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Clemson Professors protecting the Republic

This thread is filled with enlightening intelligent posts. Solid whataboutism @avengermg73, @92TigerME and @Earle36

What I stated are true facts. The former President said that verbatim. And as far as the cyber attack against the DOD, I am in the position to know and it has been published. Good way to try to deflect my friend.
 
You should watch it. It's so stupid it's hilarious. Every day it looks more and more like a documentary made in advance. The scene with them explaining why they put Brawndo on plants instead of water is like a conversation I have 100 times a day.

When I knew we were in trouble.

It was 1999 and Im the young 25-year-old go getter working for a major software company calling on Duke energy in Charlotte. The customer requirement was software that could pull data off the switches and monitoring devices strung along the Pan Energy pipeline. But the goal of the project or at least not the primary purpose was not for what you thought. Your initial thought would be monitoring all of the critical elements related to the distribution of the payload In the pipe. You’d be wrong and so was I.

What they primarily wanted it for was for anyone in the oil and gas distribution trading to make snap judgments, save a few pennies here or there to make or lose millions. Traders or anyone that wanted could “subscribe” to this “real time” data.

Aside from the business benefits which alone are obvious and risky, I pondered this notion of anyone subscribing to any information and delivered in the internet pipe to you. How awesome......... and how dangerous this is at the same time. Valuable information from anyone or anything but also sounds extremely isolating and that anyone or anything could be creating this content.

We didn’t win the deal due a key technical element. Tried to get my company to build the necessary add on. We didn’t.
Anyway, I was too scared to venture on my own to build something. Too young.

Yahoo! came out with customized news and dashboard feeds among other offerings in the industry and then the Twitter ultimately came about.

I sunk my head for the billions I never made. But more importantly going after the bullshit creators all over this planet.
 
Scary. You can argue and debate all you want about whether the Trump campaign had anything to do with it but, in the end, that's somewhat irrelevant. What Russia did to influence the election is absolutely terrifying because so many people just blindly believe what they read on social media and are so impacted by it.
Obama did the exact same thing and was lauded for it by the mainstream media. Also, this is not nearly as bad as the blatant lies run on targeted areas of the country by democrats in the 2 days leading up to the elections.
 
Who has more influence over our elections, Russian bots ( heck, Russians period) or GEORGE Soros? This guy hates America, hates the west, yet gets away with funneling billions into the political processs because he heavily lines the pockets of Democrats. He is actively doing everything he can to divide and tear America apart and because of his vast wealth he has bought the influence of political whores in Washington and gets away with it.
 
Le sigh. There is not a single legitimate intelligence, military, political or diplomatic source that does not believe the Russians meddled.

It's only one guy and his acolytes that deny it. I have no idea who (if anyone ) in this country was involved, and neither does anyone posting on this board. But to ignore the meddling and not want the government to take actions against it, either punitive or preventive, is beyond ignorant.
 
We don't know what evidence is there yet, but we are going to find out.

If there was any evidence, it would have leaked out two years ago.

Our elections are influenced by the left wing media in America. In case you had your head under a rock. Democrats harvested enough votes to steal one Senate Seat and Ten house seats.
 
Le sigh. There is not a single legitimate intelligence, military, political or diplomatic source that does not believe the Russians meddled.

It's only one guy and his acolytes that deny it. I have no idea who (if anyone ) in this country was involved, and neither does anyone posting on this board. But to ignore the meddling and not want the government to take actions against it, either punitive or preventive, is beyond ignorant.

17 right?

What a crock. The entire Russia investigation is based on a fake Russian Dossier. You believe what CNN tells you.
 
17 right?

What a crock. The entire Russia investigation is based on a fake Russian Dossier. You believe what CNN tells you.
17 what? I dont watch CNN.

The following have stated, in public, that they believe the Russians meddled:

CIA
FBI
NSA
Homeland Security
House Intelligence Committee (currently with Republican chair)
Senate Intelligence Committee (currently with Repunlican chair)
DOJ
James Mattis, Secretary of Defense
Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State
John Bolton, National Security Advisor

What possible reason would one choose to not believe all of them? This is a bipartisan issue to everyone but Trumpites.
 
17 what? I dont watch CNN.

The following have stated, in public, that they believe the Russians meddled:

CIA
FBI
NSA
Homeland Security
House Intelligence Committee (currently with Republican chair)
Senate Intelligence Committee (currently with Repunlican chair)
DOJ
James Mattis, Secretary of Defense
Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State
John Bolton, National Security Advisor

What possible reason would one choose to not believe all of them? This is a bipartisan issue to everyone but Trumpites.


I'll pass on the strength in numbers argument. We all know Obama had them all reading from the same script.
 
The Republicans were in on it. All the Democrats had to do was mention Putin and they had McCain, Graham, Rubio and Speaker of the House
 
Again. There has been No Evidence that links Russia to anything. Posting on Facebook is not meddling in an election. Running a click farm on twitter is not meddling in an election. It's protected speech.

No evidence that links Russia to DNCLEAKS.

None

Nada
 
We need to get rid of the CIA, FBI and NSA.
That’s an interesting take. For what purpose, and who should serve as the United States intelligence gathering and investigative arms? Should DHS also be disposed of? What about USSS? US Marshal Service?
 
This article should be required reading. Outstanding work done by those professors. Protecting our country IMO.
 
That’s an interesting take. For what purpose, and who should serve as the United States intelligence gathering and investigative arms? Should DHS also be disposed of? What about USSS? US Marshal Service?

I forgot about DHS.

We have our own guns. The government should let some of them thru so we can get a shot.
 
Who has more influence over our elections, Russian bots ( heck, Russians period) or GEORGE Soros? This guy hates America, hates the west, yet gets away with funneling billions into the political processs because he heavily lines the pockets of Democrats. He is actively doing everything he can to divide and tear America apart and because of his vast wealth he has bought the influence of political whores in Washington and gets away with it.
Whataboutism
Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.
So what Russian Twitter troll handles are good to follow my guy?
 
Who has more influence over our elections, Russian bots ( heck, Russians period) or GEORGE Soros? This guy hates America, hates the west, yet gets away with funneling billions into the political processs because he heavily lines the pockets of Democrats. He is actively doing everything he can to divide and tear America apart and because of his vast wealth he has bought the influence of political whores in Washington and gets away with it.
You’re spot on, Bro!
 
You should watch it. It's so stupid it's hilarious. Every day it looks more and more like a documentary made in advance. The scene with them explaining why they put Brawndo on plants instead of water is like a conversation I have 100 times a day.

Its got electrolytes
 
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Its got electrolytes

LOL. I literally had almost that exact conversation verbatim with a woman that worked for me in Atlanta. She was drinking this expensive super water and I asked her why and she said, "because it has electrolytes." So I asked her what they are and she says, "they're what people need." LMAO
 
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17 what? I dont watch CNN.

The following have stated, in public, that they believe the Russians meddled:

CIA
FBI
NSA
Homeland Security
House Intelligence Committee (currently with Republican chair)
Senate Intelligence Committee (currently with Repunlican chair)
DOJ
James Mattis, Secretary of Defense
Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State
John Bolton, National Security Advisor

What possible reason would one choose to not believe all of them? This is a bipartisan issue to everyone but Trumpites.
Right, I'm sure they did. In fact they do every day even when its not an election, along with Korea, China """insert one of the many non-USA fans. So why make such a big deal out of it now?

Only a true idiot would believe that the routine "meddling" (one of many CNN Terms) altered the elections.
 
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If there was any evidence, it would have leaked out two years ago.

Our elections are influenced by the left wing media in America. In case you had your head under a rock. Democrats harvested enough votes to steal one Senate Seat and Ten house seats.
The Mueller team does not leak. The Trump white house leaks like a person with an uncontrollable bladder. Based on Trump's absolute paranoia and all of the people associated with Trump who had interactions with Russians if you can't see the writing on the wall and what's coming I don't know what to tell you. And how's that train wreck with the Republicans going in the NC election?
 
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It seems Hillary’s and the Clinton Foundation’s
Crimes would dwarf anything ticky tacky thing Trump did. Plus Obama running guns in Mexico, letting our ambassador get murdered, sending billions in cash to our enemy in Iran( top terrorist state), and illegally spying on Trump( a political opponent). HRC and Barry Obama make Trump seem
Like an Angel.
That’s my favorite argument. It is key when political parties do the exact same thing as the previous party.

Conservatives are cool with the GOP spending like socialist because Obama did it too.

Conservatives are okay with their politicians not passing any laws and Trump ruling by excecutibe order because Obama did it too.

Conservatives are okay with Trump teaming up with big government Russia because Hillary did it too.

I just wish y’all stopped hating each other and realized y’all are all liberals. Only difference is the minorities you hate.
 
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Lol at the people who think this is the first time a country has tried to meddle in our elections. We have been doing the same for a LONG time. Main stream media has people out on a limb right now.
 
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The Mueller team does not leak. The Trump white house leaks like a person with an uncontrollable bladder. Based on Trump's absolute paranoia and all of the people associated with Trump who had interactions with Russians if you can't see the writing on the wall and what's coming I don't know what to tell you. And how's that train wreck with the Republicans going in the NC election?

Nothing is going to happen. Keep dreaming.
 
CNN is bulsllshat for snowflakes. Their viewers are stupid as shat.
I agree. Only voters dumber are the ones that watch foxnews. It humors me when conservatives insult CNN. CNN saw how much money FoxNews made running the propaganda and did the same thing.

Take immigration reform. Conservatives assume that Obama had an open border policy when he increased deportations and decreased spending on immigration control. This means he was more efficient than Trumps policy. Something conservatives should want. They think there was a horrible immigration issue and now are happy that’s Trump has increased expenses for ICE and the cost per deportation increased.

But conservatives did vote for a yankee con man that made a living failing and screwing over working Americans. #maga
 
Aren’t Democrats basically Communist or at best Venuzelan Socialist?
Republicans passed a law in Texas that made it illegal to not participate in the pledge. Sounds like communism to me.

Both parties want to regulate what they don’t like. Conservatives don’t like gays, shouldn’t get the same rights as non gays. Liberals don’t like guns, people shouldn’t own them. Conservatives don’t like black people kneeling for the anthem, numerous gop politicians mentioned how it should be illegal to knell for the anthem. Liberal don’t like people drinking 100+ ounces of soda, believe it should be illegal. Conservatives don’t like a plant that comes from the earth, thinks people should be punished for owning or using one of “gods” plants.

Y’all are all pro big government that need safe places for anything different.
 
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So shortly after the election when the rumors of Russian involvement started, it was complete denial by the right, statements like, “You liberals just can’t believe that this country’s values align with Trump, he didn’t need any help!”, blah blah blah.

Now, it’s “Whatever, it happens everywhere and we do it too. Only an idiot would believe it affected the outcome.”

I’d say it’s unbelievable but it’s completely believable how silly partisan politics make people look.
 
I agree. Only voters dumber are the ones that watch foxnews. It humors me when conservatives insult CNN. CNN saw how much money FoxNews made running the propaganda and did the same thing.

Take immigration reform. Conservatives assume that Obama had an open border policy when he increased deportations and decreased spending on immigration control. This means he was more efficient than Trumps policy. Something conservatives should want. They think there was a horrible immigration issue and now are happy that’s Trump has increased expenses for ICE and the cost per deportation increased.

But conservatives did vote for a yankee con man that made a living failing and screwing over working Americans. #maga

6 more years
 
You snowflakes are living in Trump country.
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