How so? Shirley, you're not that dense. But just in case... "Surely." Read the above for a clarity class.
Is this fascism?
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I'm not dense. You tried to be sarcastic and it made the point he was making.
I honestly just don't have the bandwidth to argue with folks who are just not able to debate. Have a good day, enjoy ignorance.
Sorry, but here again, it is the Truth rather you believe it or not. The fact you get offended and have gotten upset indicates that deep down you may even know it is Truth, and that hurts. But since it doesn't line up with what you feel or want, you run from it.
Why wouldn't I correlate God with the sun. He created that along with everything else. And everything revolves around Him. (You know, kind of like everything revolves around the sun in our solar system) The parenthetical reference was just in case you had missed that day in class.
So since God makes Homosexuals in nature then it's God inspired,created and good. Right?
Its projecting. They have an interest in it, so they assume god less liberals must be enjoying it. Only thing stopping them from pedoing is the bible. Think about it
You're welcome, I guess. But just like in His Word... I would not have you be ignorant. Instead, I would rather try and open your eyes to see. Then you will know Truth. That way you don't have to choose stupidity, although some still do. But that doesn't have to be you. (Poetry bonus points apply here lol)
So, come to Church with me Sunday. I'd be happy to meet you and talk (because it's not a debate) afterwards. Lunch will be on me. Just come.
Brother I'm on a Church Staff, I have a College Degree from a Christian Affiliated University. I'm hardly Ignorant about the Bible and Christianity.
Just for curiosity, what Church Denomination do you attend?
God creates everything. And we all have a sin nature... everybody is born with it. Not everyone's sin looks the same though. But we are not to conform to our sin and embrace it. We must war against what is sin in His Word. It's not an opinion or a feeling. It's from Him and His Word. He's the boss. He created everything. He makes the rules. If you don't like it, take it up with Him and His Word. You'll find the answers. You may still choose to disagree and not believe it. But that won't make you any less wrong. Again, come to Church.
You stated: Brother I'm on a Church Staff, I have a College Degree from a Christian Affiliated University. I'm hardly Ignorant about the Bible and Christianity.
If what you said there is true, then you should absolutely know what the "entire" Bible says is Truth. Unless of course, you are picking and choosing what you want to believe and agree with, or what parts feel good to you. I pray that isn't the case.
Baptist. Upstate Church Simpsonville. Please come.
So which version of his "word" are you using? You do understand how the bible came to be correct? You do understand that it didn't just float down from Heaven one day I hope? You know that there are multiple editions/translations of the bible that have been used by many denominations throughout history I hope?
Since you mention you are a Baptist, I assume you use either the King James or NIV version?
The trouble for infallible Inerrant folks is that don't generally understand history vs Tradition. They also typically feel that the version they use is the correct one, regardless of the accuracy.
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I know you were attempting to be funny. Nice job.
That must be how single digit IQ'ers communicate... There, I think mine was better.
Oh boy... just please bring your version with you so I can look at it. You know, the one that indicates where all these previous items of sin we have discussed are actually ok, or that God has suddenly changed His mind. I would like to scan that one over. I'll have mine with me and we can compare.
I imagine you refuse to eat pork, wear fabric blends, ever touched a pigskin football, have ever pulled out of your wife/gf, or eat shellfish?
Well, we don't currently follow any of the Old Testament Jewish laws for example as mentioned below. Again what version of the Bible do you use? If you say that I can use some specific examples.
Jesus created the New Testament with his followers which meant that the Old Testament was supersedeed by his teachings since "All Come to God through him". Interestingly Jesus never talked about Homosexuality at all.
Lol. You do realize to whom God was speaking when He said all of these, and for what purpose? However, let's not pull a brief excerpt from the Word and not include the "entire" context. That is not a very wise thing to do.
So we're disregarding this section of Leviticus, but supporting the other section of Leviticus that discusses homosexuality?
Who's picking and choosing what to follow now?
You have asked: Again, what version of the Bible do you use? This is actually irrelevant, but let's get it out of the way. I have a KJV, NKJV, NIV, ESV, NLT, etc... I prefer KJV, though. Now let's get relevant.
You stated: "Jesus created the New Testament with his followers which meant that the Old Testament was supersedeed by his teachings since "All Come to God through him". Interestingly Jesus never talked about Homosexuality at all." (The part about superseded is complete folly)
Jesus came to fulfill the Old Testament, which He did. So, if we are to follow Him, for He is the only Way, we accept everything about Him and what He fulfilled. He is that very Word, (The Old Testament) in the flesh, that He came to fulfill. He does not contradict Himself. And He did not need to talk about homosexuality, beastiality, sodomy, men trying to be women and vice versa, etc... again... He already did. The Old Testament is absolutely relevant, my friend. Very much so.
I absolutely love debating Biblical teachings and Doctrine with folks like this.
I am a Christian as I have said multiple times, but I am pretty educated and have a deep understanding of Bible History and Doctrinal history. It's wild how ignorant many very devout Christians are about blthe basic history of the Bible. It's like they think the Bible Just floated down from Heaven one fine day.
This is complete hogwash and factually and biblically incorrect.
The KJV is rampant with errors and mistranslations. Interestibg that it's your favorite version.
This is complete hogwash and factually and biblically incorrect.
The KJV is rampant with errors and mistranslations. Interestibg that it's your favorite version.
If you indeed know the contents of Leviticus and the entire Old Testament, "and" also know what Jesus said, and follow Him... you already know the answer here.
So, homosexuality bad bc it’s in bible.
Everything else that’s bad in the Old Testament that you do today isn’t bad, bc reasons.
Got it. Good talk.
You could just spare us all the wasted time and just say you pick and choose what to follow from the Bible based on preconceived biases you probably got while growing up and hide it under the guise of “muh interpretation of the Bible.”
Lol. Yes, let's trust what some internet article says, which we could find anything out there to debunk anything we so choose to, if we look. The internet must be higher than God's Word, huh?This is complete hogwash and factually and biblically incorrect.
The KJV is rampant with errors and mistranslations. Interestibg that it's your favorite version.
Sounds like you don't believe Jesus was/is God in the flesh, or that Jesus was/is the Word made flesh.
Maybe you should read John, Chapter 1. Maybe you'll believe that. (That's New Testament, by the way)
Please bring WapPride and come to Church Sunday. Simpsonville downtown campus. I'll treat both to lunch.
Did God translate the bible into English from the original versions and texts in Hebrew? Or the Grecian translation of the Hebrew bible 700 years later? Or the Vulgate which was translated from Greek into Latin 600 years after that? Or the KJV version that was translated 1200 years after that?
Or were they all translated by men who are fallible and are rife with their own sins and preconceptions?
Or were they all translated by men who are fallible and are rife with their own sins and preconceptions?
AGAIN, adults are of course free to do whatever they want with their bodies. This is aimed at protecting children.
Wait.... You go to a Church "Campus"? Oh Lord, you are at a "non-denominational" Church aren't you? Those places are laughably ignorant and childish with their Biblical "teaching".
He has absolutely no idea what you are talking about. He will keep spouting what he has been told, while remaining sadly ignorant and unable to discuss these issues. He will unfortunately continue to believe that he's right though.
I'm not attempting to be funny. I honestly believe that it's people projecting. We know for a fact epstein and the catholic church ran two of the largest pedo operations we've ever heard of. Yet nowhere do I see any justice being dealt.
But somehow let's direct that anger at trans people..... sure bud that's who we should be worried about... not the billionaires jet setting all over the world or the trillionaire organization called the catholic church. Yep let's focus on dived and poor trans people. Oh and teachers.. definitely teachers.
"Baptist. Upstate Church Simpsonville. Please come." (Note the word Baptist here)
That, yoshi, was posted to you from earlier today. You really don't pay attention very well at all do you?
The Simpsonville "downtown" campus was specified for you later in this thread because Simpsonville has 3 sites. In fact, Upstate Church has a half dozen campuses altogether. (All Baptist)
Now, since it has become abundantly clear I must break everything down for you, although none of it seems to be penetrating your skull, I will give you the full name of our Church. (Here it comes; see below)
"First Baptist Simpsonville, Upstate Church" (The Upstate part is due to us being in the upstate of South Carolina)
South Carolina is a state in the USA. I think that should cover it.
Of course, we are all fallible and sinful.
Full disclosure: the following is merely an exercise to try and infuse some sense of sanity.
Yes, let's chalk up our sins to being perfectly ok, since someone might have translated something wrong along the way. So, in the beginning when a man and woman were created and were told to procreate, and they just happen to fit together like a puzzle... what that really means is... somebody must be mistaken. We can actually do whatever we want... man with man, or woman with woman... because that works for procreation too.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
Just watched some of your services. Not even close to a traditional Christmas rch service and Certainly not a Southern Baptist Service. Go where your like, but honestly. Get some real knowledge about the Bible instead of the ignorant teachings you are learning.
Let's move right on past Homosexuality, even though it appears regularly in nature.
How about just ignoring all the laws of Leviticus except that ones that you like?
You are literally incapable of processing opposition to this idea. Amazing.
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