Daaaang...
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Same.
Can someone lay out the conspiracy theory here? Obama didn't kill Osama and then covered it up somehow and then somehow put out a hit on that team that ended up with getting terrorists to kill that team in Benghazi? Is that roughly right? Did Trump then go ahead and find Osama and kill him? And Biden is to blame or was part of the coverup and ALL of the top military brass and natl security folks were in on it and no one leaked anything but this grieving father was able to learn everything?
Fill in the gaps, please.
Who is this woman? She looks vaguely familiar. I think maybe I had her for English as a freshman. She was hotter back then.
That’s an inaccurate statement. Biden was in favor of waiting for additional intel to mitigate potential threat to our troops.
From what ive heard....
Hillary went to Obama while they (seal team 6) were already loaded and on their way that night, so he could not back out of it or disapprove it. We trusted Iran would keep Bin Laden under wraps for us so we could grab him in Pakistan. They did, but we also trusted they would keep him there. They didn't. They pulled him back, per this CIA operative. We executed the order and killed a double. While Americans were celebrating in front of the white house, Iran called and said " hey, since we know what you don't want anyone else to know, pay up..." We did. Two billion dollars of the payout went as hush money and is recorded through flight records as such.
In all honesty, from what I've heard it sounded like Hillary had something on Obama and basically made the raid happen and ordered it. They were actually fearful that Obama would say not to it. By the time he heard we were going for Bin laden, the boys were already flying through the mountains.
Hence the reason no photos or DNA or anything. Remember Sadam Hussein? Photos everywhere, DNA test everywhere to confirm. You couldn't hide the fact that we got him. This one was different from the start. Also, sounds like we got him at a later date, but it wasn't revealed who we actually got. However, they turned it into a trophy for the next election. Its hard to keep everyone quite.
It's a whole different ballgame with Audio and Video about to be released. You can bank the media will give full credible coverage!
But who cares, we got Football back!!!
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Not doubting anything you write here, but killing OBL v. killing Saddam was completely different. OBL was the leader of a very popular movement in the Middle East, and we likely feared killing him and then highly publicizing it with photos, pomp and circumstance, etc. would stir up a hornets' nest or at least activate otherwise quiet lone wolves. Hardly anyone was a Saddam supporter so killing him and publicizing it with photos was not going to entail the same risk.
I dont disagree with you. Im just stating what the Intelligence says.
It sounds like, based off of what this CIA operative has said who has audio and video evidence, that the reason we didn't had nothing to do with fear of a hornets nest and anything else, but the simple fact that we didn't get him when we said we did. Then covered it up with billions going to Iran and acted as if we took out the big bad wolf.
It's not often a CIA operative who is well respected or at least known, comes forward with evidence.
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Naaaaaahhhhhh. You have to have this mixed up in your head. There has never been a single day that this woman could've been considered hot.
I'm so done with these conspiracy theories. It's always talk, talk, talk and there is always an "...when you see the evidence we're about to release....". And then you never see actual, legit evidence. 🙄
Get back to us when a CIA operative actually does come forward with evidence.
I hear ya but unfortunately, I’m talking about the Real NWO! Just saying4 life brother!
Don't take it personally. I'm merely doing what he asked above, giving cliff notes as to what's going on.
On another note, they could come with evidence right now and actually show people and people still wouldn't care. You either do or you don't, and no evidence will change your mind. Again, we're just glad to have our football back! Most people have no cares as to what's going on, but oddly enough hate the fact that they don't actually know. Its kinda strange, imo.
People would care, if there was any evidence. But, to this point- there's not. So, it's just more wild ass made up nonsense in line with the Qanon, pizzagate, etc.
sounds personal, IYAM. I'm not sure what you mean by all of this other stuff.
It’s all just a bunch more noise from the Qanon idiots. The Navy Seal who killed Bin Laden(who just happens to be a Trump supporter...fwiw), is irritated about it and has been tweeting to refute these recent conspiracy theories. Here is one...
Tweet from Seal who took down Bin Laden.
Tweet from Seal who took down Bin Laden.
If you're truly (and blissfully) ignorant of the insane conspiracy theories of pizza gate and QAnon- I envy you, but I suspect you're trolling.
LOL additional intel? They were following around his courier for months. He was sitting in the middle of Pakistan for years. They knew he was no where near any troops.
Anymore hot takes?
I don't think a well-sourced and balanced article in the Washington Post qualifies as a "hot take" but you can work with whatever terminology makes you feel good.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-claim-he-opposed-taking-out-osama-bin-laden/
Welp, there it is! Time to get back to real life! I knew this smelled like Bigfoot.
Thanks for the fact check!
ANYTHING from the Washington Post is a hot take.
Honestly couldn't care less what the article says. I was sitting at Bagram AB when it happened.
Print that
What an embarrassment of a thread still on the main board. @Cris_Ard
If this were about Trump's golden showers in Russia, it'd be moved in skinny minute.
If this were about Trump's golden showers in Russia, it'd be moved in skinny minute.
Good for you. But that doesn't make you an expert on the discussions between/among Obama's national security team.
"Biden’s account of his position in that meeting, which was confirmed by the White House at the time, is not in dispute among those that were there.
In his 2014 memoir, Worthy Fights, Leon Panetta, Obama’s director of the Central Intelligence Agency at the time of the National Security Council meeting in question, wrote (on page 318) that at the meeting, “Biden argued that we still did not have enough confidence that bin Laden was in the compound, and he came out firmly in favor of waiting for more information.”
In his 2014 memoir, Duty, then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates wrote that he and Biden were “the two primary skeptics” of the raid during national security team meetings that were held in March and April 2011 to debate whether to strike the compound. Gates wrote that “Biden’s primary concern was the political consequences of failure.”
During the fateful meeting in question on April 28, 2011, Gates said “Biden was against the operation.”
And in her 2014 memoir, Hard Choices, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wrote only that “Vice President Biden remained skeptical” and had “concerns about the risks of a raid.”
This can’t be real, the Navy Seals have already said so. See post above.
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