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Daaaang...

If you're truly (and blissfully) ignorant of the insane conspiracy theories of pizza gate and QAnon- I envy you, but I suspect you're trolling.
I’m familiar with Q and the people who pretend to be Qanons. I’m also very familiar with just how fake most the Q interpretations are and that’s by design. Pizza Gate is a product of that.

There’s so much information out there, by design. What’s real and what’s not? I have no idea. But I’m not searching for answers nor do I care about knowing it all. I piut my faith in the big man upstairs and he gave us brains for a reason.

Qanons are about like Fox, they pretend to be on a certain side. They’re not. I don’t confuse Q with QAnons.

Our military is a great force and thankfully for them a lot of stuff is coming to light, I’ll just say that. Be thankful for our top military personnel.
 
I’m familiar with Q and the people who pretend to be Qanons. I’m also very familiar with just how fake most the Q interpretations are and that’s by design. Pizza Gate is a product of that.

There’s so much information out there, by design. What’s real and what’s not? I have no idea.

Qanons are about like Fox, they pretend to be on a certain side. They’re not. I don’t confuse Q with QAnons.

Our military is a great force and thankfully for them a lot of stuff is coming to light, I’ll just say that. Be thankful for our top military personnel.
But when is Trump going to start doing all the amazing things Q says he's going to do for us? Why is he taking so long to save the children?
 
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I’m familiar with Q and the people who pretend to be Qanons. I’m also very familiar with just how fake most the Q interpretations are and that’s by design. Pizza Gate is a product of that.

There’s so much information out there, by design. What’s real and what’s not? I have no idea.

Qanons are about like Fox, they pretend to be on a certain side. They’re not. I don’t confuse Q with QAnons.

Our military is a great force and thankfully for them a lot of stuff is coming to light, I’ll just say that. Be thankful for our top military personnel.
lol at anyone thinking 'Q' is real. You do realize that Q began dropping bread crumbs on 8chan right? Do you know what 8chan is? short story: its an anonymous board famous for its members trading child porn. Isn't it clever that Q chose such a place to bring the godly word to the masses. Santa claus is real folks.
 
But when is Trump going to start doing all the amazing things Q says he's going to do for us? Why is he taking so long to save the children?
You think human trafficking isn’t real? Or are you hoping it’s not?
 
lol at anyone thinking 'Q' is real. You do realize that Q began dropping bread crumbs on 8chan right? Do you know what 8chan is? short story: its an anonymous board famous for its members trading child porn. Isn't it clever that Q chose such a place to bring the godly word to the masses. Santa claus is real folks.
I don’t disagree with you. Sounds like you have it all figured out. Why’d you have go at Santa, lol.
 
Good for you. But that doesn't make you an expert on the discussions between/among Obama's national security team.

"Biden’s account of his position in that meeting, which was confirmed by the White House at the time, is not in dispute among those that were there.

In his 2014 memoir, Worthy Fights, Leon Panetta, Obama’s director of the Central Intelligence Agency at the time of the National Security Council meeting in question, wrote (on page 318) that at the meeting, “Biden argued that we still did not have enough confidence that bin Laden was in the compound, and he came out firmly in favor of waiting for more information.”

In his 2014 memoir, Duty, then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates wrote that he and Biden were “the two primary skeptics” of the raid during national security team meetings that were held in March and April 2011 to debate whether to strike the compound. Gates wrote that “Biden’s primary concern was the political consequences of failure.”

During the fateful meeting in question on April 28, 2011, Gates said “Biden was against the operation.”

And in her 2014 memoir, Hard Choices, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wrote only that “Vice President Biden remained skeptical” and had “concerns about the risks of a raid.”

Good for me? I was embedded with CJSOTF. Do you know what that is? Or do you need a url for it to mean something to you?

I was in the country, at the base these dudes took off from that smoked him. Sorry if I feel my own account of things that actually happened are more credible than what some politicians make up in a book for dolts to buy and claim it's credible. gtfo.

Bin Laden is dead. Thank God.

He wouldn't be if Joe Biden were president. That's a fact.
 
Good for me? I was embedded with CJSOTF. Do you know what that is? Or do you need a url for it to mean something to you?

I was in the country, at the base these dudes took off from that smoked him. Sorry if I feel my own account of things that actually happened are more credible than what some politicians make up in a book for dolts to buy and claim it's credible. gtfo.

Bin Laden is dead. Thank God.

He wouldn't be if Joe Biden were president. That's a fact.
no it's not.
 
Good for me? I was embedded with CJSOTF. Do you know what that is? Or do you need a url for it to mean something to you?

I was in the country, at the base these dudes took off from that smoked him. Sorry if I feel my own account of things that actually happened are more credible than what some politicians make up in a book for dolts to buy and claim it's credible. gtfo.

Bin Laden is dead. Thank God.

He wouldn't be if Joe Biden were president. That's a fact.

My grandfather was on the island and on the base that the Enola Gay departed from, but that doesn't make him an expert on the discussions between Truman, Byrnes, and Stimson.

And, it's the VP's job to make sure the POTUS is considering all the viewpoints and potential downsides to any action, especially when it involves an intrusion into a sovereign nation- and one as unreliable as Pakistan. The notion that Biden opposed killing Bin Laden is false. He wanted OBL dead just like the rest of us did.
 
no it's not.

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@AustinTiger77 has plenty of quotes above from Biden's counterparts claiming such.

I guess they aren't credible if it doesn't fit the argument?
 
My grandfather was on the island and on the base that the Enola Gay departed from, but that doesn't make him an expert on the discussions between Truman, Byrnes, and Stimson.

And, it's the VP's job to make sure the POTUS is considering all the viewpoints and potential downsides to any action, especially when it involves an intrusion into a sovereign nation- and one as unreliable as Pakistan. The notion that Biden opposed killing Bin Laden is false. He wanted OBL dead just like the rest of us did.

but he wouldn't pull the trigger.

and keep playing the sheep. you're quite good at it mate.

btw you have no idea what my job is in the military. lulz.
 
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@AustinTiger77 has plenty of quotes above from Biden's counterparts claiming such.

I guess they aren't credible if it doesn't fit the argument?
no, that doesn't mean Bin Laden wouldn't have been killed. it just means he wanted additional information before sending in troops to Pakistan. no where does it say he didn't want to kill Bin Laden
 
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no, that doesn't mean Bin Laden wouldn't have been killed. it just means he wanted additional information before sending in troops to Pakistan. no where does it say he didn't want to kill Bin Laden

you think Bin Laden couldn't have been tipped off while Joe grabbed a nap to ponder? lol k
 
you think Bin Laden couldn't have been tipped off while Joe grabbed a nap to ponder? lol k
idk the gov't was surveilling the compound for months before the assault, so no, as long as the ISI didn't know what we were doing i don't think bin laden would have found out.
 
idk the gov't was surveilling the compound for months before the assault, so no, as long as the ISI didn't know what we were doing i don't think bin laden would have found out.

so what additional intel did Biden need? If we were conducting round the clock intel on the compound for months and months, what else did he want to feel comfortable?

More conviction he's not the person I want running our country if shit hits the fan. He's just not a great leader imo.
 
so what additional intel did Biden need? If we were conducting round the clock intel on the compound for months and months, what else did he want to feel comfortable?

More conviction he's not the person I want running our country if shit hits the fan. He's just not a great leader imo.
i don't know, i'm not privy to the information that they had at the time. also, this could simply be a case of Biden playing devil's advocate like AustinTiger said. i don't have any of the answers, i just think it's asinine to think that Biden didn't want Bin Laden dead, or that Bin Laden would still be running around today if Biden were president.
 
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That’s an inaccurate statement. Biden was in favor of waiting for additional intel to mitigate potential threat to our troops.

So, when they were making the decision to start the mission to take him out, Biden said wait for more intel. That’s saying no to the raid to take him out.
 
So, when they were making the decision to start the mission to take him out, Biden said wait for more intel. That’s saying no to the raid to take him out.


You said: "Fact: Biden wasn’t in favor of killing Osama."

That's flat out wrong. Someone can be in favor of taking out OBL but have misgivings about a particular mission to carry that out. If you aren't capable of making that kind of distinction, I hope you have a very low stakes job.
 
You said: "Fact: Biden wasn’t in favor of killing Osama."

That's flat out wrong. Someone can be in favor of taking out OBL but have misgivings about a particular mission to carry that out. If you aren't capable of making that kind of distinction, I hope you have a very low stakes job.
So what in my post was incorrect? You are the one splitting hairs. The decision was made to proceed with the raid that took him out. Biden was not in favor of the raid.
 
So what in my post was incorrect? You are the one splitting hairs. The decision was made to proceed with the raid that took him out. Biden was not in favor of the raid.


It's not splitting hairs. There's a huge difference between "not in favor of the raid" as you just said and "wasn't in favor of killing Osama" which was your initial declaration. The first statement is about the particular set of facts/conditions that came in to play in making a decision about a specific mission, while the 2nd is very general statement suggesting that Biden didn't support killing OBL in any situation- which is not true.

I suspect that you were in favor of killing OBL. But at any cost? In every situation/circumstance? Doubtful.
 
Which is a fancy way of saying he didn’t have the balls

So, being cautious about deploying our best military assets suggests a lack of courage... I disagree, especially given the circumstances of this mission.

I suspect that had the mission gone sideways, you'd be second guessing Obama- wondering why he didn't wait for more intel and wondering why he was so careless. But we'll never know the answer to that hypothetical.
 
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Have they freed the children from Wayfair yet?
Let me ask you a serious question. Do you believe it’s possible that people put stuff out there on purpose to cloud what’s real? Wayfair was the biggest joke I’ve ever heard.
Wayfair is the type of stuff they put on purpose to discredit what is actually real. Human trafficking is real, but it seems less real in regards to wayfair, right?

Wayfair makes human trafficking fake. At least seem less real. Next thing your going to tell me you believe the stuff about drinking kids blood, hahah. This type stuff is the Bigfoot of Q. And it’s done on purpose. Don’t fall for that. Nobody actually believes that stuff, the internet and the influencers just want you to believe people believe it.
 
Let me ask you a serious question. Do you believe it’s possible that people put stuff out there on purpose to cloud what’s real? Wayfair was the biggest joke I’ve ever heard.
Wayfair is the type of stuff they put on purpose to discredit what is actually real. Human trafficking is real, but it seems less real in regards to wayfair, right?

Wayfair makes human trafficking fake. At least seem less real. Next thing your going to tell me you believe the stuff about drinking kids blood, hahah. This type stuff is the Bigfoot of Q. And it’s done on purpose. Don’t fall for that. Nobody actually believes that stuff, the internet and the influencers just want you to believe people believe it.


So, what is Q doing to stop human trafficking? So far all I've seen is misinformation and hysteria.
 
So, what is Q doing to stop human trafficking? So far all I've seen is misinformation and hysteria.
Ok. You’ve not answered one question, but man you’ve got opinions. No worries bro, you’re a step ahead of everyone! You’re all over this Q thing. They’re not fooling you.

Kudos and here’s to hoping everything mainstream is real and nothing else matters!

**edit: I’m not trying to convince you of something. In all honesty, I’ve just been having a conversation with you and asking you questions but you just keeping shouting”it’s fake” or “it’s a joke”. I don’t disagree with you and I’m not trying to tell you otherwise. But even if someone wanted to, you wouldn’t allow it. That’s my point. I was just talking to you, lol.

no love lost*
 
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It's not splitting hairs. There's a huge difference between "not in favor of the raid" as you just said and "wasn't in favor of killing Osama" which was your initial declaration. The first statement is about the particular set of facts/conditions that came in to play in making a decision about a specific mission, while the 2nd is very general statement suggesting that Biden didn't support killing OBL in any situation- which is not true.

I suspect that you were in favor of killing OBL. But at any cost? In every situation/circumstance? Doubtful.

Yes I was glad he was eliminated. Any cost? I fully believe those in the military who made the plan knew the risk.
Obama and Biden didn’t have a clue.
 
Ok. You’ve not answered one question, but man you’ve got opinions. No worries bro, you’re a step ahead of everyone! You’re all over this Q thing. They’re not fooling you.

Kudos and here’s to hoping everything mainstream is real and nothing else matters!

**edit: I’m not trying to convince you of something. In all honesty, I’ve just been having a conversation with you and asking you questions but you just keeping shouting”it’s fake” or “it’s a joke”. I don’t disagree with you and I’m not trying to tell you otherwise. But even if someone wanted to, you wouldn’t allow it. That’s my point. I was just talking to you, lol.

no love lost*
I asked a very straightforward question. If you wanted to have a conversation, you’d answer it and we’d have an exchange.
 
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