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So do i get to stop paying my property taxes now? Hows this new Maga coup de tat work?
 
He got my vote
John. I know a lot of people on here give you a hard time, but I genuinely think you’re a good dude. And it’s totally cool that you’re a democrat and voted for Biden and Harris. That is your RIGHT, and I respect that fully.

And yeah, he got your vote. He also got a LOT more than average Democratic nominees.

I understand there’s no “proof” and over 60 judges blah blah blah

Again, I think you’re a smart guy. Give me one good reason how something like this could have happened in this election if 2020 wasn’t fabricated




And don’t just say it was more important to people in 2020, that’s just ridiculous.

You give me one legitimate reason of how that could have happened legally
 
If you are giving someone $$ for federal property taxes, I would definitely stop doing that.
Listen its clear that I don't have as good a brain as Magas. So just spell it out for me how this is all gonna work.
 
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John. I know a lot of people on here give you a hard time, but I genuinely think you’re a good dude. And it’s totally cool that you’re a democrat and voted for Biden and Harris. That is your RIGHT, and I respect that fully.

And yeah, he got your vote. He also got a LOT more than average Democratic nominees.

I understand there’s no “proof” and over 60 judges blah blah blah

Again, I think you’re a smart guy. Give me one good reason how something like this could have happened in this election if 2020 wasn’t fabricated




And don’t just say it was more important to people in 2020, that’s just ridiculous.

You give me one legitimate reason of how that could have happened legally
Because it didn't.
 
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You're gonna sit the f*ck down, and STFU. That's what we were told to do for the last 4 years.

Sucks to be you.
I thought free speech was a right? Are we getting rid of that now?

Please feel free to quote me where I told you, or anyone that they have to stfu for 4 years due to an election. Go ahead.
 
I thought free speech was a right? Are we getting rid of that now?

Please feel free to quote me where I told you, or anyone that they have to stfu for 4 years due to an election. Go ahead.
You're just another person who needs a shoulder to cry on. Come on "firegiver". You can put your head on someone's shoulder.

Your rights have not been violated. They won't be violated. You're just an ignorant ****. That will maintain because you're never gonna change.

I'm sick of bending my knee to you f@cks. You will either lead the way, or you will STFU and get in line. The choice is yours.
 
Listen its clear that I don't have as good a brain as Magas. So just spell it out for me how this is all gonna work.
"Listen its clear that I don't have as good a brain as Magas". Who doesn't know that?

This sh!t is about to get to big for your little brain to comprehend.
 
Listen its clear that I don't have as good a brain as Magas. So just spell it out for me how this is all gonna work.
How would I know that? Spell out how all of kamala's ideas were going to work.
I would say no one knows exactly how it will all work.
I would reiterate, though, that if you are paying someone federal property taxes, I would stop immediately.
 
This is about federal control. Federal taxes doled out to the states with conditions. Federal taxes will decrease and state taxes will increase but the state will have all the control over the curriculum and everything else related. It's that simple.
 
How would I know that? Spell out how all of kamala's ideas were going to work.
I would say no one knows exactly how it will all work.
I would reiterate, though, that if you are paying someone federal property taxes, I would stop immediately.
It's not about Kamala anymore. Life is the present and the future, not the past.
Where are the federal funds for the department of education going to be redirected?
 
John. I know a lot of people on here give you a hard time, but I genuinely think you’re a good dude. And it’s totally cool that you’re a democrat and voted for Biden and Harris. That is your RIGHT, and I respect that fully.

And yeah, he got your vote. He also got a LOT more than average Democratic nominees.

I understand there’s no “proof” and over 60 judges blah blah blah

Again, I think you’re a smart guy. Give me one good reason how something like this could have happened in this election if 2020 wasn’t fabricated




And don’t just say it was more important to people in 2020, that’s just ridiculous.

You give me one legitimate reason of how that could have happened legally
Motivation to vote after living under a Trump presidency for 4 years. It’s really not rocket science. People seem to forget just how incredibly divisive he is.
 
Motivation to vote after living under a Trump presidency for 4 years. It’s really not rocket science. People seem to forget just how incredibly divisive he is.
Okay. I mean I know it’s not rocket science but my dumbass is still trying to figure this out apparently

So why weren’t democrats motivated to vote to make sure Trump didn’t get back in after they got what they wanted for the last 4 years? Aren’t Democrats happy with how the last 4 years went and wouldn’t they want to keep it that way?
 
Okay. I mean I know it’s not rocket science but my dumbass is still trying to figure this out apparently

So why weren’t democrats motivated to vote to make sure Trump didn’t get back in after they got what they wanted for the last 4 years? Aren’t Democrats happy with how the last 4 years went and wouldn’t they want to keep it that way?
I think Kamala was a very uninspiring candidate. Her campaign was poorly run. She wasn’t “on display” as much as she should have. Rather, she wasn’t in the public eye enough. It was like her campaign wanted to keep her quiet and OUT of the public eye. Not a good way to galvanize the vote IMO. Also, Trump is 2-0 against female candidates. That may mean nothing, but I think there’s some substance there that’s quite nuanced. Swing state voters, particularly blue collar voters have turned out in droves for Trump over Hillary, Biden over Trump, and Trump over Kamala. The common denominator is they have voted for men every time. Plus in COVID there was much more access to absentee voting, etc. so it makes sense that the numbers were high. Also, in COVID with everyone home and on social media more throughout the day then it made mass messaging significantly more effective. People are out and about now and not as tuned in to news and politics. Combine that with an uninspiring candidate and you get less turnout. I may be wrong, but I believe that while Trump got the popular vote this year, he still got less overall votes than he did last time. That’s an interesting stat in and of itself, assuming it’s true. I’m not in a position to look it up right this moment
 
I think Kamala was a very uninspiring candidate. Her campaign was poorly run. She wasn’t “on display” as much as she should have. Rather, she wasn’t in the public eye enough. It was like her campaign wanted to keep her quiet and OUT of the public eye. Not a good way to galvanize the vote IMO. Also, Trump is 2-0 against female candidates. That may mean nothing, but I think there’s some substance there that’s quite nuanced. Swing state voters, particularly blue collar voters have turned out in droves for Trump over Hillary, Biden over Trump, and Trump over Kamala. The common denominator is they have voted for men every time. Plus in COVID there was much more access to absentee voting, etc. so it makes sense that the numbers were high. Also, in COVID with everyone home and on social media more throughout the day then it made mass messaging significantly more effective. People are out and about now and not as tuned in to news and politics. Combine that with an uninspiring candidate and you get less turnout. I may be wrong, but I believe that while Trump got the popular vote this year, he still got less overall votes than he did last time. That’s an interesting stat in and of itself, assuming it’s true. I’m not in a position to look it up right this moment
Then why did you and your party elect Kamala as the candidate? You had a choice, right?
 
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I think Kamala was a very uninspiring candidate. Her campaign was poorly run. She wasn’t “on display” as much as she should have. Rather, she wasn’t in the public eye enough. It was like her campaign wanted to keep her quiet and OUT of the public eye. Not a good way to galvanize the vote IMO. Also, Trump is 2-0 against female candidates. That may mean nothing, but I think there’s some substance there that’s quite nuanced. Swing state voters, particularly blue collar voters have turned out in droves for Trump over Hillary, Biden over Trump, and Trump over Kamala. The common denominator is they have voted for men every time. Plus in COVID there was much more access to absentee voting, etc. so it makes sense that the numbers were high. Also, in COVID with everyone home and on social media more throughout the day then it made mass messaging significantly more effective. People are out and about now and not as tuned in to news and politics. Combine that with an uninspiring candidate and you get less turnout. I may be wrong, but I believe that while Trump got the popular vote this year, he still got less overall votes than he did last time. That’s an interesting stat in and of itself, assuming it’s true. I’m not in a position to look it up right this moment
Thank you for the logical and thought out response.

I can certainly see the assumed position of the majority of Americans being more “comfortable” with a man in office, whether it’s right or not.

I also agree with you that the Harris campaign was very poorly run, for the reasons you mentioned. However, there’s also the case to be made that the more Kamala may have been in front of a camera or microphone, it may have caused more harm than good.

I get the argument for 2020 being a unique election with COVID and absentee/mail in votes. However, I am still not understanding how the overwhelming majority of mail in votes (virtually all of them) were for Biden, and this time Harris.

Do democrats not enjoy leaving their house to vote? Do they not like waiting in lines?

White collar and blue collar aside…why are 90% mail in ballots Democrat? Is there an answer to this?

Thank you for the respectful conversation
 
You should be proud of that. Lost your a$$ but you should be proud of that.

You freakin clown! What a dumb SOB you are.
Excuse me sir. I’m trying to have a logical and respectful conversation with someone with differing views

You’ve made your feelings on all this clear. They lost, let’s act like we’ve been here before and stop with the name calling
 
Excuse me sir. I’m trying to have a logical and respectful conversation with someone with differing views

You’ve made your feelings on all this clear. They lost, let’s act like we’ve been here before and stop with the name calling
Good luck with that "logical and respectful" conversation. Lettuce (spelled that way on porpoise) know how that turns out.
 
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Wow. So you doubt my Christianity? Ok.

I am an employee of a Church, thank God they don't feel the same.

Your opinions are opinions, my statements are based on actual facts and insight into the Public Education system in South Carolina where my wife has been an employee at various levels for nearly 20 years, includes ng her current role as the Behavior Specialist for an Upstate District.

I bring up the Litter boxes and Furries situation because you posted that with the same level of confidence that you always use when saying that Education is a failure. You are convinced that Education is failing to justify sending your kids to Private School. Sorry, but most Private Schools don't perform better than Public Schools, those are also facts.

The reality is that your wife failed as a teacher and you blame the system. Those are facts that you have admitted.

Being a teacher is tough, not everybody is well equipped and it isn't easy when you are constantly bashed by ignorant folks who have no idea what you do daily.

No school is perfect, nobody is above scrutiny and shouldn't be help to standards. You continue to state, with absolute certainty that Public Schools are failing and I'm going to always call you out for it.

Well this is an interesting post by you. Where to begin....

First, your faith is between you and God. We all fall short of the glory of God. I suspect based on your views, you're probably one of those folks who adapts God to what suits you rather than understanding His Word is The Word whether we like it or not. That's something that's abundantly obvious through your postings.

Secondly, we all have opinions on this matter (education). Mine are based on experience, statistical factors and what we see in the world through our interaction with others. Yours are based on one person who you love and desperately need to support.

We chose to send our kids to private school when my wife was teaching public school. We wanted a faith based education. It had nothing to do with my desperate needs. You sure do seem to know an awful lot about someone you've never met.

My wife taught in Title 1 schools for 12 years. She didn't fail as a teacher but she did burn out seeing the stuff she had to see year after year. It was gutting her and we chose to move on. I don't blame the system at all. Teaching kids who come from such difficult backgrounds is brutal and those things are not the fault of the schools.

Being a teacher is a very hard job. I know because I do it too. Again, you talk out of your ass about so much and then say you have all the facts and know what you're talking about. It's unsurprising from you because you just lack intellectual honesty and courage at every turn. You're always going to flow with the water because it's easier that way. It won't matter to you how many folks are getting washed out and drowning along the way.

The last sentence is the best. You're going to call me out huh? As though you hold the keys to what's right and wrong. By any metric schools are failing and our education system is completely broken. I can spend all day citing statistics that demonstrate this. I am not here to blame teachers. They are quite frequently innocent in all that's gone wrong. We're not giving them what they need to succeed. You will look past so much in an effort preserve your comfort zone. That is despicable.

Education is there to prepare kids for life. That's not happening and there are stats everywhere to demonstrate this. Public education has failed. Colleges have failed. It's not all their fault and perhaps not even mostly their fault. But they are failing and we need major reform to meet the needs of our young people now and into the future.

But you feel free to keep your head in the sand to preserve your fake reality. We'll move on without you. Your post history reveals you end up on the incorrect side of most things.

Back before the pandemic, this is what was being said:


Hint: It hasn't gotten better since.
 
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It's not about Kamala anymore. Life is the present and the future, not the past.
Where are the federal funds for the department of education going to be redirected?

The debt has become a problem for all of us. We have to address it. That's not a partisan issue as it impacts us all. Can we all agree we need to do everything we can to start getting that under control? It isn't one party that's done this. It's all of us and we need to come together to fix it.
 
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The debt has become a problem for all of us. We have to address it. That's not a partisan issue as it impacts us all. Can we all agree we need to do everything we can to start getting that under control? It isn't one party that's done this. It's all of us and we need to come together to fix it.
The only way anything gets done on the debt is if we somehow tie it to coporate subsidies. Since corporations are now defacto immortal citizens in this country who are allowed to lobby our congress for funds.

They are the ones writing the bills, so unless its important to corporations, it will never be important to congress. They will slash our taxes and misappropriate our budgets to line their pockets. All the while the debt will get bigger. It got bigger under first term MAGA.
 
Carter was a good man. Probably had great intentions, but one of the worst presidents in history.
In hindsight, most economist and historians say he wasn't. It's just perception started at that time because he wasn't the most inspiring president and the Reagon wave.
 
So what is the plan to replace the massive amount of federal funds that make up the vast majority of Education costs for every state?

Stupid Idea that like many of his "plans" have no actual plan. South Carolina can't fund their education without the federal funds. Get ready for massive State Tax increases.
Money has never been the issue. Its been management. The places where the most money is spent has the worst results. Gov waste is about to drop in a big way...
 
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John. I know a lot of people on here give you a hard time, but I genuinely think you’re a good dude. And it’s totally cool that you’re a democrat and voted for Biden and Harris. That is your RIGHT, and I respect that fully.

And yeah, he got your vote. He also got a LOT more than average Democratic nominees.

I understand there’s no “proof” and over 60 judges blah blah blah

Again, I think you’re a smart guy. Give me one good reason how something like this could have happened in this election if 2020 wasn’t fabricated




And don’t just say it was more important to people in 2020, that’s just ridiculous.

You give me one legitimate reason of how that could have happened legally
Not sure if this is addressed later in the thread, but those numbers shown for 2024's election do not include all of the results.
As of right now for the popular vote, Harris got 72.39M and Trump got 75.55M. (In total, approximately 150.4M including other candidates)
In 2020, Biden had 81.27M to Trumps 74.22M. (In total including other candidates, approximately 157.9M)

While there's still votes being counted, let's assume thoes numbers stay. That's a difference of roughly 7.5M popular votes between 2020 and 2024. The US population as of 2023 was 334.9M with one "federal register" siteestimating 262M are of voting age.
7.5M would represent 2.86% of the available voting population to decide that they did not want to vote in 2024 after voting in 2020.

I personally don't see that as crazy. 3 out of every 100 people who voted in 2020 basically saying "f this, both suck and I don't care any more". It's not that huge of a number difference since your tweet doesn't have all of the popular votes for this election tabulated in it.
There were a lot of voters that didn't like Kamala, didn't want to vote for a person of color, didn't want to vote for a woman, or didn't feel like she even "talked" to her Democratic base. There's plenty of legit reasons why the number would fall from 81.27M to Biden down to what's currently 72.39M for Harris.
 
In hindsight, most economist and historians say he wasn't. It's just perception started at that time because he wasn't the most inspiring president and the Reagon wave.
He was the worst in my lifetime with easy until Joe the clown. Carter can pass knowing he wont be considered the worst anymore...
 
The only way anything gets done on the debt is if we somehow tie it to coporate subsidies. Since corporations are now defacto immortal citizens in this country who are allowed to lobby our congress for funds.

They are the ones writing the bills, so unless its important to corporations, it will never be important to congress. They will slash our taxes and misappropriate our budgets to line their pockets. All the while the debt will get bigger. It got bigger under first term MAGA.

What would be best is the abolition of all corporate taxes. Those taxes are actually double taxes on the population of our country and it's really ridiculous. We should get rid of all of that and start from there.

You're right about the debt in the first Trump term. It's one of many reasons why I did not support his nomination this time.

At this point though, the debt situation has become so perilous that it's going to impact all of us. It's in everyone's best interest to see our debt get under control. It's something that will sinl us all if we don't do something about it.
 
Thank you for the logical and thought out response.

I can certainly see the assumed position of the majority of Americans being more “comfortable” with a man in office, whether it’s right or not.

I also agree with you that the Harris campaign was very poorly run, for the reasons you mentioned. However, there’s also the case to be made that the more Kamala may have been in front of a camera or microphone, it may have caused more harm than good.

I get the argument for 2020 being a unique election with COVID and absentee/mail in votes. However, I am still not understanding how the overwhelming majority of mail in votes (virtually all of them) were for Biden, and this time Harris.

Do democrats not enjoy leaving their house to vote? Do they not like waiting in lines?

White collar and blue collar aside…why are 90% mail in ballots Democrat? Is there an answer to this?

Thank you for the respectful conversation
I agree with Kamala being hidden by design. She’s not very likable, her voice is annoying, etc. these are all things that are objectively irrelevant when it comes to qualification for presidency. However, they are highly important when it comes to electability. She is quite deficient in electability.

I’m not sure why so many mail in ballots were for Biden over Trump. I think generally early voters and mail in ballots lean towards democrats. It’s tough to make a generalization without being racist or casting stereotypes. Speaking from personal experience I can provide some context. I work in an all black medical practice. I am one of 2 white people on payroll. Every single one of my coworkers voted for Harris, obviously. They also all either early voted or did absentee. There was a lot of discussion amongst my immediate black community of “if I vote early then it’s much less likely my vote will get thrown out”. There was a lot of fear (justified or not is up for debate of course) that there would be stress and harassment if they voted on Election Day (see bomb threats at various voting sites in Atlanta on Election Day, particularly at black churches).

Actually, I have 2 additional thoughts (sorry for poor formatting I’m typing while on the shitter at work)

1. Mail in ballots overwhelmingly Biden as during Covid the areas with most Covid restrictions and highest “restriction compliance” were predominantly blue. A person voting Democrat was much more likely to vote absentee over fear of large crowds at Election Day polling centers.
2. Regarding Kamala’s campaign being poorly run due to her general unpopularity. I think a big part of this was that she didn’t go through the primary process. As such, there was no opportunity to see what it was that voters liked and didn’t like about her to then structure and strategize the campaign accordingly. The result, a poorly run, generic campaign.
 
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I agree with Kamala being hidden by design. She’s not very likable, her voice is annoying, etc. these are all things that are objectively irrelevant when it comes to qualification for presidency. However, they are highly important when it comes to electability. She is quite deficient in electability.

I’m not sure why so many mail in ballots were for Biden over Trump. I think generally early voters and mail in ballots lean towards democrats. It’s tough to make a generalization without being racist or casting stereotypes. Speaking from personal experience I can provide some context. I work in an all black medical practice. I am one of 2 white people on payroll. Every single one of my coworkers voted for Harris, obviously. They also all either early voted or did absentee. There was a lot of discussion amongst my immediate black community of “if I vote early then it’s much less likely my vote will get thrown out”. There was a lot of fear (justified or not is up for debate of course) that there would be stress and harassment if they voted on Election Day (see bomb threats at various voting sites in Atlanta on Election Day, particularly at black churches).

Actually, I have 2 additional thoughts (sorry for poor formatting I’m typing while on the shitter at work)

1. Mail in ballots overwhelmingly Biden as during Covid the areas with most Covid restrictions and highest “restriction compliance” were predominantly blue. A person voting Democrat was much more likely to vote absentee over fear of large crowds at Election Day polling centers.
2. Regarding Kamala’s campaign being poorly run due to her general unpopularity. I think a big part of this was that she didn’t go through the primary process. As such, there was no opportunity to see what it was that voters liked and didn’t like about her to then structure and strategize the campaign accordingly. The result, a poorly run, generic campaign.
Yeah honestly I feel bad for Kamala. Thrown in a couple months prior to election, forced to run on change even though she would be “changing” what she helped create in the first place, and now has been picked apart for the whole world to see. I’m actually pretty interested to see where she lands

I think one thing that we hopefully can agree on is this: IF either party were trying to illegally gain an advantage in votes, mail in ballots were the safest way to do it with it being impossible to get caught. The 60 court cases has proved that

IF the Democrats utilized mail in ballots to illegally win the 2020 election, they did it in a way that is literally untraceable

The game theorist in me says kudos for finding a way to win at all costs

***Ironically, and this is just my opinion: but I think Trump losing in 2020 is going to end up being the best thing to happen to him and the Republican Party. If he would have won, it would have been another 4 years of the left battering him every step of the way. For the last 4 years, Democrats had their chance and failed to show proper leadership. An overwhelming majority of people wanted change. And meanwhile, the last 4 years, Trump has built an army of political assassins that he is going to unleash in January that are going to change the scope of our nation forever
 
Yeah honestly I feel bad for Kamala. Thrown in a couple months prior to election, forced to run on change even though she would be “changing” what she helped create in the first place, and now has been picked apart for the whole world to see. I’m actually pretty interested to see where she lands

I think one thing that we hopefully can agree on is this: IF either party were trying to illegally gain an advantage in votes, mail in ballots were the safest way to do it with it being impossible to get caught. The 60 court cases has proved that

IF the Democrats utilized mail in ballots to illegally win the 2020 election, they did it in a way that is literally untraceable

The game theorist in me says kudos for finding a way to win at all costs

***Ironically, and this is just my opinion: but I think Trump losing in 2020 is going to end up being the best thing to happen to him and the Republican Party. If he would have won, it would have been another 4 years of the left battering him every step of the way. For the last 4 years, Democrats had their chance and failed to show proper leadership. An overwhelming majority of people wanted change. And meanwhile, the last 4 years, Trump has built an army of political assassins that he is going to unleash in January that are going to change the scope of our nation forever
Yeah, any duplicate ballots would've still been caught, so they would have to find a way to know who was going to skip the polls to then use a mail in ballot for that person.
 
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***Ironically, and this is just my opinion: but I think Trump losing in 2020 is going to end up being the best thing to happen to him and the Republican Party. If he would have won, it would have been another 4 years of the left battering him every step of the way. For the last 4 years, Democrats had their chance and failed to show proper leadership. An overwhelming majority of people wanted change. And meanwhile, the last 4 years, Trump has built an army of political assassins that he is going to unleash in January that are going to change the scope of our nation forever
Absolutely. I actually think the Trans-wacky stuff had more of a impact than some realize. Most americans and that importantly includes minorities are not down with dudes sharing bathrooms and playing sports with their girls and other craziness like transitioning minors. That shit was like nails on a chalkboard and I think was the forcing funtion that got many to question a bunch of stuff that maybe they didn't question before and seriously consider trump as the antidote.
 
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Yeah honestly I feel bad for Kamala. Thrown in a couple months prior to election, forced to run on change even though she would be “changing” what she helped create in the first place, and now has been picked apart for the whole world to see. I’m actually pretty interested to see where she lands

I think one thing that we hopefully can agree on is this: IF either party were trying to illegally gain an advantage in votes, mail in ballots were the safest way to do it with it being impossible to get caught. The 60 court cases has proved that

IF the Democrats utilized mail in ballots to illegally win the 2020 election, they did it in a way that is literally untraceable

The game theorist in me says kudos for finding a way to win at all costs

***Ironically, and this is just my opinion: but I think Trump losing in 2020 is going to end up being the best thing to happen to him and the Republican Party. If he would have won, it would have been another 4 years of the left battering him every step of the way. For the last 4 years, Democrats had their chance and failed to show proper leadership. An overwhelming majority of people wanted change. And meanwhile, the last 4 years, Trump has built an army of political assassins that he is going to unleash in January that are going to change the scope of our nation forever
I agree on all fronts. I suspect we probably disagree on whether the future Trump presidency will change the scope of the nation in a positive or negative way. But at this moment it’s all just conjecture anyway. Who knows, maybe Kamala will really spice things up and refuse to certify the election results and instill herself as president. That would be something Lolol
 
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I agree on all fronts. I suspect we probably disagree on whether the future Trump presidency will change the scope of the nation in a positive or negative way. But at this moment it’s all just conjecture anyway. Who knows, maybe Kamala will really spice things up and refuse to certify the election results and instill herself as president. That would be something Lolol
Or maybe Biden will resign, haha. You just never know do you

And yes it’s conjecture. I am of the general opinion that he will do a lot of good and maybe some bad. And you have every right to feel the opposite and we can revisit in a couple years and see how he’s doing!
 
Or maybe Biden will resign, haha. You just never know do you

And yes it’s conjecture. I am of the general opinion that he will do a lot of good and maybe some bad. And you have every right to feel the opposite and we can revisit in a couple years and see how he’s doing!
That would be wild if Biden stepped down

I sure hope Trump does lots of good. I would love to eat a big bucket of crow in 2-4 years. All we can do is get up every day, do our best, and treat others with respect
 
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