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Coronavirus task force wrapping up...

I agree with everything you say, except that I think people should try to abide by social distancing recommendations when they are out and should wear masks if they cant. Oh, and test as many people as possible and isolate anyone that is positive. Thats really all we can do.


I agree. If you look at this objectively, you can't deny that the real action we need is asking people to change deeply ingrained habits, beliefs, customs, etc. People send their kids sick to school everyday with no concern about the kid in class that is a brittle diabetic for whom a stomach bug can be life threatening. Our society and laws aren't set up to handle a crisis like this and americans desperately want a normal life and the freedom to travel, eat out, go to concerts/sporting events, etc. Countries that stomp on civil liberties are much better suited to handle this.
 
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Never trump crowd now realizing they have 4 more years of the orange man and it's drives them crazy
 
...their work is nearly done. Guess the virus has disappeared.



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Good. They should wrap it up and let's get back to work....virus more dangerous for olders, obese, and those with respiratory issues. So, let's protect them and get back to being GREAT again. I guess the Dem's think Sleepy/Creepy or the Crooked One could have done better, LOL.
 
I just dont see how more testing is a farce. You want to know who has it so you can isolate them and allow everyone else to come out of isolation. This is particularly true with a virus like this where a high percentage of people have it never even show symptoms. If they knew they had it, most reasonable people would isolate themselves to protect their families and friends, particularly older people and people with other health issues.

The idea of testing mass populations as a strategy to mitigate is a farce. You can be negative today and positive tomorrow. The folks that say we need to test X million per day or week are just grasping at some theoretical excel model. Unless you are going to test essentially the population of the US that is mobile each day, its not going to matter. You're pissing in the wind and wasting tests and capacity.

Targeted testing with contract tracing could work. But there isn't a contract tracing system designed yet that would stop an outbreak in an large urban environment. "You're negative on Tuesday, positive on Friday. Now we have to find everyone you rode the subway with Wednesday and Thursday and test them."

So what you do is test the vulnerable population early, often and then test them again. Test healthcare workers and people that work with vulnerable populations early often and then test them again (using a combination of rapid test and non rapid testing). Test folks that have large interactions with the public to prevent a local outbreak. Then you learn to live with the prevalence rate of COVID in the population.
 
the amount of testing has gone up infinitely in other areas... that is a large part about why the cases have increased
Yes sir.
Let's watch the hospitalizations number. In the end that is what really matters. If people get it and stay home for recovery, that is a win for everyone.
 
The idea of testing mass populations as a strategy to mitigate is a farce. You can be negative today and positive tomorrow. The folks that say we need to test X million per day or week are just grasping at some theoretical excel model. Unless you are going to test essentially the population of the US that is mobile each day, its not going to matter. You're pissing in the wind and wasting tests and capacity.

Targeted testing with contract tracing could work. But there isn't a contract tracing system designed yet that would stop an outbreak in an large urban environment. "You're negative on Tuesday, positive on Friday. Now we have to find everyone you rode the subway with Wednesday and Thursday and test them."

So what you do is test the vulnerable population early, often and then test them again. Test healthcare workers and people that work with vulnerable populations early often and then test them again (using a combination of rapid test and non rapid testing). Test folks that have large interactions with the public to prevent a local outbreak. Then you learn to live with the prevalence rate of COVID in the population.


Dead on. Only issue I have is even this ("Test folks that have large interactions with the public to prevent a local outbreak"), is likely impossible.
 
I will add one more thing to the discussion. The reason we shut the economy down was to prevent the hospitals (and available ventilators) from being overcome and people dying at home. In areas where there are empty beds and plenty of supplies, they should open up some and then see what happens.
 
Guys, this was a joke. Come on.

needed the /s

and forgive us, there are people out there that believe trump is the only person who can save us from a global cabal of child molesting liberals, so its not a leap to thing someone might think trump could beat people up. :)
 
Seriously. What do you think we should do? I only see two options. SIP until there is a vaccine, or open things back up. Which one is the right thing to do? I'll listen to other options if you have any.
Protect the vulnerable and let everyone else go about their lives and develop herd immunity. That’s the safest thing for the vulnerable whether they develop a vaccine or not and Covid has already mutated so a vaccine is far too iffy to wait on. We already have hydroxycloroquine with zinc and Z-pac to treat patients.
 
Protect the vulnerable and let everyone else go about their lives and develop herd immunity. That’s the safest thing for the vulnerable whether they develop a vaccine or not and Covid has already mutated so a vaccine is far too iffy to wait on. We already have hydroxycloroquine with zinc and Z-pac to treat patients.
Appreciate you response. I was hoping the OP would respond.
 
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Appreciate you response. I was hoping the OP would respond.
Appreciate you response. I was hoping the OP would respond.
no problem. I’m in a rare situation. I talk to more than fifty people a week here in the upstate and my clientele are mostly wealthy and educated. Quite a few are doctors and people in the finance world. Although I’m a blue collar college dropout I’ve scored as high as 44 on the wonderlic. Not bragging just saying I analyze things everyday and I’m not a genius but I use my brain every day analyzing complex problems to feed my family.
This thing has me, and many people I work for, a lot of whom are at least as smart as me and many much more educated, scared. (Economies) equals people feeding themselves and the ones they support. What is happening now around the world is creating an unprecedented economic collapse that will cause exponentially more deaths than the virus, and worse it will allow the elite to have more power over many many more people who have no other choice than to submit to the powers that be.
It’s becoming clearer to me over time that many of these elites know that, and are deliberately continuing to use this, to drive more and more into poverty and thus will give them more power.
 
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