***Hope in San Francisco

[Larry_Williams]

Numbers indicate their social-distancing measures are working.

After 14 days — the outermost period at which symptoms are believed to emerge post-infection — doctors at area hospitals are now reporting fewer cases than they expected to see at this point, and officials credit the lockdown with stemming the tide of patients they feared would flood into emergency rooms.

Northern California offered a rare glimpse of optimism Monday as the U.S. recorded its most coronavirus deaths in one day and Washington, D.C.-area jurisdictions — Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia — issued their first enforceable stay-at-home orders. Health officials across the nation are eyeing the Bay Area as a bellwether to determine the effects of social distancing, since the region's policies were replicated in various states and cities in subsequent days.

The Bay Area's primary goal two weeks ago was to slow the growth of serious cases, buying public officials and hospitals enough time to increase the number of hospital beds, respirators and staff necessary to handle a coronavirus surge.

 

[deshaunwatson4]

everyone loves to trash Californians and their liberal government but they've sure handled this better than anyone else so far

 

[TigerEE91]

Kind of related but here's an interesting look at peak hospital utilization by state, based on the University of Washington epidemiology model:



The good news is: 41 out of our 50 states look to peak during the month of April. You'll notice Florida is not in that list, however. I am afraid that it is going to be the worst place in the country to be in about a month.

 

[Jonada]

You'll notice Florida is not in that list, however. I am afraid that it is going to be the worst place in the country to be in about a month.

Florida is the worst place in the country to be 365 days a year.

Spoiler

Sorry. Couldn't resist

 

[Smiling_Tiger]

Kind of related but here's an interesting look at peak hospital utilization by state, based on the University of Washington epidemiology model:

View embedded media

The good news is: 41 out of our 50 states look to peak during the month of April. You'll notice Florida is not in that list, however. I am afraid that it is going to be the worst place in the country to be in about a month.

My parents live in Florida. They are absolutely PISSED at the governor for not taking stronger action. They are a little biased because they're both in their mid 70s so they are at higher risk but the not closing the beaches and other inaction by the Governor is getting them seriously riled up. The general belief where they live is this is going to be the end of him having any chance of getting re-elected when this term is up.

 

[CUFam98]

Kind of related but here's an interesting look at peak hospital utilization by state, based on the University of Washington epidemiology model:

View embedded media

The good news is: 41 out of our 50 states look to peak during the month of April. You'll notice Florida is not in that list, however. I am afraid that it is going to be the worst place in the country to be in about a month.

Fla is May 2.

But I question the model. They won't say where they got the data other than "University of Washington, the American Hospital Association, the World Health Organization, and a range of other sources."

I can tell you that the data on resources available for Georgia is flat out wrong.

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

everyone loves to trash Californians and their liberal government but they've sure handled this better than anyone else so far

Fair to say NY’s government is a captain in the liberal Super Bowl.

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

Florida is the worst place in the country to be 365 days a year.

Spoiler

Sorry. Couldn't resist

You must be joking.

 

[Watson to Renfrow]

Florida gonna Florida. Doesn’t hair gel count as a sanitizer? Could also use all of those jeans legs for breather material.

 

[Esso13]

My parents live in Florida. They are absolutely PISSED at the governor for not taking stronger action. They are a little biased because they're both in their mid 70s so they are at higher risk but the not closing the beaches and other inaction by the Governor is getting them seriously riled up. The general belief where they live is this is going to be the end of him having any chance of getting re-elected when this term is up.

So are my inlaws and couldn’t believe how he handled the spring breakers .

 

[Esso13]

Politics aside sounds like the govenor of Ca has worked well with the federal government/ Trump administration since it started.

 

[84Tiger]

Numbers indicate their social-distancing measures are working.

After 14 days — the outermost period at which symptoms are believed to emerge post-infection — doctors at area hospitals are now reporting fewer cases than they expected to see at this point, and officials credit the lockdown with stemming the tide of patients they feared would flood into emergency rooms.

Northern California offered a rare glimpse of optimism Monday as the U.S. recorded its most coronavirus deaths in one day and Washington, D.C.-area jurisdictions — Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia — issued their first enforceable stay-at-home orders. Health officials across the nation are eyeing the Bay Area as a bellwether to determine the effects of social distancing, since the region's policies were replicated in various states and cities in subsequent days.

The Bay Area's primary goal two weeks ago was to slow the growth of serious cases, buying public officials and hospitals enough time to increase the number of hospital beds, respirators and staff necessary to handle a coronavirus surge.

Appreciate the daily rays of sunshine you and Mickey Plyler are providing.

 

[deshaunwatson4]

Fair to say NY’s government is a captain in the liberal Super Bowl.

ok, I was counting on you or JimBob to hop in and respond to that

I am not saying I support everything about the California government. In fact, I will go ahead and say I support little about their typical mode of operation

But just giving credit where credit is due. They got ahead of this and are looking very, very smart because of it. That is all

 

[vatiger1]

That's good news and thanks for sharing.

 

[TigerEE91]

My parents live in Florida. They are absolutely PISSED at the governor for not taking stronger action. They are a little biased because they're both in their mid 70s so they are at higher risk but the not closing the beaches and other inaction by the Governor is getting them seriously riled up. The general belief where they live is this is going to be the end of him having any chance of getting re-elected when this term is up.

DeSantis just issued a 30-day stay-at-home order for the state. We get the government we deserve.

 

[Triple Tiger]

ok, I was counting on you or JimBob to hop in and respond to that

I am not saying I support everything about the California government. In fact, I will go ahead and say I support little about their typical mode of operation

But just giving credit where credit is due. They got ahead of this and are looking very, very smart because of it. That is all

How come no one is crediting Trump? He knew it was a pandemic before everyone else?? What gives??

 

[deshaunwatson4]

How come no one is crediting Trump? He knew it was a pandemic before everyone else?? What gives??

he is also 'really good at this stuff" because his uncle went to MIT

 

[clemsontyger04]

Social distancing helps. Shutdowns help. Its why dragging this out by half measures is so stupid.

 

[Tigerfaith]

Numbers indicate their social-distancing measures are working.

After 14 days — the outermost period at which symptoms are believed to emerge post-infection — doctors at area hospitals are now reporting fewer cases than they expected to see at this point, and officials credit the lockdown with stemming the tide of patients they feared would flood into emergency rooms.

Northern California offered a rare glimpse of optimism Monday as the U.S. recorded its most coronavirus deaths in one day and Washington, D.C.-area jurisdictions — Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia — issued their first enforceable stay-at-home orders. Health officials across the nation are eyeing the Bay Area as a bellwether to determine the effects of social distancing, since the region's policies were replicated in various states and cities in subsequent days.

The Bay Area's primary goal two weeks ago was to slow the growth of serious cases, buying public officials and hospitals enough time to increase the number of hospital beds, respirators and staff necessary to handle a coronavirus surge.

California and Washington have handled this much better than NY and NJ.

 

[Smiling_Tiger]

California and Washington have handled this much better than NY and NJ.

Our Governor has been great. Surprisingly so. Of course we sort of had to as we were the point of the spear in this thing in the US. The one thing that really pisses me off is this- We had a doctor at UW that started noticing a trend of symptomatic people coming back negative for the flu in January. She thought about Covid and started testing. She was ordered by the CDC under direction from the federal government to stop testing. We might have gotten ahead of it better if not for that.

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

Our Governor has been great. Surprisingly so. Of course we sort of had to as we were the point of the spear in this thing in the US. The one thing that really pisses me off is this- We had a doctor at UW that started noticing a trend of symptomatic people coming back negative for the flu in January. She thought about Covid and started testing. She was ordered by the CDC under direction from the federal government to stop testing. We might have gotten ahead of it better if not for that.

The question is why?

 

[Jonada]

California and Washington have handled this much better than NY and NJ.

What have they done that's that much different? NYC and NJ are just much more densely populated areas.

 

[Toasted712]

How come no one is crediting Trump? He knew it was a pandemic before everyone else?? What gives??

Because he said we didn't have a problem in the middle of the problem. Before you blast me, I voted for him.

 

[yeti24]

Anyone know the specifics behind the huge # of cases and fatalities in Michigan?

 

[Willence]

The question is why?

A lot of heads will need to roll at the CDC after this. They have done a real poor job with this.

 

[Frog209]

CA has done great considering their population and the size of their cities. The entire country has done pretty well except for NYC, Detroit, and New Orleans. The high numbers in NJ are also related to NYC. Those three cities are victims of poor leadership and the result is that they are responsible for half the deaths. Other large cities are faring much better.

 

[Smiling_Tiger]

CA has done great considering their population and the size of their cities. The entire country has done pretty well except for NYC, Detroit, and New Orleans. The high numbers in NJ are also related to NYC. Those three cities are victims of poor leadership and the result is that they are responsible for half the deaths. Other large cities are faring much better.

The leadership in NYC has been outstanding. The biggest thing working against them is NY is, by far, the highest population density in America. They rival the big cities in Europe and Asia for people per square mile. The “leadership is responsible for 1/2 the deaths” myth is backlash by Trump supporters against Andrew Cuomo because he’s been critical of Donnie

 

[Frog209]

The leadership in NYC has been outstanding. The biggest thing working against them is NY is, by far, the highest population density in America. They rival the big cities in Europe and Asia for people per square mile. The “leadership is responsible for 1/2 the deaths” myth is backlash by Trump supporters against Andrew Cuomo because he’s been critical of Donnie

Cuomo has been fine, but he was hands off in the beginning and allowed the idiot DeBlasio to run the show for too long, saying get out and about for Chinese Lunar New Year and go out on the town as recently as the second week of March. You can’t blast Trump for not acting soon enough and praise Cuomo when he did the same thing and let that moronic mayor of NYC be in charge for way too long. It’s literally the same thing you guys blast Trump for, except much worse considering Trump has 325M people to deal with and Cuomo has 19M.

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

The leadership in NYC has been outstanding. The biggest thing working against them is NY is, by far, the highest population density in America. They rival the big cities in Europe and Asia for people per square mile. The “leadership is responsible for 1/2 the deaths” myth is backlash by Trump supporters against Andrew Cuomo because he’s been critical of Donnie

Cuomo has been fine. De Blasio however, can definitely, and fairly blamed.

 

[bucknell95]

My parents live in Florida. They are absolutely PISSED at the governor for not taking stronger action. They are a little biased because they're both in their mid 70s so they are at higher risk but the not closing the beaches and other inaction by the Governor is getting them seriously riled up. The general belief where they live is this is going to be the end of him having any chance of getting re-elected when this term is up.

The beaches have been closed since March 20 in Florida, which may have been earlier than most states. I am in Naples, so maybe the reaction here is different from Miami or Ft Lauderdale, but people here seem to be ok with the governor. It’s more of the National media that seems to have run with a couple of shots of kids at spring break 3 weeks ago and run with it. At least in this area, everything seems to be pretty similar in what you can or can’t do as Charlotte, NC where my primary house is.

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

The beaches have been closed since March 20 in Florida, which may have been earlier than most states. I am in Naples, so maybe the reaction here is different from Miami or Ft Lauderdale, but people here seem to be ok with the governor. It’s more of the National media that seems to have run with a couple of shots of kids at spring break 3 weeks ago and run with it. At least in this area, everything seems to be pretty similar in what you can or can’t do as Charlotte, NC where my primary house is.

Naples is a nice place to be, as my wife’s aunt lives there. We frequent Marco Island for family vacation.

 

[1983Grad]

The leadership in NYC has been outstanding. The biggest thing working against them is NY is, by far, the highest population density in America. They rival the big cities in Europe and Asia for people per square mile. The “leadership is responsible for 1/2 the deaths” myth is backlash by Trump supporters against Andrew Cuomo because he’s been critical of Donnie

Cuomo is on video in early March telling New Yorkers to keep on living their every day lives. Nothing to worry about.

 

[ddot7]

The leadership in NYC has been outstanding. The biggest thing working against them is NY is, by far, the highest population density in America. They rival the big cities in Europe and Asia for people per square mile. The “leadership is responsible for 1/2 the deaths” myth is backlash by Trump supporters against Andrew Cuomo because he’s been critical of Donnie

I do think that in hindsight stricter measures could have and should have been taken earlier here, it wasn't just Cuomo but de Blasio in particular who handled it poorly. That being said, as you mentioned NYC is a very difficult place for something like this. Not just population density which has a significant impact but the reliance on public transportation is a huge factor, use of elevators and the volume of people coming in & out of the same lobbies, etc. One person unknowingly has it and due to how highly contagious it is, without knowing it could be passed to countless people in less than a day. Then it just multiplies from there.

The funny thing is Trump supporters who are immediately critical of everyone but Trump who tried to portray this as something being exaggerated by the left strictly in order to harm him. Now that it's clear that's not the case the narrative and thus the blame, has shifted. There have been mistakes made across the board, hopefully it doesn't continue because people/states think they'll be fine just because it hasn't impacted them yet. That's why the idea of opening things back up by Easter so that people could be in church together was so incredibly foolish and it's fortunate that someone/people talked Trump of that idiocy...it could have spread so easily in all of these other areas by the end of April.

If the clock could be turned back and everyone could agree at, let's say the beginning of March, to stay inside for an entire month and that would be the worst of it, I think a lot of people who are smart would sign up for that.

 

[Frog209]

I do think that in hindsight stricter measures could have and should have been taken earlier here, it wasn't just Cuomo but de Blasio in particular who handled it poorly. That being said, as you mentioned NYC is a very difficult place for something like this. Not just population density which has a significant impact but the reliance on public transportation is a huge factor, use of elevators and the volume of people coming in & out of the same lobbies, etc. One person unknowingly has it and due to how highly contagious it is, without knowing it could be passed to countless people in less than a day. Then it just multiplies from there.

The funny thing is Trump supporters who are immediately critical of everyone but Trump who tried to portray this as something being exaggerated by the left strictly in order to harm him. Now that it's clear that's not the case the narrative and thus the blame, has shifted. There have been mistakes made across the board, hopefully it doesn't continue because people/states think they'll be fine just because it hasn't impacted them yet. That's why the idea of opening things back up by Easter so that people could be in church together was so incredibly foolish and it's fortunate that someone/people talked Trump of that idiocy...it could have spread so easily in all of these other areas by the end of April.

If the clock could be turned back and everyone could agree at, let's say the beginning of March, to stay inside for an entire month and that would be the worst of it, I think a lot of people who are smart would sign up for that.

this isn’t true. Trump supporters only blame China. Other American politicians only get brought up because of the constant bashing of Trump when the people they think exuded true leadership, like Cuomo, are guilty of the same things. China is only person guilty of anything here, first for generating the virus, and then for hiding how bad it was from the rest of the world. You would never know that from watching the media as 100% of their effort has been to trash Trump, and pretty much protect China.

 

[tigerjimp]

Kind of related but here's an interesting look at peak hospital utilization by state, based on the University of Washington epidemiology model:

View embedded media

The good news is: 41 out of our 50 states look to peak during the month of April. You'll notice Florida is not in that list, however. I am afraid that it is going to be the worst place in the country to be in about a month.

Yes, but it looks like they will have the needed resources.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

 

[6clemtiger8]

CA gov has done a good job. I have no expertise but I wonder if CA had the virus earlier than other states and folks just battled thru it thinking it was just the flu. Will be interesting to know when the dust settles.

 

[Willence]

The leadership in NYC has been outstanding. The biggest thing working against them is NY is, by far, the highest population density in America. They rival the big cities in Europe and Asia for people per square mile. The “leadership is responsible for 1/2 the deaths” myth is backlash by Trump supporters against Andrew Cuomo because he’s been critical of Donnie

You are nuts if you think this. The transportation director (or whatever her office is) was telling people the subway was perfectly safe to use. The mayor was telling people to go out and that this wouldn't impact us. They were WOEFULLY behind in this crisis and New York is paying for it. This can all be demonstrated through video as needed. I don't think it's time to point fingers but let's be real about what's going on. Some were just flat irresponsible here. It may not be acceptable but it is understandable because what we've done to our economy over this is really scary. I just hope we can get it going again after this.

 

[Da Swami]

My parents live in Florida. They are absolutely PISSED at the governor for not taking stronger action. They are a little biased because they're both in their mid 70s so they are at higher risk but the not closing the beaches and other inaction by the Governor is getting them seriously riled up. The general belief where they live is this is going to be the end of him having any chance of getting re-elected when this term is up.

Gov Ron DeSantis failed

 

[Da Swami]

You are nuts if you think this. The transportation director (or whatever her office is) was telling people the subway was perfectly safe to use. The mayor was telling people to go out and that this wouldn't impact us. They were WOEFULLY behind in this crisis and New York is paying for it. This can all be demonstrated through video as needed. I don't think it's time to point fingers but let's be real about what's going on. Some were just flat irresponsible here. It may not be acceptable but it is understandable because what we've done to our economy over this is really scary. I just hope we can get it going again after this.

LoL so you are saying they was giving the reassurance as Trump huh?

Jan. 22: A reporter asks if there are worries about a Pandemic and Trump responds:

"No. Not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s — going to be just fine."

February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.” - Trump

The list is endless

March 29: “if we could hold that down, as we’re saying, to 100,000 — it’s a horrible number, maybe even less, but to 100,000, so we have between 100 [thousand] and 200,000 — we altogether have done a very good job.” - Same idiot

 

[Da Swami]

A lot of heads will need to roll at the CDC after this. They have done a real poor job with this.

CDC call the alarm back in mid January that we need to prepare for a pandemic