How do you feel about Trump 1 year later?
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Financially...exceeded expectations
Everything else...struggled mightily
Everything else...struggled mightily
My one hope was that we would see some spending restraint and basic fiscal responsibility with Republicans in control of both the Executive and Legislative Branches.
Washington has failed miserably in that regard. Rather than being drained, the swamp is deeper than ever.
Washington has failed miserably in that regard. Rather than being drained, the swamp is deeper than ever.
From my perspective (i.e. my every day life), I havent really seen much of a difference. I'll see next year what the new tax laws do for me.
I really wish he would stop F'N tweeting though ...
I really wish he would stop F'N tweeting though ...
Well, we're still here. To be honest, he wasn't my choice as a GOP candidate but he certainly has at least tried to execute his campaign promises. First time I've ever seen that happen in my lifetime. Still needs to STFU on twitter.
The economy is booming its doing as well as it has since 2007.
He needs to make like the governor of Hawaii and lose his Twitter pw
He needs to make like the governor of Hawaii and lose his Twitter pw
Agree it's miserable, but I think I've grown fond of it. Like our 0-59 streak against UNC
I tend to agree with the above. Financially, he's exceeded my expectations by a lot (although to be fair, the president gets too much credit and too much blame for the stock market/gas prices). Still the tax plan (whether you like it or not) was a solid win for him.
On everything else, he's about what I figured. Trump's management style is chaos based. He says different things to different people and lets them fight it out so the the strongest wins. That obviously works in the real estate business, but I'm not sure about politics. I imagine being president is a pretty tough job even when your staff is working together. I'd think it would be much harder when you intentionally pit one against the other.
What concerns me most is that he can't or won't learn. As mentioned above, his twitter habit doesn't do him any favors. A President sometimes HAS to lie. You don't tell reporters the business of the US if you are trying to be discrete, so some disinformation is necessary. But he lies about the stupid stuff as well. Basically I don't believe anything he says w/o solid proof.
Case in point. He's the healthiest President to ever serve. Really? So he doesn't work out and eats McDonalds all the time. Anyone can see (even in the tailored suits) that the guy is packing 30lbs extra in his gut. That's just a stupid lie... and COMPLETELY unnecessary.
On everything else, he's about what I figured. Trump's management style is chaos based. He says different things to different people and lets them fight it out so the the strongest wins. That obviously works in the real estate business, but I'm not sure about politics. I imagine being president is a pretty tough job even when your staff is working together. I'd think it would be much harder when you intentionally pit one against the other.
What concerns me most is that he can't or won't learn. As mentioned above, his twitter habit doesn't do him any favors. A President sometimes HAS to lie. You don't tell reporters the business of the US if you are trying to be discrete, so some disinformation is necessary. But he lies about the stupid stuff as well. Basically I don't believe anything he says w/o solid proof.
Case in point. He's the healthiest President to ever serve. Really? So he doesn't work out and eats McDonalds all the time. Anyone can see (even in the tailored suits) that the guy is packing 30lbs extra in his gut. That's just a stupid lie... and COMPLETELY unnecessary.
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We badly needed someone who could upset the status quo in politics. If Trump would just settle down with his rhetoric, especially on Twitter, he could be one of the very best to hold the seat.
The stock market is on fire
Major points for tax reform, huge disappointment on ACA
He has tried to commit to campaign promises (people aren't used to this)
He can't get out of his own way more times than not
The saga of his staff/cabinet/appointees has been humorous
Democrats want to block everything (see Shumer's tail tucked yesterday) even at the expense of the country they represent
Republicans are still dumb as can be
Same old, same old politics
Major points for tax reform, huge disappointment on ACA
He has tried to commit to campaign promises (people aren't used to this)
He can't get out of his own way more times than not
The saga of his staff/cabinet/appointees has been humorous
Democrats want to block everything (see Shumer's tail tucked yesterday) even at the expense of the country they represent
Republicans are still dumb as can be
Same old, same old politics
Eh about what I thought he would be. Which is not what I wanted.... He's my least favorite president yet my favorite of all time. The left has been completely losing it constantly since the election night, which is truly one of the great joys in life.
Season 1 was amazing. The cliff hanger left about the Government shutting down was amazing. Really excited about Season 2. I just hope Netflix doesn’t go overboard with the plot lines and character development in the coming seasons.
He needs to get that Wall built and get the 20 million illegals kicked out. Then end Obamacare. Send Hillary to jail and Lindsay Graham to N Korea. Then I’ll be happy. And keep tweeting, love how it pisses off the libs.
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It appears that instead of draining the swamp that Trump has decided to jump in and bath himself in it. There is really not much difference between Trump and W except that:
1) W had competent people around him
2) W actually was a devout christian and was not just pretending to be one (seriously has Trump attended church one time in 12 months?)
3) W did not turn the presidency into an episode of Keeping up with Kardashians with his incessant and childish tweeting.
The tax cuts will be great for me personally, but they are bad for the country long-term. And eventually we will get a Bernie Sanders type Dem in there and we will all be paying 70%.
What we need is more politicians willing to work together for the common good. The old adage is still true... "You have to give a little to get a little". Moderates are almost non existent these days. It's going to take more of them to fix the polarized climate up there in my opinion. I quietly held out hope that maybe Trump would actually be somewhat moderate but his acerbic nature makes it hard for anyone to want to work with him.
Pretty much what I expected. Maybe worse. And I don't think Trump and the economy are tied together. The economy was rolling along just fine under Obama.
economy best ever
african american unemployment record low
SC appointment A+
deregulating business A+
negotiated better deals i.e. NAFTA
ended catch and release
Tax plan
rebuilding the military
won the release of Americans abroad
african american unemployment record low
SC appointment A+
deregulating business A+
negotiated better deals i.e. NAFTA
ended catch and release
Tax plan
rebuilding the military
won the release of Americans abroad
you have to be drunk/high or just completely and totally uninformed.. every economic outlet out there credits trump for the economy.
http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/368904-economists-agree-trump-not-obama-gets-credit-for-economy
Outstanding in most of his decisions regarding laws, regulations and policies, particularly tax and business related. [I expected good things but he has exceeded expectations.] I currently believe with respect to immigration that he is doing a masterful job of asking for more than he wants with plans to get a "compromise" that is exactly what he (and much of America) wants.
Miserable as a leader and even as a descent human being. [I did not expect much, but he has still come up short.]
I did not vote for him in the primary, and I would not change that vote despite his succcesses.
#NeverTrumper but his judicial nominations (with the exception of 1-2 District Court nominees) have been outstanding. Of course, that’s because he’s not making them—the Federalist Society is.
Overall he's been a positive. Makes lots of mistakes but has the safety and welfare of the US at heart. He gets such unfair coverage from most of the media, that his tweeting, which sometimes makes me cringe, gets his point of view into the public eye. He is upsetting both Republicans and Democrats so he has to be doing a lot of things right.
Very pleased. Financially on the upswing and trying to make good on promises.
These are different times we live in. I think he is the perfect POTUS for our country.
He's freaking lights out on Twitter too.
He gets my vote for a second term. MAGA.
These are different times we live in. I think he is the perfect POTUS for our country.
He's freaking lights out on Twitter too.
He gets my vote for a second term. MAGA.
Very pleased. Financially on the upswing and trying to make good on promises.
These are different times we live in. I think he is the perfect POTUS for our country.
He's freaking lights out on Twitter too.
agree he gets my vote too..
I didn't vote for him in the primaries but I think he puts America first which is really a change from the Obama years
This....I really thought once the race was over and he became President, he would tone down the tweeting and remarks. I guess his ego is too big. But he is by no means the monster liberals try to make him out to be. Just amazes me calling him a Nazi , etc. Do they not realize how stupid that makes them look ?
I am able to compartmentalize fairly well as it relates to Trump.
I really like the stuff I like, and I ignore the rest.
Also, one prediction, those expecting a Democratic Wave in 2018 are in for some bad news.
2018 will be 1998 all over again. Look up the 1998 midterms if you dont remember.
I really like the stuff I like, and I ignore the rest.
Also, one prediction, those expecting a Democratic Wave in 2018 are in for some bad news.
2018 will be 1998 all over again. Look up the 1998 midterms if you dont remember.
Qualified accounts and other brokerage accounts sporting 20+% returns on a rolling 12 month basis. Outlook for 2018 appears strong. I’d say all in all, pretty fantastic first year. All the other bullshit is just that. Bullshit. Whether he tweets something asinine or knows a porn star in the biblical sense has no effect on my daily life. A strong economy and the opportunities that provides are what affect the most of us the most. Things have been fantastic on that front.
Are there areas wherein he’s fallen short and been a borderline buffoon at times? Absolutely. There are still major issues he will have to not only face but resolve, and they will also go a long way toward defining his presidency. But, year one? He’s exceeded my expectations.
Are there areas wherein he’s fallen short and been a borderline buffoon at times? Absolutely. There are still major issues he will have to not only face but resolve, and they will also go a long way toward defining his presidency. But, year one? He’s exceeded my expectations.
My favorite aspect is how the media absolute hates him.
Much better than I expected. I was not a trump voter in the primaries, but reluctantly voted for him in the general.
Good:
Economy is booming
ISIS pretty much gone
Tax plan is a big win
Rolled back a lot of regulations which I think were mostly a good thing
Building a stronger military
Seems to be trying to keep most of his promises, which is a strange thing to see these days
America first, not taking any bullshit from countries that we help protect and fund
Bad:
The left hates him so much that no Dem has the stones to actually try to work with him
Some of his rhetoric has caused much more division (some his fault, some due to crazy overreaction on the left)
He focuses way too much on anything negative said about him, which makes him look like a whiny bitch
Overall, if you take out emotion and personal feelings toward him, it's hard to see how anyone can say he's doing a bad job.
Good:
Economy is booming
ISIS pretty much gone
Tax plan is a big win
Rolled back a lot of regulations which I think were mostly a good thing
Building a stronger military
Seems to be trying to keep most of his promises, which is a strange thing to see these days
America first, not taking any bullshit from countries that we help protect and fund
Bad:
The left hates him so much that no Dem has the stones to actually try to work with him
Some of his rhetoric has caused much more division (some his fault, some due to crazy overreaction on the left)
He focuses way too much on anything negative said about him, which makes him look like a whiny bitch
Overall, if you take out emotion and personal feelings toward him, it's hard to see how anyone can say he's doing a bad job.
I still wouldn't let him babysit my kids or anything
I think this board was extra special election night and the days leading up to. So many libs quoting my posts, laughing at me, telling me ole Hill was gonna whip Trump and he had no chance.
And then that beautiful night.... and the libs were like , "WHAT?!!! HE FREAKING WON??!!!"
And a certain mod ( don't bother coming by quoting my post telling me ya didn't... because we both know ya did ) deleting Trump victory threads, left and right. And even had Libs leaving the board for a few days.
'Twas glorious. Priceless. Still makes me grin from ear to ear as I'm typing.....
I'm so confused...you're from NY, Melania is you sig, hOprah 2020 is your avatar, you like the tax cuts for you but don't think they're good for others
Yeah none of this has anything to do with anything. Complete conjecture and childish ranting.
That is an opinion piece by Liz Peek. Not exactly someone who you can go for a balanced opinion on both presidents.
The only actual solid info she uses is the Wall Street Journal article (found here since it doesn't even link it in the piece: https://www.wsj.com/articles/econom...d-for-u-s-growth-hiring-and-stocks-1515682893) where the economists call it a Trump tailwind. And basically say, well Trump hasn't screwed up the strong economic growth that was built by Obama getting us out of the financial crisis and continually adding jobs (remember those fake jobs) and growth after the recession. You can't say that Obama doesn't deserve a ton of credit for the current economy. But you are right that Trump hasn't screwed it up yet.
But really as others have said, presidents get too much blame or credit for the economy. Trump hadn't even signed many bills into law. Here is the list of 117 he has done and not many financial related: https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/president-trump-legislation/index.html
I give Trump credit for cutting some taxes (and businesses responded with some pay raises, but some of those companies also cut jobs and closed stores so we will see in the coming years the real impact to businesses). I also think there is a disconnect between how well Wall Street is doing and how well average americans are doing. Wall Street is very happy though and all of our collective retirement is now purposely mixed in with them, so that is a good thing on the whole. I still don't understand the repeal of the estate tax and a bunch of other things in that bill that balloon the deficit.
What concerns me most as a moderate is that Trump won't work with dems at all. He doesn't work with his own people he hired (despite going to hire 'all the best people'--he hasn't hired anyone from the business world--only special interests and Washington insiders). I'm not even going to mention people like Flynn. The golf outings and use of his own properties is alarming (esp bc the famed dossier said the golf courses were all bankrupt or struggling). Not a fan of not divesting and not being transparent about anything.
The lack of a moral compass has been sickening and watching Republican friends just excuse the language and behavior bc they got a Supreme Court nominee is the worst. I actually believed Repubs in 94' with the moral majority. The 130k dollar payment in hush money to a porn star (who admitted to the affair in 2011 so don't even try to say it is made up and is corroborated by friends invited by Trump to come and participate) when your wife just gave birth? How can that be excused by Christians so flippantly? If Obama had done something remotely similar like that he would have been investigated and ripped to shreds by conservatives (just like the slimeball John Edwards). Obama, for all his faults, didn't have a sex scandal and neither did Bush.
The wall is a joke and so not conservative (immigrants overstay visas people...). A wall does nothing to prevent drugs crossing the border. I wish he would do something about the actual problem of opioids that he talked about during the campaign--something Hillary never did. Opioids are a homegrown US, big pharma problem and people are suffering.
Trump is right to want to protect American workers (this is also not a conservative stance and it has been hilarious to watch conservatives flop to positions held by extreme dems for the past 20-30 years) on trade. Killing NAFTA will really hurt midwest farmers, but we will see...(good read on NAFTA: https://qz.com/1185878/nafta-negotiations-the-consequences-of-trumps-positions/).
Summary: economy: pretty good
morality: not good, cesspool level (why the lies--one database has 2 thousand lies and falsehoods...in the first year)
domestic policy: remains to be seen...
foreign policy/diplomacy: what a joke...
