 2020. That doesn't necessarily mean anyone likes Trump, it means they like the alternative less which is how you explained the massive turnout for Biden in 2020.......

So the question is a good one. If Trump is the candidate in 2024, does everyone get labeled a Maga domestic terrorist if they vote for him?

This is the same point that I made in regards to the 2016 election in that the left didn't find a candidate that could win. The right is going to nominate who they think can actually win the election, sometimes that's not the best option but the most popular option. TBD to see how much popularity Trump has between now and then.
 
What was Trump trying to kick off?

"some of them, not all of them" ............We didn't get that clarity from Biden until the day after when he claimed he never said what he said.

Can you imagine the blowback if Trump had done a similar speech to Biden the other night? Dark setting with red lighting......good lord the country would have melted down with Hitler comments.

Personally, any president that alienates it's citizens in sweeping statements is in the wrong. When you're elected, you have to accept you support the entire country, not just those that voted for you. It's why I think Politics is too hyper focused on party line and potentially too far gone to come back.

Executive orders are the hallmark of a broken democracy and each of the last several presidents uses EO's to avoid democracy. It's why the nation is seeing radical flips from right to left, back to right when the party in control changes. It's costly for tax payers and bad for the nation.
 
Personally, any president that alienates it's citizens in sweeping statements is in the wrong. When you're elected, you have to accept you support the entire country, not just those that voted for you. It's why I think Politics is too hyper focused on party line and potentially too far gone to come back.

Executive orders are the hallmark of a broken democracy and each of the last several presidents uses EO's to avoid democracy. It's why the nation is seeing radical flips from right to left, back to right when the party in control changes. It's costly for tax payers and bad for the nation.
Last two paragraphs are probably the most factual and most logically sound statements in the entire thread. Reasonable people on both sides should be able to easily agree with that, IMHO.
 
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When I say this douchebag is the biggest hypocrite I’ve ever come across, I’m not saying it passively

Doesn’t get any more ironic than this

you really are not smart. I never said I don’t name call, just pointing out the hypocrisy of that douchebag for calling me out for something that he did in the very same post I responded to.

do you read any books that don’t have pictures? And I am laughing my ass off at you bragging on your crypto investments

you are a STONE COLD LOSER (and a racist)
 
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Why not waste time tonight? You waste time all other days.... all day long with your absurd posts.
For the same reason I don't sew my face to the carpet or try to make intelligent conversation with you. It's stupid and it gives me a headache.

What's Curious George up to? Have you finished the book yet?
 
"some of them, not all of them" ............We didn't get that clarity from Biden until the day after when he claimed he never said what he said.

Can you imagine the blowback if Trump had done a similar speech to Biden the other night? Dark setting with red lighting......good lord the country would have melted down with Hitler comments.


Personally, any president that alienates it's citizens in sweeping statements is in the wrong. When you're elected, you have to accept you support the entire country, not just those that voted for you. It's why I think Politics is too hyper focused on party line and potentially too far gone to come back.

Executive orders are the hallmark of a broken democracy and each of the last several presidents uses EO's to avoid democracy. It's why the nation is seeing radical flips from right to left, back to right when the party in control changes. It's costly for tax payers and bad for the nation.
Trump said things like that every day but you just became numb to it. The difference is Trump always lied and Biden told the truth once. The horror. He also was clear that he wasn't talking about all Republicans. The full transcript is attached. I don't know how you can read this and say he's wrong.

"Now, I want to be very clear, very clear up front. Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology. I know, because I’ve been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.

But there’s no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans. And that is a threat to this country."


 
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Trump said things like that every day but you just became numb to it. The difference is Trump always lied and Biden told the truth once. The horror. He also was clear that he wasn't talking about all Republicans. The full transcript is attached. I don't know how you can read this and say he's wrong.

"Now, I want to be very clear, very clear up front. Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology. I know, because I’ve been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.

But there’s no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans. And that is a threat to this country."



So I saw that part. I think there’s a difference though between people who support the Make America Great Again platform from a policy standpoint and the much smaller group of conspiracy theorists and may fall into the “extreme” category.

This ideology Biden talked about - what is it exactly other than election denying? I don’t attribute the abortion stuff to MAGA, that’s your Christian Right. Most MAGA don’t give a shit about gay marriage or contraception or other things Biden mentioned. What are the policies he’s talking about?

You can support his use of the bully pulpit and that’s fine, but his message was completely full of shit. It was purely partisan and an attempt to extend the extremism label to significant portions of the party, not just election deniers.

On the flip side, republicans opened themselves up to this BS by continuing to follow Trump and supporting dogshit candidates.
 
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So I saw that part. I think there’s a difference though between people who support the Make America Great Again platform from a policy standpoint and the much smaller group of conspiracy theorists and may fall into the “extreme” category.

This ideology Biden talked about - what is it exactly other than election denying? I don’t attribute the abortion stuff to MAGA, that’s your Christian Right. Most MAGA don’t give a shit about gay marriage or contraception or other things Biden mentioned. What are the policies he’s talking about?

You can support his use of the bully pulpit and that’s fine, but his message was completely full of shit. It was purely partisan and an attempt to extend the extremism label to significant portions of the party, not just election deniers.

On the flip side, republicans opened themselves up to this BS by continuing to follow Trump and supporting dogshit candidates.
I'm going to be short here because I'm getting ready for a trip but I was a little hesitant too when I heard he was going to make this speech, because more divisiveness is the last thing we need right now.

But damnit, when are Republicans going to police their own? If they aren't going to do it, somebody needs to and that's why I was mostly supportive of his speech. Too much is at stake to not forcefully call it out.

Election denying is a huge part of it and that's no small thing. MAGA is actively running candidates at all levels of government who are willing to overturn the results of an election if they don't like the outcome. They're even open about it. That's horrifying if left unchecked. You've even said yourself that you weren't paying attention or didn't care about races outside of your state. That's fine but someone needs to care, someone needs to speak out and ring the alarm bell. Republicans weren't doing it so somebody needed to.

You say MAGA doesn't care about gay marriage/.contraception etc... but the Right wing thugs attacking pride events and drag shows are almost certainly MAGA as are the candidates running who vowed to criminalize contraception - they announce themselves that they're Trump endorsed so I don't think you can separate those things from the MAGA agenda if you're honest.

JMO
 
I'm going to be short here because I'm getting ready for a trip but I was a little hesitant too when I heard he was going to make this speech, because more divisiveness is the last thing we need right now.

But damnit, when are Republicans going to police their own? If they aren't going to do it, somebody needs to and that's why I was mostly supportive of his speech. Too much is at stake to not forcefully call it out.

Election denying is a huge part of it and that's no small thing. MAGA is actively running candidates at all levels of government who are willing to overturn the results of an election if they don't like the outcome. They're even open about it. That's horrifying if left unchecked. You've even said yourself that you weren't paying attention or didn't care about races outside of your state. That's fine but someone needs to care, someone needs to speak out and ring the alarm bell. Republicans weren't doing it so somebody needed to.

You say MAGA doesn't care about gay marriage/.contraception etc... but the Right wing thugs attacking pride events and drag shows are almost certainly MAGA as are the candidates running who vowed to criminalize contraception - they announce themselves that they're Trump endorsed so I don't think you can separate those things from the MAGA agenda if you're honest.

JMO
If your going to call out pubs to police their own I hope you guys start to police your own. Its the only way things will cooldown...
 
I'm going to be short here because I'm getting ready for a trip but I was a little hesitant too when I heard he was going to make this speech, because more divisiveness is the last thing we need right now.

But damnit, when are Republicans going to police their own? If they aren't going to do it, somebody needs to and that's why I was mostly supportive of his speech. Too much is at stake to not forcefully call it out.

Election denying is a huge part of it and that's no small thing. MAGA is actively running candidates at all levels of government who are willing to overturn the results of an election if they don't like the outcome. They're even open about it. That's horrifying if left unchecked. You've even said yourself that you weren't paying attention or didn't care about races outside of your state. That's fine but someone needs to care, someone needs to speak out and ring the alarm bell. Republicans weren't doing it so somebody needed to.

You say MAGA doesn't care about gay marriage/.contraception etc... but the Right wing thugs attacking pride events and drag shows are almost certainly MAGA as are the candidates running who vowed to criminalize contraception - they announce themselves that they're Trump endorsed so I don't think you can separate those things from the MAGA agenda if you're honest.

JMO

Who the hell is trying to criminalize contraception? That’s not a mainstream concept in MAGA, republican, whatever. That’s a fringe religious zealot position.
 
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Who the hell is trying to criminalize contraception? That’s not a mainstream concept in MAGA, republican, whatever. That’s a fringe religious zealot position.
Have to paint MAGA people this way. MAGA people are more centrist and thats a threat to the far left and far right. That why those groups have allied against us. Seven years ago they hated Bush and Liz and her dad. Now they are all on the same side. Its the establishment vs populist. Big corps vs mom & pops.
 
Have to paint MAGA people this way. MAGA people are more centrist and thats a threat to the far left and far right. That why those groups have allied against us. Seven years ago they hated Bush and Liz and her dad. Now they are all on the same side. Its the establishment vs populist. Big corps vs mom & pops.
Dude, you must not have followed me long. I always have receipts. Apology accepted




 
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