Interested in the board's opinion on this (SNAP benefit limitations)

[scotchtiger]

Rep. Jordan Redman, R-Idaho, similarly touted the new administration as a reason why he thought his new bill to remove candy and soda from the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, would be successful. The bill, HB 109, would require the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare to seek a federal waiver to remove these items from SNAP. When asked by a fellow state lawmaker why he thought such a waiver to get rid of these foods would be successful, Redman cited a Trump administration that would be friendly to him.


I'm a huge fan of this. We drink zero soda in our house. Candy is an infrequent treat. Those aren't the foods and drinks that need to be made available to support the nutrition of our poor communities.

There should be a broad removal of shit foods and drinks from any sort of government assistance. We know that there is a massive obesity epidemic in the US and also that children with lower family income have higher rates of childhood obesity.

Let's promote healthier options while also contributing to lower Medicaid and CHIP costs through healthier lifestyles. This is a complete no-brainer. Anyone disagree?

 

[fatpiggy]

Rep. Jordan Redman, R-Idaho, similarly touted the new administration as a reason why he thought his new bill to remove candy and soda from the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, would be successful. The bill, HB 109, would require the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare to seek a federal waiver to remove these items from SNAP. When asked by a fellow state lawmaker why he thought such a waiver to get rid of these foods would be successful, Redman cited a Trump administration that would be friendly to him.


I'm a huge fan of this. We drink zero soda in our house. Candy is an infrequent treat. Those aren't the foods and drinks that need to be made available to support the nutrition of our poor communities.

There should be a broad removal of shit foods and drinks from any sort of government assistance. We know that there is a massive obesity epidemic in the US and also that children with lower family income have higher rates of childhood obesity.

Let's promote healthier options while also contributing to lower Medicaid and CHIP costs through healthier lifestyles. This is a complete no-brainer. Anyone disagree?

I would question the governement getting involved. After all they are the ones who pushed the food pyramid on us for years. That is, i think, universally frowned upon now. Correct me if I am wrong.

But i agree with your general sentiment. What the gov does promote should be healthy.

 

[yoshi121374]

Rep. Jordan Redman, R-Idaho, similarly touted the new administration as a reason why he thought his new bill to remove candy and soda from the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, would be successful. The bill, HB 109, would require the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare to seek a federal waiver to remove these items from SNAP. When asked by a fellow state lawmaker why he thought such a waiver to get rid of these foods would be successful, Redman cited a Trump administration that would be friendly to him.


I'm a huge fan of this. We drink zero soda in our house. Candy is an infrequent treat. Those aren't the foods and drinks that need to be made available to support the nutrition of our poor communities.

There should be a broad removal of shit foods and drinks from any sort of government assistance. We know that there is a massive obesity epidemic in the US and also that children with lower family income have higher rates of childhood obesity.

Let's promote healthier options while also contributing to lower Medicaid and CHIP costs through healthier lifestyles. This is a complete no-brainer. Anyone disagree?

I would be fine with this, but as I've said many times before, better food costs a lot more money on the front end. People have balked everytime this is attempted.

I also would point out that there is a major issue currently with food deserts in many low income areas. For many,even if they wanted to eat fresh produce, for example, it's not available to them in their local stores.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Rep. Jordan Redman, R-Idaho, similarly touted the new administration as a reason why he thought his new bill to remove candy and soda from the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, would be successful. The bill, HB 109, would require the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare to seek a federal waiver to remove these items from SNAP. When asked by a fellow state lawmaker why he thought such a waiver to get rid of these foods would be successful, Redman cited a Trump administration that would be friendly to him.


I'm a huge fan of this. We drink zero soda in our house. Candy is an infrequent treat. Those aren't the foods and drinks that need to be made available to support the nutrition of our poor communities.

There should be a broad removal of shit foods and drinks from any sort of government assistance. We know that there is a massive obesity epidemic in the US and also that children with lower family income have higher rates of childhood obesity.

Let's promote healthier options while also contributing to lower Medicaid and CHIP costs through healthier lifestyles. This is a complete no-brainer. Anyone disagree?

First of all I don't know what SNAP does allow to purchase SO I am speaking in ignorance

Second the government needs to stay the Hell out of the person's daily life.

So am on limb here but since SNAP is FREE let's jump in

With that said if I were in charge of the program, I would agree with you in your basic premise that I would create a list of acceptable healthy foods that the SNAP would allow as a purchase item.

Stuff like potato chips, sugary drinks, high glycemic, high sugar foods would be prohibited. Attach some sort of code that would not allow payment on these items.

Milks, brown rice, grits, whole wheat stuff or foods considered healthy would be OK.

Stuff like bakery pastries and loaded sugar bombs would be restricted.

SO YES IF YOU GET FREE FOOD YOU GET HEALTHY GOOD FOOD or you get nothing at all.

 

[dbjork6317]

Rep. Jordan Redman, R-Idaho, similarly touted the new administration as a reason why he thought his new bill to remove candy and soda from the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, would be successful. The bill, HB 109, would require the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare to seek a federal waiver to remove these items from SNAP. When asked by a fellow state lawmaker why he thought such a waiver to get rid of these foods would be successful, Redman cited a Trump administration that would be friendly to him.


I'm a huge fan of this. We drink zero soda in our house. Candy is an infrequent treat. Those aren't the foods and drinks that need to be made available to support the nutrition of our poor communities.

There should be a broad removal of shit foods and drinks from any sort of government assistance. We know that there is a massive obesity epidemic in the US and also that children with lower family income have higher rates of childhood obesity.

Let's promote healthier options while also contributing to lower Medicaid and CHIP costs through healthier lifestyles. This is a complete no-brainer. Anyone disagree?

No issue with that

 

[scotchtiger]

I would be fine with this, but as I've said many times before, better food costs a lot more money on the front end. People have balked everytime this is attempted.

I also would point out that there is a major issue currently with food deserts in many low income areas. For many,even if they wanted to eat fresh produce, for example, it's not available to them in their local stores.

Both absolutely true. I've proposed some "stick" like approaches on these topics (ex. insurance surcharge for controllable obesity). But I would also be supportive of federal investment in food deserts, nutrition education requirements in schools, etc.

This is a major, major problem and a massive contributor to our spending issues (listen up DOGE). How can we make America healthier not only because it's the right thing to do, but because it will also lower costs in Medicaid, CHIP, Medicare and even in typical health insurance premiums? It should be a top 3 initiative nationally.

 

[dbjork6317]

Both absolutely true. I've proposed some "stick" like approaches on these topics (ex. insurance surcharge for controllable obesity). But I would also be supportive of federal investment in food deserts, nutrition education requirements in schools, etc.

This is a major, major problem and a massive contributor to our spending issues (listen up DOGE). How can we make America healthier not only because it's the right thing to do, but because it will also lower costs in Medicaid, CHIP, Medicare and even in typical health insurance premiums? It should be a top 3 initiative nationally.

I’m also a little curious how corporate interests will react to this. I can’t imagine coca-cola would be very supportive of this.

 

[WapPride]

I’m also a little curious how corporate interests will react to this. I can’t imagine coca-cola would be very supportive of this.

Aren't the junk food conglomerates already tinkering with additives to combat the effect of ozempic and other weight loss pills?

 

[TigerGrowls]

Rep. Jordan Redman, R-Idaho, similarly touted the new administration as a reason why he thought his new bill to remove candy and soda from the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, would be successful. The bill, HB 109, would require the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare to seek a federal waiver to remove these items from SNAP. When asked by a fellow state lawmaker why he thought such a waiver to get rid of these foods would be successful, Redman cited a Trump administration that would be friendly to him.


I'm a huge fan of this. We drink zero soda in our house. Candy is an infrequent treat. Those aren't the foods and drinks that need to be made available to support the nutrition of our poor communities.

There should be a broad removal of shit foods and drinks from any sort of government assistance. We know that there is a massive obesity epidemic in the US and also that children with lower family income have higher rates of childhood obesity.

Let's promote healthier options while also contributing to lower Medicaid and CHIP costs through healthier lifestyles. This is a complete no-brainer. Anyone disagree?

Totally agree.

 

[ANEW]

I would be fine with this, but as I've said many times before, better food costs a lot more money on the front end. People have balked everytime this is attempted.

I also would point out that there is a major issue currently with food deserts in many low income areas. For many,even if they wanted to eat fresh produce, for example, it's not available to them in their local stores.

Twice in one day i'm quoting you and being somewhat civil. Wow! I agree with this 100%.

 

[yoshi121374]

Twice in one day i'm quoting you and being somewhat civil. Wow! I agree with this 100%.

Because I just want to talk about issues like a rational adult.

 

[scotchtiger]

I’m also a little curious how corporate interests will react to this. I can’t imagine coca-cola would be very supportive of this.

Yup, the lobbying will be next level.

 

[scotchtiger]

Aren't the junk food conglomerates already tinkering with additives to combat the effect of ozempic and other weight loss pills?

I wouldn’t doubt it. Big processed food is a cancer on the country, literally and figuratively.

 

[MTTiger19]

If your dad gave you money when you were young (not earning), would it be unreasonable for him to tell you where you could spend his money?

 

[scotchtiger]

Whelp, settled then. Putting the Nutrition back in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program has bipartisan support.

Is it too far to say that selling your SNAP benefits should be viewed as fraud and you should risk losing all entitlements for that fraud? Those benefits should be used for healthy nutrition only. Not candy, soda, nor a cash swap for drugs or cigarettes.

 

[MTTiger19]

Whelp, settled then. Putting the Nutrition back in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program has bipartisan support.

Is it too far to say that selling your SNAP benefits should be viewed as fraud and you should risk losing all entitlements for that fraud? Those benefits should be used for healthy nutrition only. Not candy, soda, nor a cash swap for drugs or cigarettes.

100%

 

[dpic73]

Whelp, settled then. Putting the Nutrition back in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program has bipartisan support.

Is it too far to say that selling your SNAP benefits should be viewed as fraud and you should risk losing all entitlements for that fraud? Those benefits should be used for healthy nutrition only. Not candy, soda, nor a cash swap for drugs or cigarettes.

I'm not wholly opposed but I can't help but think about young children and how awful it would be to never get a treat and only have brown rice, broccoli and canned tuna to eat. Seems cruel

 

[MTTiger19]

I'm not wholly opposed but I can't help but think about young children and how awful it would be to never get a treat and only have brown rice, broccoli and canned tuna to eat. Seems cruel

Get a job. Pay for your food. Eat whatever you want.

 

[dpic73]

Get a job. Pay for your food. Eat whatever you want.

LOL cute. I'm thinking about a single mom barely scraping by for whatever reason. Might have been fired for working in DEI and can't find another job.

 

[scotchtiger]

I'm not wholly opposed but I can't help but think about young children and how awful it would be to never get a treat and only have brown rice, broccoli and canned tuna to eat. Seems cruel

Nobody is saying they can’t have them. Just saying that taxpayers aren’t responsible for providing treats and soda. Their parents can still buy them whatever they want.

 

[dpic73]

Nobody is saying they can’t have them. Just saying that taxpayers aren’t responsible for providing treats and soda. Their parents can still buy them whatever they want.

I understood ...just talking out loud.

 

[scotchtiger]

LOL cute. I'm thinking about a single mom barely scraping by for whatever reason. Might have been fired for working in DEI and can't find another job.

I’m pretty intolerant of entitlements, but kids and single moms get a pass from me.

That pass comes with a catch, though. If there’s an able-bodied father out there not supporting that woman and child, every effort should be made to ensure he pays the government back for those entitlements. Even if it takes a lifetime, including forfeiture of SS.

 

[MTTiger19]

LOL cute. I'm thinking about a single mom barely scraping by for whatever reason. Might have been fired for working in DEI and can't find another job.

Yea that’s the working classes responsibility.

 

[dpic73]

Yea that’s the working classes responsibility.

Should be Elon's

 

[MTTiger19]

Should be Elon's

Bro. You have to be the worst poster on here. lol. If mom doesn’t have 50 cents to get junior a snicker bar we got much bigger problems. But you carry on.

 

[dpic73]

Bro. You have to be the worst poster on here. lol. If mom doesn’t have 50 cents to get junior a snicker bar we got much bigger problems. But you carry on.

I'm sorry you don't understand a simple tongue in cheek but let a naysayer know if you wanna take it outside.

 

[MTTiger19]

I'm sorry you don't understand a simple tongue in cheek but let a naysayer know if you wanna take it outside.

Pick a Wachovia in the upstate, no drones.

 

[kudzuking]

Get a job. Pay for your food. Eat whatever you want.

That’s right…….”young children” should definitely just get a job and pay for their food.

 

[MTTiger19]

That’s right…….”young children” should definitely just get a job and pay for their food.

You dickheads are insane. Why should working class folks be on the hook to buy honey buns and Hawaiian Punch. You’re basically saying providing them with healthy food isn’t enough. Wtf is wrong with you.

And when I say providing I mean giving it to them with money from working class people. It’s insane the levels liberals will go to just be contrarian.

 

[harristeeter]

Aren't the junk food conglomerates already tinkering with additives to combat the effect of ozempic and other weight loss pills?

Would love to learn more about this........

 

[harristeeter]

I'm not wholly opposed but I can't help but think about young children and how awful it would be to never get a treat and only have brown rice, broccoli and canned tuna to eat. Seems cruel

Wasn't raised in a household with money.........it was literally a big treat to go to McDonalds for getting straight A's on my report card.

 

[kudzuking]

You dickheads are insane. Why should working class folks be on the hook to buy honey buns and Hawaiian Punch. You’re basically saying providing them with healthy food isn’t enough. Wtf is wrong with you.

And when I say providing I mean giving it to them with money from working class people. It’s insane the levels liberals will go to just be contrarian.

You got me. I’m totally a dickhead liberal contrarian. Has nothing to do with you expecting a 5 year old to go work for their food and that it’s a dumb thing to say (or think).

I agree with @scotchtiger on this subject, by the way. But @dpic73 point was fair, as well, with regard to children being able to have the occasional treat (without getting a job). I guess I just see a place for nuance when considering this stuff.

 

[MTTiger19]

You got me. I’m totally a dickhead liberal contrarian. Has nothing to do with you expecting a 5 year old to go work for their food and that it’s a dumb thing to say (or think).

I agree with @scotchtiger on this subject, by the way. But @dpic73 point was fair, as well, with regard to children being able to have the occasional treat (without getting a job). I guess I just see a place for nuance when considering this stuff.

First, five year olds don’t just appear, they have parents. Parents should be responsible (providing for them by working would fall under responsibility) for their children if able.

Second, who decides what “occasional treat” is acceptable, who decides the frequency of the “occasional treat”?

Finally, why is it unreasonable to say - here’s a bunch of money we stole from people that work, you can have it but don’t buy cigarettes, soda or cookies.

How would you treat money given to you, money that has been taken from people that work??? Would you feel it was acceptable to spend that on shit like fudge rounds. I can’t believe this is even a debate.

If it’s so important to yourself and dickpic for fatherless children to have junk food, you should both go volunteer your time or money or both and make that dream come true.

 

[dpic73]

Wasn't raised in a household with money.........it was literally a big treat to go to McDonalds for getting straight A's on my report card.

I grew up in a middle class neighborhood in Greenville and a family of nine from Wisconsin moved in across the street and the father was abusive and treated the children badly. I remember they ate corn meal mush for breakfast every day and they got one treat per week. I was always amazed at how excited they got when it was close to treat time and I'll never get that out of my head. I get a lump in my throat just thinking about it.

 

[MTTiger19]

I grew up in a middle class neighborhood in Greenville and a family of nine from Wisconsin moved in across the street and the father was abusive and treated the children badly. I remember they ate corn meal mush for breakfast every day and they got one treat per week. I was always amazed at how excited they got when it was close to treat time and I'll never get that out of my head. I get a lump in my throat just thinking about it.

Was this in the 1930’s?

 

[purenonsense]

I'm not wholly opposed but I can't help but think about young children and how awful it would be to never get a treat and only have brown rice, broccoli and canned tuna to eat. Seems cruel

in the sixties and seventies, my elementary and high school lunces were healthy and i loved them. In high school, i would often buy two lunches.

 

[DW4_2016]

Rep. Jordan Redman, R-Idaho, similarly touted the new administration as a reason why he thought his new bill to remove candy and soda from the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, would be successful. The bill, HB 109, would require the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare to seek a federal waiver to remove these items from SNAP. When asked by a fellow state lawmaker why he thought such a waiver to get rid of these foods would be successful, Redman cited a Trump administration that would be friendly to him.


I'm a huge fan of this. We drink zero soda in our house. Candy is an infrequent treat. Those aren't the foods and drinks that need to be made available to support the nutrition of our poor communities.

There should be a broad removal of shit foods and drinks from any sort of government assistance. We know that there is a massive obesity epidemic in the US and also that children with lower family income have higher rates of childhood obesity.

Let's promote healthier options while also contributing to lower Medicaid and CHIP costs through healthier lifestyles. This is a complete no-brainer. Anyone disagree?

Can we agree that starting with fast food would be a better? Generally anything you get from a grocery store is better for you than jack in the box.

 

[DW4_2016]

First, five year olds don’t just appear, they have parents. Parents should be responsible (providing for them by working would fall under responsibility) for their children if able.

Second, who decides what “occasional treat” is acceptable, who decides the frequency of the “occasional treat”?

Finally, why is it unreasonable to say - here’s a bunch of money we stole from people that work, you can have it but don’t buy cigarettes, soda or cookies.

How would you treat money given to you, money that has been taken from people that work??? Would you feel it was acceptable to spend that on shit like fudge rounds. I can’t believe this is even a debate.

If it’s so important to yourself and dickpic for fatherless children to have junk food, you should both go volunteer your time or money or both and make that dream come true.

One thing we learned during COVID is most parents are very prepared to take care of their own kids.

 

[MTTiger19]

One thing we learned during COVID is most parents are very prepared to take care of their own kids.

I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on this, go on…..

 

[MTTiger19]

Can we agree that starting with fast food would be a better? Generally anything you get from a grocery store is better for you than jack in the box.

We are talking about junk food and sugary drinks, Those arent essential food items that help people survive- these are food items that are destroying peoples health and costing them more in the long run.