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Ok so i just picked a random spot in this video and this old physics professor says, and I quote: " Well just google for cryosphere and I think those guys are pretty honest, and you can see that the ice fluctuates up and down"
He went on to say that the antartic isn't like the south pole. ...its all water and ...
Guys.. this professor maybe mentally unwell.
 
The atmosphere is already opaque to the infrared radiation frequencies that CO2 absorbs due to the presence of water vapor. Thus adding more CO2 will not cause an increase in greenhouse effect.

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Go to the 13 minute mark for an expert geologist explanation.

 
We get it. Not only do thousands of Climate Scientists not understand basic science. Now Stephen Hawkins doesn't either. ONLY a master's level engineer with a website can truly understand...

Just curious. He started off by saying that all these climate experts were liars, now he's saying that they don't understand basic science.

I wonder which it is? Or maybe he's the one that's wrong. I still haven't seen a SINGLE reputable scientist of journal in your thread. I'm thinking you should get Sammy Watkins on next to tell us that since the earth is flat, GLOBAL anything is a myth.
 
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Well if we are just posting quotes and links to other people here are some references that explain the greenhouse effect:

  1. "Annex III Glossary" (PDF). Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Retrieved 10 October 2019.
  2. ^ Jump up to:a b A concise description of the greenhouse effect is given in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fourth Assessment Report, "What is the Greenhouse Effect?" FAQ 1.3 – AR4 WGI Chapter 1: Historical Overview of Climate Change Science, IIPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Chapter 1, page 115: "To balance the absorbed incoming [solar] energy, the Earth must, on average, radiate the same amount of energy back to space. Because the Earth is much colder than the Sun, it radiates at much longer wavelengths, primarily in the infrared part of the spectrum (see Figure 1). Much of this thermal radiation emitted by the land and ocean is absorbed by the atmosphere, including clouds, and reradiated back to Earth. This is called the greenhouse effect."
    Schneider, Stephen H. (2001). "Global Climate Change in the Human Perspective". In Bengtsson, Lennart O.; Hammer, Claus U. (eds.). Geosphere-biosphere Interactions and Climate. Cambridge University Press. pp. 90–91. ISBN 978-0-521-78238-8.
    Claussen, E.; Cochran, V.A.; Davis, D.P., eds. (2001). "Global Climate Data". Climate Change: Science, Strategies, & Solutions. University of Michigan. p. 373. ISBN 978-9004120242.
    Allaby, A.; Allaby, M. (1999). A Dictionary of Earth Sciences. Oxford University Press. p. 244. ISBN 978-0-19-280079-4.
  3. ^ Vaclav Smil (2003). The Earth's Biosphere: Evolution, Dynamics, and Change. MIT Press. p. 107. ISBN 978-0-262-69298-4.
  4. ^ IPCC AR4 WG1 (2007), Solomon, S.; Qin, D.; Manning, M.; Chen, Z.; Marquis, M.; Averyt, K.B.; Tignor, M.; Miller, H.L. (eds.), Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis, Contribution of Working Group I to the Fourth Assessment Reportof the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 978-0-521-88009-1 (pb: 978-0-521-70596-7)
  5. ^ Hashimoto, G. L.; Roos-Serote, M.; Sugita, S.; Gilmore, M. S.; Kamp, L. W.; Carlson, R. W.; Baines, K. H. (2008). "Felsic highland crust on Venus suggested by Galileo Near-Infrared Mapping Spectrometer data". Journal of Geophysical Research: Planets. 113 (E9): E00B24. Bibcode:2008JGRE..113.0B24H. doi:10.1029/2008JE003134.
  6. ^ David Shiga (10 October 2007). "Did Venus's ancient oceans incubate life?". New Scientist.
  7. ^ Jakosky, Bruce M. (1999). "Atmospheres of the Terrestrial Planets". In Beatty, J. Kelly; Petersen, Carolyn Collins; Chaikin, Andrew (eds.). The New Solar System (4th ed.). Boston: Sky Publishing. pp. 175–200. ISBN 978-0-933346-86-4. OCLC 39464951.
  8. ^ Jump up to:a b Schroeder, Daniel V. (2000). An introduction to thermal physics. Addison-Wesley. pp. 305–7. ISBN 978-0-321-27779-4. ... this mechanism is called the greenhouse effect, even though most greenhouses depend primarily on a different mechanism (namely, limiting convective cooling).
  9. ^ Jump up to:a b Wood, R.W. (1909). "Note on the Theory of the Greenhouse". Philosophical Magazine. 17 (98): 319–320. doi:10.1080/14786440208636602. When exposed to sunlight the temperature rose gradually to 65 °C., the enclosure covered with the salt plate keeping a little ahead of the other because it transmitted the longer waves from the Sun, which were stopped by the glass. In order to eliminate this action the sunlight was first passed through a glass plate." "it is clear that the rock-salt plate is capable of transmitting practically all of it, while the glass plate stops it entirely. This shows us that the loss of temperature of the ground by radiation is very small in comparison to the loss by convection, in other words that we gain very little from the circumstance that the radiation is trapped.
  10. ^ Jump up to:a b Oort, Abraham H.; Peixoto, José Pinto (1992). Physics of climate. New York: American Institute of Physics. ISBN 978-0-88318-711-1. ...the name water vapor-greenhouse effect is actually a misnomer since heating in the usual greenhouse is due to the reduction of convection
  11. ^ McNeill, Leila. "This Lady Scientist Defined the Greenhouse Effect But Didn't Get the Credit, Because Sexism". Smithsonian. Retrieved 2019-04-16.
  12. ^ John Tyndall, Heat considered as a Mode of Motion (500 pages; year 1863, 1873)
  13. ^ Held, Isaac M.; Soden, Brian J. (November 2000). "Water Vapor Feedback and Global Warming". Annual Review of Energy and the Environment. 25: 441–475. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.22.9397. doi:10.1146/annurev.energy.25.1.441.
  14. ^ Easterbrook, Steve. "Who first coined the term "Greenhouse Effect"?". Serendipity. Retrieved 11 November 2015.
  15. ^ Ekholm N (1901). "On The Variations Of The Climate Of The Geological And Historical Past And Their Causes". Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society. 27 (117): 1–62. Bibcode:1901QJRMS..27....1E. doi:10.1002/qj.49702711702.
  16. ^ "NASA Earth Fact Sheet". Nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
  17. ^ Jacob, Daniel J. (1999). "7. The Greenhouse Effect". Introduction to Atmospheric Chemistry. Princeton University Press. ISBN 978-1400841547.
  18. ^ "Solar Radiation and the Earth's Energy Balance". Eesc.columbia.edu. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
  19. ^ Jump up to:a b Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fourth Assessment Report. Chapter 1: Historical overview of climate change science page 97
  20. ^ The elusive "absolute surface air temperature," see GISS discussion
  21. ^ Jump up to:a b Mitchell, John F. B. (1989). "The "Greenhouse" effect and Climate Change" (PDF). Reviews of Geophysics. 27 (1): 115–139. Bibcode:1989RvGeo..27..115M. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.459.471. doi:10.1029/RG027i001p00115. Retrieved 2008-03-23.
  22. ^ "Water vapour: feedback or forcing?". RealClimate. 6 April 2005. Retrieved 2006-05-01.
  23. ^ Jump up to:a b Kiehl, J.T.; Trenberth, Kevin E. (February 1997). "Earth's Annual Global Mean Energy Budget" (PDF). Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society. 78 (2): 197–208. Bibcode:1997BAMS...78..197K. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.168.831. doi:10.1175/1520-0477(1997)078<0197:EAGMEB>2.0.CO;2. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2006-03-30. Retrieved 2006-05-01.
  24. ^ "NASA: Climate Forcings and Global Warming". January 14, 2009.
  25. ^ "Enhanced greenhouse effect — Glossary". Nova. Australian Academy of Scihuman impact on the environment. 2006.
  26. ^ "Enhanced Greenhouse Effect". Ace.mmu.ac.uk. Archived from the original on 2010-10-24. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
  27. ^ "Synthesis Report: Summary for Policymakers" (PDF). IPCC Fifth Assessment Report. p. 4.
  28. ^ IPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Working Group I Report "The Physical Science Basis" Chapter 7
  29. ^ "Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide – Mauna Loa". NOAA.
  30. ^ "Climate Milestone: Earth's CO2 Level Passes 400 ppm". National Geographic. 2013-05-12. Retrieved 2017-12-10.
  31. ^ Hansen J. (February 2005). "A slippery slope: How much global warming constitutes "dangerous anthropogenic interference"?". Climatic Change. 68 (333): 269–279. doi:10.1007/s10584-005-4135-0.
  32. ^ "Deep ice tells long climate story". BBC News. 2006-09-04. Retrieved 2010-05-04.
  33. ^ Hileman B (2005-11-28). "Ice Core Record Extended". Chemical & Engineering News. 83 (48): 7. doi:10.1021/cen-v083n048.p007.
  34. ^ Bowen, Mark (2006). Thin Ice: Unlocking the Secrets of Climate in the World's Highest Mountains. Owl Books. ISBN 978-1429932707.
  35. ^ Temperature change and carbon dioxide change, U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
  36. ^ Brian Shmaefsky (2004). Favorite demonstrations for college science: an NSTA Press journals collection. NSTA Press. p. 57. ISBN 978-0-87355-242-4.
  37. ^ Kurpaska, Sławomir (2014). "Energy effects during using the glass with different properties in a heated greenhouse" (PDF). Technical Sciences. 17 (4): 351–360.
  38. ^ "Titan: Greenhouse and Anti-greenhouse". Astrobiology Magazine – earth science – evolution distribution Origin of life universe – life beyond :: Astrobiology is study of earth. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
  39. ^ Kasting, James F. (1991). "Runaway and moist greenhouse atmospheres and the evolution of Earth and Venus.". Planetary Sciences: American and Soviet Research/Proceedings from the U.S.-U.S.S.R. Workshop on Planetary Sciences. Commission on Engineering and Technical Systems (CETS). pp. 234–245. Retrieved 9 April 2017.
  40. ^ Rasool, I.; De Bergh, C. (June 1970). "The Runaway Greenhouse and the Accumulation of CO2 in the Venus Atmosphere" (PDF). Nature. 226 (5250): 1037–9. Bibcode:1970Natur.226.1037R. doi:10.1038/2261037a0. PMID 16057644. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2011-10-21.
  41. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus Magnetic Field and core
  42. ^ McKay, C.; Pollack, J.; Courtin, R. (1991). "The greenhouse and antigreenhouse effects on Titan". Science. 253 (5024): 1118–21. doi:10.1126/science.11538492. PMID 11538492.
  43. ^ Goldblatt, Colin; Watson, Andrew J. (2012). "The Runaway Greenhouse: Implications for Future Climate Change, Geoengineering and Planetary Atmospheres". Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences. 370 (1974): 4197–4216. arXiv:1201.1593. doi:10.1098/rsta.2012.0004. JSTOR 41582871. PMID 22869797.
  44. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars Surface Temp
  45. ^ https://mars.nasa.gov/all-about-mars/facts/
  46. ^ "Pluto Colder Than Expected". SPACE.com. 2006-01-03. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
 
Rychek4 said:
Well if we are just posting quotes and links to other people here are some references that explain the greenhouse effect:

  1. "Annex III Glossary" (PDF). Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Retrieved 10 October 2019.
  2. ^ Jump up to:a b A concise description of the greenhouse effect is given in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fourth Assessment Report, "What is the Greenhouse Effect?" FAQ 1.3 – AR4 WGI Chapter 1: Historical Overview of Climate Change Science, IIPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Chapter 1, page 115: "To balance the absorbed incoming [solar] energy, the Earth must, on average, radiate the same amount of energy back to space. Because the Earth is much colder than the Sun, it radiates at much longer wavelengths, primarily in the infrared part of the spectrum (see Figure 1). Much of this thermal radiation emitted by the land and ocean is absorbed by the atmosphere, including clouds, and reradiated back to Earth. This is called the greenhouse effect."
    Schneider, Stephen H. (2001). "Global Climate Change in the Human Perspective". In Bengtsson, Lennart O.; Hammer, Claus U. (eds.). Geosphere-biosphere Interactions and Climate. Cambridge University Press. pp. 90–91. ISBN 978-0-521-78238-8.
    Claussen, E.; Cochran, V.A.; Davis, D.P., eds. (2001). "Global Climate Data". Climate Change: Science, Strategies, & Solutions. University of Michigan. p. 373. ISBN 978-9004120242.
    Allaby, A.; Allaby, M. (1999). A Dictionary of Earth Sciences. Oxford University Press. p. 244. ISBN 978-0-19-280079-4.
  3. ^ Vaclav Smil (2003). The Earth's Biosphere: Evolution, Dynamics, and Change. MIT Press. p. 107. ISBN 978-0-262-69298-4.
  4. ^ IPCC AR4 WG1 (2007), Solomon, S.; Qin, D.; Manning, M.; Chen, Z.; Marquis, M.; Averyt, K.B.; Tignor, M.; Miller, H.L. (eds.), Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis, Contribution of Working Group I to the Fourth Assessment Reportof the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 978-0-521-88009-1 (pb: 978-0-521-70596-7)
  5. ^ Hashimoto, G. L.; Roos-Serote, M.; Sugita, S.; Gilmore, M. S.; Kamp, L. W.; Carlson, R. W.; Baines, K. H. (2008). "Felsic highland crust on Venus suggested by Galileo Near-Infrared Mapping Spectrometer data". Journal of Geophysical Research: Planets. 113 (E9): E00B24. Bibcode:2008JGRE..113.0B24H. doi:10.1029/2008JE003134.
  6. ^ David Shiga (10 October 2007). "Did Venus's ancient oceans incubate life?". New Scientist.
  7. ^ Jakosky, Bruce M. (1999). "Atmospheres of the Terrestrial Planets". In Beatty, J. Kelly; Petersen, Carolyn Collins; Chaikin, Andrew (eds.). The New Solar System (4th ed.). Boston: Sky Publishing. pp. 175–200. ISBN 978-0-933346-86-4. OCLC 39464951.
  8. ^ Jump up to:a b Schroeder, Daniel V. (2000). An introduction to thermal physics. Addison-Wesley. pp. 305–7. ISBN 978-0-321-27779-4. ... this mechanism is called the greenhouse effect, even though most greenhouses depend primarily on a different mechanism (namely, limiting convective cooling).
  9. ^ Jump up to:a b Wood, R.W. (1909). "Note on the Theory of the Greenhouse". Philosophical Magazine. 17 (98): 319–320. doi:10.1080/14786440208636602. When exposed to sunlight the temperature rose gradually to 65 °C., the enclosure covered with the salt plate keeping a little ahead of the other because it transmitted the longer waves from the Sun, which were stopped by the glass. In order to eliminate this action the sunlight was first passed through a glass plate." "it is clear that the rock-salt plate is capable of transmitting practically all of it, while the glass plate stops it entirely. This shows us that the loss of temperature of the ground by radiation is very small in comparison to the loss by convection, in other words that we gain very little from the circumstance that the radiation is trapped.
  10. ^ Jump up to:a b Oort, Abraham H.; Peixoto, José Pinto (1992). Physics of climate. New York: American Institute of Physics. ISBN 978-0-88318-711-1. ...the name water vapor-greenhouse effect is actually a misnomer since heating in the usual greenhouse is due to the reduction of convection
  11. ^ McNeill, Leila. "This Lady Scientist Defined the Greenhouse Effect But Didn't Get the Credit, Because Sexism". Smithsonian. Retrieved 2019-04-16.
  12. ^ John Tyndall, Heat considered as a Mode of Motion (500 pages; year 1863, 1873)
  13. ^ Held, Isaac M.; Soden, Brian J. (November 2000). "Water Vapor Feedback and Global Warming". Annual Review of Energy and the Environment. 25: 441–475. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.22.9397. doi:10.1146/annurev.energy.25.1.441.
  14. ^ Easterbrook, Steve. "Who first coined the term "Greenhouse Effect"?". Serendipity. Retrieved 11 November 2015.
  15. ^ Ekholm N (1901). "On The Variations Of The Climate Of The Geological And Historical Past And Their Causes". Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society. 27 (117): 1–62. Bibcode:1901QJRMS..27....1E. doi:10.1002/qj.49702711702.
  16. ^ "NASA Earth Fact Sheet". Nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
  17. ^ Jacob, Daniel J. (1999). "7. The Greenhouse Effect". Introduction to Atmospheric Chemistry. Princeton University Press. ISBN 978-1400841547.
  18. ^ "Solar Radiation and the Earth's Energy Balance". Eesc.columbia.edu. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
  19. ^ Jump up to:a b Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fourth Assessment Report. Chapter 1: Historical overview of climate change science page 97
  20. ^ The elusive "absolute surface air temperature," see GISS discussion
  21. ^ Jump up to:a b Mitchell, John F. B. (1989). "The "Greenhouse" effect and Climate Change" (PDF). Reviews of Geophysics. 27 (1): 115–139. Bibcode:1989RvGeo..27..115M. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.459.471. doi:10.1029/RG027i001p00115. Retrieved 2008-03-23.
  22. ^ "Water vapour: feedback or forcing?". RealClimate. 6 April 2005. Retrieved 2006-05-01.
  23. ^ Jump up to:a b Kiehl, J.T.; Trenberth, Kevin E. (February 1997). "Earth's Annual Global Mean Energy Budget" (PDF). Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society. 78 (2): 197–208. Bibcode:1997BAMS...78..197K. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.168.831. doi:10.1175/1520-0477(1997)078<0197:EAGMEB>2.0.CO;2. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2006-03-30. Retrieved 2006-05-01.
  24. ^ "NASA: Climate Forcings and Global Warming". January 14, 2009.
  25. ^ "Enhanced greenhouse effect — Glossary". Nova. Australian Academy of Scihuman impact on the environment. 2006.
  26. ^ "Enhanced Greenhouse Effect". Ace.mmu.ac.uk. Archived from the original on 2010-10-24. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
  27. ^ "Synthesis Report: Summary for Policymakers" (PDF). IPCC Fifth Assessment Report. p. 4.
  28. ^ IPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Working Group I Report "The Physical Science Basis" Chapter 7
  29. ^ "Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide – Mauna Loa". NOAA.
  30. ^ "Climate Milestone: Earth's CO2 Level Passes 400 ppm". National Geographic. 2013-05-12. Retrieved 2017-12-10.
  31. ^ Hansen J. (February 2005). "A slippery slope: How much global warming constitutes "dangerous anthropogenic interference"?". Climatic Change. 68 (333): 269–279. doi:10.1007/s10584-005-4135-0.
  32. ^ "Deep ice tells long climate story". BBC News. 2006-09-04. Retrieved 2010-05-04.
  33. ^ Hileman B (2005-11-28). "Ice Core Record Extended". Chemical & Engineering News. 83 (48): 7. doi:10.1021/cen-v083n048.p007.
  34. ^ Bowen, Mark (2006). Thin Ice: Unlocking the Secrets of Climate in the World's Highest Mountains. Owl Books. ISBN 978-1429932707.
  35. ^ Temperature change and carbon dioxide change, U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
  36. ^ Brian Shmaefsky (2004). Favorite demonstrations for college science: an NSTA Press journals collection. NSTA Press. p. 57. ISBN 978-0-87355-242-4.
  37. ^ Kurpaska, Sławomir (2014). "Energy effects during using the glass with different properties in a heated greenhouse" (PDF). Technical Sciences. 17 (4): 351–360.
  38. ^ "Titan: Greenhouse and Anti-greenhouse". Astrobiology Magazine – earth science – evolution distribution Origin of life universe – life beyond :: Astrobiology is study of earth. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
  39. ^ Kasting, James F. (1991). "Runaway and moist greenhouse atmospheres and the evolution of Earth and Venus.". Planetary Sciences: American and Soviet Research/Proceedings from the U.S.-U.S.S.R. Workshop on Planetary Sciences. Commission on Engineering and Technical Systems (CETS). pp. 234–245. Retrieved 9 April 2017.
  40. ^ Rasool, I.; De Bergh, C. (June 1970). "The Runaway Greenhouse and the Accumulation of CO2 in the Venus Atmosphere" (PDF). Nature. 226 (5250): 1037–9. Bibcode:1970Natur.226.1037R. doi:10.1038/2261037a0. PMID 16057644. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2011-10-21.
  41. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus Magnetic Field and core
  42. ^ McKay, C.; Pollack, J.; Courtin, R. (1991). "The greenhouse and antigreenhouse effects on Titan". Science. 253 (5024): 1118–21. doi:10.1126/science.11538492. PMID 11538492.
  43. ^ Goldblatt, Colin; Watson, Andrew J. (2012). "The Runaway Greenhouse: Implications for Future Climate Change, Geoengineering and Planetary Atmospheres". Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences. 370 (1974): 4197–4216. arXiv:1201.1593. doi:10.1098/rsta.2012.0004. JSTOR 41582871. PMID 22869797.
  44. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars Surface Temp
  45. ^ https://mars.nasa.gov/all-about-mars/facts/
  46. ^ "Pluto Colder Than Expected". SPACE.com. 2006-01-03. Retrieved 2010-10-15.
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My quote for the day

"Belief in science is belief, not science".


I just followed this guy

 
I just followed 75 scientists on twitter that have debunked climate models. CO2 does not cause warming. Thank Goodness too because that means the atmosphere is stable and not sensitive to CO2 concentrations like so many flat earth thinkers are saying.

Note to non scientific people. All the carbon from hydrocarbon fuel came from the atmosphere. We are just putting it back. Moreover, back when those hydrocarbons were living on the surface of the earth, the CO2 levels in the atmosphere were 17 times what they are today and global temperatures were not any different and life was abundant. Now some will say this occurred millions of years ago but it actually occurred before the Biblical flood approximately 2348 BC.

We are just putting the carbon back.
 
Rychek4 said:
There is some irony here.
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You quoted me out of context in order to make a point. The fact remains, all carbon from hydrocarbon fuel came from the atmosphere.

Although there is plenty of scientific evidence that the Biblical version of the flood occurred.
 
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