Democrats hate women.

[Willence]

This is literally the formerly held view by many, possible you, about Homosexuality. Transgenderism has been around for the entire history of humankind. It is way more common in non-Western civilizations, probably due to religious affiliation.

The "rise" is more likely due to people being much more comfortable and feeling safer to be open about themselves.

Again, someone else having more rights doesn't take away your rights.

This is so week-kneed and just intellectually dishonest because you don't ever want to take a stand on much of anything for whatever reason. Milk toast about everything doesn't work man. What rights are you talking about here? What rights of trans people are being taken away or are a threat? You need to define what you're chastising people about... for once. So I will wait to hear what you have to say about this. I'd like to know exactly what you think people want to take away.

 

[yoshi121374]

This is so week-kneed and just intellectually dishonest because you don't ever want to take a stand on much of anything for whatever reason. Milk toast about everything doesn't work man. What rights are you talking about here? What rights of trans people are being taken away or are a threat? You need to define what you're chastising people about... for once. So I will wait to hear what you have to say about this. I'd like to know exactly what you think people want to take away.

Really????

I take a stand on many,many topics. I have said I am not in favor of adults who transition after puberty playing sports, but I think that this demonization of trans people by calling them groomers and pedos is awful and wrong.

I have many times called you and others out for your flat ignorant and wrong stances about public educations.

I am very moderate on most topics,but I am pretty liberal socially. I am a live and let live guy. I don't care who you love as long as it's consensual adults, doesn't effect me.

I have stated many times that I identify as a Christian, and am on staff at a Church, but I support separation of Church and State. I want to respect and defend the rights of others to practice whatever religion they choose.

I am pro-choice
I am anti-capital punishment
I am pro-education
I am pro National Health Care

Anything else you want to know about me?

 

[WapPride]

Really????

I take a stand on many,many topics. I have said I am not in favor of adults who transition after puberty playing sports, but I think that this demonization of trans people by calling them groomers and pedos is awful and wrong.

I have many times called you and others out for your flat ignorant and wrong stances about public educations.

I am very moderate on most topics,but I am pretty liberal socially. I am a live and let live guy. I don't care who you love as long as it's consensual adults, doesn't effect me.

I have stated many times that I identify as a Christian, and am on staff at a Church, but I support separation of Church and State. I want to respect and defend the rights of others to practice whatever religion they choose.

I am pro-choice
I am anti-capital punishment
I am pro-education
I am pro National Health Care

Anything else you want to know about me?

Whatever you do, don't come to Texas then. It's backwards af over here.

Public schools would have to display Ten Commandments under bill passed by Texas Senate

The Senate also passed a bill that would set prayer and Bible reading times during the school day.

www.texastribune.org

 

[yoshi121374]

Whatever you do, don't come to Texas then. It's backwards af over here.

Public schools would have to display Ten Commandments under bill passed by Texas Senate

The Senate also passed a bill that would set prayer and Bible reading times during the school day.

www.texastribune.org

That crap kills me. Kids could literally not give a single F*** about praying in school. This is completely adults pushing this.

Reminds me of a meme I saw last week. You don't like us "indoctrinating" kids unless it's what you want indoctrinated.

 

[Willence]

Really????

I take a stand on many,many topics. I have said I am not in favor of adults who transition after puberty playing sports, but I think that this demonization of trans people by calling them groomers and pedos is awful and wrong.

I have many times called you and others out for your flat ignorant and wrong stances about public educations.

I am very moderate on most topics,but I am pretty liberal socially. I am a live and let live guy. I don't care who you love as long as it's consensual adults, doesn't effect me.

I have stated many times that I identify as a Christian, and am on staff at a Church, but I support separation of Church and State. I want to respect and defend the rights of others to practice whatever religion they choose.

I am pro-choice
I am anti-capital punishment
I am pro-education
I am pro National Health Care

Anything else you want to know about me?

So after your long diatribe you still didn't answer my questions. Go back and read what I asked you and then let me know your answers if you're inclined to do so.

You know my views on public education are not ignorant. You might disagree with me which is entirely your right but there is nothing ignorant that I say. I am well educated on these matters and have a very strong opinion that I recognize is a bit outside the mainstream. But that doesn't mean that I'm somehow ignorant. You are most certainly not the arbiter of what is ignorant and not ignorant.

 

[Willence]

Good read here on what's not happening but definitely is happening.

I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.

There are more than 100 pediatric gender clinics across the U.S. I worked at one. What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling.

www.thefp.com

 

[okclem]

They don't care about the trans issue other than it's their ticket back to banning gay marriage. That's ALL this is really about.

 

[yoshi121374]

So after your long diatribe you still didn't answer my questions. Go back and read what I asked you and then let me know your answers if you're inclined to do so.

You know my views on public education are not ignorant. You might disagree with me which is entirely your right but there is nothing ignorant that I say. I am well educated on these matters and have a very strong opinion that I recognize is a bit outside the mainstream. But that doesn't mean that I'm somehow ignorant. You are most certainly not the arbiter of what is ignorant and not ignorant.

Not sure you are a good arbiter of a diatribe...

I assume you mean the question about what rights are being taken away from trans people?

How about the basic right to love without being ridiculed, insulted, and shamed?

How about the recent laws being passed to outlaw Drag Shows/being dressed in drag in multiple cities?

How about trying to pass laws that outlaw teachers up through 12th grade discussing a students sexuality?

Yes, your blanket statements about Public Education are ignorant. You have made,on this board, accusations that a local school had put a litter box in the bathroom for a student who wanted to identify as a furry. You had to backpedal when proven that this wasn't true.

I am open to debate. I love debate.

 

[TigerRagRob]

Sad part is i dont think its the LBGT community pushing all of this. They have been hijacked by the pedo community and are being used as a trojan horse to make being pedo accepted. They are setting the LBGT community back 50 years with this crap. **** with the cubs and mama bear will show the claws and fangs. Dont **** with peoples kids. Thats a line too far and a point of no return.

 

[firegiver]

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2022.307163?role=tab

U.S. Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Size Report, 2030

The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market size was estimated at USD 2.1 billion in 2022 and is anticipated to grow at a CAGR of 11.25% from 2023 to 2030.

www.grandviewresearch.com

Sex reassignment is considered a great growth area for revenue for hospitals.

Oh cool is that for KIDS????? No. Now kindly back track your nonsense.

 

[Willence]

Not sure you are a good arbiter of a diatribe...

I assume you mean the question about what rights are being taken away from trans people?

How about the basic right to love without being ridiculed, insulted, and shamed?

How about the recent laws being passed to outlaw Drag Shows/being dressed in drag in multiple cities?

How about trying to pass laws that outlaw teachers up through 12th grade discussing a students sexuality?

Yes, your blanket statements about Public Education are ignorant. You have made,on this board, accusations that a local school had put a litter box in the bathroom for a student who wanted to identify as a furry. You had to backpedal when proven that this wasn't true.

I am open to debate. I love debate.

I'm not getting into this again but I was never proven wrong. I simply said that I could not verify it beyond the person that told me and I was uncomfortable arguing something that I didn't witness myself. But in another case I did witness a request for such a thing within the school that my kids go to which is a private school. And that's all I'm going to say about that subject.

Please point to me where in cities it is being outlawed for people to dress and drag. Show me one example of it. Show me where there is a basic right to not be shamed. Please point to the document that promises that. And then I'll point out how you completely disregard that basic right with the way that you treat some of the people on this board that you disagree with. It's hard when the things that you say come back to you having to live up to the standard you're setting for others.

That is not exactly what that law says in your misrepresenting it in terms of talking about a kid's sexuality. Further that's not a discussion for a teacher to have with the student. Not under any circumstance whatsoever. So basically at the end of it all you really don't have squat. That's what I thought.

And lastly I'll say there's nothing ignorant about my views on public education. You just get defensive and jump to conclusions without ever trying to understand. That's not my problem. It's yours and yours alone. So if there's any ignorance with respect to that matter I think you need to look in the mirror to see where it comes from. You're a biased party looking to confirm everything you believe at any turn. You're a partisan and as such don't really have an opinion that is open-minded. You just want to believe what you want to believe and you'll look for any excuse to believe it.

 

[Willence]

Oh cool is that for KIDS????? No. Now kindly back track your nonsense.

"According to a study conducted by Cedars Sinai in June 2020, approximately 78% of transgender males experienced gender dysphoria by the age of 7. The mean age to experience gender dysphoria was less in transgender males, which is about 6.2 years."

You obviously are willfully blind to this. Therefore it's not worth discussing anything with you. If you want to be blind to reality then go ahead and be blind to reality. Enjoy your weekend.

 

[yoshi121374]

"According to a study conducted by Cedars Sinai in June 2020, approximately 78% of transgender males experienced gender dysphoria by the age of 7. The mean age to experience gender dysphoria was less in transgender males, which is about 6.2 years."

You obviously are willfully blind to this. Therefore it's not worth discussing anything with you. If you want to be blind to reality then go ahead and be blind to reality. Enjoy your weekend.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/06/1161452175/anti-drag-show-bill-tennessee-trans-rights-minor-care-anti-lgbtq-laws

Texas Senate passes bills restricting some drag performances around children

The bills have featured harsh opposition, with some drag performers testifying in front of Senate committees. Opponents say the bills violate the First Amendment.

www.fox4news.com

SC state legislation could restrict drag performances

After Tennessee’s governor signed a bill into law restricting drag shows from taking place in public and in front of kids, some South Carolina legislators want to impose more restrictions on drag shows in the state.

www.live5news.com

Anti LGBTQ Bills 2023 – One Iowa Action

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Transgender are unnatural. If that makes me a Bigot I’ll wear the label loud and proud.

Trans is just a mental illness. These people need help, not instructions on how to cut their d!ck off.

I must totally agree with your statement

Transgender might be an adult choice and might describe a right

I see it as a mental illness and far from the norms of society

I see this push to normalize transgender folk as more along the lines of grooming more people into that

Trying to shame people who are born male or female into thinking they need to transition is nothing but in my opinion trying to build a tribe or community of transgenders instead of desling with what God gave you

 

[OleFastball]

It should go without saying kids should not be subjected to drag shows. We don’t let kids into the strip club do we?

The only reason you want a kid to see that stuff is to groom them into thinking it’s normal. It’s not normal age appropriate behavior and anyone subjecting children to that should be held accountable.

 

[BlueRidgedf]

"According to a study conducted by Cedars Sinai in June 2020, approximately 78% of transgender males experienced gender dysphoria by the age of 7. The mean age to experience gender dysphoria was less in transgender males, which is about 6.2 years."

You obviously are willfully blind to this. Therefore it's not worth discussing anything with you. If you want to be blind to reality then go ahead and be blind to reality. Enjoy your weekend.

That is ridiculous, you post about some study done by medical facility in Los Angeles, who can't wait to mutilate children for the right price. Just go ahead and admit it you want kids to have puberty blockers at 7. You are blind to reality that's for sure.

 

[scotchtiger]

They don't care about the trans issue other than it's their ticket back to banning gay marriage. That's ALL this is really about.

Really? I don’t think I know anyone who wants to ban gay marriage. I know it took Biden until his 70s to support gay marriage, but I think we’re all pretty much there these days.

 

[scotchtiger]

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/06/1161452175/anti-drag-show-bill-tennessee-trans-rights-minor-care-anti-lgbtq-laws

Texas Senate passes bills restricting some drag performances around children

The bills have featured harsh opposition, with some drag performers testifying in front of Senate committees. Opponents say the bills violate the First Amendment.

www.fox4news.com

SC state legislation could restrict drag performances

After Tennessee’s governor signed a bill into law restricting drag shows from taking place in public and in front of kids, some South Carolina legislators want to impose more restrictions on drag shows in the state.

www.live5news.com

Anti LGBTQ Bills 2023 – One Iowa Action

Honest question. Are these three items “anti-trans” or just common sense?

No biological boys in girls sports
No gender reassignment surgery on minors
No drag shows for children

I’m very moderate socially and don’t see how those are anything but just basic, logical rules.

 

[okclem]

Really? I don’t think I know anyone who wants to ban gay marriage. I know it took Biden until his 70s to support gay marriage, but I think we’re all pretty much there these days.

And as usual you'd be wrong, and arrogant in your wrongness

 

[Willence]

That is ridiculous, you post about some study done by medical facility in Los Angeles, who can't wait to mutilate children for the right price. Just go ahead and admit it you want kids to have puberty blockers at 7. You are blind to reality that's for sure.

What the hell? I am against all this not for it. Just trying to demonstrate to the chicken little crowd that is is going on.

 

[Willence]

Honest question. Are these three items “anti-trans” or just common sense?

No biological boys in girls sports
No gender reassignment surgery on minors
No drag shows for children

I’m very moderate socially and don’t see how those are anything but just basic, logical rules.

That's pretty much where I am. I don't want to tell people how to live their lives. But all the lefties here need to create a straw man argument so that they can make it sound like they're legitimate in the ground they stand on. They just aren't though. The same thing over and over again because they are best off when they turn us into little Hitlers.

 

[dpic73]

Honest question. Are these three items “anti-trans” or just common sense?

No biological boys in girls sports
No gender reassignment surgery on minors
No drag shows for children

I’m very moderate socially and don’t see how those are anything but just basic, logical rules.

Is there some empirical data we're not aware of that says watching a drag show is harmful to children? If there is and I'm not aware of it, then don't take your kids to one, other than that, the state has no business telling other parents where they can take their kids. Can kids watch movies at home that feature a man in a dress or will that harm them for life? Is it more harmful than indoctrinating them into gun culture at a young age?

 

[TigerRagRob]

And as usual you'd be wrong, and arrogant in your wrongness

Whats he wrong about? If you cant name what he is wrong about then who is really being arrogant then? The only thing you might could contend with is Biden. But when he was VP he and Obama didnt support gay marriage. So at what age did he flip? Also only he knows if anybody he knows wants to end gay marriage. Sure some dont support it but that doesnt mean he knows them. I havent heard anybody in recent years call for the end of gay marriage either tbh. I do remember when it passed some warned that the pedos would be next and we would slide down a dark path and people mocked them and said that would never happen. Yet here we are now and those fear mongers have been proven right. Now these people are going to destroy the LGBT movement by using them as a trojan horse to push the pedo agenda forward. The LGBT community has a choice to make. Much like proud southern people that never supported slavery etc you cant sit back and allow another group to hijack your movement. Pedos are your kkk. You cant allow them to use your flag and symbols to march under and spread their bullshit. Southern people should have beat the crap out of the kkk when they marched with the flag and never allowed them to get away with it. The LGBT community has a choice now. Either allow them to use you or fight back and reclaim your movement...

 

[scotchtiger]

And as usual you'd be wrong, and arrogant in your wrongness

Hmm. Two of those items are facts. I literally have had zero people in my friend, work or social circle express any desire to ban gay marriage in the last 5+ years.

Biden publicly stated that marriage was only between a man and a woman throughout his first term as VP. He was in his 70s before he came around.

I don’t know how many still oppose gay marriage, but I would think the number is a solid minority.

 

[scotchtiger]

Is there some empirical data we're not aware of that says watching a drag show is harmful to children? If there is and I'm not aware of it, then don't take your kids to one, other than that, the state has no business telling other parents where they can take their kids. Can kids watch movies at home that feature a man in a dress or will that harm them for life? Is it more harmful than indoctrinating them into gun culture at a young age?

Am I to assume that you agree with the first 2?

I think parents have a right to decide on the other stuff. I don’t think anyone has a right to present a flamboyant drag show to a minor without the parent’s consent.

 

[WapPride]

Hmm. Two of those items are facts. I literally have had zero people in my friend, work or social circle express any desire to ban gay marriage in the last 5+ years.

Biden publicly stated that marriage was only between a man and a woman throughout his first term as VP. He was in his 70s before he came around.

I don’t know how many still oppose gay marriage, but I would think the number is a solid minority.

Come to Texas sometime. There’s a sizable percentage of my firm that wants to ban it, and there are many peers I work with in Houston who want to ban it.

There’s also a ton of people who support it here, and I know anecdotal evidence is pretty worthless, but it’s not as rare as you’d expect.

 

[dpic73]

Am I to assume that you agree with the first 2?

I think parents have a right to decide on the other stuff. I don’t think anyone has a right to present a flamboyant drag show to a minor without the parent’s consent.

What do you mean do I agree with the first two? I disagree that Mrs. Doubtfire would be harmful to children if that's what you mean. Please tell me you don't think it is. ?

Who said anything about going to a drag event without a parent? Swear to god the Right is losing their minds over nothing; it's just insane the amount of time you people invest in demonizing people who are different from you. SMH

 

[nytigerfan]

Honest question. Are these three items “anti-trans” or just common sense?

No biological boys in girls sports
No gender reassignment surgery on minors
No drag shows for children

I’m very moderate socially and don’t see how those are anything but just basic, logical rules.

Define "drag shows". I have no problem with children being exposed to men dressed as women. If they are doing burlesque or something sexual, then yes, I don't think children should be there (the same would would apply to a sexual or burlesque straight show).

You guys seem so scared to expose children to cross dressing. It's weird. I dont think if my kid sees a man dressed as a woman, he is going to suddenly start wearing dresses.

It was only a few years ago that yall were opposed to seeing two guys kissing on TV. It's like you are scared that you might like it too much. I am sure @OleFastball is afraid to walk into a gay bar because he is scared he will end up with a cock in his mouth.

Here is a recent article about floriday agents being deployed to drag shows and reporting back that nothing wrong was happening:

Florida undercover agents reported no ‘lewd acts’ at drag show targeted by DeSantis

Gov. DeSantis’ administration has been cracking down on drag shows, which could escalate further as legislators eye new restrictions.

www.tampabay.com

 

[BlueRidgedf]

Define "drag shows". I have no problem with children being exposed to men dressed as women. If they are doing burlesque or something sexual, then yes, I don't think children should be there (the same would would apply to a sexual or burlesque straight show).

You guys seem so scared to expose children to cross dressing. It's weird. I dont think if my kid sees a man dressed as a woman, he is going to suddenly start wearing dresses.

It was only a few years ago that yall were opposed to seeing two guys kissing on TV. It's like you are scared that you might like it too much. I am sure @OleFastball is afraid to walk into a gay bar because he is scared he will end up with a cock in his mouth.

Here is a recent article about floriday agents being deployed to drag shows and reporting back that nothing wrong was happening:

Florida undercover agents reported no ‘lewd acts’ at drag show targeted by DeSantis

Gov. DeSantis’ administration has been cracking down on drag shows, which could escalate further as legislators eye new restrictions.

www.tampabay.com

The fact,you want to dress like a woman and bumping and grinding in front of 6 years olds is what's weird.

 

[dpic73]

The fact,you want to dress like a woman and bumping and grinding in front of 6 years olds is what's weird.

Says the simpleton who gets all his news from LibsofTikTok.

 

[nytigerfan]

The fact,you want to dress like a woman and bumping and grinding in front of 6 years olds is what's weird.

The fact that you are allowed to reproduce is whats weird.

 

[BlueRidgedf]

The fact that you are allowed to reproduce is whats weird.

Go play dress up with Dpic not little kids.