Is Lindsey Suggesting
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Since Ron DeSantis has made it legal to run over protestors, I think we should let them riot in Florida
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... (((shrug))) I dont care what youre political leanings are or what youre protesting ... if you protest in traffic????? you willingly accept all risks and (to be blunt) forfeit your expectation of safety.
edit: ... I dont think I have to clarify, because my opinion on Jan 6 is well documented, but ... just to reiterate ... if you storm and break into a Federal building (any building for that matter, but especially a govt building), you forfeit any expectation of safety and dare I say due process
... (((shrug))) I dont care what youre political leanings are or what youre protesting ... if you protest in traffic????? you willingly accept all risks and (to be blunt) forfeit your expectation of safety.
edit: ... I dont think I have to clarify, because my opinion on Jan 6 is well documented, but ... just to reiterate ... if you storm and break into a Federal building (any building for that matter, but especially a govt building), you forfeit any expectation of safety and dare I say due process
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When conservatives riot we don’t stesl private property
We reclaim democracy
I am contemplating the form if rioting we should take
Maybe peaceful sit ins and road and government building blockades
I really don’t think it will come to that and i discourage and do not support violence except in the most dire of circumstances like self defense
So lets see what happens
Does reclaiming democracy mean letting Trump get away with any crime he wants?
ah ... thank you
All I know, personally, is that the Dems/DOJ better have something better than "improperly storing classified documents", if they want to avoid a bunch of bullshit.
The difference?
The fact is, and always has been, that these riots are happening in Democrat-run cities in Democrat-governed states. This is the case for Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Denver, and Kenosha. And when the Trump administration sent federal law enforcement to Portland simply to protect a federal courthouse, the president was decried as a totalitarian and told by the Democratic mayor and governor to get out.
So, in case you didn’t follow the argument from Democrats, it goes like this: There should be “unrest” and “uprisings” in the streets, but the rioters and looters are mostly peaceful, and you should donate to bail them out of jail, but really there’s nothing wrong with lighting businesses on fire and looting them, and anyway, it’s actually Trump supporters who are being violent, and Donald Trump is doing nothing to stop it, but if he sends his federal forces, he’s a dictator.
I actually agree with a lot of this. Those protests were total bullshit. If you wanna protest, have at it. I can even understand if not condone a scuffle or two with the riot police as long as people aren't getting hurt. When you start burning and looting, you are no longer a protester, but a criminal. And the reports of <insert far right group here> instigating it were BS as well.
On the other hand the capital riots were exactly that as well. If you wanna protest, have at it. I can even understand if not condone a scuffle or two with the riot police as long as people aren't getting hurt. But when you start breaking into the capital building while chanting Hang Mike Pence, you've become a criminal and possibly an insurgent since you are literally attacking the government. The reports of Antifa instigating it were BS as well.
And I don't understand how you can condemn one and excuse the other.
Totally agree, and I'm not. Some on here, have short memories and/or don't want to remember.
That's not it at all. You're trying to equate some unlawful rioters - WHO WE DID NOT SUPPORT OR DEFEND - with rioting that would be instigated by the DOJ lawfully prosecuting someone for crimes against the nation. See the difference?
Give me a break!
I would not defend any rioting, but I also would not ignore it like the left did (and defended it as I provided proof of)
To answer your question, NO.
Have you seen anyone on here defending the rioters from 2020? Have you seen anyone on here bellyaching about their treatment or sentences? No, because not only do I not know what happened to them, I don't care because they are criminals. I'm against all lawbreakers, so even though I don't remember all the details of the MNFreedomFund, if Kamala was advocating bail for "lawbreakers", I adamantly oppose her.
It's really not all about you and me here. It's about the people you voted into this position pushing these agendas.
Listen to LG and he is saying there will be riots in the streets. He doesn't know that for sure, he's not advocating for riots, he's saying he thinks that some republicans or trump followers will riot if that happens.
Should they, Hell No. If they do, should we form a fund to bail them out, Hell No. If they loot, burn and commit various other crimes while rioting, should we turn a blind eye and say it's just peaceful protest, Hell No.
But Guess What? That is exactly what this administration you defend and put into office did!
See the difference?
I don't think any of us have any problem with opposing violence, theft, etc.
Many studies have shown that 90%+ of BLM protests were non-violent. So, what we have a problem with is the mouth breathers saying if you supported the BLM movement, you supported violence. That's just not true.
Don't have to. You were involved you get prosecuted.
Glad we can finally agree.
You really believe that?
Two-thirds want BLM riots probed, more than Jan. 6
Two-thirds want BLM riots probed, more than Jan. 6
Paul Bedard
July 21, 2021·2 min read
Far more voters want the race riots of 2020 investigated than the Jan. 6 Capitol protests, including overwhelming majorities of blacks and Hispanics.
In a new Rasmussen Reports survey that challenges the media’s theme about the public’s view of both events, majorities of likely voters also back police and reject suggestions of racism by law enforcement.
And in one example of that, 65% disagreed with Black Lives Matter activists who have claimed that Old Glory and the pro-police “Thin Blue Line” flags are symbols of racism, said the survey done with the National Police Association.
Overall, 66% said that they want the Black Lives Matter riots investigated. According to the survey, there were 574 violent clashes and over 2,000 police were injured. Just 49% said they support House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s partisan investigation of the Jan. 6 riots.
Just who supports investigating BLM riots, which were notable in Portland, Seattle, Washington, Minneapolis, and other big cities, was surprising.
Rasmussen’s analysis said, “Sixty-seven percent of whites, 64% of black voters, 66% of Hispanics and 62% of other minorities think Congress should investigate the 2020 riots in U.S. cities. Seventy-five percent of Republicans, 60% of Democrats and 63% of voters not affiliated with either major party say Congress should investigate last year’s violent protests.”
In the new report, the police group said, “When the mayors of cities in which violent riots took place in 2020 refused to let police immediately stop the crimes taking place, it sent a message to violent criminals across the nation that crimes will be allowed and criminals won’t be touched. For the last year violent crimes have increased nationally and the lack of support from politicians has resulted in the number of police officers declining into a short staffing recruitment and retention crisis.”
In other findings:
- 53% think Congress should award medals to the law enforcement agencies that defended their cities from violent looters and rioters in 2020.
- 62% believe elected officials who downplayed the 2020 rioting and looting deserve to be criticized, a number higher than the 51% who believe politicians deserve criticism for downplaying the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.
- 76% of voters believe young people should be taught to comply with police rather than resist or flee arrest.
Dude, really. Have we forgotten about "Lock her up! Lock her up!" How can those same people now think taking classified documents to an unsecure location is OK?
You really believe that?
Two-thirds want BLM riots probed, more than Jan. 6
Two-thirds want BLM riots probed, more than Jan. 6
Paul Bedard
July 21, 2021·2 min read
Far more voters want the race riots of 2020 investigated than the Jan. 6 Capitol protests, including overwhelming majorities of blacks and Hispanics.
In a new Rasmussen Reports survey that challenges the media’s theme about the public’s view of both events, majorities of likely voters also back police and reject suggestions of racism by law enforcement.
And in one example of that, 65% disagreed with Black Lives Matter activists who have claimed that Old Glory and the pro-police “Thin Blue Line” flags are symbols of racism, said the survey done with the National Police Association.
Overall, 66% said that they want the Black Lives Matter riots investigated. According to the survey, there were 574 violent clashes and over 2,000 police were injured. Just 49% said they support House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s partisan investigation of the Jan. 6 riots.
Just who supports investigating BLM riots, which were notable in Portland, Seattle, Washington, Minneapolis, and other big cities, was surprising.
Rasmussen’s analysis said, “Sixty-seven percent of whites, 64% of black voters, 66% of Hispanics and 62% of other minorities think Congress should investigate the 2020 riots in U.S. cities. Seventy-five percent of Republicans, 60% of Democrats and 63% of voters not affiliated with either major party say Congress should investigate last year’s violent protests.”
In the new report, the police group said, “When the mayors of cities in which violent riots took place in 2020 refused to let police immediately stop the crimes taking place, it sent a message to violent criminals across the nation that crimes will be allowed and criminals won’t be touched. For the last year violent crimes have increased nationally and the lack of support from politicians has resulted in the number of police officers declining into a short staffing recruitment and retention crisis.”
In other findings:
- 53% think Congress should award medals to the law enforcement agencies that defended their cities from violent looters and rioters in 2020.
- 62% believe elected officials who downplayed the 2020 rioting and looting deserve to be criticized, a number higher than the 51% who believe politicians deserve criticism for downplaying the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.
- 76% of voters believe young people should be taught to comply with police rather than resist or flee arrest.
Yes, because it is true. Nothing you have posted here refutes what I said.
no one is above the law
all people receive equal treatment from the law
when that happens the world will be a better place
The problem is Joe Biden has been an integral part of a cabal against lawful behavior including members Clintons , Obama , bad FBI and DOJ
former AG for Obama
These guys criminal actions against democracy will forever be written in history
And no amount of words from anyone will change that reality
Based on what evidence all of the Democratic investigations have put forth so far i am thinking Trump is an Angel
And the Democratic Party are Satanic Racist Hate Mongers who want anarchy
Thats my take
Exactly. If they can probe into the 2020 riots and prove they committed a crime and were not BLM supporters, then have at it.
Have they and will they? We all know the answer to that question don't we?
You can sit here at point fingers all day.
Did they lock Hilary up, Nope!
Should have? Yep...they had the evidence to do it!
Should they lock Trump Up? Yep!
Will they? If they can can produce the evidence that determines he should be.
See...it's not hard! Just seems like a little hypocrisy is going on...
She was investigated and they determined that they could not charge her. I have no control over decisions made by the DOJ or FBI. So not sure how I am a hypocrite.
I was responding to his post, which he downplayed the crime that has potentially been committed. That was not the case when Hilary was investigated for the same crime.
"The hypocrisy of folks in my party that spent years chanting 'Lock her up' about Hillary Clinton because of some deleted emails or, quote/unquote, 'wiping a server,' are now out there defending a man who very clearly did not take the national security of the United States to heart." Rep. Adam Kenziger
because the common person doesnt have an appreciation for what Top Secret means. The truth is that ... Clinton and Trump probably both deserve to be in Leavenworth. Ask anyone who has a clearance what would happen to them if they took classified material home. I mean ... Im on the commercial side of Raytheon. I touch nothing that is Government or military or classified ... but if I were to insert a USB drive into my PC? HA!
they always said the internet was going to ruin brains and make people chimps. who knew they were talking about themselves. lol
This ^^^^
I had a TSI with lie detector in the military and we weren't even permitted to attach documents to emails, much less forward them to external or private email addresses. You were allowed to review documents in a SCIF and then hand them back to the intelligence officer. Even notes were reviewed and logged to ensure they were destroyed post mission or at least reclaimed and archived.
The only material difference in these scenarios is what, if any documents Trump declassified which would render them confidential at best. Hillary wasn't the president, some of the documents she had in her possession she shouldn't have even had access too much less copied to a private server.
Modern day IT infra should block USB from working if specific users have access but that's barring they actually implement DOD's policies.
The reality though and the easiest way to fix this is to pass law suggesting no president or govt official can remove any documents from secure areas even at the end of the presidency. They should follow the same protocol as operators on the ground, especially as operators are a million times more efficient in things like OPSEC (operational security) and document protection in general. Let's get this shored up and then hold everyone accountable going forward.
You do know that he's destroying your brain also, right? Every one of your posts mentions Trump, Trumpism, Maga, Ultra Maga.......it's actually alarming.
I am amazed that people actually believe that Trump declassified these documents. he might have tried to declassify them after the raid, but thats it.
Good point! I'm tired of that name so I've decided to give him a codename. I was thinking about substituting Jake, Jakeism, Jaka, and Ultra-Jaka. Thoughts?
Well, as soon as the DOJ gets done proving that, the sooner we can actually kick off the trial and end this fiasco once and for all. The FBI/DOJ publicly said they've reviewed the docs so what's the hold up? Let's get on with it
Whatever keeps you from shooting up a softball game in DC I guess
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