I doubted Biden but...

[Essolover4]

Lolol. Ok...

Face masks help control transmission of COVID-19

In their paper on self-reported face mask wearing and control of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) transmission in the US, Rader and colleagues1 showed an elegant ecological analysis of data from across the US, estimating the effect of face mask use on the transmission...

www.thelancet.com

Can face masks protect against COVID-19?

Face masks can help slow the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Learn about mask types, which masks to use and how to use them.

www.mayoclinic.org

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19

The science around the use of masks by the public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. In this narrative review, we develop an analytical framework to examine mask usage, synthesizing the relevant literature to inform multiple areas: population impact, transmission...

www.pnas.org

The fact is there are. Numerous studies that also show them to be non effective. There are doctors who have said as much. I’ve talked to two local Dr’s who have told me it makes people feel safe but doesn’t slow the spread. When the positive cases and deaths were peaking more people than ever wore masks. Unless they start passing out N95 or better they are useless. I could not care less about a scientist who constantly flip flops and changes his recommendations. Faucci is a useless puppet.

 

[iceheart08]

The fact is there are. Numerous studies that also show them to be non effective. There are doctors who have said as much. I’ve talked to two local Dr’s who have told me it makes people feel safe but doesn’t slow the spread. When the positive cases and deaths were peaking more people than ever wore masks. Unless they start passing out N95 or better they are useless. I could not care less about a scientist who constantly flip flops and changes his recommendations. Faucci is a useless puppet.

soooo.... i cite multiple studies conducted by real scientists from reputable journals and sources, you cite "two local Dr's" and you think those things are equivalent?

and, the bolded, you are simply wrong. the linked studies that you obviously didnt look at say as much.

EDIT: in re: fauci. im not sure you understand what science is if you expect it to be infallible and never changing. but that tracks with your trust of "two local Dr's" over global health experts...

 

[Essolover4]

soooo.... i cite multiple studies conducted by real scientists from reputable journals and sources, you cite "two local Dr's" and you think those things are equivalent?

and, the bolded, you are simply wrong. the linked studies that you obviously didnt look at say as much.

EDIT: in re: fauci. im not sure you understand what science is if you expect it to be infallible and never changing. but that tracks with your trust of "two local Dr's" over global health experts...

I’ve done my own research and read multiple studies. I knew you’d attack the “local doctors” part and that’s ok. I get it. They just reinforced the same conclusion that I came to. These paper and cloth mask that 99% of Americans are wearing are BS. The majority of folks don’t even wear those right . The bottom line is we will not change each other’s minds.

 

[iceheart08]

I’ve done my own research and read multiple studies. I knew you’d attack the “local doctors” part and that’s ok. I get it. They just reinforced the same conclusion that I came to. These paper and cloth mask that 99% of Americans are wearing are BS. The majority of folks don’t even wear those right . The bottom line is we will not change each other’s minds.

You just want to keep those "studies" a secret?

 

[dpic73]

You just want to keep those "studies" a secret?

He probably forgot to save Trump's tweets before they shut him down, so he no longer has access to his "research".

 

[Essolover4]

You just want to keep those "studies" a secret?

Do your own research.

 

[Essolover4]

He probably forgot to save Trump's tweets before they shut him down, so he no longer has access to his "research".

Iceheart doesn’t need you to hold his hand loser. He’s a big boy.

 

[dpic73]

Iceheart doesn’t need you to hold his hand loser. He’s a big boy.

I was just stating the obvious. Iceheart already knew the answer, Trump water boy.

 

[Essolover4]

I was just stating the obvious. Iceheart already knew the answer, Trump water boy.

You have no clue who I voted for. You’re a shallow fool who follows whatever the masses say. Iceheart water boy

 

[dpic73]

You have no clue who I voted for. You’re a shallow fool who follows whatever the masses say. Iceheart water boy

Yeah I do know. My sources are reputable and widely accepted by the scientific community. You're afraid to produce yours, wonder why?

 

[Essolover4]

Yeah I do know. My sources are reputable and widely accepted by the scientific community. You're afraid to produce yours, wonder why?

When “science” and even numbers are manipulated to fit a narrative or political ideology then it’s useless to me. You are among 4 or 5 posters in this board who are so far left that you’ve lost all credibility. I could not care less about your opinions. I’m not wearing a diaper on my face to make you feel good. If you don’t like that....oh well.

 

[dpic73]

When “science” and even numbers are manipulated to fit a narrative or political ideology then it’s useless to me. You are among 4 or 5 posters in this board who are so far left that you’ve lost all credibility. I could not care less about your opinions. I’m not wearing a diaper on my face to make you feel good. If you don’t like that....oh well.

I'm actually quite middle of the road and there's nothing far left about wearing a mask - in other words, I live in reality. We all know your type though, no matter what kind of infantile garble your Orange Ape master spews, you will give up life and limb to make him right. Reality, science or facts don't matter to you. That's all this is - you're following marching orders, not a firmly held belief.

 

[Essolover4]

I'm actually quite middle of the road and there's nothing far left about wearing a mask - in other words, I live in reality. We all know your type though, no matter what kind of infantile garble your Orange Ape master spews, you will give up life and limb to make him right. Reality, science or facts don't matter to you. That's all this is - you're following marching orders, not a firmly held belief.

Nah

 

[Elul77]

What freedoms are given up? Why wouldn't the vaccine allow us to get back to normal?

Please give Pitbull an ear for about 2 minutes



EDIT: Extended version...

 

[JamesIslandTiger]

Yeah I do know. My sources are reputable and widely accepted by the scientific community. You're afraid to produce yours, wonder why?

Refute this https://fee.org/articles/new-danish-study-finds-masks-don-t-protect-wearers-from-covid-infection/

 

[yoshi121374]

Refute this https://fee.org/articles/new-danish-study-finds-masks-don-t-protect-wearers-from-covid-infection/

The curious case of the Danish mask study

DANMASK-19, the first trial of mask use during covid-19, was “negative.” Masks didn’t work. We knew this before the trial was published because we were told so on social media. The authors were reported by the media to be struggling to find a major journal for their trial.1 Journals weren’t...

www.bmj.com

Pretty easy

 

[dpic73]

Refute this https://fee.org/articles/new-danish-study-finds-masks-don-t-protect-wearers-from-covid-infection/

Besides the fact that FEE.org is a right leaning publication ( https://www.allsides.com/news-source/feeorg-media-bias ), the study they reference wasn't designed to prove that infected people can reduce the spread by wearing a mask. We all know that they're only effective if all parties are wearing them, not just a sample group of non-infected people.

"But scientists say that’s the wrong takeaway — and even the authors of the study say the results shouldn’t be interpreted to mean masks shouldn’t be worn."
"The study was conducted at a time when Danish authorities were not recommending masks to the general public, so most people both groups would encounter were not likely to be masked. Both groups were told to follow national public health guidance, which included physical distancing, avoiding crowds and washing hands."

Danish Study Doesn’t Prove Masks Don’t Work Against the Coronavirus - FactCheck.org

Q: Did a recent study in Denmark show that face masks are useless for COVID-19? A: No. The study found that face masks did not have a large protective effect for wearers — not that masks provide no protection at all or don’t offer benefits to others. FULL QUESTION Are masks proven to be useless...

www.factcheck.org

I could also show you 50 studies that say they do reduce the spread if everyone wore a mask, but I'm not going to spend my day going back and forth about this. My point was simply that Trump supporters are willing to give up a testicle to make him right, whether they believe something to be true or not. If Trump was a huge advocate of mask wearing, we wouldn't be having this conversation, because Trump supporters would be all in.

 

[jschneid30]

This is a huge problem as well. Even George Washington didn't want anything to do with being the first President.

I am always so leery of anyone who is too eager to have that job. It tells me they are too inexperienced to know what they're getting into or they're just plain nefarious individuals.

Or they want to use their position to get rich making deals with out enemies

 

[iceheart08]

Refute this https://fee.org/articles/new-danish-study-finds-masks-don-t-protect-wearers-from-covid-infection/

Lololol.

From your own article, "The Times notes that the research “did not contradict growing evidence that masks can prevent transmission of the virus from wearer to others”—

 

[iceheart08]

The curious case of the Danish mask study

DANMASK-19, the first trial of mask use during covid-19, was “negative.” Masks didn’t work. We knew this before the trial was published because we were told so on social media. The authors were reported by the media to be struggling to find a major journal for their trial.1 Journals weren’t...

www.bmj.com

Pretty easy

Besides the fact that FEE.org is a right leaning publication ( https://www.allsides.com/news-source/feeorg-media-bias ), the study they reference wasn't designed to prove that infected people can reduce the spread by wearing a mask. We all know that they're only effective if all parties are wearing them, not just a sample group of non-infected people.

"But scientists say that’s the wrong takeaway — and even the authors of the study say the results shouldn’t be interpreted to mean masks shouldn’t be worn."
"The study was conducted at a time when Danish authorities were not recommending masks to the general public, so most people both groups would encounter were not likely to be masked. Both groups were told to follow national public health guidance, which included physical distancing, avoiding crowds and washing hands."

Danish Study Doesn’t Prove Masks Don’t Work Against the Coronavirus - FactCheck.org

Q: Did a recent study in Denmark show that face masks are useless for COVID-19? A: No. The study found that face masks did not have a large protective effect for wearers — not that masks provide no protection at all or don’t offer benefits to others. FULL QUESTION Are masks proven to be useless...

www.factcheck.org

I could also show you 50 studies that say they do reduce the spread if everyone wore a mask, but I'm not going to spend my day going back and forth about this. My point was simply that Trump supporters are willing to give up a testicle to make him right, whether they believe something to be true or not. If Trump was a huge advocate of mask wearing, we wouldn't be having this conversation, because Trump supporters would be all in.

The anti science idiots won't even read the things they are linking, lololol

 

[iceheart08]

Refute this https://fee.org/articles/new-danish-study-finds-masks-don-t-protect-wearers-from-covid-infection/

seriously. do you not see the problem with this study?

NOBODY IS SAYING THAT IF YOU WEAR A MASK IT WILL STOP THE SPREAD.

EVERYONE IS SAYING THAT IF EVERYONE WEARS A MASK IT WILL STOP THE SPREAD.

THIS STUDY TESTED THE FORMER AND NOT THE LATTER. ITS OWN AUTHORS ADMITTED THAT THERE IS A GROWING BODY OF EVIDENCE THAT WHEN EVERYONE WEARS MASKS THE SPREAD IS HALTED.

seriously, do you not see this?

 

[acwill07]

This thread makes me laugh out loud...

Sure, shutting things down for a while would have worked early on... In fact it did... but we bailed on the plan too soon.

Now we are at a point where we are just going to have to suck it up and get vaccinated. But masks can help slow the continued spread and keep you from spreading COVID if you happen to be infected (even a mask that hasn't been washed as much as it needs to be can stop you from spraying droplets around).

But this mask/freedom thing is freaking LOL funny. Masks affect your freedom about as much as having to wear shoes and a shirt in a business. The fact of the matter is that Trump with help from the Dems managed to make the pandemic a political football early on.

You Trumpers told us it was fake... then it wasn't a big deal...then that it would be over by the summer... then not many people were dying ... then that the numbers of people dying were fake... Now.. more people die of everything else than COVID so we should just not worry about it. Dems on the other hand, told us the world was on fire and we needed to head to the fallout shelters to escape. The truth is that some modest measures could have done some real good here... It's pretty obvious that the US handled this about as badly as we could have.

This COVID thing is kind of a big deal. You deniers probably need to get on board with that at some point. Again, I'm not advocating for shutting everything down except in the most dire situations... but not wearing a mask is just stupid.

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