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So you disagree with Mayor Adams of NYC and Mayor Johnson of Chicago who say it is a very big problem?

Bury your head in the sand.

Man. This disingenuous idiotic response to a well thought out post seeking to engage is childish bullshit. Delete your account and get off the Internet man. Touch grass. Something.
 
The majority of the people screaming for 'Due Process' fail to realize that whenever you go in front of an immigration judge, that IS due process. Whenever an order of deportation is ordered, that is the process of immigration and the courts.
Do you have cases people are screaming about where they went before an immigration judge. Can’t speak for everyone (and there are fringe people on both sides that will just scream for screaming sake), but that is the due process we’re looking for. Not a drawn out trial. Just a chance to prove yourself before a judge, with representation.
 
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Do you have cases people are screaming about where they went before an immigration judge. Can’t speak for everyone (and there are fringe people on both sides that will just scream for screaming sake), but that is the due process we’re looking for. Not a drawn out trial. Just a chance to prove yourself before a judge, with representation.
What are they there to prove? They didn’t hop over the border? You apprehend people crossing a damn border with no documentation you don’t need a lawyer bro. It’s that simple.

They weren’t getting those trials because ICE and border patrol were deliberately removed from the border by the Biden administration. My understanding is once they’re “across” it becomes an entirely different process. That’s been the argument the entire time from people like me. It’s bullshit.
 
Do you have cases people are screaming about where they went before an immigration judge. Can’t speak for everyone (and there are fringe people on both sides that will just scream for screaming sake), but that is the due process we’re looking for. Not a drawn out trial. Just a chance to prove yourself before a judge, with representation.
The guy who has been all over the media from Maryland was deported by a judge. This whole bullshit about him being removed illegally is complete and utter BS.
 
The guy who has been all over the media from Maryland was deported by a judge. This whole bullshit about him being removed illegally is complete and utter BS.
Wasn’t that “gentlemens” case reviewed by TWO separate judges? We don’t even give our own citizens the type of treatment these guys are clamoring for.
 
The guy who has been all over the media from Maryland was deported by a judge. This whole bullshit about him being removed illegally is complete and utter BS.
Can you share an article stating as such. I truly haven’t seen that. Haven’t seen that he went before a judge since 2019.
 
Can you share an article stating as such. I truly haven’t seen that. Haven’t seen that he went before a judge since 2019.
Here is an article from yesterday. The important part is this:
but it’s hard to argue that Abrego Garcia didn’t get due process. He spent eight years in litigation making often dubious claims about the need for asylum in the U.S. He was justifiably deported. The issue at stake is whether he could be rightly sent to El Salvador and not somewhere else.

As I wrote before, this “due process” argument is dubious at best coming from Democrats. During the four years of the Biden administration, they did everything in their power to subvert U.S. immigration law to allows millions of illegal aliens to flood into the country.
 
Can you all imagine the success of this country if leftists cared as much about America as they do about illegal immigrant criminals getting a very specific version of due process? A version that most Americans won’t receive. A version that no other country on planet earth would adhere to. These white knights will eventually destroy the fabric of the nation under the guise of lawfulness. If they cared so damn much about following the law how come not one of them is accepting responsibility for the border. It’s disgusting and the only real answer is these people are so soft, so sensitive that they’ve allowed one blustery old man to live completely rent free in their minds. To the point they’ve completely dismissed and ran away from any sense of normalcy. Trump could announce a cure for cancer tomorrow and it would be met with jeers and protests, that’s how sick they are. The other part of this they don’t see is these actions are taking centrists and pushing them right. I was a centrist. I still am pretty liberal on drugs and things like that but the democrats position on multiple issues has definitely pushed me right of center. There’s a reason college kids, for the first time in decades, are way more right leaning. The incessant pandering to fringe outliers is crazy and it will kill that party hopefully.
 
Can you all imagine the success of this country if leftists cared as much about America as they do about illegal immigrant criminals getting a very specific version of due process? A version that most Americans won’t receive. A version that no other country on planet earth would adhere to. These white knights will eventually destroy the fabric of the nation under the guise of lawfulness. If they cared so damn much about following the law how come not one of them is accepting responsibility for the border. It’s disgusting and the only real answer is these people are so soft, so sensitive that they’ve allowed one blustery old man to live completely rent free in their minds. To the point they’ve completely dismissed and ran away from any sense of normalcy. Trump could announce a cure for cancer tomorrow and it would be met with jeers and protests, that’s how sick they are. The other part of this they don’t see is these actions are taking centrists and pushing them right. I was a centrist. I still am pretty liberal on drugs and things like that but the democrats position on multiple issues has definitely pushed me right of center. There’s a reason college kids, for the first time in decades, are way more right leaning. The incessant pandering to fringe outliers is crazy and it will kill that party hopefully.
They don't care.

They hate Trump, much of which was based off of propaganda that they fell for. They would rather see America fail than to see Trump succceed and admit they were wrong. That's where we are at right now.

Trumps immigration policy has overwhelming public support. We already voted on this and We The People spoke loud and clear.

The democrats used dirty trick after dirty trick to stymie his first term. Trump should not let that happen again and he can prevent it by suspending Habeus Corpus.
 
They don't care.

They hate Trump, much of which was based off of propaganda that they fell for. They would rather see America fail than to see Trump succceed and admit they were wrong. That's where we are at right now.

Trumps immigration policy has overwhelming public support. We already voted on this and We The People spoke loud and clear.

The democrats used dirty trick after dirty trick to stymie his first term. Trump should not let that happen again and he can prevent it by suspending Habeus Corpus.
The whole argument is stupid. They are clamoring for due process for people that got here by breaking our laws. Let’s just pretend that we have unlimited resources and money and time and we can give all 15-20 million of them court dates with a lawyer and a judge. What do they think is going to happen, the illegal is going to walk in and tell the judge they are seeking asylum and ask for an extension or appeal , all 15-20 million of them, no ones walking into court and saying I’m MS13 and I hopped over the fence. These people live in fantasy land. And what about the fellow Americans that have to live beside and call these invaders neighbors, do they not deserve due process and protection? What did they do wrong? That would take literally decades to complete. They created a problem by not following the law and simultaneously demand Trump follow the law to remove the people they let in illegally. Petulant children.
 
Libs do not care about stuff like this at all.

Well make sure those sex traffickers get due process before deporting them. It’s most likely the DHS is inept, under funded and under manned because of DOGE and Trump is a xenophobe and racist. I’ll bet this was just a couple of dads and this is a misunderstanding. Those sweet law abiding men need to be released and spend time with their families. Am I doing it right libs?
 
Who'd have thought affording people due process to ensure they are actually guilty of the crimes they're being accused of would be such a controversial subject.
Who’d have thought letting 20 million undocumented, unvetted migrants into the country would’ve caused a problem.

Oh I know, anyone with a functioning brain

Why is this one so hard for yall? One administration unlawfully let millions in. Why does the next administration have to lawfully remove them?

Why can one set of laws be ignored but the other must be followed. Explain it.
 
What we are learning is rules only apply when it fits into the narrative. It’s ok for an administration to completely ignore the laws of our country as long as they are D. It’s ok to burn down cities and not punish vandals as long as long they’re D. Everyone else has to follow the rules. Two tiered system. Imagine believing you’re the morality police while your entire party is the party of lawlessness.
 
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@iceheart08 blocks me when i make a statement and back it up with solid evidence.

20%

I love seeing @iceheart08 post

He like all people has huge disagreements with me which needs to be respected but for me not followed

He is based on my observations a very hard core Democrat who walks the line and follows the Dem Party line and talking points which I believe to be horrific for the America I want to see as the best for all people

I guess his ideology bent is no worse than my rigid stance as I agree totally with the Trump lead America first MAGA revolution which is going to energize America in my opinion to a Golden Age

Iceheart08 might not be on board with it but I think he is on the same train as us whether he likes it or not

Go Trump LOL
 
Who'd have thought affording people due process to ensure they are actually guilty of the crimes they're being accused of would be such a controversial subject.

Due Process can be defined as simply showing up in front of a JAG officer and having been shown the dude or lady is an illegal then put them on the plane out the country
 
Apparently you want a Dictatorship?

Explain why the requirement to speak English?

Let’s staff the Air Traffic Controllers using DEI as the standard with all the Controllers and pilots speaking different languages.

Let you and your family be the test family to fly in this situation to prove the viability of this plan

Or let’s do plan B

You are having Brain Surgery with a DEI pick for all of the medical team and the surgical team speak different languages

You have the operation and then report back how it works out

Hope this helps explain why diversity is NOT ALWAYS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PEOPLE
 
Due Process can be defined as simply showing up in front of a JAG officer and having been shown the dude or lady is an illegal then put them on the plane out the country
No no no. They have to be given a full trial in front of a judge in a courtroom of their choosing. They must have tax payer funded representation from a lawyer. They must be allowed to appeal or extend. These are rights they’ve earned by breaking our laws. Idc if it takes 5-10 years, that’s what you assholes get for not passing our “bipartisan” amnesty, I mean immigration, policies. What don’t you understand? Are you some kind of racist or xenophobic idiot? They have every much a right to our country, resources and people as you do. Just because your ancestors fought and died for this country gives you no right to decide if something is detrimental to it. The reason they come illegally is because of evil, hate filled border agents that arrest them and return them home, that’s unacceptable and a violation of basic human rights, if they make it to the border, they win, that’s our rules. Get over it.
 
No no no. They have to be given a full trial in front of a judge in a courtroom of their choosing. They must have tax payer funded representation from a lawyer. They must be allowed to appeal or extend. These are rights they’ve earned by breaking our laws. Idc if it takes 5-10 years, that’s what you assholes get for not passing our “bipartisan” amnesty, I mean immigration, policies. What don’t you understand? Are you some kind of racist or xenophobic idiot? They have every much a right to our country, resources and people as you do. Just because your ancestors fought and died for this country gives you no right to decide if something is detrimental to it. The reason they come illegally is because of evil, hate filled border agents that arrest them and return them home, that’s unacceptable and a violation of basic human rights, if they make it to the border, they win, that’s our rules. Get over it.

You seem mad.

How about we ask for our elected officials to change our immigration laws. That's the job of Congress and they tried to make progress and Trump killed it.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?
 
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Let’s staff the Air Traffic Controllers using DEI as the standard with all the Controllers and pilots speaking different languages.

Let you and your family be the test family to fly in this situation to prove the viability of this plan

Or let’s do plan B

You are having Brain Surgery with a DEI pick for all of the medical team and the surgical team speak different languages

You have the operation and then report back how it works out

Hope this helps explain why diversity is NOT ALWAYS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PEOPLE
Hell yes I would because any controller, pilot or surgeon has to go through the same exact training and pass the same exact tests, no matter what race, gender or nationality they are. This has only become an issue since Maga invented it but it's a patently ridiculous argument.
 
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I love seeing @iceheart08 post

He like all people has huge disagreements with me which needs to be respected but for me not followed

He is based on my observations a very hard core Democrat who walks the line and follows the Dem Party line and talking points which I believe to be horrific for the America I want to see as the best for all people

I guess his ideology bent is no worse than my rigid stance as I agree totally with the Trump lead America first MAGA revolution which is going to energize America in my opinion to a Golden Age

Iceheart08 might not be on board with it but I think he is on the same train as us whether he likes it or not

Go Trump LOL
Well according to a lot on here, he’s an expert so you should take everything he posts as gospel truth lol. I was actually hoping he’d chime in on my OP as I understand he’s employed by that party. I’m sure they know that most of these positions are being taken because they are opposite of Trump and that’s the only reason. That’s probably embarrassing for them. A party that prides itself on being educated and tolerant and open minded has been wrecked by an old man with a bad haircut. If your ideas can’t hold up any better than that you may want to go back to the drawing board and try again. They have senators flying to El Salvador to white knight illegals, how many of them came to NC after the hurricane. They can’t even take care of their own people yet they demand we take in more and more people that have no interest in assimilating. It makes no sense and that’s the key indicator of these just being anti-Trump and not pro-America or pro-constitution even. It’s a smoke screen.
 
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You seem mad.

How about we ask for our elected officials to change our immigration laws. That's the job of Congress and they tried to make progress and Trump killed it.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Mad isn’t the right word. I’m beyond frustrated and fatigued with this whole thing. It’s an asinine argument, there’s virtually no support for what you guys are whining about. I don’t understand how we got on opposing teams over a dude that just talks shit. And I am tired of hearing about Trump killing a bill when he wasn’t even in office. I mean damn, you don’t hear people crying about Obama letting in illegals. I’m sure he was all for that but he wasn’t in office. Same with Trump. He may have wanted that but who gives shit. Just do what’s right. No one in that party that’s honest can tell me that letting 20 million people in was the right thing to do. Yet yall want to argue about it. It’s dumb. Just say hey we ****ed up. We get it. Let’s fix it and move on. But you have to keep doubling down

Edit: and furthermore elected officials have zero to do with your and other libs opinions. I disagree vehemently with how yall think this should be handled. It has nothing to do with congress. We need the people to stand up before we can expect our leaders to. It’s time for you to stand up too.
 
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Mad isn’t the right word. I’m beyond frustrated and fatigued with this whole thing. It’s an asinine argument, there’s virtually no support for what you guys are whining about. I don’t understand how we got on opposing teams over a dude that just talks shit. And I am tired of hearing about Trump killing a bill when he wasn’t even in office. I mean damn, you don’t hear people crying about Obama letting in illegals. I’m sure he was all for that but he wasn’t in office. Same with Trump. He may have wanted that but who gives shit. Just do what’s right. No one in that party that’s honest can tell me that letting 20 million people in was the right thing to do. Yet yall want to argue about it. It’s dumb. Just say hey we ****ed up. We get it. Let’s fix it and move on. But you have to keep doubling down

Edit: and furthermore elected officials have zero to do with your and other libs opinions. I disagree vehemently with how yall think this should be handled. It has nothing to do with congress. We need the people to stand up before we can expect our leaders to. It’s time for you to stand up too.


This is the shit stain they want in our country. We have our own problems we don't need other countries gang bangers.

Can't wait for the campaign trail showing democrats have margaritas with MS-13. Going to be a doozy for them to shake that one.

 
This is the shit stain they want in our country. We have our own problems we don't need other countries gang bangers.

Can't wait for the campaign trail showing democrats have margaritas with MS-13. Going to be a doozy for them to shake that one.

The guy is a grade A, no doubt gang member, illegal immigrant, domestic abuser and drug dealer THAT we know of. That’s just basic google search information and these guys want to fly him back to the country and coddle him. Why? So you can sleep with security guards and feel good about yourself. Take a moment and go to page 1 of this thread and look at my OP. Then look at the first two reactions. I asked how and why Chickie changed positions so drastically. The answer from our resident libs was…. Wait for it…. Trump. Wtf. Like wt actual f. This entire group of people are captured by nonsensical hate of one person. To the point they’d subject their own brothers and sisters to life living with people that have no business being here, don’t speak the language and frankly don’t like America. They like our generosity and our social programs and our legal system but they hate America and Americans. What gives them the right to force people to live that way.
 
Well according to a lot on here, he’s an expert so you should take everything he posts as gospel truth lol. I was actually hoping he’d chime in on my OP as I understand he’s employed by that party. I’m sure they know that most of these positions are being taken because they are opposite of Trump and that’s the only reason. That’s probably embarrassing for them. A party that prides itself on being educated and tolerant and open minded has been wrecked by an old man with a bad haircut. If your ideas can’t hold up any better than that you may want to go back to the drawing board and try again. They have senators flying to El Salvador to white knight illegals, how many of them came to NC after the hurricane. They can’t even take care of their own people yet they demand we take in more and more people that have no interest in assimilating. It makes no sense and that’s the key indicator of these just being anti-Trump and not pro-America or pro-constitution even. It’s a smoke screen.

I'm not employed by the Democratic party.

We oppose pretty much everything he's doing, not because of who he is, but because of what he is doing. We see as a fundamental restructuring of the country into one in which the blind pursuit of wealth take precedence over humanity. And we know, when that happens, rich people get richer, and the poor suffer.

So gfy with your nonsense about what you think we think.

Delete your account
 
I'm not employed by the Democratic party.

We oppose pretty much everything he's doing, not because of who he is, but because of what he is doing. We see as a fundamental restructuring of the country into one in which the blind pursuit of wealth take precedence over humanity. And we know, when that happens, rich people get richer, and the poor suffer.

So gfy with your nonsense about what you think we think.

Delete your account
Damn bro. I have a differing opinion so I have to gfy and delete my account? The open minded dialogue is awesome. Thank you for the insightful answer and leading by example. Tolerance is truly amazing.

And how is deporting illegals under the law changing the country to pursue wealth? They giving out money to deport people?
 
I'm not employed by the Democratic party.

We oppose pretty much everything he's doing, not because of who he is, but because of what he is doing. We see as a fundamental restructuring of the country into one in which the blind pursuit of wealth take precedence over humanity. And we know, when that happens, rich people get richer, and the poor suffer.

So gfy with your nonsense about what you think we think.

Delete your account


The rich got richer under Democratic rule. Every policy from Biden under his reign made the rich richer. Inflation - Rich get rich with their stocks while costs go up for the poor living day to day. Small Mom and Pop businesses did terrible while the big box stores did great.

Democrats are all lip service.

They were all against illegal immigration until Trump was against it. We posted videos with their own words. They were not Fake videos and they were not AI videos. Those were actual things said by all the top democratic leadership.

Don't believe your lying eyes!

The world is onto the democrats. This is why they are polling at 20%

All they can do is hate Trump. The have no ideas, no vision, and no leadership.

I won't delete my account. You need to wake up to the hypocrisy of your own party.
 
Oh a video of King Fatpiggy and yoshi 😂


If it’s not yoshi it’s definitely @UrHuckleberry

Assuming this isn't some skit for engagement, this person is unhinged.

Now a question for you. Would you agree that people doing stuff like this are equally unhinged?

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They're both just different sides of the same coin. Triggered by a hat. Triggered by a flag.
 
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