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Hahahahahahhaha good god you are brainwashed
Good god are you stupid, I mean that with all disrespect.
You really should get off your dad’s account and STFU. You continue to show your ignorance when it comes to sports and politics. 🤦‍♂️
You’re embarrassing Clemson U and my son who is a current student agrees.
 
Post what hardware computer you have.
i told you how long ago i bought my car. you can do the math on the hardware versions. you've been proven wrong. just take your L.

and just in case you can't use google
  • HW4: If your Tesla was manufactured in 2023 or later and is a refreshed Model S, Model X, or a new Model 3/Y, it’s likely equipped with HW4.
  • HW3: Found in vehicles manufactured between 2019 and early 2023
  • HW2: Found in vehicles manufactured before 2019
im sure you think it's a lie, but i waited for HW3. i was within the first month of HW3 rolling out on the production line. at that time elon said HW2 wouldn't be able to do FSD and we needed HW3. hilarious i thought he wasn't full of shit then. now you think HW 4 will do it. i doubt it.

hey serious question, what happens when you drive toward the sun. FSD stops working? thought so. i wonder how a robo taxi will solve that? maybe just dont drive just after the sun comes up?
 
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i told you how long ago i bought my car. you can do the math on the hardware versions. you've been proven wrong. just take your L.

and just in case you can't use google
  • HW4: If your Tesla was manufactured in 2023 or later and is a refreshed Model S, Model X, or a new Model 3/Y, it’s likely equipped with HW4.
  • HW3: Found in vehicles manufactured between 2019 and early 2023
  • HW2: Found in vehicles manufactured before 2019
im sure you think it's a lie, but i waited for HW3. i was within the first month of HW3 rolling out on the production line. at that time elon said HW2 wouldn't be able to do FSD and we needed HW3. hilarious i thought he wasn't full of shit then. now you think HW 4 will do it. i doubt it.

hey serious question, what happens when you drive toward the sun. FSD stops working? thought so. i wonder how a robo taxi will solve that? maybe just dont drive just after the sun comes up?
You lib douche bags praised Tesla for manufacturing your EV cars that Dementia Joe and Salad Harris demanded Americans buy yet your little libtards are vandalizing dealerships because he’s discovering fraud in the government which is no surprise.
You should embrace what they’re doing since your $15,000 yearly salary at McDonalds is getting taxed.
Celebrate little man, you’re going to take home $15/wk more . 😂😂
 
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You lib douche bags praised Tesla for manufacturing your EV cars that Dementia Joe and Salad Harris demanded Americans buy yet your little libtards are vandalizing dealerships because he’s discovering fraud in the government which is no surprise.
You should embrace what they’re doing since your $15,000 yearly salary at McDonalds is getting taxed.
Celebrate little man, you’re going to take home $15/wk more . 😂😂
I praised Tesla? Weird I don’t remember doing that. And lol at 15k. You’re trying way too hard.
 
You lib douche bags praised Tesla for manufacturing your EV cars that Dementia Joe and Salad Harris demanded Americans buy yet your little libtards are vandalizing dealerships because he’s discovering fraud in the government which is no surprise.
You should embrace what they’re doing since your $15,000 yearly salary at McDonalds is getting taxed.
Celebrate little man, you’re going to take home $15/wk more . 😂😂
Take it easy on the tequila. You are slurring your words and no one can understand your incoherent thoughts.
 
Take it easy on the tequila. You are slurring your words and no one can understand your incoherent thoughts.
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i told you how long ago i bought my car. you can do the math on the hardware versions. you've been proven wrong. just take your L.

and just in case you can't use google
  • HW4: If your Tesla was manufactured in 2023 or later and is a refreshed Model S, Model X, or a new Model 3/Y, it’s likely equipped with HW4.
  • HW3: Found in vehicles manufactured between 2019 and early 2023
  • HW2: Found in vehicles manufactured before 2019
im sure you think it's a lie, but i waited for HW3. i was within the first month of HW3 rolling out on the production line. at that time elon said HW2 wouldn't be able to do FSD and we needed HW3. hilarious i thought he wasn't full of shit then. now you think HW 4 will do it. i doubt it.

hey serious question, what happens when you drive toward the sun. FSD stops working? thought so. i wonder how a robo taxi will solve that? maybe just dont drive just after the sun comes up?
Got it. So you were dishonest by omission.

The whole board sees right through you.


The whole time we were arguing you knew you were using an inferior product that Tesla had acknowledged would be replaced for free. And you said nothing about that while bashing the product.

Dishonest.
 
Got it. So you were dishonest by omission.

The whole board sees right through you.


The whole time we were arguing you knew you were using an inferior product that Tesla had acknowledged would be replaced for free. And you said nothing about that while bashing the product.

Dishonest.
Dishonest? Shocked you won’t admit you’re wrong. A guy who switched handles to get out of a bet he lost thinks I’m dishonest. Hilarious. I was actually thinking of betting you earlier in this thread but we know how that goes with you Mr. Honesty.

Does it seem like I waste my time with elons tired lies? I haven’t followed this in years because it’s not happening. Promise after promise and here we are.

 
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Dishonest? Shocked you won’t admit you’re wrong. A guy who switched handles to get out of a bet he lost thinks I’m dishonest. Hilarious.

Does it seem like I waste my time with elons tired lies? I haven’t followed this in years because it’s not happening. Promise after promise and here we are.

You lied by omission and the board sees it. It’s right there for everyone to see.

Sling your shit, we get it, you are mad you got busted.


But I’ll say this, hundreds of people have viewed this thread and they all know how good Teslas are now. Thanks for the free advertising.
 
You lied by omission and the board sees it. It’s right there for everyone to see.

Sling your shit, we get it, you are mad you got busted.


But I’ll say this, hundreds of people have viewed this thread and they all know how good Teslas are now. Thanks for the free advertising.
I’m impressed by the backflips you’ll do to keep thinking you’re right. You’re probably the kind of guy who’s proud you squelched on that bet.

Elon has been promising this shit for a decade and so far… no robotaxi.
 
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This Tesla FSD argument has been one of the more painful tangents to read on here in a while. Jesus guys.

On that subject, it doesn’t matter “how good” they are to me because they look like ass. Not a single decent looking vehicle, at least for my tastes. The SUV (model X) looks like a midsize crossover with some minivan vibes. The truck looks ridiculous and has glued on exterior panels. Just a shit lineup.

About the only decent looking EV I’ve seen is the upcoming Scout (made in SC btw).

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This Tesla FSD argument has been one of the more painful tangents to read on here in a while. Jesus guys.

On that subject, it doesn’t matter “how good” they are to me because they look like ass. Not a single decent looking vehicle, at least for my tastes. The SUV (model X) looks like a midsize crossover with some minivan vibes. The truck looks ridiculous and has glued on exterior panels. Just a shit lineup.

About the only decent looking EV I’ve seen is the upcoming Scout (made in SC btw).

Scout-Traveler.jpg
Debating putting the $100 down for a reservation or whatever. Who knows whether I’ll be in the market then and may want the option.

Not sure if it’s worth the future e fights over the software though.
 
It’s not over the software.

The point is @DW4_2016 purposefully mislead by omission.

I’ll leave it at that. Everyone can read for themselves.
 
i told you how long ago i bought my car. you can do the math on the hardware versions. you've been proven wrong. just take your L.

and just in case you can't use google
  • HW4: If your Tesla was manufactured in 2023 or later and is a refreshed Model S, Model X, or a new Model 3/Y, it’s likely equipped with HW4.
  • HW3: Found in vehicles manufactured between 2019 and early 2023
  • HW2: Found in vehicles manufactured before 2019
im sure you think it's a lie, but i waited for HW3. i was within the first month of HW3 rolling out on the production line. at that time elon said HW2 wouldn't be able to do FSD and we needed HW3. hilarious i thought he wasn't full of shit then. now you think HW 4 will do it. i doubt it.

hey serious question, what happens when you drive toward the sun. FSD stops working? thought so. i wonder how a robo taxi will solve that? maybe just dont drive just after the sun comes up?
And didn't answer your question. No disengagements when driving toward the sun. No disengagements when it's raining either. No disengagements at night time either. The only disengagements i have now are courtesy disengagements. I don't remember the las time I had a safety engagement.

The reason it can still drive when going into the sun, is because of inference. It can infer a path from the data. It's simply amazing, there is no other way to put it. Robotaxi already exists and is running on millions of cars nationwide.
 
I’m impressed by the backflips you’ll do to keep thinking you’re right. You’re probably the kind of guy who’s proud you squelched on that bet.

Elon has been promising this shit for a decade and so far… no robotaxi.
You got busted for intellectual dishonesty. Is that a standard practice on your job also?
 
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I turned my Tesla in this week- loved the car and my lease was up after extending it 6 months. Tbh we wanted to go down to one car for a few months and save some money, BUT we definitely didn't want to be associated with the company any more either. That was our choice, and there are plenty of EV's on the market that are as good or significantly better at this point for when we get our second vehicle again.

But let's be real- vandalizing Tesla's and Charging Stations is stupid af. Like hate the dude who made them, and if you don't want to support him turn your car in or sell your stock or whatever.

But hurting/vandalizing American citizens for their choice of car is the height of stupidity. I leased mine 3 and a half years ago and that dude wasn't nearly the twat he is now, and there are millions who are the same. Why punish anyone who bought a Tesla in the past or leased it before Elon bought the presidency? Sh*t is stupid and ridiculous.
a tesla does not compare to my E bmw i5 M60. Tesla battery probably gets more mileage on a full battery but that is it. After that, compartively, a tesla is a tin can, imho.
 
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You did miss one part here. A lot of the people at the capital that were just there protesting peacefully were put in prison for months, many subjected to solitary confinement. Let’s just make sure we have equal application of the law. By that metric burning entire car lots to the ground is probably a life sentence.
Solitary confinement? are you sure about that?
 
I’ll try.

Cease fire agreed upon yesterday. You know how to google I bet.

Idk how you’re determining DOGE savings or the relevance of the amount. If we were wasting $6 on nonsense I’d want it to stop.

Simply not true in inflation. It’s gone down each month. Economics are complicated but it’s kinda simple when you can eliminate tons of nonsense wasteful spending, cut through all the regulations and start prioritizing things that make an impact at home. Inflation is caused by printing money - Milton Friedman.

What allies? The UK? Most Americans aren’t interested in living in a place that looks like that. Or do you mean NATO or the WHO or any of the other global organizations we fund with American worker taxpayer dollars at a clip of 90%. This one goes hand in hand with inflation.

The recession part is just nonsense too. It’s not understanding that we had an economy propped up by corruption.
be careful how you stretch that rubberband...
 
Trump didn't dislike the electric cars per say, i doubt he had ever ridden in one, he hated that the government was mandating the change.

Elon is the exact same. He does not want the government involved with subsidies. Call it rich if you want, I acknowledge Tesla got a lot of help from the subsidies they did receive, but Trump and Elon are both preaching free markets and individual liberties. The same as Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg. If the markets were free, then the subsidies would never have been there for Elon to arbitrage. He beat the democrats at their own game and now they are mad it seems.

Keep distorting markets and Elon et al will continue to outsmart you.
they may preach free markets and individual liberties but they sure dont practice it.
 
You got me. The NYT reported it so must be true. I’m glad that you think your last two posts are chock full of stats and facts too. lol. Do me a favor and post the NATO info. Here’s a fact.
NATO member states contribute to the alliance through both financial and military means, with the United States contributing the largest share of the NATO budget and military personnel, while other members strive to meet the 2% of GDP defense spending target.
You think if there’s a huge international war that NATO is going to call Poland for help? Bro.
Just be honest. You hate trump more than you love America.
blah blah blah.... just be honest. you would rather be an ally of russia than canada, the uk, europe, and ukraine. you like russia more than you love America.
 
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They cite the NYT like it’s the Torah
for four years, fox and trump made fun of electric cars and criticized biden on every single electric car initiative, tax break, tax credit, and EV charging stations infrastructure legislation. Now they are solicitating and begging everyone to buy Teslas. Trump put a tesla commerical on the front lawn of the white house and claimed he bought one, although i dont think he can drive anything except a golf cart.
 
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You should look into swapping out the bmw for an equivalent priced Tesla. The Tesla drives much better and it’s not close. I'm serious, go give one a test drive. It has one pedal driving. Instead of braking the car uses that energy to regenerate. The result is that you rarely if ever use the brake.

I understand it’s a big leap for some. It take a little adjusting. But look at Teslas brand loyalty. People who buy a Tesla almost never go back. There is a reason
i disagree. tesla does not drive, nor ride, better than my new i5 bmw m60. not even close.
 
I'll be honest i didn't pay much attention to Tesla or Elon back then. My position on climate change has always been that yes the climate will change, but i don't think that is a bad thing. That being said, I respect our planet and the environment and do believe in some duty to be good stewards of the environment.

My love of Tesla started 1) When i heard how much money Susquhanna made trading the stock one year and 2) I visited California with my family and saw 8 teslas in a row (It was not a part of some parade or something). I thought that was odd and that those customers must see value. Thats how i got into Tesla.

So honestly, i didn't hate Elon back then but to be fair he wasn't really on my radar either.

I'm not sure i would hate an environmentalist. I actually respect them. Things i don't respect are dishonestly and an overbearing government.

I think free markets and individual liberties are good goals worth striving for.
if you believe in those things, then why do you want to give elon your social security number and your medicare id?
 
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LOL - Tesla's are sold out across the nation and the stock is up 4% this morning on the news. It's not even a car company and the car sales are moving the needle. That is a big deal.

Any press is good press i suppose. I'm fairly certain Tim Walz called the bottom at $225.
 
for four years, fox and trump made fun of electric cars and criticized biden on every single electric car initiative, tax break, tax credit, and EV charging stations infrastructure legislation. Now they are solicitating and begging everyone to buy Teslas. Trump put a tesla commerical on the front lawn of the white house and claimed he bought one, although i dont think he can drive anything except a golf cart.
And no one cares.
 
blah blah blah.... just be honest. you would rather be an ally of russia than canada, the uk, europe, and ukraine. you like russia more than you love America.
I just want to be America. And support Americans. I know that’s weird for you all. But if I’m picking allies, I’m not picking anyone in the EU right now. That’s a disaster - basically what yall want here. I read yesterday that Conor McGregor is going to be arrested for his tweets in Ireland. You think we need allies that arrest people for mean tweets?
 
LOL - Tesla's are sold out across the nation and the stock is up 4% this morning on the news. It's not even a car company and the car sales are moving the needle. That is a big deal.

Any press is good press i suppose. I'm fairly certain Tim Walz called the bottom at $225.

Listening to squawk box this morning and they mentioned Tesla trading at 80X next year earnings and a $800B valuation vs. $50B for GM. I struggle with some of these valuations even if there is belief in the company, future tech, etc.
 
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They. Cannot. Stop.

This is Domestic Terrorism

Seattle Fox has a video: Woman in a Tesla is run off the road, her Tesla spun out, a man got out “She couldn't see anything except for his eyes and he threatened her. He said, you gotta get rid of this car now”

“I tell you that this is terrorism”

“A Democrat on my last hour— said he fears for his life, he wanted to buy a Tesla, but out of fear he wouldn't. A Democrat.”

We need a lot more people to start going to prison for attacking Tesla.

Wonder who the psycho supported in the election or just in general?? You cannot make this shit up. lol.

 
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Listening to squawk box this morning and they mentioned Tesla trading at 80X next year earnings and a $800B valuation vs. $50B for GM. I struggle with some of these valuations even if there is belief in the company, future tech, etc.
I would say load up on Tesla like a lot did with InBev and BL but it’s much harder to understand the market when a company is dealing with homegrown domestic terrorism. Much more difficult to forecast. Same thing happened to Target stock when right wingers started fire bombing their stores out of protest 😉.

The funniest part of this is watching libs complain or celebrate depending on their 401k investments. Unless your Tim Walz and you don’t understand that either.
 
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if you believe in those things, then why do you want to give elon your social security number and your medicare id?
Doesn’t the federal government already have your SSN and Medicare ID? Isn’t that who assigned them to us? I’m speaking as an American citizen. I’m not clear on how the illegals get there SSN and Medicare yet.
 
I don’t think I saw a single headline that read - Violent Attacks on Bud Light at home and overseas. We are not the same. Literally destroying other peoples property and lives over finding waste.
 
Listening to squawk box this morning and they mentioned Tesla trading at 80X next year earnings and a $800B valuation vs. $50B for GM. I struggle with some of these valuations even if there is belief in the company, future tech, etc.

Fair concerns. It is a high multiple stock.

At risk of repeating myself the stock price depends on FSD. It either is works and the stock is severely underpriced or it doesn't work and the stock is overpriced. I happen to believe to believe it works, my reasons in the thread above.

My thesis is that self driving software will give people more time to be productive. And we all know time = money.

If you could literally sit in your car and send emails, texts, or even rest instead of driving, that gives you more time to be productive. Even when you are not driving, imagine the implications of being able to put something in a car and send it somewhere?

No guarantees and no tears. I've been wrong many times before. But unless you use the product, you have no idea what is happening.
 
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