Of course they do.
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People who cant seem to let the past go are doomed to forever live in the past. My people arent living in the past we are all about the here and now and planning for our future. My people dont sit around and talk about what happen 300-400 years ago. Tribes did terrible things to each other long before your lilly white leftist asses came ashore. Tribes here invaded and enslaved other tribes no different than the European tribes or African tribes or Asian tribes. There is an old Chinese saying that says in order for a wound to heal you need to not keep picking the scab. Because if you do you run the risk of infection and permanent scaring and even death. Well we will have scaring now for sure. Keep picking the wound and we run the risk of death as a nation. Im glad you came its gave me and people from all tribes opportunities we would never had if you hadnt come. We would be just like Africa otherwise. So since whats done is done and you cant put the toothpaste back in the tube lets make the best of it as a team moving forward. To do this we need to stop living in the past if its going to work....
I live in the moment, informed by the past and planning for the future. If you are blind to the past you are a useful rube.
This is such a surprising misunderstanding of the referenced material. What in the world do you think that paper says about American education content? Cuz I see zip. I guess you don't know that the department of education sets standards. The department of education has zip to do with unionOf course they do.
The Role of Teacher Union Expertise in Shaping Education Policy
riseprogramme.org
Its one thing to know the past but its another to harp on it like people do. Its not helpful to the future. Its one thing to remember how you got the wound but dont keep picking at at, let it heal...
Oh shut up. You are such a whiner. It happened its history and learning about it is education. You are talking about white washing history. Why do you want to do that? I'm guessing this what academics refer to as white guilt. Your shame is showing. My ancestors fought on the confederate side, they lived in Marshall NC and shot the sheriff in a dispute over if they should support the union or not. They were racists who wrote about their actions. Im gonna show my kids that history. I'm not gonna frame it in a way that they should feel shame or whatever I'm just going to present the facts and answer questions.
The teachers unions 100% influence policy and curriculum standards for the department of ed. Why do you think they donate millions to campaigns, DNC, etc? They have influence over who is elected, how much they are paid, testing, etc.
Cool show me. Conflating policy with curriculum is a strawman. We are talking curriculum which the school administrators decide on. Based on national and state standards. I cant find anything on teacher unions advocating or changing curriculum. My father taught in SC for 28 years. Let me summarize is thoughts:
There isn't a sc teacher union. The national teacher union wasn't in charge of curriculum. We received state guidelines and built our curriculum around that . That's where we decided to teach world history to this age group and us history by that age group. To my knowledge the national teachers union had no say in those decisions. They were supposed to help in compensation bargaining.
We destroyed them economically.
Saved them from the bad tyranny and yoked them with our brand. It's called debt and we exported it all over the world.
On your point about what country didn't rise through violence. Oh I agree. What silly boomers don't understand is that the boom was reliant on the factors I outlined. We are the most powerful country in the world. No question. But the romantic types (you know the boomers who added 'under God' to our money and pledge allegiance in the 1950s), some think and act like we are a chosen Christian nationalist nation. That's just pure fantasy. We are dependents of violent men who lucked out having militarily inferior opponents and now we have all these resources that we've been playing capitalism with. It's gone well for a while. It's not sustainable
Our path has been far from perfect, but I don’t understand this attitude toward our country. We ushered in a global wave of democracy and saved an entire continent from tyranny, twice. The USA is pretty great.
Are you saying capitalism is not sustainable?
What attitude? I'm just informed and I don't overly romanticize our ascent. Was it cool that we fought off the French, British, Spanish for this land? Yeah I do like the romantics around that. But most everything else is exploitation and genocide until after the Civil right movement. Remember only a short 70 years ago it was totally cool to be overtly and systematically racist.
As far as saving the contentment of Europe twice. Sure ok. If you don't consider that we were just part of that saving alliance. Hitler lost in Russia as i recall . Thats at least what the books i read told me. We came out of that situation and Dominated everyone monetarily.
I love this country but I push back hard on its current citizens who proclaim us the greatest and spout Christian nationalism while attacking minority groups. Right now trump and DeSantis are riding a wave of zealotry and hate.
Concerning capitalism. It's not sustainable because it depends on infinite growth. The earth is finite. It seems like it's working great because we still have so many resources. When that runs out.. its going to be bad. We will likely kill ourselves as we will be in tough times and dumb zealots like Christian nationals who think they are chosen by god.. will start genociding. Just like they've done before.
Are there white supremacist groups who support Trump? Absolutely there are. However, you idea that there is some great percentage of the population that belongs to those groups or that the majority of either of their supporters belong in that category is just stupid. You are no different because you hate Christians and white people. Just fyi, Biden has said many more overtly racist things than trump has if you want to make that argument.
There is a significant portion of people who support trump bc they see him as an america first potus. Someone who thinks it is ridiculous to be borrowing $$$ we do not have to give to other countries- some of whom are our enemies. People who think it is crazy to allow china to buy our farmland and land near military installations. People who think other countries should pay their fair share to nato instead of america subsidizing their freedom. I am personally for all of those things, though I desperately want a candidate other than trump who would support those same issues.
Your capitalism argument is ridiculous. We are going to use up resources no matter what form of govt or society we live in. They are going to run out no matter what. Also, if we resources become so scarce, it might be muslims who start genociding as they have done before. (see how that works).
The majority is almost always going to do whatever is necessary to remain in control. When muslims were in control, they enslaved the minority. It is wrong no matter who does it. There is current slavery going on now, but it is not being carried out by white christians. Funny how it is not an issue you or any of the dem party rage against. Why is that? Is it only wrong when there is political gain to be had?
One last point for capitalism. The "poor" people in our american capitalist country rank in the upper echelon of wealth world wide. When our poor can drive their new car home in their brand name clothes and sit down in their subsidized home watching cable on their 50" flat screen tv while talking on their cell phone, and surfing the internet it is pretty moronic for people like you to bemoan capitalism over over the forms of govt/society other countries in the world where the "poor" are vastly worse off.
Would maybe Prague, West Virginia that little town after crossing the Ohio River be that second stop
Really TI cannot be accessed from Europe? If that is true it lends credence to the basement theory I have been considering.
You are great at writing history as you think everyone should see it. Keep it up. Europeans overall love America and visit the hell out of it and emulate us.
God bless America and that was the Christian God that our laws and whole society has been based on.
Lol. We’re not the greatness in pretty much any measure that you'd like to try. Except for military might.
The earth is finite but the solar system is not. Growth potential is unlimited.
.... idk how to reply to this. Starboy the solar system is definitely finite. Yes if we make it off this rock and start harvesting asteroids and stars that's cool. I was ALL about that in my 20s. Now.... well i think we might want to fix some issues here on earth first. I believe it will take almost as much water as exists on earth now to terraform mars...Mars.... so anyway living in space is science fiction. The problems here arent.
Listen up boy, dont be a bitch all your life. You cant handle people think different than you. Who the **** is white washing history? Im not white or a leftist rube why would I have white guilt? Even if I was white I wont feel guilt about tards that died over 100 years ago. Why do you feel guilt for something you and your family had no part in? Why is it you only hear about white guilt? Should every race feel guilt for the bad things people did hundreds of years ago? All races were guilty of slavery. Feel guilt for what you did not others...
Crawl back up in your mom. I shredded you in this thread. You exhibit bad opinions s on bad information. I attacked your sources and you cant defend them. Go fix yourself
I appreciate the reply, but this is just a wild perspective for me. The self-loathing, or country-loathing is just weird.
Pretty much every country came to be through vicious means. That’s how the world worked. No need to beat up the US for it. We made amends by shepherding democracy across the globe mostly in replacement of autocracy and persecution.
Regarding capitalism, would a shift to communism somehow adjust the consumption of the earth’s finite resources in a meaningful way? If not, what is your point?
Hey thanks I'm not trying to beat up USA for how it came to be. I'm trying to push back agai st the white Christian nationalist narratives that you see here. The perspective that somehow we are chosen and above all others and can do no wrong. It's cool to love your country. It's not cool to dismiss parts of history because it makes you uncomfortable. You have to love it worts and all. The person suggesting we should stop bringing historical things up because it makes his feelings hurt.... people who want to bury the past because they don't want their kids to consider it.... that type of outlook is dangerous.
The solar system is expanding and not finite.
My point is there always be potential for growth.
Your theory that capitalism is flawed because there is finite growth is just flat out wrong.
OMG lol you havent owned anything except yourself by showing you cant have a civil debate and go straight to the personal attacks. I didnt attack you until after you attacked me. Its cool to disagree and have different views. The difference is you cant handle that and what you have shown is that your full of hate of people with different views. You come across as a person thats racist, Christianophobia, hates American, insecure, and has a ton of small dick energy. Grow up boy...
I don't hate anyone you just have terrible opinions. Are you a Candace Owen's wannabe or something? Shes running a grift. You getting paid to be warped. What's your excuse for being so fragile? Acting holier than thou white Christian nationalism is what I'm criticizing. Why would you have a problem with that? Are you not informed that white Christian nationalism isn't Christianity? Maube you should focus on that nuance. Small brain energy.
Yet the hate is still in your words. So tell me what is a white Christian Nationalist? Also whats wrong with being white, Christian, or a Nationalist? Also I dont even like Owens but nice try keep up the personal snarky attacks. Good thing Im not a spelling nazi. What makes you think Im fragile? Because I have different views? Maybe your one of the racist that thinks Im some brown face of white supremacy. Im an old school linebacker and a US Army Infantry vet, in what way could you even think fragile? I dont cry and lie about people that dont agree with me. I dont require a safe space either and I hate soy milk. I doubt you could even walk in my shoes as a privileged white person that thinks they know better than everyone else but everybody is stupid except you and people of color must think and vote the same and follow your lead. Maybe you should take some time to self reflect while your sitting in your safe space sucking down a latte...
You can still buy a slave in Tripoli...today. Thanks Victoria Nuland and NATO.
I don't see any so why don't you flesh it out for me or do you just prefer to drop snarky comments that don't apply?
If it wasn't a white man buying a black man in america 130+ yrs ago it was/is not slavery - it doesn't count.
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