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Demonization of FBI leading to this?

Guy tries to breach FBI office, stand-off and then he ended up getting shot dead


A user of Truth Social with the shooter’s name was suggesting more people should attack the FBI.

Isolated nutjob or MAGA guy spurred by the outrage of the past couple of days to go Jan-6 on the FBI?
Well, it looks like we got our answer:


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Unless I missed it, I haven’t seen any reactions from the MAGA crowd on this board. I see a lot of them wanting to eliminate the FBI. You guys okay with what that guy did? Planning on doing something similar soon?
 
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Oh now the fbi’s a helpless victim?

taking violent action is wrong plain and simple.

but stfu fbi. Wh and fbi didnt say a peep about threats and violence towards the supreme court. I suppose one might take that as tacit approval of such behavior…guess that was just missed.
 
Well, it looks like we got our answer:


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Unless I missed it, I haven’t seen any reactions from the MAGA crowd on this board. I see a lot of them wanting to eliminate the FBI. You guys okay with what that guy did? Planning on doing something similar soon?

wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what it comes to. That’s what happens when you have a two tiered justice system. Two tiered justice systems don’t survive.
Has Hillary been raided yet?
 
Well, it looks like we got our answer:


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Unless I missed it, I haven’t seen any reactions from the MAGA crowd on this board. I see a lot of them wanting to eliminate the FBI. You guys okay with what that guy did? Planning on doing something similar soon?

I don't reckon we saw too many reactions here when a trans guy with purple hair showed up at a sitting SCOTUS' home to kill him and his family. In fact, a few on here brushed it off as not that big of a deal as he/him/they was arrested and no one hurt. These circumstances are great examples of why the country continues to move further apart on central principles. Things like protesting in front of a SCOTUS home or breaking into an FBI building are deemed ok due to political or social justice. The FBI/DOJ have done nothing to curb the SCOTUS protests but seem butthurt that the crazies on the right want to tear down or threaten the FBI/DOJ.

Personally for me, guy shows up with a gun, gets killed .......I'm good with that outcome. Our tax dollars don't have to fund him sitting in prison for 30 years for attempted murder. Good outcome
 
I don't reckon we saw too many reactions here when a trans guy with purple hair showed up at a sitting SCOTUS' home to kill him and his family. In fact, a few on here brushed it off as not that big of a deal as he/him/they was arrested and no one hurt. These circumstances are great examples of why the country continues to move further apart on central principles. Things like protesting in front of a SCOTUS home or breaking into an FBI building are deemed ok due to political or social justice. The FBI/DOJ have done nothing to curb the SCOTUS protests but seem butthurt that the crazies on the right want to tear down or threaten the FBI/DOJ.

Personally for me, guy shows up with a gun, gets killed .......I'm good with that outcome. Our tax dollars don't have to fund him sitting in prison for 30 years for attempted murder. Good outcome
I am for the fair application of the law and it seems you are too. Whether it’s an attempted murder of a SCOTUS judge, FBI agent, or private citizen, these are things that should be denounced and punished, whichever party one belongs to.
 
I am for the fair application of the law and it seems you are too. Whether it’s an attempted murder of a SCOTUS judge, FBI agent, or private citizen, these are things that should be denounced and punished, whichever party one belongs to.
Yes sir, big proponent of one law, one justice system. Should be applied pretty evenly
 
Yes sir, big proponent of one law, one justice system. Should be applied pretty evenly

so if some folks did some things and mostly peacefully burned fbi hq to the ground well thats just good old fashioned activism…nothing can be done
 
Guy tries to breach FBI office, stand-off and then he ended up getting shot dead


A user of Truth Social with the shooter’s name was suggesting more people should attack the FBI.

Isolated nutjob or MAGA guy spurred by the outrage of the past couple of days to go Jan-6 on the FBI?
....and we are STILL hearing about defund the police, and cop ambushes. I can't find anything you've posted about that, though.
Hmmm...doesn't fit your narrative?

(btw-guy that was shot dead, deserved it!)
 
....and we are STILL hearing about defund the police, and cop ambushes. I can't find anything you've posted about that, though.
Hmmm...doesn't fit your narrative?

(btw-guy that was shot dead, deserved it!)
Love the whataboutism. I find “defunding the police” stupid and ignorant. Like I said in another post, my grandpa spent 25 years as a cop. I was raised to respect the courage of people that put their lives on the line for us and deal with the worse that humanity has to offer on a regular basis.

MAGA world is inciting violence against FBI agents. The DOJ redacted the names of the agents that executed the warrant and somehow their names were leaked to Breibart. Only person that has the source warrant is Trump and his lawyers. So, are you smart enough to put 2 and 2 together and figure out who gave the info to Breibart and is endangering the agents lives and their families?

Do you think trying to put FBI agents at risk is commendable? Do you think that it shows integrity? Or that it was somehow justified? What kind of mental gymnastics are necessary to think that doxxing law enforcement agents is a good thing, an inquiring mind would like to know.
 
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I don't reckon we saw too many reactions here when a trans guy with purple hair showed up at a sitting SCOTUS' home to kill him and his family. In fact, a few on here brushed it off as not that big of a deal as he/him/they was arrested and no one hurt. These circumstances are great examples of why the country continues to move further apart on central principles. Things like protesting in front of a SCOTUS home or breaking into an FBI building are deemed ok due to political or social justice. The FBI/DOJ have done nothing to curb the SCOTUS protests but seem butthurt that the crazies on the right want to tear down or threaten the FBI/DOJ.

Personally for me, guy shows up with a gun, gets killed .......I'm good with that outcome. Our tax dollars don't have to fund him sitting in prison for 30 years for attempted murder. Good outcome
In the case you brought up, the guy was arrested by us Marshalls that were sent to protect the scotus on the order of Biden’s DOJ. So that kind of destroys your argument.

but we can play this game all day. You guys did not seem to care that a 10 year old impregnated rape victim had to travel out of state to get an abortion, but you were outraged that Brett Kavenaugh had to leave a fancy steak restaurant through the back door.
 
In the case you brought up, the guy was arrested by us Marshalls that were sent to protect the scotus on the order of Biden’s DOJ. So that kind of destroys your argument.

but we can play this game all day. You guys did not seem to care that a 10 year old impregnated rape victim had to travel out of state to get an abortion, but you were outraged that Brett Kavenaugh had to leave a fancy steak restaurant through the back door.
Why did he need protection? Because they allowed mobs of people to form outside of his house and the current admin did zilch about it ……social justice just like the BLM year of love. Is there a swarming group of protesters in front of Garlands house?

I’m pretty close to pro-choice with a few parameters so not sure that was me but also not sure what a 10 year old and an abortion has to do with a dual justice system? She was also raped by an illegal immigrant I believe so should I toss in border control?
 
Why did he need protection? Because they allowed mobs of people to form outside of his house and the current admin did zilch about it ……social justice just like the BLM year of love. Is there a swarming group of protesters in front of Garlands house?

I’m pretty close to pro-choice with a few parameters so not sure that was me but also not sure what a 10 year old and an abortion has to do with a dual justice system? She was also raped by an illegal immigrant I believe so should I toss in border control?

the admin did zilch, yet federal Marshalls - sent by the DOJ - arrested that dude. You hear yourself, right?
 
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the admin did zilch, yet federal Marshalls - sent by the DOJ - arrested that dude. You hear yourself, right?
The DOJ chose not to enforce the federal statute that makes it illegal to protest a private residence. They wanted people in their face. They didn’t do anything to discourage the behavior.

Marshals are mandatory when credible threats are made against officials.
 
wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what it comes to. That’s what happens when you have a two tiered justice system. Two tiered justice systems don’t survive.
Has Hillary been raided yet?
YES... she has... You are making stuff up to support a theory of a two tier system. The FBI raided her home and took her stuff. Then the FBI raided the state department and seized servers there. You KNOW that happened... it was 2015-2016, but you are spouting BS.
 
YES... she has... You are making stuff up to support a theory of a two tier system. The FBI raided her home and took her stuff. Then the FBI raided the state department and seized servers there. You KNOW that happened... it was 2015-2016, but you are spouting BS.
She was subpoenaed and then afterwards deleted every email and acid scrubbed every single device with proof on it before the deposition. They never got a warrant and raided her home or business. She was then deposed but the DOJ and FBI decided not to file charges because there was no intent.

Don’t believe her personal address was ever raided with 30 FBI agents. Happy to be proven wrong though.
 
She was subpoenaed and then afterwards deleted every email and acid scrubbed every single device with proof on it before the deposition. They never got a warrant and raided her home or business. She was then deposed but the DOJ and FBI decided not to file charges because there was no intent.

Don’t believe her personal address was ever raided with 30 FBI agents. Happy to be proven wrong though.
That's not true either. And before you attack the source, this guy also regularly fact-checks Biden.

"Trump and some of his media defenders went back to his old chestnut about how former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been permitted to "acid wash" emails, a fabrication loosely based on the fact that an email-deletion software program happens to be called BleachBit; Fox's Watters was especially literal, falsely claiming Tuesday that Clinton had "poured acid" on emails."

 
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That's not true either. And before you attack the source, this guy also regularly fact-checks Biden.

"Trump and some of his media defenders went back to his old chestnut about how former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been permitted to "acid wash" emails, a fabrication loosely based on the fact that an email-deletion software program happens to be called BleachBit; Fox's Watters was especially literal, falsely claiming Tuesday that Clinton had "poured acid" on emails."

That’s your fact check? That the nomenclature for wiping devices is wrong?

I guess this is where we’re at now.
 
In the case you brought up, the guy was arrested by us Marshalls that were sent to protect the scotus on the order of Biden’s DOJ. So that kind of destroys your argument.

but we can play this game all day. You guys did not seem to care that a 10 year old impregnated rape victim had to travel out of state to get an abortion, but you were outraged that Brett Kavenaugh had to leave a fancy steak restaurant through the back door.
Oh look at that whAtABouTisM

Also, pretty sure the guy turned himself in, so…
 
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That's not true either. And before you attack the source, this guy also regularly fact-checks Biden.

"Trump and some of his media defenders went back to his old chestnut about how former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been permitted to "acid wash" emails, a fabrication loosely based on the fact that an email-deletion software program happens to be called BleachBit; Fox's Watters was especially literal, falsely claiming Tuesday that Clinton had "poured acid" on emails."

God you’re stupid
 
Facts matter.......to some people.
That’s the problem, it’s only to some people.

Look at what is coming out now. Attorneys for Trump are on the record lying about NO classified documents being held at the resort in June. Which is apparently why there’s an obstruction of justice component to this.


So, the MAGA world / GOP was all too happy to be indignant and call this an abuse of power when in reality Trump a) took classified documents b) refused to turn the over c) lied about having them.

So, the facts are clearly backing up the assertion there was wrong doing and refusal to collaborate in good faith, leaving the DOJ no choice. But hey, overreacting was a smart political move. Fired up the base, it’s helping with fueling another presidential run, and Trump Jr was tweeting asking for donations. So, for any sucker that donated for the stop the steal BS that wasn’t used for anything related to that cause, there’s another great opportunity to be a sucker again!

Don’t get me started about the new excuses that change every day that gullible suckers will eat up. Today’s excuse is that any doc that Trump takes home is automatically declassified, 😂 Let’s ignore that tha it’s absolutely not how the declassification process works. Trump does have authority to declassify docs, but there’s a process and the declassification is logged and the docs marked as declassified. Not at all what happened here. But hey, some people are more than willing to eat shovels full of horseshit to support Trump. I wonder what the excuse will be tomorrow.
 
That’s the problem, it’s only to some people.

Look at what is coming out now. Attorneys for Trump are on the record lying about NO classified documents being held at the resort in June. Which is apparently why there’s an obstruction of justice component to this.


So, the MAGA world / GOP was all too happy to be indignant and call this an abuse of power when in reality Trump a) took classified documents b) refused to turn the over c) lied about having them.

So, the facts are clearly backing up the assertion there was wrong doing and refusal to collaborate in good faith, leaving the DOJ no choice. But hey, overreacting was a smart political move. Fired up the base, it’s helping with fueling another presidential run, and Trump Jr was tweeting asking for donations. So, for any sucker that donated for the stop the steal BS that wasn’t used for anything related to that cause, there’s another great opportunity to be a sucker again!

Don’t get me started about the new excuses that change every day that gullible suckers will eat up. Today’s excuse is that any doc that Trump takes home is automatically declassified, 😂 Let’s ignore that tha it’s absolutely not how the declassification process works. Trump does have authority to declassify docs, but there’s a process and the declassification is logged and the docs marked as declassified. Not at all what happened here. But hey, some people are more than willing to eat shovels full of horseshit to support Trump. I wonder what the excuse will be tomorrow.
Yep, not sure how he weasels out of that one but another point is he's not even allowed to take them to his home in the first place.

The Presidential Records Act, or PRA, governs the maintenance of presidential records. It was passed in 1978, after former President Richard Nixon sought to destroy recordings made in the White House that documented activities related to the Watergate scandal, David S. Ferriero, archivist of the United States who is in charge of NARA, explained in a 2017 publication for the National Archives.

When a president leaves office, the archivist takes custody of the records from that administration and is responsible for their preservation and for providing access to the public, according to a Congressional Research Service report.

“The Presidential Records Act requires that all records created by presidents be turned over to the National Archives at the end of their administrations,” NARA said in its Jan. 31 statement.

Jason R. Baron, a professor at the University of Maryland and former director of litigation at NARA, cited the PRA when we asked him to evaluate Fitton’s claim. The PRA was “enacted to ensure that the American people — not the president — own records created or received by a president when in office,” he told us by email.

“A president has no legal right to tear up, shred, or otherwise dispose of copies of records that he creates or receives while in office (including his own notes or annotations on documents concerning official business),” Baron said.

He noted that the PRA allows a sitting president to dispose of official records only after consulting with the archivist.

Baron also said that a president doesn’t have “the right to decide for himself that he will take boxes containing presidential records to his own residence after he leaves office, even if it is allegedly for the purpose of transferring them to a presidential library.”


“The PRA specifies that upon the conclusion of a president’s time in office, the Archivist assumes legal control of presidential records, and the Archivist alone is empowered to decide where those records will be housed,” Baron said.

 
That’s the problem, it’s only to some people.

Look at what is coming out now. Attorneys for Trump are on the record lying about NO classified documents being held at the resort in June. Which is apparently why there’s an obstruction of justice component to this.


So, the MAGA world / GOP was all too happy to be indignant and call this an abuse of power when in reality Trump a) took classified documents b) refused to turn the over c) lied about having them.

So, the facts are clearly backing up the assertion there was wrong doing and refusal to collaborate in good faith, leaving the DOJ no choice. But hey, overreacting was a smart political move. Fired up the base, it’s helping with fueling another presidential run, and Trump Jr was tweeting asking for donations. So, for any sucker that donated for the stop the steal BS that wasn’t used for anything related to that cause, there’s another great opportunity to be a sucker again!

Don’t get me started about the new excuses that change every day that gullible suckers will eat up. Today’s excuse is that any doc that Trump takes home is automatically declassified, 😂 Let’s ignore that tha it’s absolutely not how the declassification process works. Trump does have authority to declassify docs, but there’s a process and the declassification is logged and the docs marked as declassified. Not at all what happened here. But hey, some people are more than willing to eat shovels full of horseshit to support Trump. I wonder what the excuse will be tomorrow.
FYI if you want to talk about truth and honesty it’s prob best to not link CNN
 
FYI if you want to talk about truth and honesty it’s prob best to not link CNN
Come on, man, you can do better than this and you know it. I have seen you counter arguments with great points. Playing the ostrich head in the sand by going “muh but but CNN” is weak. They’re not even the ones who broke the info, they are just relaying it.

Please address the real points me and @dpic73 are making (see his factual account of the actual rules regarding presidential documents).
 
Come on, man, you can do better than this and you know it. I have seen you counter arguments with great points. Playing the ostrich head in the sand by going “muh but but CNN” is weak. They’re not even the ones who broke the info, they are just relaying it.

Please address the real points me and @dpic73 are making (see his factual account of the actual rules regarding presidential documents).
Great post by you but you've really seen him make "great points?" 🤣
 
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Oh look at that whAtABouTisM

Also, pretty sure the guy turned himself in, so…

yes, he arrived at the residence, saw the US Marshalls posted there by the Biden admin, and chickened out. Later, he called to report himself and was arrested by said amUS Marshalls nice try
 
Love the whataboutism. I find “defunding the police” stupid and ignorant. Like I said in another post, my grandpa spent 25 years as a cop. I was raised to respect the courage of people that put their lives on the line for us and deal with the worse that humanity has to offer on a regular basis.

MAGA world is inciting violence against FBI agents. The DOJ redacted the names of the agents that executed the warrant and somehow their names were leaked to Breibart. Only person that has the source warrant is Trump and his lawyers. So, are you smart enough to put 2 and 2 together and figure out who gave the info to Breibart and is endangering the agents lives and their families?

Do you think trying to put FBI agents at risk is commendable? Do you think that it shows integrity? Or that it was somehow justified? What kind of mental gymnastics are necessary to think that doxxing law enforcement agents is a good thing, an inquiring mind would like to know.
So you seriously think Trump gave out the names of FBI agents?
WTF about this catch phrase whataboutism? I could go back thru hundreds of post and direct this same point to all the democrat's. It's not whataboutism, is called a level playing field.

Tell me about cops being ambushed!
 
yes, he arrived at the residence, saw the US Marshalls posted there by the Biden admin, and chickened out. Later, he called to report himself and was arrested by said amUS Marshalls nice try

i also admired the way the biden admin was so outspoken in denouncing violence and intimidation against the supreme court. Really helped calm things down. Good to see the adults acting like adults you know
 
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That’s the problem, it’s only to some people.

Look at what is coming out now. Attorneys for Trump are on the record lying about NO classified documents being held at the resort in June. Which is apparently why there’s an obstruction of justice component to this.


So, the MAGA world / GOP was all too happy to be indignant and call this an abuse of power when in reality Trump a) took classified documents b) refused to turn the over c) lied about having them.

So, the facts are clearly backing up the assertion there was wrong doing and refusal to collaborate in good faith, leaving the DOJ no choice. But hey, overreacting was a smart political move. Fired up the base, it’s helping with fueling another presidential run, and Trump Jr was tweeting asking for donations. So, for any sucker that donated for the stop the steal BS that wasn’t used for anything related to that cause, there’s another great opportunity to be a sucker again!

Don’t get me started about the new excuses that change every day that gullible suckers will eat up. Today’s excuse is that any doc that Trump takes home is automatically declassified, 😂 Let’s ignore that tha it’s absolutely not how the declassification process works. Trump does have authority to declassify docs, but there’s a process and the declassification is logged and the docs marked as declassified. Not at all what happened here. But hey, some people are more than willing to eat shovels full of horseshit to support Trump. I wonder what the excuse will be tomorrow.
Lol! Hey genius!! Guess what?? All Presidents have the right to declassify ANYTHING THEY WANT TO.
GUESS WHAT ELSE.?? He told the Secret Service he was taking DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
Guess what else? He did it a YEAR AND A HALF AGO!
Guess what else? They subpoenaed him two months ago and his lawyers were cooperating!
OMG you will believe anything the media tells you. They. Have. Nothing.
There were over a hundred agents on the ground, in the air, out on the water. They drove in massive trucks and made the biggest staged media shit show they could for a big fat nothing burger. They spent 9&1/2 hours ransacking the place leaving it a disheveled mess. It was pure political intimidation but it has back fired enormously.
 
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