He got my voteNobody voted for Biden last year.
Biden never got 81 million votes. Biden may have gotten 81 million ballots, but he didn't get 81 million votes.
He got my voteNobody voted for Biden last year.
Biden never got 81 million votes. Biden may have gotten 81 million ballots, but he didn't get 81 million votes.
You should be proud of that. Lost your a$$ but you should be proud of that.He got my vote
If you are giving someone $$ for federal property taxes, I would definitely stop doing that.So do i get to stop paying my property taxes now? Hows this new Maga coup de tat work?
John. I know a lot of people on here give you a hard time, but I genuinely think you’re a good dude. And it’s totally cool that you’re a democrat and voted for Biden and Harris. That is your RIGHT, and I respect that fully.He got my vote
Listen its clear that I don't have as good a brain as Magas. So just spell it out for me how this is all gonna work.If you are giving someone $$ for federal property taxes, I would definitely stop doing that.
Because it didn't.John. I know a lot of people on here give you a hard time, but I genuinely think you’re a good dude. And it’s totally cool that you’re a democrat and voted for Biden and Harris. That is your RIGHT, and I respect that fully.
And yeah, he got your vote. He also got a LOT more than average Democratic nominees.
I understand there’s no “proof” and over 60 judges blah blah blah
Again, I think you’re a smart guy. Give me one good reason how something like this could have happened in this election if 2020 wasn’t fabricated
And don’t just say it was more important to people in 2020, that’s just ridiculous.
You give me one legitimate reason of how that could have happened legally
You're gonna sit the f*ck down, and STFU. That's what we were told to do for the last 4 years.Listen its clear that I don't have as good a brain as Magas. So just spell it out for me how this is all gonna work.
I thought free speech was a right? Are we getting rid of that now?You're gonna sit the f*ck down, and STFU. That's what we were told to do for the last 4 years.
Sucks to be you.
You're just another person who needs a shoulder to cry on. Come on "firegiver". You can put your head on someone's shoulder.I thought free speech was a right? Are we getting rid of that now?
Please feel free to quote me where I told you, or anyone that they have to stfu for 4 years due to an election. Go ahead.
"Listen its clear that I don't have as good a brain as Magas". Who doesn't know that?Listen its clear that I don't have as good a brain as Magas. So just spell it out for me how this is all gonna work.
How would I know that? Spell out how all of kamala's ideas were going to work.Listen its clear that I don't have as good a brain as Magas. So just spell it out for me how this is all gonna work.
It's not about Kamala anymore. Life is the present and the future, not the past.How would I know that? Spell out how all of kamala's ideas were going to work.
I would say no one knows exactly how it will all work.
I would reiterate, though, that if you are paying someone federal property taxes, I would stop immediately.
Motivation to vote after living under a Trump presidency for 4 years. It’s really not rocket science. People seem to forget just how incredibly divisive he is.John. I know a lot of people on here give you a hard time, but I genuinely think you’re a good dude. And it’s totally cool that you’re a democrat and voted for Biden and Harris. That is your RIGHT, and I respect that fully.
And yeah, he got your vote. He also got a LOT more than average Democratic nominees.
I understand there’s no “proof” and over 60 judges blah blah blah
Again, I think you’re a smart guy. Give me one good reason how something like this could have happened in this election if 2020 wasn’t fabricated
And don’t just say it was more important to people in 2020, that’s just ridiculous.
You give me one legitimate reason of how that could have happened legally
Okay. I mean I know it’s not rocket science but my dumbass is still trying to figure this out apparentlyMotivation to vote after living under a Trump presidency for 4 years. It’s really not rocket science. People seem to forget just how incredibly divisive he is.
I think Kamala was a very uninspiring candidate. Her campaign was poorly run. She wasn’t “on display” as much as she should have. Rather, she wasn’t in the public eye enough. It was like her campaign wanted to keep her quiet and OUT of the public eye. Not a good way to galvanize the vote IMO. Also, Trump is 2-0 against female candidates. That may mean nothing, but I think there’s some substance there that’s quite nuanced. Swing state voters, particularly blue collar voters have turned out in droves for Trump over Hillary, Biden over Trump, and Trump over Kamala. The common denominator is they have voted for men every time. Plus in COVID there was much more access to absentee voting, etc. so it makes sense that the numbers were high. Also, in COVID with everyone home and on social media more throughout the day then it made mass messaging significantly more effective. People are out and about now and not as tuned in to news and politics. Combine that with an uninspiring candidate and you get less turnout. I may be wrong, but I believe that while Trump got the popular vote this year, he still got less overall votes than he did last time. That’s an interesting stat in and of itself, assuming it’s true. I’m not in a position to look it up right this momentOkay. I mean I know it’s not rocket science but my dumbass is still trying to figure this out apparently
So why weren’t democrats motivated to vote to make sure Trump didn’t get back in after they got what they wanted for the last 4 years? Aren’t Democrats happy with how the last 4 years went and wouldn’t they want to keep it that way?
Then why did you and your party elect Kamala as the candidate? You had a choice, right?I think Kamala was a very uninspiring candidate. Her campaign was poorly run. She wasn’t “on display” as much as she should have. Rather, she wasn’t in the public eye enough. It was like her campaign wanted to keep her quiet and OUT of the public eye. Not a good way to galvanize the vote IMO. Also, Trump is 2-0 against female candidates. That may mean nothing, but I think there’s some substance there that’s quite nuanced. Swing state voters, particularly blue collar voters have turned out in droves for Trump over Hillary, Biden over Trump, and Trump over Kamala. The common denominator is they have voted for men every time. Plus in COVID there was much more access to absentee voting, etc. so it makes sense that the numbers were high. Also, in COVID with everyone home and on social media more throughout the day then it made mass messaging significantly more effective. People are out and about now and not as tuned in to news and politics. Combine that with an uninspiring candidate and you get less turnout. I may be wrong, but I believe that while Trump got the popular vote this year, he still got less overall votes than he did last time. That’s an interesting stat in and of itself, assuming it’s true. I’m not in a position to look it up right this moment
Thank you for the logical and thought out response.I think Kamala was a very uninspiring candidate. Her campaign was poorly run. She wasn’t “on display” as much as she should have. Rather, she wasn’t in the public eye enough. It was like her campaign wanted to keep her quiet and OUT of the public eye. Not a good way to galvanize the vote IMO. Also, Trump is 2-0 against female candidates. That may mean nothing, but I think there’s some substance there that’s quite nuanced. Swing state voters, particularly blue collar voters have turned out in droves for Trump over Hillary, Biden over Trump, and Trump over Kamala. The common denominator is they have voted for men every time. Plus in COVID there was much more access to absentee voting, etc. so it makes sense that the numbers were high. Also, in COVID with everyone home and on social media more throughout the day then it made mass messaging significantly more effective. People are out and about now and not as tuned in to news and politics. Combine that with an uninspiring candidate and you get less turnout. I may be wrong, but I believe that while Trump got the popular vote this year, he still got less overall votes than he did last time. That’s an interesting stat in and of itself, assuming it’s true. I’m not in a position to look it up right this moment
Excuse me sir. I’m trying to have a logical and respectful conversation with someone with differing viewsYou should be proud of that. Lost your a$$ but you should be proud of that.
You freakin clown! What a dumb SOB you are.
Good luck with that "logical and respectful" conversation. Lettuce (spelled that way on porpoise) know how that turns out.Excuse me sir. I’m trying to have a logical and respectful conversation with someone with differing views
You’ve made your feelings on all this clear. They lost, let’s act like we’ve been here before and stop with the name calling
Wow. So you doubt my Christianity? Ok.
I am an employee of a Church, thank God they don't feel the same.
Your opinions are opinions, my statements are based on actual facts and insight into the Public Education system in South Carolina where my wife has been an employee at various levels for nearly 20 years, includes ng her current role as the Behavior Specialist for an Upstate District.
I bring up the Litter boxes and Furries situation because you posted that with the same level of confidence that you always use when saying that Education is a failure. You are convinced that Education is failing to justify sending your kids to Private School. Sorry, but most Private Schools don't perform better than Public Schools, those are also facts.
The reality is that your wife failed as a teacher and you blame the system. Those are facts that you have admitted.
Being a teacher is tough, not everybody is well equipped and it isn't easy when you are constantly bashed by ignorant folks who have no idea what you do daily.
No school is perfect, nobody is above scrutiny and shouldn't be help to standards. You continue to state, with absolute certainty that Public Schools are failing and I'm going to always call you out for it.
It's not about Kamala anymore. Life is the present and the future, not the past.
Where are the federal funds for the department of education going to be redirected?
Selected, not elected.Then why did you and your party elect Kamala as the candidate? You had a choice, right?
The only way anything gets done on the debt is if we somehow tie it to coporate subsidies. Since corporations are now defacto immortal citizens in this country who are allowed to lobby our congress for funds.The debt has become a problem for all of us. We have to address it. That's not a partisan issue as it impacts us all. Can we all agree we need to do everything we can to start getting that under control? It isn't one party that's done this. It's all of us and we need to come together to fix it.
In hindsight, most economist and historians say he wasn't. It's just perception started at that time because he wasn't the most inspiring president and the Reagon wave.Carter was a good man. Probably had great intentions, but one of the worst presidents in history.
It's sad for everyone when children and mental midgets are in charge.You're gonna sit the f*ck down, and STFU. That's what we were told to do for the last 4 years.
Sucks to be you.
Money has never been the issue. Its been management. The places where the most money is spent has the worst results. Gov waste is about to drop in a big way...So what is the plan to replace the massive amount of federal funds that make up the vast majority of Education costs for every state?
Stupid Idea that like many of his "plans" have no actual plan. South Carolina can't fund their education without the federal funds. Get ready for massive State Tax increases.
Not sure if this is addressed later in the thread, but those numbers shown for 2024's election do not include all of the results.John. I know a lot of people on here give you a hard time, but I genuinely think you’re a good dude. And it’s totally cool that you’re a democrat and voted for Biden and Harris. That is your RIGHT, and I respect that fully.
And yeah, he got your vote. He also got a LOT more than average Democratic nominees.
I understand there’s no “proof” and over 60 judges blah blah blah
Again, I think you’re a smart guy. Give me one good reason how something like this could have happened in this election if 2020 wasn’t fabricated
And don’t just say it was more important to people in 2020, that’s just ridiculous.
You give me one legitimate reason of how that could have happened legally
He was the worst in my lifetime with easy until Joe the clown. Carter can pass knowing he wont be considered the worst anymore...In hindsight, most economist and historians say he wasn't. It's just perception started at that time because he wasn't the most inspiring president and the Reagon wave.
The only way anything gets done on the debt is if we somehow tie it to coporate subsidies. Since corporations are now defacto immortal citizens in this country who are allowed to lobby our congress for funds.
They are the ones writing the bills, so unless its important to corporations, it will never be important to congress. They will slash our taxes and misappropriate our budgets to line their pockets. All the while the debt will get bigger. It got bigger under first term MAGA.
I agree with Kamala being hidden by design. She’s not very likable, her voice is annoying, etc. these are all things that are objectively irrelevant when it comes to qualification for presidency. However, they are highly important when it comes to electability. She is quite deficient in electability.Thank you for the logical and thought out response.
I can certainly see the assumed position of the majority of Americans being more “comfortable” with a man in office, whether it’s right or not.
I also agree with you that the Harris campaign was very poorly run, for the reasons you mentioned. However, there’s also the case to be made that the more Kamala may have been in front of a camera or microphone, it may have caused more harm than good.
I get the argument for 2020 being a unique election with COVID and absentee/mail in votes. However, I am still not understanding how the overwhelming majority of mail in votes (virtually all of them) were for Biden, and this time Harris.
Do democrats not enjoy leaving their house to vote? Do they not like waiting in lines?
White collar and blue collar aside…why are 90% mail in ballots Democrat? Is there an answer to this?
Thank you for the respectful conversation
That's what we were dealing with for the last 4 years. No longer though.It's sad for everyone when children and mental midgets are in charge.
Yeah honestly I feel bad for Kamala. Thrown in a couple months prior to election, forced to run on change even though she would be “changing” what she helped create in the first place, and now has been picked apart for the whole world to see. I’m actually pretty interested to see where she landsI agree with Kamala being hidden by design. She’s not very likable, her voice is annoying, etc. these are all things that are objectively irrelevant when it comes to qualification for presidency. However, they are highly important when it comes to electability. She is quite deficient in electability.
I’m not sure why so many mail in ballots were for Biden over Trump. I think generally early voters and mail in ballots lean towards democrats. It’s tough to make a generalization without being racist or casting stereotypes. Speaking from personal experience I can provide some context. I work in an all black medical practice. I am one of 2 white people on payroll. Every single one of my coworkers voted for Harris, obviously. They also all either early voted or did absentee. There was a lot of discussion amongst my immediate black community of “if I vote early then it’s much less likely my vote will get thrown out”. There was a lot of fear (justified or not is up for debate of course) that there would be stress and harassment if they voted on Election Day (see bomb threats at various voting sites in Atlanta on Election Day, particularly at black churches).
Actually, I have 2 additional thoughts (sorry for poor formatting I’m typing while on the shitter at work)
1. Mail in ballots overwhelmingly Biden as during Covid the areas with most Covid restrictions and highest “restriction compliance” were predominantly blue. A person voting Democrat was much more likely to vote absentee over fear of large crowds at Election Day polling centers.
2. Regarding Kamala’s campaign being poorly run due to her general unpopularity. I think a big part of this was that she didn’t go through the primary process. As such, there was no opportunity to see what it was that voters liked and didn’t like about her to then structure and strategize the campaign accordingly. The result, a poorly run, generic campaign.
Yeah, any duplicate ballots would've still been caught, so they would have to find a way to know who was going to skip the polls to then use a mail in ballot for that person.Yeah honestly I feel bad for Kamala. Thrown in a couple months prior to election, forced to run on change even though she would be “changing” what she helped create in the first place, and now has been picked apart for the whole world to see. I’m actually pretty interested to see where she lands
I think one thing that we hopefully can agree on is this: IF either party were trying to illegally gain an advantage in votes, mail in ballots were the safest way to do it with it being impossible to get caught. The 60 court cases has proved that
IF the Democrats utilized mail in ballots to illegally win the 2020 election, they did it in a way that is literally untraceable
The game theorist in me says kudos for finding a way to win at all costs
***Ironically, and this is just my opinion: but I think Trump losing in 2020 is going to end up being the best thing to happen to him and the Republican Party. If he would have won, it would have been another 4 years of the left battering him every step of the way. For the last 4 years, Democrats had their chance and failed to show proper leadership. An overwhelming majority of people wanted change. And meanwhile, the last 4 years, Trump has built an army of political assassins that he is going to unleash in January that are going to change the scope of our nation forever
Absolutely. I actually think the Trans-wacky stuff had more of a impact than some realize. Most americans and that importantly includes minorities are not down with dudes sharing bathrooms and playing sports with their girls and other craziness like transitioning minors. That shit was like nails on a chalkboard and I think was the forcing funtion that got many to question a bunch of stuff that maybe they didn't question before and seriously consider trump as the antidote...
***Ironically, and this is just my opinion: but I think Trump losing in 2020 is going to end up being the best thing to happen to him and the Republican Party. If he would have won, it would have been another 4 years of the left battering him every step of the way. For the last 4 years, Democrats had their chance and failed to show proper leadership. An overwhelming majority of people wanted change. And meanwhile, the last 4 years, Trump has built an army of political assassins that he is going to unleash in January that are going to change the scope of our nation forever
I agree on all fronts. I suspect we probably disagree on whether the future Trump presidency will change the scope of the nation in a positive or negative way. But at this moment it’s all just conjecture anyway. Who knows, maybe Kamala will really spice things up and refuse to certify the election results and instill herself as president. That would be something LololYeah honestly I feel bad for Kamala. Thrown in a couple months prior to election, forced to run on change even though she would be “changing” what she helped create in the first place, and now has been picked apart for the whole world to see. I’m actually pretty interested to see where she lands
I think one thing that we hopefully can agree on is this: IF either party were trying to illegally gain an advantage in votes, mail in ballots were the safest way to do it with it being impossible to get caught. The 60 court cases has proved that
IF the Democrats utilized mail in ballots to illegally win the 2020 election, they did it in a way that is literally untraceable
The game theorist in me says kudos for finding a way to win at all costs
***Ironically, and this is just my opinion: but I think Trump losing in 2020 is going to end up being the best thing to happen to him and the Republican Party. If he would have won, it would have been another 4 years of the left battering him every step of the way. For the last 4 years, Democrats had their chance and failed to show proper leadership. An overwhelming majority of people wanted change. And meanwhile, the last 4 years, Trump has built an army of political assassins that he is going to unleash in January that are going to change the scope of our nation forever
Or maybe Biden will resign, haha. You just never know do youI agree on all fronts. I suspect we probably disagree on whether the future Trump presidency will change the scope of the nation in a positive or negative way. But at this moment it’s all just conjecture anyway. Who knows, maybe Kamala will really spice things up and refuse to certify the election results and instill herself as president. That would be something Lolol
That would be wild if Biden stepped downOr maybe Biden will resign, haha. You just never know do you
And yes it’s conjecture. I am of the general opinion that he will do a lot of good and maybe some bad. And you have every right to feel the opposite and we can revisit in a couple years and see how he’s doing!