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What is transgender curriculum? I agree nobody should convince or even suggest to a child they’re transgender, but can you teach a kid that those people exist? Where should the protection end? Should we be forced to tell them the truth about Santa? . I would doubt the cases of teachers influencing students to proclaim they’re transgender number in the 10s. Are there terrible people out there? Yes. Should we pass a shit load of unenforceable laws based on fear? Sounds familiar, but I just can’t place it.

if a hulk wants to be called mrs can you just do the reasonable thing and honor that? If I want you to call me John or Joanna why should you gaf? Is that persons right to freedom and persuit of happiness infringing on you calling them a different name? I don’t think anyone is looking for your testimonial about how great gender swapping is.

oh, and how do you know that animal doesn’t feel like it was born the wrong sex? Did you ask it?
Thanks for the response

What is transgender curriculum?

Curriculum that teaches that sex is fluid and can be changed. It cannot. Curriculum that teaches that if a person feels like a female/woman that they are in FACT a woman. "They" are not.

can you teach a kid that those people exist?

Sure. You can teach, in a age appropriate course ... I think psychology courses start in High School????? Where I balk is when it is taught that a transgender person is in fact the sex they believe they are. They are not. Males cannot menstruate. Males cannot give birth. Females are not born with penises.

Should we be forced to tell them the truth about Santa?

That is for the parents to decide. Not a teacher

I would doubt the cases of teachers influencing students to proclaim they’re transgender number in the 10s.

Maybe. But there appears to be a lot of opposition ... to parents not wanting teachers teaching that men can be women and that women can be men.

if a hulk wants to be called mrs can you just do the reasonable thing and honor that? If I want you to call me John or Joanna why should you gaf? Is that persons right to freedom and persuit of happiness infringing on you calling them a different name? I don’t think anyone is looking for your testimonial about how great gender swapping is.

again I have been very consistent about this, but I dont expect you to recall my individual posts, so I'll say it again

- If a man who was born John wants to be called Jane, I can do that
- If a person who is clearly a He/Him wants to be referred to as a she/her, I can do that
- If a person wants to be referred to as a they/them ... be patient with me because its grammatically strange ... but I can do that

I can do these things because Im polite, but I will never agree or believe that
- gender is fluid
- that men can be women and women can be men
- that men can menstruate
- that men can give birth

No one has the right to demand that I believe things that fly in the face of biology and that simply arent true. Just because a person feels like they are a woman, doesnt mean that they are a woman.


oh, and how do you know that animal doesn’t feel like it was born the wrong sex? Did you ask it?

So if we put on Dr. Doolittle hats on for a moment and assume "animals" can speak. It doesnt matter what the animal says how they feel. A male giraffe is a male giraffe. Its feels or opinion is utterly irrelevant.

Now ... lets not get confused here. I have been very specific, I limited my statement on transgenderism in zoology to mammals not the broad brush of "animals". This is important because there are "animals" that do change their sex. Certain fish, birds, reptiles and amphibians do it with regularity ... I mean ... that is how we got wild born Velociraptors in Jurassic Park ;) but no where in mammalian zoology do mammals change their sex.

BUT ... interesting nugget ... here is some bar trivia for you ;) female hyenas are born with what is commonly called a female penis. Its actually an enlarged clitoris, but it resembles the males penis and is actually larger. Lionesses have been observed in the wild, especially in prides that lack a current male, to grow manes and exhibit more male like behavior .... BUT ... in both of these cases.... they are still female. .... Now you know that and cant unknow it ;) haha
 
I'm not trying to debate the biology but I'd imagine until the late 60s the conversation couldn't be had, much less the surgery. But I also don't feel the need to disparage or judge those people because I'm sure they didn't make the decision lightly and unless I'm in their shoes, I can't understand what they went through to get to that point. But I know it couldn't have been easy and I have no interest in making them feel worse. I've never been asked to call someone by a different pronoun but it wouldn't bother me either - because I know that I don't HAVE TO if I don't want to, but it won't harm me either.

I'm only addressing your fear mongering about activists that indoctrinate children. How does that happen? Do they take them on field trips to tranny farms? Are they forced to read books about Sammy becoming Tammy? Or is this just your response from watching too much FoxNews? It's insane how they just have to repeat some extremely rare event a few times and all the conservatives pull out their pitchforks and demand laws be passed and businesses boycotted in the name of an imaginary culture war. Stop falling for it PAW.
This is a fair post ...

The basis of my opinions are purely anecdotal. Not so much in my county, but from my friends in other counties the topic of transgender is prevalent in public schools. SO much so that kids as young as kindergarten of my friends are being sent home with handouts/worksheets discussing transgenderism under the guise of social emotional learning. Friends of older kids are saying that school is just now a shit show with kids gender swapping weekly and kids who believe in truth ... the binary ... are being shouted down in class by their peers and ...even teachers ...

Luckily I live on the RIGHT side of the Bridge up here in Maryland.

But ... to answer your question ... How does that happen? As I said above its the teaching that men can be women and that women can be men and that a trans woman is in fact a woman. They are not. If the statement were "a trans woman believes and feels like they are a woman", I dont think I would would balk as much.

and as far as a "culture war" ... I dont know ... I do kind of go back to biological males being allowed to compete in womens sports. Right now I just have opinions ... without much emotion behind them ... but ... my daughter is 6 and does gymnastics, dance, and is beginning volley ball. Now lets say in 10,11,12 years she tryout for her schools volleyball team and is cut or doesnt make the team because a transgender girl takes her spot. I cant say for sure, but Id imagine I would be livid. She trains for a decade+ of her life only to lose her opportunity because a boy takes her spot? If gender and sex dont matter ... why segregate mens and womens teams at all? I'll tell you why ... because their are biological differences ... I mean .... they are obvious ... but Lord help someone if they share that opinion
 
Just saw this post …

because if you believe in science … humans are … mammals …
You addressed it in an earlier post regarding not using the broader “animal” vs mammal. It is prevalent in living animals, just not mammals - which you acknowledged
 
This is a fair post ...

The basis of my opinions are purely anecdotal. Not so much in my county, but from my friends in other counties the topic of transgender is prevalent in public schools. SO much so that kids as young as kindergarten of my friends are being sent home with handouts/worksheets discussing transgenderism under the guise of social emotional learning. Friends of older kids are saying that school is just now a shit show with kids gender swapping weekly and kids who believe in truth ... the binary ... are being shouted down in class by their peers and ...even teachers ...

Luckily I live on the RIGHT side of the Bridge up here in Maryland.

But ... to answer your question ... How does that happen? As I said above its the teaching that men can be women and that women can be men and that a trans woman is in fact a woman. They are not. If the statement were "a trans woman believes and feels like they are a woman", I dont think I would would balk as much.

and as far as a "culture war" ... I dont know ... I do kind of go back to biological males being allowed to compete in womens sports. Right now I just have opinions ... without much emotion behind them ... but ... my daughter is 6 and does gymnastics, dance, and is beginning volley ball. Now lets say in 10,11,12 years she tryout for her schools volleyball team and is cut or doesnt make the team because a transgender girl takes her spot. I cant say for sure, but Id imagine I would be livid. She trains for a decade+ of her life only to lose her opportunity because a boy takes her spot? If gender and sex dont matter ... why segregate mens and womens teams at all? I'll tell you why ... because their are biological differences ... I mean .... they are obvious ... but Lord help someone if they share that opinion
Bruh got crickets lmao
 
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What is transgender curriculum? I agree nobody should convince or even suggest to a child they’re transgender, but can you teach a kid that those people exist? Where should the protection end? Should we be forced to tell them the truth about Santa? . I would doubt the cases of teachers influencing students to proclaim they’re transgender number in the 10s. Are there terrible people out there? Yes. Should we pass a shit load of unenforceable laws based on fear? Sounds familiar, but I just can’t place it.

if a hulk wants to be called mrs can you just do the reasonable thing and honor that? If I want you to call me John or Joanna why should you gaf? Is that persons right to freedom and persuit of happiness infringing on you calling them a different name? I don’t think anyone is looking for your testimonial about how great gender swapping is.

oh, and how do you know that animal doesn’t feel like it was born the wrong sex? Did you ask it?
This crap is being pushed in a lot of schools whether you want to come to grips with it or even acknowledge it at all. In fact its now one of the base planks of the dirty dem party and thats a fact.
 
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for the most part, i don't really have any disagreements with what @PAWrocka said. my own anecdotal experience is the opposite of what he's experienced, but i don't doubt that he's telling the truth especially considering his location. there's probably a little embellishment hearing it second and third hand, but i'm sure that shit has happened.

and yes, there are biological differences between men and women - which is why in athletics trans athletes are required to undergo one year of hormone therapy before being able to compete with the opposite sex. i, personally, believe it should be longer than 1 year but i also understand it's such a minority occurrence that i'd rather have the person transitioning feel included and not ostracized so i get the 1 year delay.

utah gov Spencer Cox said it better than i ever could. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/utah-governor-spencer-cox-vetoes-transgender-sports-ban/
 
Love it that you libs are more than happy to stick it in a bad way to biological female athletes.
 
Love it that you libs are more than happy to stick it in a bad way to biological female athletes.
Love it that you use them for political fodder and the stop gaf about them one second later. Just like Jesus taught.
 
This is a fair post ...

The basis of my opinions are purely anecdotal. Not so much in my county, but from my friends in other counties the topic of transgender is prevalent in public schools. SO much so that kids as young as kindergarten of my friends are being sent home with handouts/worksheets discussing transgenderism under the guise of social emotional learning. Friends of older kids are saying that school is just now a shit show with kids gender swapping weekly and kids who believe in truth ... the binary ... are being shouted down in class by their peers and ...even teachers ...

Luckily I live on the RIGHT side of the Bridge up here in Maryland.

But ... to answer your question ... How does that happen? As I said above its the teaching that men can be women and that women can be men and that a trans woman is in fact a woman. They are not. If the statement were "a trans woman believes and feels like they are a woman", I dont think I would would balk as much.

and as far as a "culture war" ... I dont know ... I do kind of go back to biological males being allowed to compete in womens sports. Right now I just have opinions ... without much emotion behind them ... but ... my daughter is 6 and does gymnastics, dance, and is beginning volley ball. Now lets say in 10,11,12 years she tryout for her schools volleyball team and is cut or doesnt make the team because a transgender girl takes her spot. I cant say for sure, but Id imagine I would be livid. She trains for a decade+ of her life only to lose her opportunity because a boy takes her spot? If gender and sex dont matter ... why segregate mens and womens teams at all? I'll tell you why ... because their are biological differences ... I mean .... they are obvious ... but Lord help someone if they share that opinion
As it relates to sports, I think that's a fair discussion to be had but your anecdotal evidence sounds far-fetched. You've given me no reason to mis-trust you so I'll take you at your word. Having said that, this lib has never heard such a thing. I still maintain that it has to be exceedingly rare.

The bigger issue is creating laws to prevent speaking of these rarely discussed issues in that age group as all it does is send a loud and clear message to the community/state at large that LGBTQ is BAD.

What if a discussion of something even worse was penalized - like being a Republican, for example, and a law was passed to prevent teachers from mentioning that political orientation or a kid from mentioning that his parents were Republican? See where I'm going with this?
 
Kinda like how Democrats use Black people?

;)

ZING!

J/k ... kind of ...
you're not wrong - but it's not just black people, it's all minorities. then they(elected politicians) get all pissy when the shit they campaigned on doesn't get enacted and minorities/youth/etc don't show up to vote the next time and suddenly it becomes their (minorities/etc) fault
 
Wow, just wow. Sounds like you're the one whose been indoctrinated. If you really believe that activists are attempting to indoctrinate children, you might have an addiction to fear porn.
Um yah, CRT, 1619 project, and many many other leftist ideologies being put into grade schools IS indoctrination and it’s happening all over. The fact that one of the largest states in the union felt compelled to pass a law against sex Ed for 5-8 year olds should be enough for an objective person. Or a simple search for a few minutes returns mountains of stories about parents having enormous problems with school districts and their woke curriculum. Your statement is entirely disingenuous as it takes very little time to find as many examples as you have time to find them.
 
Um yah, CRT, 1619 project, and many many other leftist ideologies being put into grade schools IS indoctrination and it’s happening all over. The fact that one of the largest states in the union felt compelled to pass a law against sex Ed for 5-8 year olds should be enough for an objective person. Or a simple search for a few minutes returns mountains of stories about parents having enormous problems with school districts and their woke curriculum. Your statement is entirely disingenuous as it takes very little time to find as many examples as you have time to find them.
All the above is exaggerated culture war bullshit to rile your hateful base into a frenzy and drive them to the polls. If you can't see that Abbott and DeSantis are taking their cues from FoxNews in an effort to win the next election, you are willfully blind. And make no mistake, Fox has no interest in peddling the truth because their viewers demand hot garbage masquerading as news. The parents you refer to have been driven mad by the same lies and bullshit you immerse yourself in. No one on your side is interested in solving real problems because they don't have any ideas - so they keep lowering the bar like the dumb, authoritarian regressives they are. If they didn't spend all their efforts on "owning the libs" they'd have nothing. Just like you.
 
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All the above is exaggerated culture war bullshit to rile your hateful base into a frenzy and drive them to the polls. If you can't see that Abbott and DeSantis are taking their cues from FoxNews in an effort to win the next election, you are willfully blind. And make no mistake, Fox has no interest in peddling the truth because their viewers demand hot garbage masquerading as news. The parents you refer to have been driven mad by the same lies and bullshit you immerse yourself in. No one on your side is interested in solving real problems because they don't have any ideas - so they keep lowering the bar like the dumb, authoritarian regressives they are. If they didn't spend all their efforts on "owning the libs" they'd have nothing. Just like you.

@dpic73 is triggered. Congrats for taking the lead with this post. You have surpassed your posse of 5-7 libs. The walls are closing in and y’all know it. America is “waking” up to the garbage y’all spew. Are you a parent? I’m hoping you aren’t.
 
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Don’t believe your eyes and ears ladies and gentlemen, Dpic promises us that the LGBTwhateverthefvck indoctrination of school children is all Fox propaganda!
 
https://mobile.twitter.com/libsoftiktok

Here ya go Dpic, it’s all over the place. I’m sure you’ll find a way to spin it as fake news
He’s hopeless. I don’t waste my time with links, they are so deluded they won’t look at them, let alone consider that they don’t know everything and that others know things that they don’t. He’s here to spew nonsensical regurgitated talking points he’s been spoon fed by legacy media. Incapable thinking for himself.
 
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He’s hopeless. I don’t waste my time with links, they are so deluded they won’t look at them, let alone consider that they don’t know everything and that others know things that they don’t. He’s here to spew nonsensical regurgitated talking points he’s been spoon fed by legacy media. Incapable thinking for himself.
LOLOL that you know things that others don't, like:

- the election was stolen
- the insurrectionists were really Antifa
- the CA fires were caused by Jewish space lasers
- COVID was a Democratic plot to kick Trump out of office
- Fauci is the devil who wants to control your life
- the storm is coming

I could go on but the misinformation on your side is a toxic cauldron of conspiracy theories, election lies and disinformation campaigns cooked into a brew capable of infecting society and tearing a country apart -- we're all witnessing the great challenge of our times play out around us and you're a party to it.

And trust me, I am very well read and informed and watch and read all the putrid nonsense put out on the right so that I'm aware of their talking points. It's all bullshit to distract from the fact that their policies are unpopular and they have nothing that helps the average American. They've put their finger in the wind and realized that the culture war is their most effective tool to bend minds to their will. Thankfully most American's aren't stupid enough to fall for that putrid, smooth brained excrement.
 
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Grievance politics is p much all the right has at this point

well that and letting rapists sue their victims if they get an abortion
 
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I don’t care who goes to a gynecologist

that’s the difference between you and me - I want small government and you want the govt telling you what you can and can’t do

I guess you don’t have children?
 
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@moradatiger70 if is this the type of stuff in your video I’m not into it
And now we have a video of the future of the Republican Party getting an old fashioned from a male aide.

Republicans: “don’t say gay… unless it’s in my hotel room and we’re alone big boy.”

 
Are you one of those guys that thinks if your child learns about homosexuality and transgenderism they’ll in turn become those things?

Nope, I don’t believe a teacher should be teaching kindergartners about any of the above
 
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