Interested in the board's opinion on this (SNAP benefit limitations)

[scotchtiger]

Can we agree that starting with fast food would be a better? Generally anything you get from a grocery store is better for you than jack in the box.

The problem there is the food desert issue mentioned above. Sometimes fast food is all you can find in poor communities and there’s a reality of busy schedules.

That said, apply the same to the menu. No desserts. No sodas. No fries. Eligible kids meals come with fruit cup only. Things like that are totally logical. Heck, maybe only offer the “healthy” menu (salads, etc) for adults but let the kids keep nuggets, etc.

 

[TheValley91]

The problem there is the food desert issue mentioned above. Sometimes fast food is all you can find in poor communities and there’s a reality of busy schedules.

That said, apply the same to the menu. No desserts. No sodas. No fries. Eligible kids meals come with fruit cup only. Things like that are totally logical. Heck, maybe only offer the “healthy” menu (salads, etc) for adults but let the kids keep nuggets, etc.

What do you think about government subsidies to help support grocery stores building in those food deserts?

No clue if that is something that currently happens or not.

 

[fatpiggy]

What do you think about government subsidies to help support grocery stores building in those food deserts?

No clue if that is something that currently happens or not.

I know Whole Foods committed to opening a store in a food dessert in Chicago. It was open for 6 years and whole foods committed millions of dollars to make it successful. But the store ultimately closed for underperformance.

Brandon Johnson is now trying government grocery stores. I am not sure of the results. But i do know he is highly unpopular.

 

[TheValley91]

I know Whole Foods committed to opening a store in a food dessert in Chicago. It was open for 6 years and whole foods committed millions of dollars to make it successful. But the store ultimately closed for underperformance.

Brandon Johnson is now trying government grocery stores. I am not sure of the results. But i do know he is highly unpopular.

That was a great gesture from Whole Foods but unfortunately they are always going to be too expensive for communities like that. Hell I go to Kroger and Publix normally because Whole Foods is still too pricey.

Investment in Aldis and Lidl and Krogers of the world feel like a little bit more feasible option.

Or even programs to support mom and pop grocery stores within the community.

 

[The89Tiger]

No sodas. No fries. Eligible kids meals come with fruit cup only. Things like that are totally logical. Heck, maybe only offer the “healthy” menu (salads, etc) for adults but let the kids keep nuggets, etc.

Those fruit cups are no better than candy, etc. most are full of added sugar.

I get your sentiment though and don’t disagree.

We have been subsidized big food through these programs forever. If people want to choose crappy food and pay the true cost of it, that is their choice. The government shouldn’t subsidize it.

I would rather take that money and get real food into the food deserts.

 

[DW4_2016]

I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on this, go on…..

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Not watching your trash x videos. Feel free to add a transcript here though.

 

[DW4_2016]

We are talking about junk food and sugary drinks, Those arent essential food items that help people survive- these are food items that are destroying peoples health and costing them more in the long run.

I can read thanks. It’s hard to regulate whey you can buy in a grocery store is my point. What constitutes sugary? How about we start by restricting where it can be used rather than try to legislate sugary?

 

[MTTiger19]

I can read thanks. It’s hard to regulate whey you can buy in a grocery store is my point. What constitutes sugary? How about we start by restricting where it can be used rather than try to legislate sugary?

Ok. What constitutes fast food?

 

[MTTiger19]

Not watching your trash x videos. Feel free to add a transcript here though.

You said parents didn’t take care of their children during Covid. Explain what you mean.

 

[DW4_2016]

Ok. What constitutes fast food?

Things bought at fast food restaurants.

 

[MTTiger19]

Things bought at fast food restaurants.

Is somewhere like chipotle fast food smart ass?

 

[DW4_2016]

Is somewhere like chipotle fast food smart ass?

Wow! Personal attacks. Who saw that coming?

 

[MTTiger19]

I can read thanks. It’s hard to regulate whey you can buy in a grocery store is my point. What constitutes sugary? How about we start by restricting where it can be used rather than try to legislate sugary?

Read yes, comprehend no.

 

[MTTiger19]

Wow! Personal attacks. Who saw that coming?

It’s a message board. I’d say much worse to your face.

 

[DW4_2016]

Read yes, comprehend no.

How many times do you intend to respond to the same post with different responses? Are you sane? Bipolar?

 

[DW4_2016]

It’s a message board. I’d say much worse to your face.

I hope your family dies in a house fire. Have a nice day.

 

[MTTiger19]

I hope your family dies in a house fire. Have a nice day.

Haha. What a little bitch.

 

[MTTiger19]

How many times do you intend to respond to the same post with different responses? Are you sane? Bipolar?

As many as I want to. Cry about it.

 

[DW4_2016]

As many as I want too. Cry about it.

To*

You’re a genius. Six mile elementary did you a service.

 

[MTTiger19]

I hope your family dies in a house fire. Have a nice day.

The tolerant left everyone.

 

[MTTiger19]

To*

You’re a genius. Six mile elementary did you a service.

Hell yea bro. Six mile for life. What do you do for a living big guy?

 

[scotchtiger]

What do you think about government subsidies to help support grocery stores building in those food deserts?

No clue if that is something that currently happens or not.

I would 100% support that if it is part of a broader plan that includes mandatory nutrition education, limiting SNAP benefits to healthy foods, phasing in higher insurance premiums (or Medicare surcharges) for controllable obesity, removal of harmful ingredients in our food supply and other, clearly logical efforts to make America healthier and in turn, lower healthcare costs.

 

[yoshi121374]

I would 100% support that if it is part of a broader plan that includes mandatory nutrition education, limiting SNAP benefits to healthy foods, phasing in higher insurance premiums (or Medicare surcharges) for controllable obesity, removal of harmful ingredients in our food supply and other, clearly logical efforts to make America healthier and in turn, lower healthcare costs.

We need to incentivize people to eat healthier. Americans have become so used to ," Just take this pill and it will be fine for things like Blood Pressure or Diabetes"

My Doctor said that I'm like 1/1000 of his patients who actually changed my diet, he said people just don't want to hear it.

I dont really know what that incentive should be, my initial thought is something like a tax write off, but there are a ton of moving parts for that.

My wife is a BCBA so changing behaviors through rewards is her expertise,bit mine lol.

 

[DW4_2016]

Hell yea bro. Six mile for life. What do you do for a living big guy?

Fvck your mom

 

[MTTiger19]

Fvck your mom

So original. Such a sad little boy. lol. What a dork.

 

[DW4_2016]

So original. Such a sad little boy. lol. What a dork.

Edit it again. Maybe you’ll finally have something.

 

[MTTiger19]

Edit it again. Maybe you’ll finally have something.

Love you. Have a great day sweet prince.

Edit: lol

Edit 2: the boy that hopes my family dies in a fire is critiquing how I post.

 

[scotchtiger]

Those fruit cups are no better than candy, etc. most are full of added sugar.

I get your sentiment though and don’t disagree.

We have been subsidized big food through these programs forever. If people want to choose crappy food and pay the true cost of it, that is their choice. The government shouldn’t subsidize it.

I would rather take that money and get real food into the food deserts.

When I think of fruit cup, I think of Chick-fil-a and a cup of loose berries. My family doesn't really eat at any other fast food restaurant, so I'm not sure what shit they serve.

 

[MTTiger19]

When I think of fruit cup, I think of Chick-fil-a and a cup of loose berries. My family doesn't really eat at any other fast food restaurant, so I'm not sure what shit they serve.

Is a grilled chicken sandwich from Cfa fast food though?

Edit for @DW4_2016
It probably makes more sense to only allow snap to be accepted at grocery stores no?

 

[The89Tiger]

When I think of fruit cup, I think of Chick-fil-a and a cup of loose berries. My family doesn't really eat at any other fast food restaurant, so I'm not sure what shit they serve.

Got it... but Chick-fil-a isn't a good comp in this instance, because I don't think they really serve the areas that would have the most SNAP recipients (not busting on CFA, I love them!)

It's a tough situation, kind of chicken and egg... Need to get better food to everyone and hope they take advantage of it. But of course, our government supports the crap food makers, so they have conflicts.

 

[Clemson Goat]

I would like to see a picture ID or a name put on SNAP cards . When a SNAP card is used card holder is required to show matching ID. It makes me sick when I see people sell their SNAP cards for 50 cents on the dollar.
In fact as long as you know the card number and pin a person can make purchases at a lot of places without the card in hand.
I agree with scotch tiger that SNAP should not be used to purchase sugar products

 

[scotchtiger]

I would like to see a picture ID or a name put on SNAP cards . When a SNAP card is used card holder is required to show matching ID. It makes me sick when I see people sell their SNAP cards for 50 cents on the dollar.
In fact as long as you know the card number and pin a person can make purchases at a lot of places without the card in hand.
I agree with scotch tiger that SNAP should not be used to purchase sugar products

100%. Selling your snap card for drugs or cigarettes is fraud and should be treated as such. You should risk a lifetime ban from government assistance.

 

[fcctiger12]

Rep. Jordan Redman, R-Idaho, similarly touted the new administration as a reason why he thought his new bill to remove candy and soda from the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, would be successful. The bill, HB 109, would require the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare to seek a federal waiver to remove these items from SNAP. When asked by a fellow state lawmaker why he thought such a waiver to get rid of these foods would be successful, Redman cited a Trump administration that would be friendly to him.


I'm a huge fan of this. We drink zero soda in our house. Candy is an infrequent treat. Those aren't the foods and drinks that need to be made available to support the nutrition of our poor communities.

There should be a broad removal of shit foods and drinks from any sort of government assistance. We know that there is a massive obesity epidemic in the US and also that children with lower family income have higher rates of childhood obesity.

Let's promote healthier options while also contributing to lower Medicaid and CHIP costs through healthier lifestyles. This is a complete no-brainer. Anyone disagree?

No issues with this so long as it is balanced out by some sort of plan to combat our food desert issue and by adding a critical need item like diapers to either SNAP or WIC. Y’all have already covered the food desert subject in this thread, but I don’t think folks realize just how big of a gap we have in these programs when it comes to support for diapers. Just like with healthy foods, diapers are not cheap. There’s a reason why Diaper Bank is near-universally championed by Junior Leagues across the country: https://www.jlcharleston.org/diaperbank/

 

[scotchtiger]

No issues with this so long as it is balanced out by some sort of plan to combat our food desert issue and by adding a critical need item like diapers to either SNAP or WIC. Y’all have already covered the food desert subject in this thread, but I don’t think folks realize just how big of a gap we have in these programs when it comes to support for diapers. Just like with healthy foods, diapers are not cheap. There’s a reason why Diaper Bank is near-universally championed by Junior Leagues across the country: https://www.jlcharleston.org/diaperbank/

We must continue to seek ways to decrease federal spend while providing for basic needs. For diapers, reusable cloth diapers are less expensive over time. We should steer those in need to the most affordable option, not the most convenient (disposable). Conservatives will appreciate the lower cost and the libs will love the positive environmental aspect.

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[CUTiger1977]