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DHEC COVID19 Update (it’s not good)

Because that's your company line. And SC is a red state, so obviously we are handling it poorly because of Trump's lack of leadership. I've read it at least 1,000 times on this board.

LOL at ghosts.

The point was, you think the dude you quoted was correct in his conclusion that NY was trending down compared to SC based testing numbers, so they were handling it better than us. But it's apples and oranges.

Just for the record, my company line is that ALL politicians are corrupt and inept and should be replaced regardless of party. Trump is just the most visible of the entire incompetent bunch (537 elected federal officials), all of which are destined to historical obscurity. Seeing everything as a picking on Trump specifically is the same as seeing ghosts. I personally believe (won't try to make up stats) and thought so at the time that rather than have a timely and measured response, the US has schizophrenically vacillated between overreaction in both extremes resulting in a growing spread of the virus and a destruction of our economy, both a detriment to our way of life. We ignored the virus when a milder response was needed, then overreacted by closing everything essentially destroying the current economy, then opened the floodgates of the treasury to try buy off the pain cased by the overreaction essentially destroying the future economy. Now there is a call to re-close the economy. All of these events have multiple fathers from both parties, yet like a Jerry Springer show everyone denies responsibility. Osama Bin Laden himself could not have wished for more.

As for the sarcastic point in my original response, every person in these arguments tries to use stats, analysis and logic to defend a balkanized position with regard to this virus and fails to recognize that 1) the virus mutates and changes, 2) the responses are always behind the events, 3) more data should lead to changes in forecasts, policy and response, 4) leaders of both parties have an agenda that is not related to your health or the US economy, but to them staying in office, but mostly 5) they really don't understand the statistics, the statistics are not comparable or they are victims of statistics that are politically derived.
 
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Dear NY.

You have 4 times the population of SC. Yet you have 8 times the number of cases. You also have 32 times the number of deaths as SC. So whose death rate is higher? If you didn't have another case going forward, and we have the same number of daily cases going forward, it'd take 243 days for us to catch up to you. How your state has handled this is criminal.

So NY, let me end this by saying. shut the F up.

BTW, NJ and MA, shut the F up as well. Your number aren't any better.
100% this...Also, you could take the total deaths combined of Cali, Texas and Florida...and you'd still need to roughly triple it to equal the death toll of NY/NJ.
 
Oh no i’ve been exposed!

Its weird how obsessed you guys are with me ITT. Kind of creepy, honestly.
Wants everybody to look at him. Posts like a twelve year old girl to be seen. Posts in a look at me fashion in multiple threads daily. Thinks it's creepy we see him.

Hard to explain that.

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Just for the record, my company line is that ALL politicians are corrupt and inept and should be replaced regardless of party. Trump is just the most visible of the entire incompetent bunch (537 elected federal officials), all of which are destined to historical obscurity. Seeing everything as a picking on Trump specifically is the same as seeing ghosts. I personally believe (won't try to make up stats) and thought so at the time that rather than have a timely and measured response, the US has schizophrenically vacillated between overreaction in both extremes resulting in a growing spread of the virus and a destruction of our economy, both a detriment to our way of life. We ignored the virus when a milder response was needed, then overreacted by closing everything essentially destroying the current economy, then opened the floodgates of the treasury to try buy off the pain cased by the overreaction essentially destroying the future economy. Now there is a call to re-close the economy. All of these events have multiple fathers from both parties, yet like a Jerry Springer show everyone denies responsibility. Osama Bin Laden himself could not have wished for more.

As for the sarcastic point in my original response, every person in these arguments tries to use stats, analysis and logic to defend a balkanized position with regard to this virus and fails to recognize that 1) the virus mutates and changes, 2) the responses are always behind the events, 3) more data should lead to changes in forecasts, policy and response, 4) leaders of both parties have an agenda that is not related to your health or the US economy, but to them staying in office, but mostly 5) they really don't understand the statistics, the statistics are not comparable or they are victims of statistics are politically derived.
Then we agree on a lot... just not on the point of the post you quoted. Me mentioning Trump was not because I'm his defender. He has plenty of warts. But this board has turned into a politic war zone. You just got grazed with some cross fire. If I have to read how this is all his fault many more times...

The virus sucks and we are playing catch up. No more, no less iyam.
 
I’m glad to see that you’re concerned about the financial well being of America’s restaurant workers and that you fully support moving to a living wage compensation model for them so that they no longer need to rely on tips.

sign me up.

you see, I'm not some sheep like yourself. I can see the good on both ends.
 
sign me up.

you see, I'm not some sheep like yourself. I can see the good on both ends.
Which end am I not seeing the good on? And not trying to be a smartass on this one, legitimately not sure what the other end is you’re referring to?
 
it won’t improve unless/until people stay out of bars/restaurants/most retail establishments & wear masks anytime they are out of their homes & are within 10 feet of others.
But riots are fine. Jfc dude. Your fam must be a nervous wreck.
 
But riots are fine. Jfc dude. Your fam must be a nervous wreck.

My family is fine, thanks for your concern. We are privileged in most regards. While my wife is in a high risk category for complications from this virus, we are able to work from home, get take-out from restaurants, and we get most of our groceries delivered. We go for hikes/walks/runs/bike-rides, hang out on the beach- all safely distant from others. Our lives didn't revolve around hanging out in bars/restaurants before this virus, so perhaps we aren't feeling the sting as much as some others are on that front. For what it's worth, my wife's endocrinologist has had 5 of her Type 1 Diabetes patients wind up in the hospital because of this virus, one of whom died alone in a hospital room at 37 years of age. So, we aren't "a nervous wreck" but we are taking it seriously because it's fckn serious.

And who's talking about riots? Completely non sequitur in this discussion...
 
Dear NY.

You have 4 times the population of SC. Yet you have 8 times the number of cases. You also have 32 times the number of deaths as SC. So whose death rate is higher? If you didn't have another case going forward, and we have the same number of daily cases going forward, it'd take 243 days for us to catch up to you. How your state has handled this is criminal.

So NY, let me end this by saying. shut the F up.

BTW, NJ and MA, shut the F up as well. Your number aren't any better.

First, I take no pleasure in the gross incompetence of the SC leadership because most of my family still lives there.

Second, let's assume those numbers you quoted are accurate (i am not looking them up). But look at this curve (SC): https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/south-carolina-coronavirus-cases.html

Now look at this one (NYC): https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/new-york-coronavirus-cases.html

Any questions? No? Now shut the F up.
 
My family is fine, thanks for your concern. We are privileged in most regards. While my wife is in a high risk category for complications from this virus, we are able to work from home, get take-out from restaurants, and we get most of our groceries delivered. We go for hikes/walks/runs/bike-rides, hang out on the beach- all safely distant from others. Our lives didn't revolve around hanging out in bars/restaurants before this virus, so perhaps we aren't feeling the sting as much as some others are on that front. For what it's worth, my wife's endocrinologist has had 5 of her Type 1 Diabetes patients wind up in the hospital because of this virus, one of whom died alone in a hospital room at 37 years of age. So, we aren't "a nervous wreck" but we are taking it seriously because it's fckn serious.

And who's talking about riots? Completely non sequitur in this discussion...
And you're taking precautions as u should. The other 99% of us need to go about our business.
 
And you're taking precautions as u should. The other 99% of us need to go about our business.


That 99% figure is bullsh!t. I can tell you, the average fat f#ck I see out and about living their best life right now is going to be in trouble if they get this virus. Hypertension, heart disease, obesity, and type 2 diabetes all make it more difficult to escape this virus w/o serious trouble. Close to 50% of the population has one or more of those issues.
 
Positive test rate @ 22.3% is spectacularly bad.

The pediatric cases are horrible news. Would like to learn more about those children. Underlying conditions? Prolonged exposure to infected adults?

Glad they are reporting the # of patients on vents (188), but out of how many available? Would also like to know about ICU/negative pressure capacity. https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/so...d-cases-mis-c-associated-covid-19-daily-covid
COVID is a joke. Do you know what the mortality rate is? A fraction of the flu. Please look at facts
 
That 99% figure is bullsh!t. I can tell you, the average fat f#ck I see out and about living their best life right now is going to be in trouble if they get this virus. Hypertension, heart disease, obesity, and type 2 diabetes all make it more difficult to escape this virus w/o serious trouble. Close to 50% of the population has one or more of those issues.
Facts are a funny thing aren't they. Please use them otherwise you look ignorant.
 
Facts are a funny thing aren't they. Please use them otherwise you look ignorant.

My posts are based on what I'm seeing at the medical center where I work and in the other medical centers in our system. Funny thing- the Dr's and nurses who are taking care of these patients don't seem to think it's a joke... If you feel that way, then go live your life and let the chips fall where they may. Good luck out there.
 
My posts are based on what I'm seeing at the medical center where I work and in the other medical centers in our system. Funny thing- the Dr's and nurses who are taking care of these patients don't seem to think it's a joke... If you feel that way, then go live your life and let the chips fall where they may. Good luck out there.
Funny. My family and friends work in the medical industry and, more than not, seem to have a much different take than you. That is why looking at the actual numbers make the most sense. The most important metric is mortality rate. I have a friend who is a doctor who was actually reprimanded because he refused to report a number of deaths as COVID related when they weren't. The hospitals receive additional money for every COVID patient and death. They also receive additional money for every person put on a ventilator with COVID. How perverse is that??? To be clear, I am NOT saying COVID is not something we should worry about. I am saying that it is much less of an issue than the typical flu.
 
That 99% figure is bullsh!t. I can tell you, the average fat f#ck I see out and about living their best life right now is going to be in trouble if they get this virus. Hypertension, heart disease, obesity, and type 2 diabetes all make it more difficult to escape this virus w/o serious trouble. Close to 50% of the population has one or more of those issues.
I agree. We have an obesity problem more so than a COVID problem. Just about every patient they show in the hosp or pics of those that have died, are severely obese.
 
Funny. My family and friends work in the medical industry and, more than not, seem to have a much different take than you. That is why looking at the actual numbers make the most sense. The most important metric is mortality rate. I have a friend who is a doctor who was actually reprimanded because he refused to report a number of deaths as COVID related when they weren't. The hospitals receive additional money for every COVID patient and death. They also receive additional money for every person put on a ventilator with COVID. How perverse is that??? To be clear, I am NOT saying COVID is not something we should worry about. I am saying that it is much less of an issue than the typical flu.


Your "friend who is a doctor" should report these as fraud. In fact, he's required to, or he could also be on the hook for any fallout. And, in a fee for service model, I don't think it's at all perverse for providers to get paid more for a higher level of care. And, there isn't a single credible medical professional who would claim that "it is much less of an issue than the typical flu."
 
I agree. We have an obesity problem more so than a COVID problem. Just about every patient they show in the hosp or pics of those that have died, are severely obese.

Obesity is huge problem, and it's worse among hispanic and african american populations- which is one of the reasons their outcomes are so bad.
 
Your "friend who is a doctor" should report these as fraud. In fact, he's required to, or he could also be on the hook for any fallout. And, in a fee for service model, I don't think it's at all perverse for providers to get paid more for a higher level of care. And, there isn't a single credible medical professional who would claim that "it is much less of an issue than the typical flu."
You are flat out wrong. Many doctors believe this is much less severe than the flu and the data backs this up. Also, you misread my post, the doctor got in trouble because he refused to report a death as COVID when it was NOT. That is fraud. He was reprimanded for NOT lying.
 
You are flat out wrong. Many doctors believe this is much less severe than the flu and the data backs this up. Also, you misread my post, the doctor got in trouble because he refused to report a death as COVID when it was NOT. That is fraud. He was reprimanded for NOT lying.


What he’s suggesting would fall under “waste, fraud, and abuse” so- is he’s aware of it, he has to report it. He should call: (1-800-633-4227). TTY users can call 1-877-486-2048.

The doctors I work with in a hospital tell me that what they are seeing is far worse than a typical flu. Maybe they are lying.
 
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