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Clemson is next

Let's play Devil's Advocate now. Since our society is changing to be even shouldn't we do away with BET , United Negro College Fund, Black History month, Miss Black America , S.C.State and the rest of the Black Colleges, Etc....? Or at least rename all of those.
And by the way I support what the university is doing and it should be Equal across the country but it should go both ways also.
 
I think it will be replaced by the Tiger Paw and we will be known as “The University formerly known as Clemson”.

You jackass.

You stole my idea!!!!!

SC Foothills University Human Beings

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God that was a creepy mascot!

Won't happen. If that was the case then you would have to rename almost all the schools in this country built before the civil war. All were probably built by slaves and all of these founders more than likely were also slave owners. This includes schools in the northeast

Pretty much.

so you're suggesting Jesus University? Freedom from religion foundation probably won't like that.

We all know God loves the Clemson Tigers, so.......I'll allow it.

Well, no disrespect to you, but I suggest you put your glasses on, because a name change is coming, or at least a MAJOR fight is on the horizon.

As far as a new name goes, it cannot be the first couple of college presidents, as they likely had slaves, or at least their fathers did. Since Clemson is an engineering and agriculture school, maybe South Carolina Tech or South Carolina A&T? Hopefully the queen of England that the name 'Carolina' was named after was not an advocate of slavery?

South Carolina A&M would be a decent one. But the namesake of "Carolina" was a slavery proponent I think.

Just tell Dabo to win another ring and call it The Champs University.

Clemson University name won’t change. He founded the university. There is a huge difference between urging secession (Calhoun) and being a racist murdering thug (Tillman) and simply owning slaves when many did and it was legal. Besides the BOT has to make the decision.

You say that, but this is where this road leads. I'm good with renaming Tillman but eventually we will get to the point of insane. Some group will continue to push for it.
 
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Not gonna happen, no sane person would even discuss it.
He gave the land.
Neither he nor I are/were perfect.

But, WOW!
How impressive is the leadership at this special University!!

Calhoun & Tillman.... Gone in a flash!
Boom!

.....well, maybe not boom
And maybe not in a flash since some people have been advocating for it for some time.
 
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Let's play Devil's Advocate now. Since our society is changing to be even shouldn't we do away with BET , United Negro College Fund, Black History month, Miss Black America , S.C.State and the rest of the Black Colleges, Etc....? Or at least rename all of those.
And by the way I support what the university is doing and it should be Equal across the country but it should go both ways also.
Racists gotta racist.

Why advocate for eliminating HBCUs? Historically, they were the only places Blacks could attend college. You think blacks today have an equal chance of getting admitted into premier universities? If you do, you need to do more research. HBCUs continue to offer blacks a stepping stone to the middle or upper middle class.
 
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Racists gotta racist.

Why advocate for eliminating HBCUs? Historically, they were the only places Blacks could attend college. You think blacks today have an equal chance of getting admitted into premier universities? If you do, you need to do more research. HBCUs continue to offer blacks a stepping stone to the middle or upper middle class.
Well first you a dumbass for calling me racist when you don't know me. I've had black friends all of my life even when it was still frowned on. I've donated plenty to the center in our town in the black community in money and time. How much have you donated to help them that needs it? So get out of here with that shit calling people racist that you don't have a clue about. If this country is going to make changes it needs to be across the board just like it is at the cross. Can't have the cake,icing ,and eat it too.
 
I would vote for something that honored the Lower Cherokees that used to live right between the Keowee and Tugaloo rivers.

Where our beloved University now sits was taken from them.
 
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So Thomas Sumter also owned slaves. So UoSC may need to find a new mascot.

Depends on how far down the rabbit hole we go, what about the town of Sumter?

Francis Marion University?

We haven't hit the point of silliness yet, but we need to be careful.
 
Racists gotta racist.

Why advocate for eliminating HBCUs? Historically, they were the only places Blacks could attend college. You think blacks today have an equal chance of getting admitted into premier universities? If you do, you need to do more research. HBCUs continue to offer blacks a stepping stone to the middle or upper middle class.
You’re such an insufferable prick
 
So we know Tillman is now Old Main and Calhoun is now Clemson University HC. Clemson is next!!!!!!
When I was attending Clemson in 2017 the changing names of campus buildings were a normal debate in political type classes. I was stunned when the name Clemson was debated and was the class voted 55% to keep the name of the University as is. This decade I can see the school named after Thomas Green Clemson name being changed before the decade is done. If it passes what name do you think they could rename it. Don’t give me your emotional posts this is a future situation we will most likely experience sooner than later. What could they change it too?????
This is coming. And those who agreed with changing the Calhoun Honors have no right to complain.
 
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Racists gotta racist.

Why advocate for eliminating HBCUs? Historically, they were the only places Blacks could attend college. You think blacks today have an equal chance of getting admitted into premier universities? If you do, you need to do more research. HBCUs continue to offer blacks a stepping stone to the middle or upper middle class.
You’re a racist fellow kg. You don’t think black folks are capable of getting in on their own merit???
 
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So if Clemson's name is changed due to its history, doesn't the University of South Carolina also have to change since it is the state to which the war was started? How about Virginia, Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina, etc...... Are we going to change the names of every confederate state so that it now has no affiliation to the Confederate War? Because the Civil War was fought over slavery.
 
So we know Tillman is now Old Main and Calhoun is now Clemson University HC. Clemson is next!!!!!!
When I was attending Clemson in 2017 the changing names of campus buildings were a normal debate in political type classes. I was stunned when the name Clemson was debated and was the class voted 55% to keep the name of the University as is. This decade I can see the school named after Thomas Green Clemson name being changed before the decade is done. If it passes what name do you think they could rename it. Don’t give me your emotional posts this is a future situation we will most likely experience sooner than later. What could they change it too?????
Spineless U?
 
Let's play Devil's Advocate now. Since our society is changing to be even shouldn't we do away with BET , United Negro College Fund, Black History month, Miss Black America , S.C.State and the rest of the Black Colleges, Etc....? Or at least rename all of those.
And by the way I support what the university is doing and it should be Equal across the country but it should go both ways also.

CNN and Black Lives Matter put out Message trying to find out who you were I refused to give any details, even though they said they just wanted to add you to their Christmas list.
 
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Anyone who thinks this isn’t coming and will be a firestorm is naive at best. The only reason I can think of it hasn’t already happened is the people driving this aren’t informed enough to know what is being discussed here. Now when the media drops the nugget it will be like dropping a nuclear bomb. One reporter at any main stream media outlet can start it. I do not think or at least I hope with all that is good that Clemson will not cave and it will not change, but it cannot be ruled out as a possibility. Should the name change everything about it changes. The ramifications would be unbelievable. But as things stand in this country this may be the least of our concerns.
 
You jackass.

You stole my idea!!!!!



God that was a creepy mascot!



Pretty much.



We all know God loves the Clemson Tigers, so.......I'll allow it.



South Carolina A&M would be a decent one. But the namesake of "Carolina" was a slavery proponent I think.

Just tell Dabo to win another ring and call it The Champs University.



You say that, but this is where this road leads. I'm good with renaming Tillman but eventually we will get to the point of insane. Some group will continue to push for it.

You absolutely cannot have an 'M' for military, as they hate the military, and the military will be the focus of their attack after they finish with the police.

You just had a college up north apologize to Black Lives Matter for allowing police officers to use the same bathroom!!! Talk about being racist. I Guess they want to go back to seperate bathrooms, police bathroom only?
 
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The race thing being driven by the media is only a small part of what is happening. While everyone is distracted by this you better believe they are planning and preparing for something much worse.

Think on a macro scale. Think bigger. This is way bigger than a virus or race issues. What’s left of the patriots and good people in this country need to see past this. It’s an issue but it is likely to pale in comparison to what’s coming if they get their way.
 
You’re a racist fellow kg. You don’t think black folks are capable of getting in on their own merit???
What does history tell you? The answer is, in the past, they could not. Why? Because their elementary and high schools are inferior across the nation. They don’t have the same available funds generally as schools where white people attend. Why does President Clemens have it as a goal to increase minority enrollment at Clemson? Because it has been unfairly low in the past.

I would suggest that even Donald Trump acknowledges the shortcomings because the administration significantly increased funding for HBCUs.

Until WE ALL realize that racism cuts across every walk of life - education, housing, employment, religion - we will all be part of the problem, not a solution. It isn’t enough for any of us to say, “I am not a racist.” We have to work - and work hard - and reaching out and listening, understanding the lives of people different than ourselves and aim to make life better. We need to be radically inclusive with people from every walk of life.
 
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I'm not positive he was a slaveowner. His wife didn't inherit the Calhoun estate until after the civil war, and he didn't move to Fort Hill until 1872. Not seeing any info on his holdings prior to that.

Best I can tell, this is correct. Also, his will did not forbid the admission of POC and women as other’s did (Vanderbilt, Rice, etc.)
 
Auburn With A Lake University


.*googling if Mr Auburn had slaves*
 
So we know Tillman is now Old Main and Calhoun is now Clemson University HC. Clemson is next!!!!!!
When I was attending Clemson in 2017 the changing names of campus buildings were a normal debate in political type classes. I was stunned when the name Clemson was debated and was the class voted 55% to keep the name of the University as is. This decade I can see the school named after Thomas Green Clemson name being changed before the decade is done. If it passes what name do you think they could rename it. Don’t give me your emotional posts this is a future situation we will most likely experience sooner than later. What could they change it too?????
That is the day my will changes. For real.
 
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So we know Tillman is now Old Main and Calhoun is now Clemson University HC. Clemson is next!!!!!!
When I was attending Clemson in 2017 the changing names of campus buildings were a normal debate in political type classes. I was stunned when the name Clemson was debated and was the class voted 55% to keep the name of the University as is. This decade I can see the school named after Thomas Green Clemson name being changed before the decade is done. If it passes what name do you think they could rename it. Don’t give me your emotional posts this is a future situation we will most likely experience sooner than later. What could they change it too?????


They would not dare. Funding would be withdrawn. See how the legislature reacted to the last name change.
 
You jackass.

You stole my idea!!!!!



God that was a creepy mascot!



Pretty much.



We all know God loves the Clemson Tigers, so.......I'll allow it.



South Carolina A&M would be a decent one. But the namesake of "Carolina" was a slavery proponent I think.

Just tell Dabo to win another ring and call it The Champs University.



You say that, but this is where this road leads. I'm good with renaming Tillman but eventually we will get to the point of insane. Some group will continue to push for it.

South Carolina A & M

The acronym will not look good on T-shirts, Sweatshirts, uniforms or scoreboards.

I received my degrees from SCAM
 
To follow Stanford and the Cardinal (the color red for a mascot)

I propose one of our official colors as a name - Regalia University

It has a regal ring to it.

Since Tigers are endangered or new mascot could be the Kings and Queens.

If we still had freshmen teams - they could be the Princes and Princesses.
 
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Clemson University name won’t change. He founded the university. There is a huge difference between urging secession (Calhoun) and being a racist murdering thug (Tillman) and simply owning slaves when many did and it was legal. Besides the BOT has to make the decision.

Actually the state or federal Supreme Court would make the decision. I believe changing the name would break TGC's will.

The land and buildings would convert back to his family.
 
Why not? Thomas Green was a slaveowner. Anybody now that says “that won’t happen” is very naive.

There is blood in the water now. Give an inch and they want a mile.
He didn’t inherit them, either. He bought them in the 1840s.
 
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