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Did y’all see the anti-vax couple whose kid just died of measles?

Also I would ask, are the 20-30 million unvetted illegals that are here vaccinated? If not what are your thoughts?
I dont believe that mass covid vaccinations are currently necessary although CDC recommends them. I thought brett meir said six million illegals. trump is the one who gives those high numbers but it is wise not to believe him when he states numbers on anything. And beleive it or not, the word amongst my PA and doctor buddies is that Mexicans like to get vaccinations since many of them have not been previously afforded that level of care in their upbringing.
 
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Speaking of COVID and vaccines, this is relevant:

BREAKING: North Carolina Supreme Court has given a family the green light to sue their school district after their son was allegedly vaccinated with a COVID mRNA injection without parental consent.

Tanner Smith, 14, went to a clinic for a COVID-19 test after a football team outbreak, not expecting a vaccine. He told workers he didn’t want the vaccine and lacked parental consent. When they couldn’t reach his mother, a worker allegedly instructed another to administer the vaccine anyway, mother Emily Happel and Smith allege in legal briefs.
More of a parental consent issue than a covid issue. Doesnt mean they will win the case or that the case has been decided. The parents just survived a preliminary motion to dismiss, i bet. The key though is nominal and Minimal damages i bet. No one going to get much money out of that. What happened? did the kid have a rough day as a reaction? no real damages there. or did his pecker fall off as a result of the vaccination? now that might would be a case, although still a longshot, since vaccine comanies and providers enjoy a wide scope of immunity and limited liability payments by federal statute. Otherwise, i dont see any real relevance.
 
More of a parental consent issue than a covid issue. Doesnt mean they will win the case or that the case has been decided. The parents just survived a preliminary motion to dismiss, i bet. The key though is nominal and Minimal damages i bet. No one going to get much money out of that. What happened? did the kid have a rough day as a reaction? no real damages there. or did his pecker fall off as a result of the vaccination? now that might would be a case, although still a longshot, since vaccine comanies and providers enjoy a wide scope of immunity and limited liability payments by federal statute. Otherwise, i dont see any real relevance.
There’s no way you’re a parent. That’s egregious, to subject a child to any type of medical procedure without consent of parent is crazy unless it’s life saving. That is terrible and who cares about the money, the fact you’re attempting to justify that is crazy.
 
There’s no way you’re a parent. That’s egregious, to subject a child to any type of medical procedure without consent of parent is crazy unless it’s life saving. That is terrible and who cares about the money, the fact you’re attempting to justify that is crazy.

He's not attempting to justify it. He's very nicely calling you an idiot for bringing it up, since it's not actually about COVID/vaccines, and is instead about parental consent and harm.

Literally nothing in that post suggested he thought it was ok.
 
There’s no way you’re a parent. That’s egregious, to subject a child to any type of medical procedure without consent of parent is crazy unless it’s life saving. That is terrible and who cares about the money, the fact you’re attempting to justify that is crazy.
you brought up a lawsuit. I discussed a lawsuit. The suit will be against the school, which is a state agency. There are no punitive damages for egregious conduct against a state agency. No money in it, so what is the point of the civil suit. I would bet that the lawyer is an anti vaxxer nut and just wants to make a point, but if i was defense counsel for the school, iwouldnt offer much money to settle the case. I dont necessarily agree nor disagree with your opinion but the the original point of OP's post is how egregious it was of the parents not to consent to acquire a measles vaccination for their child, a lack of consent whic hled to death of the child. That is a true example of egregious conduct. And yes i am a parent, and yes, i had my children vaccinated for measles. Would you? Did you?
 
you brought up a lawsuit. I discussed a lawsuit. The suit will be against the school, which is a state agency. There are no punitive damages for egregious conduct against a state agency. No money in it, so what is the point of the civil suit. I would bet that the lawyer is an anti vaxxer nut and just wants to make a point, but if i was defense counsel for the school, iwouldnt offer much money to settle the case. I dont necessarily agree nor disagree with your opinion but the the original point of OP's post is how egregious it was of the parents not to consent to acquire a measles vaccination for their child, a lack of consent whic hled to death of the child. That is a true example of egregious conduct. And yes i am a parent, and yes, i had my children vaccinated for measles. Would you? Did you?
I was simply trying to gauge if you agreed that was overstepping by an authority. That’s too far. I don’t care about the lawsuit. As a human and American that disgusts me, someone thinking they should subject a child to anything without consent is wrong.

I am indeed a father. My children were born in the early 2000’s, vaccinated, minor issues with one series. My son had a febrile seizure but I would not be being honest if I said I knew unequivocally that a vaccine caused it. That would be inaccurate. However the thing I think about now is the fact that my children are hopefully going to be having children of their own in the next decade. And I want to steer them and guide them to do the right thing. If I’m being honest, I would tell them to not to do the full vaccine schedule now. It’s just too much and there’s not enough evidence to not rule out the increase in vaccines causing some of the developmental issues we are seeing rise. There is 100% a place for vaccines, I believe that a lot of them are some of the most life altering, in a positive way, inventions in the history of the world truly. But there’s just no denying something is going on that is above my understanding. But I do understand correlation and causation, so I guess my answer is it’s nuanced. If I had children today I would want them vaccinated against some things and would waive others. Again, in full transparency, I have no idea what all they are giving now because I have no skin in the game. But I know they’ve increased drastically the amount and frequency over the last couple decades.
 
I was simply trying to gauge if you agreed that was overstepping by an authority. That’s too far. I don’t care about the lawsuit. As a human and American that disgusts me, someone thinking they should subject a child to anything without consent is wrong.

I am indeed a father. My children were born in the early 2000’s, vaccinated, minor issues with one series. My son had a febrile seizure but I would not be being honest if I said I knew unequivocally that a vaccine caused it. That would be inaccurate. However the thing I think about now is the fact that my children are hopefully going to be having children of their own in the next decade. And I want to steer them and guide them to do the right thing. If I’m being honest, I would tell them to not to do the full vaccine schedule now. It’s just too much and there’s not enough evidence to not rule out the increase in vaccines causing some of the developmental issues we are seeing rise. There is 100% a place for vaccines, I believe that a lot of them are some of the most life altering, in a positive way, inventions in the history of the world truly. But there’s just no denying something is going on that is above my understanding. But I do understand correlation and causation, so I guess my answer is it’s nuanced. If I had children today I would want them vaccinated against some things and would waive others. Again, in full transparency, I have no idea what all they are giving now because I have no skin in the game. But I know they’ve increased drastically the amount and frequency over the last couple decades.

Is this guy a doctor or medical researcher? Posting a series of numbers and then trying to extract causality or correlation from the numbers, which many MAGA faithful are prone to do, just makes you look uneducated.

Please don’t look uneducated.
 
More of a parental consent issue than a covid issue. Doesnt mean they will win the case or that the case has been decided. The parents just survived a preliminary motion to dismiss, i bet. The key though is nominal and Minimal damages i bet. No one going to get much money out of that. What happened? did the kid have a rough day as a reaction? no real damages there. or did his pecker fall off as a result of the vaccination? now that might would be a case, although still a longshot, since vaccine comanies and providers enjoy a wide scope of immunity and limited liability payments by federal statute. Otherwise, i dont see any real relevance.

Yeah…this thread only cares if the child died or developed autism…
 
Is this guy a doctor or medical researcher? Posting a series of numbers and then trying to extract causality or correlation from the numbers, which many MAGA faithful are prone to do, just makes you look uneducated.

Please don’t look uneducated.
Did you not take 2 minutes and read my post. All I said is it’s worth looking at and that there’s been an increase in the amount of vaccines and developmental issues, do you deny that? Sorry that’s radical right.
 
you brought up a lawsuit. I discussed a lawsuit. The suit will be against the school, which is a state agency. There are no punitive damages for egregious conduct against a state agency. No money in it, so what is the point of the civil suit. I would bet that the lawyer is an anti vaxxer nut and just wants to make a point, but if i was defense counsel for the school, iwouldnt offer much money to settle the case. I dont necessarily agree nor disagree with your opinion but the the original point of OP's post is how egregious it was of the parents not to consent to acquire a measles vaccination for their child, a lack of consent whic hled to death of the child. That is a true example of egregious conduct. And yes i am a parent, and yes, i had my children vaccinated for measles. Would you? Did you?
Like you vaxxers love to say correlation doesnt equal causation. Lets be consistent now.
 
Fauci: "When people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected."

Also Fauci: "I got infected about two weeks ago. It was my third infection, and I had been vaccinated and boosted a total of six times." 🤡
 
You fell for that? Hahahahahahhahahaha you’re an idiot
It's ok John boy, we've all known you're gay for years and have never judged you for being married to a dude. Lol

We've made fun of you for having the most idiotic takes on everything from sports to life and politics, that's what we judge you on not your choice of partners.

I'm sure if he knew you were trying to deny his existence you two would be having problems tonight. LMAO
 
I was simply trying to gauge if you agreed that was overstepping by an authority. That’s too far. I don’t care about the lawsuit. As a human and American that disgusts me, someone thinking they should subject a child to anything without consent is wrong.

I am indeed a father. My children were born in the early 2000’s, vaccinated, minor issues with one series. My son had a febrile seizure but I would not be being honest if I said I knew unequivocally that a vaccine caused it. That would be inaccurate. However the thing I think about now is the fact that my children are hopefully going to be having children of their own in the next decade. And I want to steer them and guide them to do the right thing. If I’m being honest, I would tell them to not to do the full vaccine schedule now. It’s just too much and there’s not enough evidence to not rule out the increase in vaccines causing some of the developmental issues we are seeing rise. There is 100% a place for vaccines, I believe that a lot of them are some of the most life altering, in a positive way, inventions in the history of the world truly. But there’s just no denying something is going on that is above my understanding. But I do understand correlation and causation, so I guess my answer is it’s nuanced. If I had children today I would want them vaccinated against some things and would waive others. Again, in full transparency, I have no idea what all they are giving now because I have no skin in the game. But I know they’ve increased drastically the amount and frequency over the last couple decades.

Like you vaxxers love to say correlation doesnt equal causation. Lets be consistent now.
scratching my head on that one. you are not making much sense. we need to switch monikers.
 
It's ok John boy, we've all known you're gay for years and have never judged you for being married to a dude. Lol

We've made fun of you for having the most idiotic takes on everything from sports to life and politics, that's what we judge you on not your choice of partners.

I'm sure if he knew you were trying to deny his existence you two would be having problems tonight. LMAO
Imagine being a dipshit and calling someone younger and more intelligent than you an idiot because your smooth brain likes Trump. Lolololol. You’re an embarrassment to the species
 
Speaking of COVID and vaccines, this is relevant:

BREAKING: North Carolina Supreme Court has given a family the green light to sue their school district after their son was allegedly vaccinated with a COVID mRNA injection without parental consent.

Tanner Smith, 14, went to a clinic for a COVID-19 test after a football team outbreak, not expecting a vaccine. He told workers he didn’t want the vaccine and lacked parental consent. When they couldn’t reach his mother, a worker allegedly instructed another to administer the vaccine anyway, mother Emily Happel and Smith allege in legal briefs.
This kind of thing should never, ever have happened in the first place. EVER! Where my child goes to school (middle school) the school nurse can't even give them an aspirin without our approval.

IMO, this kind of thing is not a disciplinary offence. It is not an offence where they should be fired.

This is an offence where people should go to jail/prison.

My wife got the clot shot of her own volition. I got mine under duress. I told her in no uncertain terms that my child under the age of 18 would not get it until she reached the age of consent.
 
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This kind of thing should never, ever have happened in the first place. EVER! Where my child goes to school (middle school) the school nurse can't even give them an aspirin without our approval.

IMO, this kind of thing is not a disciplinary offence. It is not an offence where they should be fired.

This is an offence where people should go to jail/prison.

My wife got the clot shot of her own volition. I got mine under duress. I told her in no uncertain terms that my child under the age of 18 would not get it until she reached the age of consent.
There were posters defending this nonsense. Our children’s school is the same. Can’t even give them Tylenol without parental consent or a waiver given to the school nurse. These are children and should be protected at all costs, justifying that behavior is hard to understand.
 
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Did you not take 2 minutes and read my post. All I said is it’s worth looking at and that there’s been an increase in the amount of vaccines and developmental issues, do you deny that? Sorry that’s radical right.

No it isn’t. The study they are about to do…again…for the hundredth time to look at linkage between vaccinations & autism…is a huge waste.

So is looking at these numbers.
 
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There were posters defending this nonsense. Our children’s school is the same. Can’t even give them Tylenol without parental consent or a waiver given to the school nurse. These are children and should be protected at all costs, justifying that behavior is hard to understand.
There were liberal posters defending this nonsense. People that have common sense were not.

"justifying that behavior is hard to understand." There is no understanding with these people, because there is no explanation.

90% of these people have a mental illness.
 
Lololololol little man? I’m 6’6” 225. You’re probably 5’9” and very upset about it. It’s ok buddy, I know that makes you tall in Mexico
6'6" 225 and never fought a battle on your own. Your daddy did it for you.

Your nanny would whip your a$$, but who would clean up the mess?
 
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The doctors said the child died because of the measles…the doctor…

Nothing to prove.

You sure?



🚨BREAKING – Hospital Records in Texas Measles Death Released to CHD

After analyzing the medical records, @PierreKory concludes that this child “did not die of measles.”

“She did not die of measles by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, she died of pneumonia. But it gets worse than that, because she didn't really die of pneumonia. She died of a medical error.”
 
You sure?



🚨BREAKING – Hospital Records in Texas Measles Death Released to CHD

After analyzing the medical records, @PierreKory concludes that this child “did not die of measles.”

“She did not die of measles by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, she died of pneumonia. But it gets worse than that, because she didn't really die of pneumonia. She died of a medical error.”
Is he a certified physician?
 
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You sure?



🚨BREAKING – Hospital Records in Texas Measles Death Released to CHD

After analyzing the medical records, @PierreKory concludes that this child “did not die of measles.”

“She did not die of measles by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, she died of pneumonia. But it gets worse than that, because she didn't really die of pneumonia. She died of a medical error.”

Yes. Measles causes the pneumonia.

X is not a good place to get your information. This is someone trying to spin that it was something else…as usual.
 
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