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Group to hold "Make Clemson Great Again" event at Tillman Hall

Does that mean it didn't happened? Not necessarily right?

Those schools' geographical location, past/history in regards to race relations, and current campus constituency (from a political standpoint) is the probably quite different from Clemson's even though the racial demographics may look similar between the schools. If I'm a rival recutirer for those other schools, I can think of no way to spin a visit by him negatively for those other schools. On the other hand, I can literally think of 5-7 ways to leverage his visit and spin it into something negatively for Clemson ( if I'm a rival recruiter). It happens man--trust me. Recruiting is an ugly game.

Wonder if they're calling their events "Make UCLA/Michigan/Oregon Great Again." You really don't see how this can be spun negatively for recruiting?


Sweet Jesus. Will you admit you have never listened to Milo speak?

If they were bringing in the grand dragon of the klan I would agree with you. But you continue to belabor this point that it's about race and anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes figuring out what the speaker is all about knows race isn't even in the equation.
 
Nah. I can see the confusion. "alt-right" is Clinton / main stream media derogatory wrapping up all Republicans as far right bigots. Hilldawg popularized this in her speech yesterday. It's like deducing a person's party if the say illegal or undocumented, basically. It shows your bias either way. That's all I'm saying...

Gotcha
 
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What are they going to say about Clemson?

"Those guys at Clemson let a gay conservative speak."


I don't see the connection. Care to enlighten me?

No--I don't.

Clemson is having a "Make Clemson great again". In Tillman Hall. Featuring a speaker some may call prejudiced. Still can't dont get it?

And what's up with the FYI on the "gay conservative"? What's the point of that again in this discussion? Can't figure out what the "so what" is here?
 
No, i agree with a lot of what you're saying and could see it happening. Was just saying that i haven't seen/heard the debates are negatively affecting recruiting

Gotcha. No prob. No i was just saying..its just another "issue" for a rival recruiter to use against us if he was willing to stoop so low.

You need to talk to @trich24. He's in metro Atlanta--mentors some younger kids there. Has aquaintenances & ties to some football recruits there. They're definitely hearing some negatives from some rival recruiters as it relates to some of this stuff.
 
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No--I don't.

Clemson is having a "Make Clemson great again". In Tillman Hall. Featuring a speaker some may call prejudiced. Still can't dont get it?

And what's up with the FYI on the "gay conservative"? What's the point of that again in this discussion? Can't figure out what the "so what" is here?

What has the man ever said or done that's evenly slightly prejudice?

You don't know and base you entire opinion on a poorly written article in a shvt rag of a paper. Congrats on your myopic view.

Becuase you are on here, I know you have an Internet connection please use it and fact check a few things in your life.
 
Gotcha. No prob. No i was just saying..its just another "issue" for a rival recruiter to use against us if he was willing to stoop so low.

You need to talk to @trich24. He's in metro Atlanta--mentors some younger kids there. Has aquaintenances & ties to some football recruits there. They're definitely hearing some negatives from some rival recruiters as it relates to some of this stuff.
Yea, i could definitely see it. As you said recruiting gets pretty dirty....

Really? Honestly doesn't surprise me too much, but wasn't aware it was occurring,(aside from the fake Clemson fan calling Rashaun Gary's mother.) @trich24 this true? How badly do you think it's hurting our brand in that area?
Edit: Obviously we've gotten some studs from there but i'm curious how much of a road block this is for our coaches
 
Ok all BSing aside, why are we allowing a Brit to come to America and explain to us what our problems are? I think Britain has problems of their own they need to deal with, with the whole Brexit and all. It seems like every other talk show these days is some guy from Europe commenting on America and now this guy.
 
Sweet Jesus. Will you admit you have never listened to Milo speak?

If they were bringing in the grand dragon of the klan I would agree with you. But you continue to belabor this point that it's about race and anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes figuring out what the speaker is all about knows race isn't even in the equation.

I haven't. I do know he works for Breibart--aka Fox News on steroids. I do know he was banned from Twitter inciting his followers to call Leslie Jones racist names behind the veil of freedom of speech. I do know his former boss is now Trump's Campaign manager. Oh..and he's gonna be the keynote speaker for the "'Make Clemson Great Again" rally (like back in 1945 or 1961?). That's about it.

I don't need to hear him speak to figure out what he's about. I'm not making it about race. What I'm telling you is this. It's very easy to spin this whole thing into something negative because it just is. Not sure why it bugs you that all I'm doing is pointing that fact out. It makes you uncomfortable--I can't help you with that.
 
Yea, i could definitely see it. As you said recruiting gets pretty dirty....

Really? Honestly doesn't surprise me too much, but wasn't aware it was occurring,(aside from the fake Clemson fan calling Rashaun Gary's mother.) @trich24 this true? How badly do you think it's hurting our brand in that area?
Edit: Obviously we've gotten some studs from there but i'm curious how much of a road block this is for our coaches

Not at all IMO. I think some of that stuff is there, but it's not a major hinderances for them (I'm sure Bama and Ole Miss deal with it too). I think our staff is truly made up of really good standup guys and people get that when they talk to them. That's what people see when they walk through the door & start talking. I think Dabo, Tony, Jeff, Brent and everyone else on our staff would smash any misgivings or concerns a recruit would have about us in a second.
 
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What has the man ever said or done that's evenly slightly prejudice?

You don't know and base you entire opinion on a poorly written article in a shvt rag of a paper. Congrats on your myopic view.

Becuase you are on here, I know you have an Internet connection please use it and fact check a few things in your life.

Man are mad at me! Lol! Listen...go get your tickets and check out your boy Milo. I see you're pretty excited to go. Glad you're supporting the "Make Clemson Great Again" event. Would love for you to come back and give us a synopsis of the event and what he said. I'm sure you and everyone else in attendance will get some good stuff to share with the rest of us.
 
I haven't. I do know he works for Breibart--aka Fox News on steroids. I know he was banned from Twitter inciting his followers to call Leslie Jones racist names behind the veil of freedom of speech. I do know his former boss is now Trump's Campaign manager. Oh..and he's gonna be the keynote speaker for the "'Make Clemson Great Again" rally (like back in 1945 or 1961?). That's about it.

I don't need to hear him speak to figure out what he's about. I'm not making it about race. What I'm telling you is this. It's very easy to spin this whole thing into something negative because it just is. Not sure why it bugs you that all I'm doing is pointing that fact out. It makes you uncomfortable--I can't help you with that.

Uncomfortable, no. Amazed by your thought process, yes. This is way past Milo and more of an indictment of your mental laziness.

But thank you for your honesty.

You admitted you are grossly uninformed and are incapable of making any logical or reasoned argument.

And the best part is that you "don't have to hear someone speak to figure out what they're about". You are going to form your opinions using only what someone told you instead of finding out on your own. This is the most intellectually lazy statement I have ever heard.

I will take some advice from Proverbs 26:4 and not point out all of the other inaccuracies in your post.

I hope students at Clemson and every other university continue to question and challenge themselves, their peers, the faculty and administration, to hear new ideas, be uncomfortable, be offended, to form opinions on their own and treat people as individuals.
 
http://www.thestate.com/news/local/education/article98051752.html

CLEMSON--An unofficial student group at Clemson University has rankled some by inviting alt-right conservative provocateur and Breitbart.com tech editor Milo Yiannopoulos to speak at the school during an event called “Make Clemson Great Again.”

A group of Clemson students called WeRoar Clemson announced Yiannopoulos will speak at Tillman Hall auditorium on Oct. 18. the Greenville News reported.

Yiannopoulos is an outspoken critic of political correctness, feminism, Islam and the progressive left. He was recently banned from Twitter after actress Leslie Jones, who’s black, faced a barrage of racist and obscene posts.

WeRoar Clemson member Zach Talley says the event will be a private, ticketed event.

It comes in the wake of a nine-day sit-in at Clemson’s administrative offices last semester over a lack of diversity on campus.


This is exactly the type of publicity we need right now. This will not only do wonders for our school and its image, but will definitely bring our student body together. Should be great for recruiting too!

Yeah, Clemson should never invite speakers that left-wingers don't like. Because we all know that things like a "nine-day sit-in at Clemson's administrative offices" always bring the campus together.

Milo is a conservative provocateur who is really good at rustling left-wing jimmies because he is willing to criticize feminism and other liberal shibboleths. He also has basically an anti-liberal comedy shtick, which, like all comedy, is partly serious but largely a gross exaggeration. But nothing he says is so objectionable that he shouldn't be allowed to speak on college campuses, and liberal groups have embarrassed themselves with their antics at other places where he spoke. It was especially ridiculous at DePaul, where BLM-affiliated protestors stormed the stage, violently grabbed the mic from the moderator, screamed in Milo's face, threatened him, and took a swing at him. The school made the sponsoring group pay extra for security, but then told the security not to do anything. So the event had to be cancelled after Milo only spoke for about 5 minutes. Here's footage:

As for the whole "Make Clemson Great Again" thing, it's an allusion to Milo's support for Trump. I don't agree with him there, but he's not saying that there's anything in particular that's wrong with Clemson (although he's been very strong with his criticism of the way speech is suppressed on college campuses, and the way feminism has played a key role in that trend).
 
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I haven't. I do know he works for Breibart--aka Fox News on steroids. I do know he was banned from Twitter inciting his followers to call Leslie Jones racist names behind the veil of freedom of speech. I do know his former boss is now Trump's Campaign manager. Oh..and he's gonna be the keynote speaker for the "'Make Clemson Great Again" rally (like back in 1945 or 1961?). That's about it.

I don't need to hear him speak to figure out what he's about. I'm not making it about race. What I'm telling you is this. It's very easy to spin this whole thing into something negative because it just is. Not sure why it bugs you that all I'm doing is pointing that fact out. It makes you uncomfortable--I can't help you with that.

He didn't "incite" anyone to attack Leslie Jones. He wrote this review of Ghostbusters, and a bunch of idiots decided they needed to take it out on Leslie: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/18/milo-reviews-ghostbusters/. Like everything with Milo, it's a little bit provocative, but there's nothing awful in there.

I guess I kind of agree with you that somebody could try to make everything that liberals or some black people disagree with into something negative, but in the end it's still a university and they shouldn't shy away from presenting different viewpoints because some people with an agenda will try to criticize Clemson because of it.
 
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Nah. I can see the confusion. "alt-right" is Clinton / main stream media derogatory wrapping up all Republicans as far right bigots. Hilldawg popularized this in her speech yesterday. It's like deducing a person's party if the say illegal or undocumented, basically. It shows your bias either way. That's all I'm saying...

given this comment, i cant imagine you listened to anything other than a soundbite or two from her speech. she very clearly, and repeatedly, differentiated between general republicans and donald trump's rhetoric"

"That one came shortly after the Charleston massacre, when Democrats and Republicans alike were doing everything they could to heal racial divides. Breitbart tried to enflame them further."

"The de facto merger between Breitbart and the Trump Campaign represents a landmark achievement for the “Alt-Right.” A fringe element has effectively taken over the Republican Party."

"This is a moment of reckoning for every Republican dismayed that the Party of Lincoln has become the Party of Trump. It’s a moment of reckoning for all of us who love our country and believe that America is better than this."
 
Yeah, freedom of speech is a b****, isn't it?
I'm sure the socialists that run the University are less than pleased. Socialists a d communists just hate freedom.

I was not aware that our college President was a socialist. I know the CFO and he is not for sure. Are you referring to anyone specifically or just making a blanket statement that cannot be backed up?
 
Yeah, Clemson should never invite speakers that left-wingers don't like. Because we all know that things like a "nine-day sit-in at Clemson's administrative offices" always bring the campus together.

Milo is a conservative provocateur who is really good at rustling left-wing jimmies because he is willing to criticize feminism and other liberal shibboleths. He also has basically an anti-liberal comedy shtick, which, like all comedy, is partly serious but largely a gross exaggeration. But nothing he says is so objectionable that he shouldn't be allowed to speak on college campuses, and liberal groups have embarrassed themselves with their antics at other places where he spoke. It was especially ridiculous at DePaul, where BLM-affiliated protestors stormed the stage, violently grabbed the mic from the moderator, screamed in Milo's face, threatened him, and took a swing at him. The school made the sponsoring group pay extra for security, but then told the security not to do anything. So the event had to be cancelled after Milo only spoke for about 5 minutes. Here's footage:

As for the whole "Make Clemson Great Again" thing, it's an allusion to Milo's support for Trump. I don't agree with him there, but he's not saying that there's anything in particular that's wrong with Clemson (although he's been very strong with his criticism of the way speech is suppressed on college campuses, and the way feminism has played a key role in that trend).

I'm actually listening to him speak at Butler University on YouTube right now. He's not as bad or corrosive as I anticipated/imagined. He's quite vulgar and brash and knowingly so. His beliefs seem to heavily rooted in free speech and challenging the ruling class. Calls the Republican establishment "Daddy". Loves Trumps approach to politics in that it's a "giant middle finger to the establishment". He thinks both democratic and republican establishment has failed. Thinks safe spaces and rape cultures on college campuses are BS. Calls straight with males the most marginalized group in America. Thinks middle class white women are the most privileged group in the country. Thinks blacks deserve more in the US, but not a fan of BLM. Calls Feminism poisonous. Has very strong viewpoints on his beliefs which clearly lean more to the conservative side. Loves black men (sexually).

I don't believe in a lot of what he says--we just have different politics. I don't see any reason he shouldn't be allowed to speak on campus. We still won't get good pub because of it, but I think it's reasonable for him to come on campus and express his opinions/ideas.
 
given this comment, i cant imagine you listened to anything other than a soundbite or two from her speech. she very clearly, and repeatedly, differentiated between general republicans and donald trump's rhetoric"

"That one came shortly after the Charleston massacre, when Democrats and Republicans alike were doing everything they could to heal racial divides. Breitbart tried to enflame them further."

"The de facto merger between Breitbart and the Trump Campaign represents a landmark achievement for the “Alt-Right.” A fringe element has effectively taken over the Republican Party."

"This is a moment of reckoning for every Republican dismayed that the Party of Lincoln has become the Party of Trump. It’s a moment of reckoning for all of us who love our country and believe that America is better than this."
hahaha triggered bitch has no idea what she's talking about. Like most here.
 
We still won't get good pub because of it, but I think it's reasonable for him to come on campus and express his opinions/ideas.
You mean we won't get good pub from the (((media))). Hope this doesn't hurt the application numbers of students and profs from up north who can continue to invert all the tradition at Clemson.
 
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I was not aware that our college President was a socialist. I know the CFO and he is not for sure. Are you referring to anyone specifically or just making a blanket statement that cannot be backed up?

More based on the leanings of most of the professors, not the president or CFO, who would have no voice in this, anyway.
And it's not just Clemson, it's pretty much all the colleges.
My guess is that well over 90% of the facultry votes Democratic, the party which has fully embraced the precepts of communism and socialism.
And it's not just my opinion. I have a friend who is a Constitutionalist computer engineering prof. His opinion too. He lives in that cesspool.
 
I'm hoping everyone reaches maximum burnout on outrage culture and we see a lot less of it on both sides after this election cycle.

I'm sure that's too much to hope for, but obviously what we need is less divisiveness.
 
I'm actually listening to him speak at Butler University on YouTube right now. He's not as bad or corrosive as I anticipated/imagined. He's quite vulgar and brash and knowingly so. His beliefs seem to heavily rooted in free speech and challenging the ruling class. Calls the Republican establishment "Daddy". Loves Trumps approach to politics in that it's a "giant middle finger to the establishment". He thinks both democratic and republican establishment has failed. Thinks safe spaces and rape cultures on college campuses are BS. Calls straight with males the most marginalized group in America. Thinks middle class white women are the most privileged group in the country. Thinks blacks deserve more in the US, but not a fan of BLM. Calls Feminism poisonous. Has very strong viewpoints on his beliefs which clearly lean more to the conservative side. Loves black men (sexually).

I don't believe in a lot of what he says--we just have different politics. I don't see any reason he shouldn't be allowed to speak on campus. We still won't get good pub because of it, but I think it's reasonable for him to come on campus and express his opinions/ideas.


I am so happy that you took the time to form your own opinion. I truly am.

Too many people today get their information from "Facebook news" and regurgitate factually bankrupt statements. Social media has given everyone a voice and too many people go around with half-cocked attitudes and ideas because they are under the believe that everything they see, read or hear is factual and represents the whole story.

I disagree with Milo on several of his stances but know that I have never found an instance where he presented something as fact that I couldn't independently verify.

I think it is equally important to verify information provided by those we agree with as well as those we disagree with. We don't all have to have the same opinion but if we all worked off the same set of facts (instead of feelings) it would go a long way to actually making some progress.
 
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http://www.thestate.com/news/local/education/article98051752.html

CLEMSON--An unofficial student group at Clemson University has rankled some by inviting alt-right conservative provocateur and Breitbart.com tech editor Milo Yiannopoulos to speak at the school during an event called “Make Clemson Great Again.”

A group of Clemson students called WeRoar Clemson announced Yiannopoulos will speak at Tillman Hall auditorium on Oct. 18. the Greenville News reported.

Yiannopoulos is an outspoken critic of political correctness, feminism, Islam and the progressive left. He was recently banned from Twitter after actress Leslie Jones, who’s black, faced a barrage of racist and obscene posts.

WeRoar Clemson member Zach Talley says the event will be a private, ticketed event.

It comes in the wake of a nine-day sit-in at Clemson’s administrative offices last semester over a lack of diversity on campus.


This is exactly the type of publicity we need right now. This will not only do wonders for our school and its image, but will definitely bring our student body together. Should be great for recruiting too!


God forbid we allow free speech and free ideas on a college campus. I also doubt their get together at Tillman hall will cause a 21% decrease in freshman enrollment that occurred this year at the University of Missouri after the get together they had.
 
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I am so happy that you took the time to form your own opinion. I truly am.

Too many people today get their information from "Facebook news" and regurgitate factually bankrupt statements. Social media has given everyone a voice and too many people go around with half-cocked attitudes and ideas because they are under the believe that everything they see, read or hear is factual and represents the whole story.

I disagree with Milo on several of his stances but know that I have never found an instance where he presented something as fact that I couldn't independently verify.

I think it is equally important to verify information provided by those we agree with as well as those we disagree with. We don't all have to have the same opinion but if we all worked off the same set of facts (instead of feelings) it would go a long way to actually making some progress.

See I'm not stubborn enough to not listen. I heard what you were saying. In hadn't heard him speak so I decided to take some time to listen to him. I can take some criticism & use it try to improve, & keep moving. He's the polar opposite of me in just about every way possible, but he's got some ok vantage points on a few things. I still wouldn't go listen to him, but I think it's important to offer varying viewpoints on a collegiate campus.
 
http://www.thestate.com/news/local/education/article98051752.html

CLEMSON--An unofficial student group at Clemson University has rankled some by inviting alt-right conservative provocateur and Breitbart.com tech editor Milo Yiannopoulos to speak at the school during an event called “Make Clemson Great Again.”

A group of Clemson students called WeRoar Clemson announced Yiannopoulos will speak at Tillman Hall auditorium on Oct. 18. the Greenville News reported.

Yiannopoulos is an outspoken critic of political correctness, feminism, Islam and the progressive left. He was recently banned from Twitter after actress Leslie Jones, who’s black, faced a barrage of racist and obscene posts.

WeRoar Clemson member Zach Talley says the event will be a private, ticketed event.

It comes in the wake of a nine-day sit-in at Clemson’s administrative offices last semester over a lack of diversity on campus.


This is exactly the type of publicity we need right now. This will not only do wonders for our school and its image, but will definitely bring our student body together. Should be great for recruiting too!
Who cares. Clemson had people from the right and left speak when I was a student, somehow Clemson survived. I think there was a gross overreaction to the group that did the sit in and I hope there's not a similar overreaction here.

Freedom of speech and the right to assemble and right to protest civilly are important and are part of what makes America different and special. It should be taken away from no one as long as they aren't trying to incite violence.
 
I'm actually listening to him speak at Butler University on YouTube right now. He's not as bad or corrosive as I anticipated/imagined. He's quite vulgar and brash and knowingly so. His beliefs seem to heavily rooted in free speech and challenging the ruling class. Calls the Republican establishment "Daddy". Loves Trumps approach to politics in that it's a "giant middle finger to the establishment". He thinks both democratic and republican establishment has failed. Thinks safe spaces and rape cultures on college campuses are BS. Calls straight with males the most marginalized group in America. Thinks middle class white women are the most privileged group in the country. Thinks blacks deserve more in the US, but not a fan of BLM. Calls Feminism poisonous. Has very strong viewpoints on his beliefs which clearly lean more to the conservative side. Loves black men (sexually).

I don't believe in a lot of what he says--we just have different politics. I don't see any reason he shouldn't be allowed to speak on campus. We still won't get good pub because of it, but I think it's reasonable for him to come on campus and express his opinions/ideas.

I applaud you for actually taking the time to research him and your fairly spot on.
 
This guy is British yet weighing in on our once-great country, gay and into black guys? I don't care what his views are, I can't support that.

In terms of free speech, I'm all for it as long as it's not these libtards protesting or people wanting equality.
 
People need to find something better to do with their time
 
This guy is British yet weighing in on our once-great country, gay and into black guys? I don't care what his views are, I can't support that.

In terms of free speech, I'm all for it as long as it's not these libtards protesting or people wanting equality.

Oxymoron is oxymoron. You are what you hate I guess.

Or troll score 5/10.
 
I'm actually listening to him speak at Butler University on YouTube right now. He's not as bad or corrosive as I anticipated/imagined. He's quite vulgar and brash and knowingly so. His beliefs seem to heavily rooted in free speech and challenging the ruling class. Calls the Republican establishment "Daddy". Loves Trumps approach to politics in that it's a "giant middle finger to the establishment". He thinks both democratic and republican establishment has failed. Thinks safe spaces and rape cultures on college campuses are BS. Calls straight with males the most marginalized group in America. Thinks middle class white women are the most privileged group in the country. Thinks blacks deserve more in the US, but not a fan of BLM. Calls Feminism poisonous. Has very strong viewpoints on his beliefs which clearly lean more to the conservative side. Loves black men (sexually).

I don't believe in a lot of what he says--we just have different politics. I don't see any reason he shouldn't be allowed to speak on campus. We still won't get good pub because of it, but I think it's reasonable for him to come on campus and express his opinions/ideas.

Kudos to you for being open-minded. That's truly liberal, not like what these campus social justice types are doing trying to shut down speech.
 
More based on the leanings of most of the professors, not the president or CFO, who would have no voice in this, anyway.
And it's not just Clemson, it's pretty much all the colleges.
My guess is that well over 90% of the facultry votes Democratic, the party which has fully embraced the precepts of communism and socialism.
And it's not just my opinion. I have a friend who is a Constitutionalist computer engineering prof. His opinion too. He lives in that cesspool.

Oh,ok. I thought you were referring to the leadership at CU at the Presidential cabinet level. Personally I think 90 percent is a bit high for the faculty at most southern colleges. Maybe some areas like the northeast but I doubt you hit 70 percent at Clemson and the like. Just my $.02.
 
Let the guy speak. Clemson should be known for being open to hearing debate from the full spectrum of politics (see Univ of Chicago letter to incoming freshmen).

As to the true substance of his talk, I doubt he knows Clemson well enough to suggest he has ideas to "make it great again." Seems to me the university is held in higher esteem today than at any time in its history.

This guy will talk and it won't impact recruiting in any way.
 
So it is on for one side of the discussion to literally say whatever they want no matter if they are right or wrong while costing schools millions and people jobs......

Meanwhile BLM is segregating this country more than anyone ever did and if anyone speaks up about them they are crucified.

We all knew this was coming. The race baiters have gotten what they wanted. Now everyone is pissed off no matter their color.

Stupid f@@@@@@" main stream media bitchassness
I will believe your a very intelligent person, thus, please do some homework about Our Great Country! "BLM Segregating This Country More Than Anyone Ever Did?" Hint - Slavery, Reconstruction, WW1 & 2, KKK, Jim Crowe, alright & feel free to Google!!
 
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So it is on for one side of the discussion to literally say whatever they want no matter if they are right or wrong while costing schools millions and people jobs......

Meanwhile BLM is segregating this country more than anyone ever did and if anyone speaks up about them they are crucified.

We all knew this was coming. The race baiters have gotten what they wanted. Now everyone is pissed off no matter their color.

Stupid f@@@@@@" main stream media bitchassness

this is your serious opinion? that BLM is "segregating this country more than anyone ever did".

Seriously, thats your honest and educated opinion?
 
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